by Mark Silva
It's been described variously as Bush's "first shot'' at his successor -- or a "salvo'' across Obama's bow -- but the words that have filtered out of the closed-door speech that the former president delivered in Pennsylvania don't sound all that scathing.
"I know it's going to be the private sector that leads this country out of the current economic times we're in," Bush said in a speech to business leaders in Erie, Pa., Wednesday. "You can spend your money better than the government can spend your money."
This is pretty much what Bush said through two election campaigns.
""Government does not create wealth. The major role for the government is to create an environment where people take risks to expand the job rate in the United States," he also said in the closed-door speech, according to a Washington Times account.
On health care, Bush reportedly said: "There are a lot of ways to remedy the situation without nationalizing health care.... I worry about encouraging the government to replace the private sector when it comes to providing insurance for health care."
But then, President Obama is not talking about nationalizing healthcare.
Asked directly if he thought his successor is embracing "socialist" polices, Bush pulled his punch. "We'll see,'' he said.
The former president did aggressively defend his approach to terrorism and took issue with his successor's quick decision to close the military-run prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and ban the "harsh'' interrogation tactics that Team Bush authorized.
\"I told you I'm not going to criticize my successor," Bush said, according to the paper. "I'll just tell you that there are people at Gitmo that will kill American people at a drop of a hat and I don't believe that persuasion isn't going to work. Therapy isn't going to cause terrorists to change their mind."
But then again, Obama isn't talking about therapy for terrorists.
Bush also suggested that the tone of the political debate today can be traced to the founding fathers, when Vice President Aaron Burr shot and killed Alexander Hamilton.
"At least when my vice president shot somebody,'' Bush said, "it was an accident.''
(Former President George W. Bush, introduced to speak at the Manufacturers & Business Association's 104th annual event in Erie, Pa., Wednesday. The speech was closed. (Photo by Keith Srakocic / AP)









Comments
Yep, the man is still an Idiot.
Posted by: Tim (not the idiot Tim) | June 18, 2009 1:18 PM
Who would ever waste their time listening to what this doofus has to say. Bush understood very little about the economy and the world in general. Bush, the worst President in US history, lied to, misled, and deceived the American people from the very first day he was in office. The man can't even talk in complete sentences or speak proper English. He's responsible for 5,000 dead soldiers and marines and hasn't attended a single funeral. Republican style patriotism for you.
Posted by: Doug R. | June 18, 2009 1:29 PM
Shut up Shrub Jr!
You should be in prison with the rest of your crime family, you stinking war criminal!
Posted by: former Republican | June 18, 2009 1:32 PM
Will someone remind me what Bush's plan for healthcare was?
Posted by: He's a real nowhere man | June 18, 2009 1:35 PM
The Bush administration did a great job in destroying the economy. His government created wide spread poverty.
And health care? Of course, George Bush, who was born into generations of wealth, does not care about working people. He screwed America as President.
Bush was the absolutely worst President of my lifetime, if not the history of the United States. Incompetent and evil is best way to describe him.
Posted by: Johnny Knoxville | June 18, 2009 1:39 PM
Government created plenty of wealth for President Cheney and his front man W., who used their un-American racket called "Halliburton" to help themselves to billions of taxpayer dollars, for the great service of making our soldiers unsafe and sick. They created an insane profit for themselves off of our troops.
For the last 30 years Republican "leadership" has extracted a huge profit off of our economy by destroying our manufacturing base and systematically selling off our assets to the highest private bidder. They created no actual wealth, except for themselves and their rich pals. It's like selling the wheels off of your car. You can generate a profit for yourself, but it pretty much renders your car (the country) useless...
Posted by: Lisa | June 18, 2009 1:49 PM
Absolutely....Maybe our children is learnin!
Posted by: bill r. | June 18, 2009 2:07 PM
This coming from a failed leader who left behind record deficits, stripped away Constitutional rights, repelled our allies and plunged the country into two costly wars. Perhaps in his haste to rewrite history, Bush forgot that it's his mess Obama has to clean up.
Posted by: Diane | June 18, 2009 2:09 PM
Bush would do well to attend some continuing education courses in English and Public speaking at the local community college before ever attempting to critique President Obama publicly again. Bush is still a MorAn and he proved again today.
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http://paulconnors.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/get-a-brain-morans.jpg
Posted by: Lithium | June 18, 2009 2:14 PM
""Government does not create wealth. The major role for the government is to create an environment where people take risks to expand the job rate in the United States,"
George Bush-
That says it all...This couldn't be more understated... good for Bush.
Posted by: heartburn | June 18, 2009 2:27 PM
That says it all...This couldn't be more understated... good for Bush.
Posted by: heartburn | June 18, 2009 2:27 PM
Yeah, because George W Bush is such a great expert at job creation.
January 2001 Unemployment 4.2 % (Unemployment is NEVER lower during Bush's term than it was when he took office)
January 2009 Unemployment 7.6%
You just can't argue with success like that!
Posted by: Mike | June 18, 2009 4:04 PM
Posted by: Mike | June 18, 2009 4:04 PM
Ok- so you don't like Bush-
But other than that what part if his quote do you disagree with?
Do you believe that government creates wealth?
Do you believe that the role of government is NOT to "...create an environment where people take risks to expand the job rate in the United States..."?
Posted by: heartburn | June 18, 2009 4:34 PM
heartburn, It's not that I "don't like Bush." It's that he has an utterly dismal record when it come to job creation. He had 8 years to implement his theories and they failed badly. Those are facts that I'm sure you'd prefer to ignore, but there they are. My personal feeling about Bush have nothing to do with.
What Bush fails to mention is that the Government has a role in regulating business to ensure that corporations don't do more damge than good in the pursuit of profit. Government has a role in ensuring that the public good is protected.
Listen to the words of a great Republican President:
"The true friend of property, the true conservative, is he who insists that property shall be the servant and not the master of the commonwealth; who insists that the creature of man's making shall be the servant and not the master of the man who made it. The citizens of the United States must effectively control the mighty commercial forces which they have themselves called into being."
Posted by: Mike | June 18, 2009 5:04 PM
Swamp Scoreboard:
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Mike - 3
heartburn - 0
Posted by: sportscenter | June 18, 2009 5:29 PM
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Posted by: Mike | June 18, 2009 4:04 PM
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Apart from hiring new federal employees, the federal government doesn’t create jobs. Jobs are created by people in the market who have money to hire other people. They do so when it is to their advantage to expand their workforce. The government doesn’t have anything remotely close to “control” over this decision making process. The government “job creation” shtick is just another lie created by Democrats to give people the illusion that the government has control over the economy.
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It’s the same nonsense that it perpetrated by those who claim that one administration or another is “responsible” for the economy taking a dive. The economy is controlled by millions of separate economic decisions made every day, many of which the government is entirely unaware, much less in control. It is, thus, only by sheer conceit and arrogance that someone can claim the government has that kind of control over the economy.
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And, BTW - Teddy Roosevelt was the first and last “progressive” Republican president. He was a war-monger, a bully when it came to foreign relations, and a would-be dictator at home. In other words, he was not “great Republican President.” He was everything that everyone hated in Bush, Jr. Thankfully, he only served one term.
Posted by: John W. | June 18, 2009 6:35 PM
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angry old white guy...I mean John W - 0
Posted by: sportscenter | June 18, 2009 7:26 PM
The visceral hatred for this George Bush guy, aka Prince of Darkness, continues with only a tiny bit of abatement. At one time I did not understand the unmodulated rage always directed at Prince, but now I do understand it because I feel almost the same way about the treasonous Jimmy Carter. But where are the spitters, the stake burners, the grave robbers and the like? To where have they gone?
I look at the Pretty Latinas and I say: “There. That is all the solid proof that any xy chromasone individual should ever need that there is a God.” Jimmy Carter pops up out of his den, and there goes the Django blood pressure, ~310 over 60. I really, really hate to think what Jimmy Carter would be solid proof of. But then, Sister Angelica, my spiritual mentor of 40 years past appears, and tranquility and reasonably good health is restored.
So, democrats, I do understand your visceral hatred. I know that your god would be government and lots of it, but is there anything that would tend to pull you back from the edge, a little, by ‘the better angels of our nature’, as Lincoln may would be inclined to say, just before you are about to bust off a cap, so to speak. A Something, or a someone, like a Sister Angelica? The question is somewhat rhetorical. I think too, that Sister Angelica was a Nun version of a Jesuit. If only someone could have trained, someway, somehow, those Florida democrats how to cast a ballot.
Posted by: Django - N Exile In/Around the 30th Parallel | June 18, 2009 8:29 PM
"He was a war-monger, a bully when it came to foreign relations, and a would-be dictator at home."
Sounds like the modern Republican party to me!
Posted by: Mike | June 19, 2009 9:21 AM
In the photo, he looks like he's drinking again.
I do like the Tiffany flag pin, however.
Last yr. I suggested Obama should get one, and it seems to have brought him verygood luck indeed. :-)
Posted by: ornery | June 19, 2009 11:30 AM
First off, John W is correct. The federal govt generally doesn't create jobs. But IF it were true, Bush had a decent record. As democrats now suddenly like to point out, unemployment is a lagging economic indicator. Bush took off office during a downturn, unemployment went up a bit, then we had full employment for several years. If "the government" is to blamed for the high unemployment in the last year or so, that would certainly include Congress.
In regards to Bush not mentioning regulation, most major deregulation that effected this downturn took place before he took office. He did push for more regulation at times, but apparently had too much opposition, for example:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/white-house-seeks-new-regulator-for-freddie-fannie
Posted by: new score | June 19, 2009 12:59 PM
First off, John W is correct. The federal govt generally doesn't create jobs. But IF it were true, Bush had a decent record. As democrats now suddenly like to point out, unemployment is a lagging economic indicator. Bush took off office during a downturn, unemployment went up a bit, then we had full employment for several years. If "the government" is to blamed for the high unemployment in the last year or so, that would certainly include Congress.
In regards to Bush not mentioning regulation, most major deregulation that effected this downturn took place before he took office. He did push for more regulation at times, but apparently had too much opposition, for example:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/white-house-seeks-new-regulator-for-freddie-fannie
Posted by: new score | June 19, 2009 1:15 PM
"You can spend your money better than the government can." He had no trouble with spending your money when he was doing the spending. What a Manchurian candidate, loser, hypocrite, functional illiterate, maybe not so functional (is our children learning), corrupt, elitist, arrogant, my way or the highway moron. It will be a great day for America, a new beginning, when he puts on the orange jumpsuit, along with the rest of his cabal. I would rather not see or hear from him until that happens.
Posted by: Nancy | June 19, 2009 2:58 PM