Pentagon push-back: Guantanamo Bay: The Swamp
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Chicago Tribune
Posted May 20, 2009 11:45 AM
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by Julian E. Barnes

Pushing back against growing congressional opposition to moving detainees to the United States, a top Pentagon official said today that closing the military-run prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, would require prisoners to be moved to the U.S. and urged lawmakers need to think more strategically.

Michele A. Flournoy, undersecretary of Defense for policy--the Pentagon's No. 3 official - said that if allied nations were going to take detainees, the U.S. also needed to take some into its prisons.

"When we are asking allies to do their fair share in dealing with this challenge, we need to do our fair share," Flournoy said today. "This is a case where we need to ask members of Congress to take a more strategic view. Many of these members called for the closing of Guantanamo, and we need their partnership in making that possible."

Senate Democrats dropped plans Tuesday to provide funding for closing the prison at Guantanamo Bay. Lawmakers are poised to bar the transfer of detainees to the U.S., and Capitol Hill has become skeptical about the administration's detention policy. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said today that he wanted neither to have detainees released into the U.S. nor to see them imprisoned here.

"We don't want them around the United States," Reid said.

Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates has predicted that between 50 and 100 detainees would eventually be moved to American prisons, and that some of the Chinese Muslims, who are held at Guantanamo but not considered dangerous, would be released into the U.S.

Flournoy would not offer her own prediction of how many detainees the U.S. or its allies would eventually take. She said the administration was going through each case individually and there were no decisions on where detainees might be moved.

"I am optimistic that all of us will take more than we have agreed so far," she said. "This is a challenge that will require all of us to step up and make hard choices."

European allies so far have offered to take only a couple additional detainees from Guantanamo. If the U.S. cannot move more of the detainees to allied countries, it will be faced with holding large number of detainees it cannot transfer to their home countries.

Officials have been reluctant to send many of the remaining 240 detainees to their counties of origin, fearful that the suspects would either be allowed to rejoin the fight against the U.S. or could be abused in prison.

Closing Guantanamo has proven to be a far more tricky political proposition than some in the Obama administration believed it would be. Top officials have remained largely silent, failing to offer broad arguments about how closing Guantanamo could help the U.S. position in the world.

But Obama is set to make a speech about Guantanamo and detainee policy Thursday.

The administration has created task forces to deal with various aspects of interrogation and detention policies--and craft new practices on how to handle current and future detainees.

The work is complicated by the fact that many of the detainees currently in custody were captured at different times, Flournoy said. "We are dealing with an inheritance," she said. "We are dealing with.... People... taken into custody when different policies were in place."

One of the most critical questions facing the administration is what to do with the potentially dozens of detainees it cannot release, transfer or try. Until now, the detainees have been held indefinitely in Guantanamo.

But if they were moved to the United States, the Obama administration may seek congressional approval to continue to hold them without formal charges.

Pressed for the administration's position, Flournoy offered few details, but did not disavow continued detention without trial--at least for some of the detainees.

"The desire is to provide due process to as many of these detainees as possible," she said.

Human rights groups remain strongly opposed to the Obama administration's push for congressional approval for detention without trial.

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Maybe we should allow the terrorists and illegal immigrants in and give them driver's licenses. We could charge a fee, demand they have insurance for their behavior, learn their mother's maiden name, and learn the name of their favorite pet. ..


http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/05/20/real-ids-why-are-we-frustrated-with-government/


Obama, who from this point forward shall be referred to as "H", knows full well that all of his promises that he made during the campaign were just so much B.S., he's finding out the hard way that it was easier running for President then to actually be President. Bottom line whether the radical left like it or not Gitmo works. Its the safest place to keep these thugs, and besides these people are war captives and should not receive the benefit of a trial in the U.S.A., they should not have the same rights as an American citizen. However, if Pelosi, Reid, and any other democratic leaders would like to adopt one of them, then we'll have to look at that a later date,


In other news....Obama gets his "out" and Bush gets vindication...

A federal judge has ruled that the United States can continue to hold some prisoners in military detention indefinitely without any charges.

U.S. District Judge John Bates’ opinion issued Tuesday night limited the Obama administration’s definition of who can be held. But he said Congress in the days after Sept. 11, 2001 gave the president the authority to hold anyone involved in planning, aiding or carrying out the terrorist attacks....

How's THAT for a wedgie ya DUPES!


Unmentioned in the article: the "Pentagon official" quoted, Michelle Flournoy, is an Obama appointee, a former Clinton administration official and a longtime contributor to all things Democrat.

This is not, as the article would have it, a fight between the Pentagon and the Democratic Congress, but rather a fight between two sets of Democrats. And the dispute shows that there are rifts in the Democratic Party.


Pathetic. We held thousands of Nazi POWs during and after The War. Ramzi Yousef was tried and convicted in Federal Court within months. Even during the Bush era there were more successful convictions in Federal court than their Kangaroo version could ever muster.

Its disgusting to see how craven and cowardly this once great Nation has become when we can't even face a few suspected 3rd world terrorists with the full due process of law. Funny how guilt is outright assumed for every single one of these prisoners as well. Absolutely pathetic.


My bet is most of these "detainees" would prefer Gitmo to a prison in their own country.


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