Cap and trade roll-call: Republicans save

I hope Congressman Kirk likes the Northeast Corner of Illinois becuase he will never represent the whole state as a senator with that vote. He just lost the Republican primary.

This is why I'm no longer a Republican especially in Illinois there is no difference in Illinois between Republicans and Democrats.

Kirk must have re-thought his plans to run for the Senate. Global warming is a sham, hence the name switch to 'climate change'. If he can't think his way out of a paper bag on the basic issue, he should hang his head in shame.

An opposition party member MUST oppose on core value votes, of which this was one.

My guess is U.S. Representative Mark Kirk of Illinois will follow in the footsteps of U.S. Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania and have a political gender change operation of his own very soon.

Mark Kirk is TOAST among conservatives in the next election.
This cap and trade is spreading the pain among all sectors of the economy at a time when we need relief from taxation.

Thank you, Mark Kirk, for your vote on this important matter. You have my admiration.

I have voted for Kirk and supported him, despite believing him to be a RINO for some time. He is smart and (I thought) principled.

This is the last straw. I had offered to work for his senate campaign, raise funds, etc. Forget it.

He does not even know what the "R" next to his name stands for.

Somebody please slip him a mickey and pose him for some photos with a stripper so we can continue the party's "winning" streak of dumping losers.

Thank you, Mark Kirk, for your vote in this important matter. You have my admiration. I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision.

He says he read it and still voted for it?
I called his office to voice my opinion that it should be voted down, his office worker told me he'd been getting calls all day from the people asking him to vote no on that bill, but yet he still voted yes

Looks like our politicians don't want to repersent the will of the people

Vote them all out !!!

Why would Kirk--or anyone else--support a measure he KNOWS will hurt our economy? Taxing energy production is a job killer. Obama/Congress now have us at 10 percent unemployment. If the Senate goes along with Kirk and others, we could hit 18 or 20 percent. All in the name of the increasingly disputed global warming hysteria. Collective insanity.

Mark Kirk is a RINO.

Mark Kirk made a wrong choice and he'll pay for it at the poll. I've voted for him in the past and have contributed to his campaign, but not anymore. He can kiss his dream of being a governor or senator goodbye.

Looks like we'll have to go for Dillard or someone else for Senate. What was Kirk thinking?

If Mark Kirk runs for US Senate I will do everything in my power to see that he is shown to be the liberal whack job that he truly is. I can't vote for him as US Rep, but if Mark comes out and plays for the US Senate, I can. I promise to be all over him. I'll vote for the reincarnation of Chairman Mao before I'll vote for Kirk. He's really crossed the line this time.

NEVER FORGET!

he read the 1200 pages that were release at 3:00 am, the pages that were not available on the House floor. something tells me that he's being a little less than truthful. his wife must have given the Dems some good dirt to work with.

Does Rep. Kirk have a piece of Al Gore's company that will reap millions with this legislation?

I applaud Rep. Kirk for taking the time to read the bill and acting on his beliefs, not what will be most popular. For everyone here who is not happy with his vote, there are 10 people out there who are.

As soon as a Republican shows any sign of thinking, the bush Republicans want to hang him. What a bunch of losers !! Wake up, all of you bush Republicans, our elected officials make decisions based on the merits of an issue, every once in awhile. Can't you admire that in a member of your own, backward Party ? Aren't you, bush Republicans, tired of being a bunch of losers ?!!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Did any of you read the bill? I thought so.

I'd vote for him against Burris.

Thank you, Mr. Kirk. You could have had no possible motive in voting the way you did except integrity.

Good job Mr. Kirk, if those right wingers won't support you, move to the Smart Party. We live in difficult times and the country needs bi-partisan support of some of these issues. You work for the people first, the Republican party is not right to block every attempt to move the country forward on common sense reforms. Republicans had eight years to improve the country and they failed. Their not the majority and should reach out more often to gain the respect of the country.

Well we can see who listened to Rush and the crew of liars. THE only people who think global warming isn't true are the flat-earthers who think the earth revolves around the moon. The cap and trade will BY FAR help alleviate the problems we have been seeing. The alternative is to do NOTHING which apparently is the platform for the next elections.

Thank you Mark Kirk for voting Yes on this bill. We need the "Free Market" to include the cost of pollution, not pretend pollution it is free.

Every congressman that voted for this terrible bill should never be elected or re-elected to any public office again.This cap and trade is nothing but a gigantic tax bill, with
little or no support from the little man. And who will profit from this bill, none other than Pelosi and her ilk. They can not even prove the need for this bill, its being shoved down our throats. There are many learned scientists that say global warming is a myth.I'm all for saving the planet but further unbiased studies need to be done.

Kirk only has excuse: voting under the influence - of Crook County corruption. He will never eat lunch in this town again.

Reality: Republicans voted 168 to 8 AGAINST this trillion dollar tax hike.

Democrat/Swamp spin: "Republicans are responsible for passing it."

Confronted by the sad reality that is Obamaism, the Democrats who write for the Swamp are becoming more and more bizarre.

What is the difference between Mark Kirk and Roland Burris? The Senate seat is now out of Mark Kirk's reach unless he somehow changes his vote.

Republicans are responsible for passing it? How is that logical? Anyone that voted for it is responsible for it. And as for Kirk congratulating himself for reading it, that laughable. Reading legislation before voting is the bare minimum. Amazing how far our standards and expectatations for our elected officials have dropped.

Kucinich even voted no. That should be enough to tell you how wrong of a vote this was by Kirk.

Thank you Congressman Kirk for standing up and doing what is right for your state, for your country, and for the Earth.

Kirk can read all he wants. I have no faith he can understand a thing. He is the fool that told China not to trust us. He is the fool that wants to increase criminal penalties for pot possession.

I see all the professional green lobbyists have rushed to your defense, congressman.

Don't be too heartened though. They won't vote for you or support you, whether you become a Dem in name as well as deed or not. They will pull the football away Lucy style, and replace you with Chris Kennedy or some other true blue blooded dyed in the wool Dem.

Enjoy the love while it lasts. You're toast.

I voted for this idiot, what was the point? There aren't any Republicans in Illinois anymore....

Sooooo,when my utility bills double or triple,and my property tax bill goes up again with all the other Bullshirt taxes,just who is gonna bail me out?,I thought so,I'm onmy own.THANK YOU DUMB-O-CRATS.......................

I am disappointed in Mark Kirks vote although i am not surprised. I live in his district and I hope he is not surprised that he will no longer be getting my vote.

That's right, eight Republicans passed the bill. Do the math. Had they hewed to the party line, the bill would have failed. The truth is hard to take?

Mark Kirk may have read the bill, but failed to heed anthropogenic global warming counter arguments. You simply cannot accept unproven hypothesis as fact, and legislate as though it were.
Sorry, Mark.

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Posted by: Mark Silva | June 27, 2009 5:45 PM
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And all the Democrats who voted for it aren’t responsible for it? Had none of the Democrats voted for it, it would have failed. That sounds like the greater part of causation to me. And had eight more Democrats hewed the party line and voted for the bill, it would have passed without a single Republican vote. And if my grandmother had wheels she would have been a wagon. And …

And if Janet Reno hadn't removed Elian Gonzales at gunpoint from his relatives' home in Miami, Al Gore would have won Florida and the White House in 2000. Like I said, when you get a close vote, you've got a lot of explanations. And this one, on the energy bill, is as valid as any. More poignnant than most, actually.

So the economy is more important than improving the environment and giving the US the head start in new technologies that will ensure our world leadership role?
Too many of you are playing into the hands of corporate interests that refuse to give up temporary profits for a permanent solution to the worlds ongoing energy needs.
Stop listening to the individual interests that see the status quo is about to change.
Thank you, Rep. Kirk ,for refusing to be bullied by the shambles that still calls itself the GOP.

Don Gettys writes
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"So the economy is more important than improving the environment and giving the US the head start in new technologies that will ensure our world leadership role?"

What makes you think this bill gives us a "head start" or assures us "a leadership role" in green technologies?

First off, several European and Asian companies already have critical mass in this area and we are no closer to "leadership" in the field by passing this bill. Secondly, the technology simply does not exist at this point to get us to 10% of energy needs from wind and solar. We can put windmills and solar panels on every square inch--it'll bankrupt us but won't get us there.

And as for giving the upper hand to big corporations, please grow up; this bill hands unprecedented power to a combination of the state and its chosen corporate beneficiaries. It also gives Wall Street criminals like our friends at Goldman Sachs a license to print money, overseeing the exchange on which these credits will be traded.

Dems are the corporate stooges on this one, not the Republicans. Look in the mirror. You are the sucker.

Won't Kirk be surprised when this law has zero effect on our climate?

Only the U.S. government is arrogant enough to think that world climate responds to American legislation.

But hey, Congress, while you're at it, could do a partial repeal of the law of gravity? It would sure help the airline industry and might even lower airfares!

Kirk is done as a Republican, and for that matter as a member of Congress after 2010.

There are at least three points that work against this bill having any significant effect on "global climate change."

1. This bill still has to pass the Senate to reach the President's desk and, Senate Majority Leader Reid was not confident that he had the votes to do so.

2. You have to assume that industries most effected by this bill will not just move operations to somewhere not ruled by legislated constraints .

3. This bill has NO effect on China and India. Both countries are major polluters and have made NO move to sign the Kypto treaty/ Both countries have also made moves to consolidate industry within their borders and expand export business. The US has done nothing to counter those actions or move to solidfy manufacturing and production.

I know these sound like the "right wing" talking points, but, when an environmental watchdog like Greenpeace is against the bill as well, one wonders how much courage Rep. Kirk's vote took and what, in fact, he got in return.

Whine, bush Republicans, Whine !! Isn't it wonderful to see all of this love and togetherness, for one of their own !! I hope we can find some more issues, where the members of their Party use their thinking caps and vote with the majority, The Democratic Party !! Then, they surely would sound like a choir of stuck pigs, instead of sorry bush Republicans !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

If Mark Kirk read the ENTIRE bill, then I BELIEVE that Iran counted millions of votes legitimately in 2 hours.

Mr. Kirk - you just lost another vote in the next election. Senate, Governor or House - it does not matter. I've been living in your district for 14 years. Always voted for you. Now it's over.

Where else have I heard, "it's supposed to get worse before it gets better...." Oh, right, the surge. The negative impact this bill would have on businesses and households is hard to overlook. It's crippling ability, passing on the costs, forcing each to make the gradual necessary change from old energy to new energy or face extinction and strangulation. Not exactly an incentive based move, but, on the other hand, didn't we offer incentive based, household and business friendly, options. For example, some places would reimburse homeowners/businesses for putting in green friendly solar panels--since, green energy, as is, is too expensive. I wonder how these reimbursement programs worked out. Did people take advantage of them? One thing is certain that the Republicans who continue to dispute the effects of our pollution on our environment, or continue to be concerned about losing one old energy job for one new energy job are wasting time. The latter being that drilling and mining ourselves dry, without making a gradual switch, is pretending to protect the longevity of these drilling and mining jobs. It would be much better for them to take green energy seriously, and offer better solutions-- if they're unsatisfied here. It's quite remarkable how we've come from Bush's treatment of the Kyoto, to Republicans taking a part in passing such a green energy bill. Right now, do nothing Republicans seems to be ahead. (Much like the Democrats managed to sign on many controversial issues of a Republican Administration-- to the dismay of their constituents.) My guess is health care will find a few Republican votes too. Face it people. Your representatives don't care if they can fly by night--they will. "where they know something about pollution." Ouch. Is this pay back for what I said about Chicago and trash. Straight through the heart...haha.

How can you "conservatives" say that global warming is a sham? During the winter and very early spring, you people claimed that our below-average temperatures were "proof" that global warming was not taking place.

Given the fact that in your little end of the Earth, we've had above-average temperatures this past week and some, isn't that sufficient to be proof that global warming is real? If you simpletons are going to use cold weather to "disprove" the theory, that same "logic" would say that the current weather is proof that global warming is taking place.

Maybe you fantics should get an education other than what you lap up from talk radio.

Mark,

And if Al Gore had been elected, he would have spent eight years trying to think of the correct environmental approach to attack al Qaeda after 9-11.

Republicans puff up the impact of a cap-and-trade program on the average family's energy costs.

Dare to learn the truth:

Kirk, perhaps nobody told you but Illinois is the second largest coal producing state next to Montana. A full 17% of the nations coal comes from Illinois. I don't care whether you are a democrat or a republican but when you hack off the right arm of Illinois and kill the coal industry, you deserve the ire of all of the citizens of the state. moron.

I can't believe I actually campaigned for this guy. I held out such high hopes for him.

After voting to pass the largest tax increase in the history of the U.S., I will do everything I legally can to see that he will never represent me in another political office again.

Wow, Silva getting personal. No Mark, the truth isn't hard to take, just your logic. Not surprised that you'd find a way to blame republicans for this disastrous legislation.

Mark Kirk is a disgrace. He sided with the 'Sky is Falling' Chicken Little bunch. Global warming, climate change, or whatever colloquialism is in vogue, is a sham. Hold on to your wallets, here comes the Pelosi Gang. But then, Republicans are supposed to be 'stupid', and I suppose, so are the 700 dissenting scientists. http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=10fe77b0-802a-23ad-4df1-fc38ed4f85e3

Everyday,

If you flatliners believe that global warming is real and man-made ask you self these questions.

How many years has the earth been warming (hint - we were talking about global cooling on the 1970's)?

How old is the earth?

Do the math and ask if result is statiscally significant.

If you belive that it is staistically significant, then you must prove it is caused by man and not something else - say sun spots.

Have fun and show your work

July 1970: The EPA was assigned the daunting task of repairing the damage already done to the natural environment and to establish new criteria to guide Americans in making a cleaner environment a reality. Next July will be the 40th anniversary of its beginning.

Wasn't there a lot of the same criticisms in the 70's when the EPA was established to clean the water air? I just don't get WHY it is so terrible to clean up after yourself and make things better for your children and grandchildren. Anyone who is against cleaner water, air and land please explain.

How can anyone in their right mind vote for one of the biggest Tax Increases in history ?

Einstein,

If you are going to refute man-made global warming, at least attack the insignificant anomalies in the science that supports it. Instead, you throw out an insult followed up by a third graders understanding of the subject.

I won't do your homework for you so I suggest you read up on the following links. They will answer all of your questions.

http://www.ipcc.ch/

http://www.pewclimate.org/

http://www.globalchange.gov/

Aside from this cap and trade bill taxing domestic oil and reducing costs on imported, Mark Kirk has pretty much ended his term as a Rep. Unless he pulls a Arlen Spector and switches.

Kirk will also vote for amnesty and the healthcare scam.

I have a lot of respect for Mark Kirk. He showed some real courage yesterday by voting in favor of the cap and trade bill, which will ultimately create a lot of wealth in the US and generate jobs locally.

He stood up to all the frothing AM radio kooks, and to the teaba.., I mean "tea party" participants who don't know anything about the issues except for what Rush tells them, and Kirk should be commended for that.

I challenge any of the so called "progressives" to please share with me historical examples of where government takes over as much as our Feds are trying to do (including the religion of global warming) and have done well. Let me think. Nazi Germany? The Soviet Union? Cuba? Venezuala? North Korea? China? I think the next step is to take down the Statute of Liberty, because liberty is just about gone.

I have a great deal of respect for Congressman Mark Kirk and his fellow Republican representatives who chose to put the health of our planet and the well being of future generations before politics. Because of their courage millions of new green jobs will be created and America has a chance at an energy future which depends on clean renewable energy sources rather than an adiction to foreign oil which threatens our national security and independence.

Too bad, I thought you might be a viable conservative leader for the future. Your "yes" vote for Cap & Trade is a betrayal of your constituents, conservatives in general, and U.S. Citizens. You have lost my future vote forever.

Dear "Climate Change is based in science"

Two Questions:

#1 The EPA report that was just released by a prominent EPA scientist refuting Global warming was quashed by the drive -bys.

#2 What would you do, asshole, if everyone else keeps polluting (IE, your buddies in communist china, India, et al) and we don't . What part of your pea brain doesn't "get" this?

Industrial production, by its nature, generates byproducts which YOU Goreites call pollution. I'll live with that, and nukes and the combustion engine. You, sir or madam, can take a flying leap.

We actually had your sign on our lawn, nevermore. We can't believe that you betrayed the Republican Party in such a way as to vote for this bill.

Dittohead Patrick,

Read the links I posted. When you have a pedestrian understanding of the subject and the serious consequences the planet is facing, feel free to debate the issue.

Until then, here's another link you can read by Nobel Prize winner, Paul Krugman:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/opinion/29krugman.html?_r=1&scp=6&sq=krugman%20&st=cse

Why do you retreads hate science?