Gates: U.S. ready to defend Hawaii

Ready for what? For Barry to give the Koreans a stern look? For Barry to apologze to the North for driving them to launch the missile?

Breaking the obama code:
negotiation with crazy people is a good solution.
CHANGE=High taxes and social engineering makes the USSA stronger.

What Gates really means is that a resolution has been drafted to present to the United Nations lightly condemning the attack on America. Obama is demanding a wrist slap.
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Apologies to both the victims and the NK's are ready to go. One may not be used, how many electoral votes does Hawaii have anyway?
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Financial assistance will be offered to North Korea in order to replace the missile that was used.
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Obama will make a speech in which he will state he was all set to produce his birth certificate, however, it was destroyed in the attack. He will then continue to destroy our economy under the pretence of stimulus. Stimulus has now gone the way of "Global Warming" so it will now be referred to as "Welfare Invigoration".

BDD, time to put your tinfoil hat back on and go back to your shack in Montana. Nobody believes your exaggerated nonsense.

Well said, Stan.

No Greggie. What Gates really means that the U.S. can physically defend Hawaii from any North Korean missle. Oh, I see you think you're a funny guy. The U.S.A.F. could wipe North Korea off the face of the Earth, in case you aren't aware.
Obama wrecked the economy...I think you're getting Obama and Bush #43 confused, Greggie. Keep listening to Rush Limpbaugh.

Yeah, let's take potshots at President Obama because it's *his* administration's policy of isolationism and cowboy diplomacy that's the cause of Kim Jung Il's sabre-rattling and provocation, right?

Well, yeah, except ... no.

It's good ol' Dubya who decided that the best way to get to North Koreans to calm down was to ignore them. Now they have enough weapons grade plutonium for several nuclear weapons and we have to pay attention to them. Brilliant!

Instead of addressing that, though, people would rather talk about Obama the Scary Socialist/Illegal Alien.

It's practically impossible to take many of Obama's critics seriously because they regularly ignore the issue at hand in favor of the latest GOP red herring and/or because they don't sufficiently grasp serious issues such that they can have an intelligent discussion about them.

Although there are only 3 comments thus far, it disturbs me that 2 of the 3 make a mockery of Obama. The situation with North Korea is not one to make fun of. Perhaps if people read more, they might understand why North Korea is pushing its military might. As some analysts have said, its because of Iraq. They saw that we went into Iraq under false pretenses, and that worries them. Thus, their need to show the US, and other countries, that they can stand up to anyone. The only trouble is, the regime in charge in North Korea is not based in reality. People should be hoping for a peaceful solution to this, and hoping for Obama and team to succeed.

Thank you Stan!

Too many right wing nutjobs on here spewing their ridiculous rants about how this is all somehow Obama's fault. 5 months on the job and he's to blame for everything...

BDD & Greg....two pod people generated at CPAC....
lie...repeat...lie..repeat...lie...repeat....
...Goebbels...Goebbels....Goebbels

We are already fighting in Iraq and one of those Stans. North Korea and Iran has idiots in charge and if we go to war with them where will it end?

Oh, I can't wait for the glorious war against North Korea! They will great us with flowers and candy. I personally am much too important to fight, but I support the idea of war with North Korea as a first resort whole heartedly! Diplomacy is for whimpos. War is always the best answer.

Ready for what? For Barry to give the Koreans a stern look? For Barry to apologze to the North for driving them to launch the missile?Breaking the obama code:
negotiation with crazy people is a good solution.
CHANGE=High taxes and social engineering makes the USSA stronger.

Posted by: BDD | June 18, 2009 3:54 PM
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Teresa,
I guess we should just do what you right-wing knuckle-draggers always do in a time of crisis - give more tax cuts to the rich, start dropping bombs, invade, occupy and then declare "Mission Accomplised!" on an aircraft carrier off the coast of San Diego. That always works.....not!
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When is President Milquetoast going to develop a backbone and tell the North Koreans that if they fire a missile at U.S. territory that they can expect 300 fired back at them? What a wimp for a presidentr, to let a sniveling little backwater country push the United States around. Just because Obama has no pride in this country is no reason for the rest of the country to also quiver.

JFK had the Cuban missile crises. Mr. Obama has the North Korean missile crises.
Times change but remain the same. Interesting.

When is President Milquetoast going to develop a backbone and tell the North Koreans that if they fire a missile at U.S. territory that they can expect 300 fired back at them? What a wimp for a presidentr, to let a sniveling little backwater country push the United States around. Just because Obama has no pride in this country is no reason for the rest of the country to also quiver.

Posted by: Madison | June 18, 2009 4:41 PM
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Thanks to the greedy warmongering Retuglicans that you support we're already at war in two countries, you clown.

SHUT UP and let the adults handle things Wingnuts!

Some of these anti-Obama postings on this issue is just plain strange. The North Koreans have played with all administrations prior to Obama; yet he's to blame for their current childish game. Give me a break and save the politics for taxes and healthcare issues. Both parties have been burned on this one.

With any luck, Michael Moore will be in the vicinity of any strike.

Where is that President of the West Wing when you need him? We need a president with experience, words of wisdom, patience, and tolerance to handle this....Where is President Sheen?

The real trump card here continues to be our trading "partners" in Peking. Does anyone seriously doubt that they, who basically bankroll N. Korea, could not squash that little turd in Pyongyang if the mandarins in the Forbidden City so desired? No, they find the Beloved Leader to be a useful surrogate foil to keep the paper tiger to the west off balance. That drivel about concern for "regional stability" (read: worry about another semi-democratic country developing next door) might be easily offset if Obama, like Bush, had made it clear that a nuclear north is Very Bad For Business and continued massive trade surpluses. However that would be difficult for Washington due to the rapidly rising foreign debt issue. Not to worry, the 6 party talks are certain to achieve peace in our time through the same kind of nuanced, sophisticated diplomacy that the europeans used to persuade Iran to drop it's quest for an islamic bomb. Opps ... that didn't work out much better than Munich.

"Some of these anti-Obama postings on this issue is just plain strange. The North Koreans have played with all administrations prior to Obama; yet he's to blame for their current childish game. Give me a break and save the politics for taxes and healthcare issues. Both parties have been burned on this one."

Dear D,

The current administration think that the solution to a missile aimed at Hawaii is to whine and stamp their feet, and maybe pout.

The current president does not think we should make any effort to prevent the missile from hitting the US, using anti-missile technology that has proven successful. His office as a senator made that clear on numerous occasions, as have Senator Durbin, Reid and nearly every other Democrat.

So it is clear that Obama and his party would rather see 500,000 dead Americans than do anything that might upset North Korea.

Nice to see the cross-eyed Baptist fetus-worshipping Republiscum are still berating Barack for trouncing Cancer McLiverSpot in the MANDATE ELECTION WIN of November 2008 - but you girls should really get over it and realize your 'party of Pederasts' won't be able to regain power for at least the next 31 years - until all these young people who will remember the Depression we are about to enter have forgotten the cardboard patches placed on the bottom of their worn Nike's (made in China) - or the last of the Baptist Taliban like Pat Robertson has been found guilty of boysodomy...like the flowers of your party, Foley of FLA, Craig of IDAHO, and Hastert if ILL.

Simpleton CrackerTrash.

United we stand, divided we fall.

Leave it to right-wing nutcases to go finding scapegoats rather than solutions.

Than again, that's why we're in the situation(s) that we are in, because while any idiot can point fingers and make stupid comments, it actually takes a degree of intelligence to find solutions.

I'm disgusted that these bottom-feeding mental midgets even think they have a place in the political discourse. These knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing "conservatives" are a far greater danger to our nation than any terrorist, rogue regime or disease could ever be.

But hey, when you're not smart enough to actually understand the issues, what can you expect besides stupid, pointless comments?

These people seem intent on making the term "conservative" a synonym for "stupid," "lazy," "crass" and "uneducated."

Real conservatives are offended that these drooling dolts have stolen our ideology and instead, turned it into an excuse for stupidity and demonstrating a complete lack of any kind o f intelligence or class.

I don't call myself "conservative" anymore for fear of being mistaken for someone who shouldn't be allowed in society without a chaperon.

Boy the right wing war lovers are sure busy this week. They'd like to start wars with Iran and now North Korea in addition to Iraq and Afghanistan. Shall we go after Cuba while we are at it? Oops, I almost forgot thier demand that we invade Somalia to wipe out the pirate threat.

I wonder if President Obama will exploit this for a photo op to impress his fans, like that last hack of a president exploited tragedy to get the suckers that supported him to pretend they were looking at some kind of a hero when he got to play fighter pilot for a day.

Republicans are so easily impressed it would be funny, if they didn't have the ruinous effect on our country that they have.

I'm guessing that some of these idiots are bashing Obama simply because they don't have any soundbites from Rush to spew about North Korea, and God knows, these people have no knowledge about NK or the issues between our countries.

It's sad that these people don't do their patriotic duty to stay away from the polling places on election day.

Now wouldn't this be a good time to test out missile defense technology?In a perfect world,we would have a President that would shoot this missile out of the sky.God I would love to see the look on Kim Jung Il's face if we blasted one of his primitive missiles out of the sky.We could say "go ahead and launch a missile at us,we will blow yours out of the sky and send a few your way."

I am not saying Bush would have the stones to,but I know the great Reagan would.Oh how I long for the days.Oh the days.Heck,Kennedy would not stand for this.

Obama must be furious at North Korea.Not because they are saber-rattling,but because they are taking attention away from domestic issues.Gosh darnet,Obama has to deal with rouge leaders.I thought that the world was going to come together and sing kumbaya.

Pay no mind to the rats on the right. They don't know what they want. It's naive to say we should go into Pakistan if they can't get the job done but..... back you're bags.... you've just won a trip....to talk tough to North Korea!!!! Oh, but wait....we'll trow in tough talk to China and tough talk to Iran!!! All expenses paid by.... Crazy People in Pakistan Will Only Charge You 5 Billion Dollars So You Can Talk Nice To Them.

Christopher, well said.

Every administration benefits from a strong opposition party that proposes rational alternatives. The president could use constructive ideas from the Republicans right now on a number of issues, but the GOP is weak and has allowed its extemist wing to grab the microphone.

We see this in Illinois as well. The state GOP has been abandoned to the greedy and the crazy, and this has allowed corruption among Democrats to flower statewide.

I think I've seen this movie before. An Asian nation attacks Hawaii and the ensuing conflict helps pull the US out of a depression.

Well since every one on hear is saying that we need to find a peaceful solution let me suggest this.

Lets give N Korea a few billion dollars to not fire the missile. That worked for Clinton.

that way N Korea can feel like they were victorious and Obama can be a hero for solving this diplomatically.

When N Korea blows that pile of money we can repeat the whole process.

Thank God Bush and the adults had the foresight to develop the missle defense shield that Boom Boom say's is uncessary. Funny that it is the first thing deployed isn't it?

Thank God Bush and the adults had the foresight to develop the missle defense shield that Boom Boom say's is uncessary. Funny that it is the first thing deployed isn't it?

It would seem that OBAMA isn't playing nice with N.Korea.. to be fair they didn't like the way Bush played either.. guess they don't want to play..
Maybe Obama and Bush could join together and write a letter.. Bush could call N. Korea a excess of evil and OBAMA could apologize

So it is clear that Obama and his party would rather see 500,000 dead Americans than do anything that might upset North Korea.

Posted by: Dan C | June 18, 2009 5:38 PM
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What is with you warmongering idiots on the right-wing lunatic fringe, Danny?

After all of the un-called for deaths of our troops and people all around the world, courtesy of your heroes in BushCo, and after getting your butts kicked in two straight elections, you Wingnut dopes still haven't learned your lesson?!?!

Here's an idea Wingnuts, the next time we have a war maybe you can do something other than talking tough, while you're hiding behind your keyboards, - you know, like actually signing up for duty!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFGit_tZDqs

Can the left wing nut job Obambi defenders at least admit that Bush was correct to label North Korea as evil?

Were any missiles fired at Hawaii when Bush was president?

Remember when left wing nut jobs labeled missle defense "star wars"? Guess if Reagan didn't follow through in replacing the Carter peace flowers, we'd lack the ability to intercept such threats.

Is cutting missle defense as Obambi has done a good idea?

Bush could call N. Korea a excess of evil and OBAMA could apologize

Posted by: Independent Voter | June 18, 2009 6:45 PM
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Bush also called Iran part of his stupid "Axis of Evil" and it did nothing but make Amedinejad more powerful in Iran.....and now that your warmongering heroes in the Bush Crime Family are gone - Iranians are in the street trying to throw Amedinejad out of office.

Face it Republicans, you have NO CREDIBILITY WHATSOEVER ON MATTERS OF FOREIGN POLICY ANYMORE.

Actually, you don't have much credibilty on anything anymore.

If it was still up to the morons who run the Rethuglican party and their dittoheaded draft-dodging cheerleaders on here, we would already have started dropping bombs on both N Korea and Iran.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-eyuFBrWHs

When Bush was in office, his critics bemoaned his failed containment of North Korea. That situation is tenfold worse...worse than ever...now but those same detractors don't say a word. We are sufficiently removed now that this belongs completely to Obama and it's getting worse daily.

BDD, wrap the tinfoil Stan mentioned around your scrotum--it'll make you invisible to aliens (just watch Hill Street Blues sometime). As for the "powerful sea-based radar" that Sec Gates referenced, my company built a portion of it. Although it looks like a floating golf ball, it was designed to track a softball-sized object from Russia to Alaska. Now I realize that you-know-who can see Russia from her window in the Governor's mansion, but I, for one, am not content to bet the welfare of our good-buddies in Hawaii on her eyesight. Hard to imagine how anyone (other than Fox News) would question our determination against Kim Jong Il (and his son "Mentally").

I agree that the right wingers that Obama has to do more than level more sanctions and intercept a few ships (but not board them). That said, what exactly did Bush do with Korea that was so enviable????

President Obama,

Don't listen to the Republican knuckle-draggers. They're out of power for a very good reason - they spent the last eight years screwing up everything they touched.

Republicans don't do bipartisanship, all they care about is Party loyalty. Above all else, including sanity. They're like a crime family.

Republicans absolutely will not and cannot agree with anything the Democrats do, ever, because their whole authoritarian belief system hinges on following their leader/father/daddy-figure, even if he (Newt, Rush etc) walks them off a cliff.

Thank you,
75% of America and the rest of the World.

Looks like it's time to call in a professional spy.

Launch a missle with a dummy warhead that will land in North Korea and tell them next time it's for real.

Maybe if they destroy Hawaii we can offer them food, aid, and health care advice? This will teach them a lesson!

Yes—the U.S. should defend Hawaii.
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SCANDAL! SCANDAL! SCANDAL!

EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY!

George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her.

“In her suit, Margie Schoedinger states that George W. Bush committed sexual crimes against her, organized harassment and moral pressure on her, her family members and close relatives and friends. As Schoedinger said, she was strongly recommended to keep her mouth shut. . . . Furthermore, she alleges that George Bush ordered to show pressure on her to the point, when she commits suicide” (blog of drizzten).

“One of those ‘very leasts’ [was] George Bush’s personal complicity in the death (murder to be precise) of my friend Margie Schoedinger in September of 2003. Determining the exact whereabouts and contacts of [then] president-elect George Bush on September 21 thru 22, 2003, should be entirely lacking in difficulty” (Leola McConnell—Nevada Progressive Democratic Candidate for U.S. Senate in 2010).

McConnell is correct: Bush applying pressure (continuously criminally stalking Margie Schoedinger) purposefully to force Schoedinger to commit suicide does in fact constitute murder where it culminated in her death.

Bush is a racist hate criminal and hates black people (please feel free to see my “GEORGE W. BUSH IS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN U.S. HISTORY” blog). (Schoedinger was an African-American woman.)

BEWARE: If the president of the United States hates one—for whatever reasons—he can continuously criminally stalk one to the point that one cannot get away from it, and one ultimately commits suicide in desperation to escape. He can murder people in this way.

Bush is getting away with his murder of Schoedinger—with no sheriff, prosecutor, or court willing to uphold the rule of law.

Bush’s method of murdering Schoedinger cannot exist in a vacuum: he must have murdered other people in the same way.

Bush should confess, come out with the names of all of the people whom he murdered in the disgusting way he murdered Schoedinger, undergo execution, and accordingly find himself at the intersection where he would be free.

(There are thousands of copies of the information above on the Internet. It exists very extensively in all major search engines. Please feel free to go to any major search engine, type “George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her” or “Bush applying pressure (continuously criminally stalking Margie Schoedinger) purposefully to force Schoedinger to commit suicide does in fact constitute murder where it culminated in her death,” hit “Enter,” and find innumerable results.)
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Andrew Wang
(a.k.a. “THE DISSEMINATING MACHINE”)
B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993

Jim, my favorite phrase of the day:
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These people seem intent on making the term "conservative" a synonym for "stupid," "lazy," "crass" and "uneducated."
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Jim, we would never take this synonym away from the left. It's all yours, no worries.

Thank God Bush and the adults had the foresight to develop the missle defense shield that Boom Boom say's is uncessary. Funny that it is the first thing deployed isn't it?

Posted by: ndbprr | June 18, 2009 6:42 PM
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You mean the "missle defense" crap that Bush and the Republicans wasted billions in tax payer dollars on and it STILL DOESN'T WORK?

Yeah, "thank god" that Republicans made sure that the Military Industrial Complex is able to continue ripping us off even after they've been voted out of office.....not!

I don't understand why this isn't the leading story... instead, it's just another story about political corruption.

After careful consideration I have come to the conclusion that the North Koreans and the Obama administration cooked this whole thing up behind closed doors just to see what laughs they could get some from some of the postings - from BOTH sides.

And you didn't let them down.

He is testing a weak president. I think that is clear as day. Be honest you liberal nutjobs.

I can almost bet you, that Gates told the Air Force to change the engine oil and check the tires on the B-2 bombers at Hickman Air Force Base. Their loaded for bear.

Not surprisingly, the very same chickenhawk Neocon nutjobs who pushed for the unnecessary invasion of Iraq (Bill Kristol, Brit Hume) are calling for the bombing of North Korea.
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http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/06/kristol-and-hume-call-for-targeted-air-strikes-on-north-korea.php

I vomit in my mouth when reading posts from anti Obama people saying he is weak. These idiot republicans think that just cause you want diplomacy first means you will not punch back when swung at. This is why the Republican party is a joke, and still does not get why their party is on it's way to demise. Obama will handle any situation with class AND strength when needed. Hey right wingers? Your elephant is ready, and they are offering one way trips to obscurity. Dont let the trunk hit ya on the way out.

I must say, the debate thus far seems to suggest that they just shut down the Nincompoop Club for the evening, sending you all home to comment on this story.

The truth is that the latest from North Korea's Chief Nincompoop has nothing to do with the past or current administrations' conduct. However, the responsibility to handle this situation assertively and decisively lies with one man . . . I sure hope he's up to the task.

Obama is now asking himself "What would Jimmy Carter do?"

Hawaii is east of North Korea. I hope that this is a misquote.

Obama is a socialist!!! Obama caused our stock market to take a dump!!! Obama is a terrorist!!! Obama caused North Korea to create nuclear weapons and test missiles!!! Obama can't handle an international crisis!!!

Does anyone remember what GW did when he heard that the planes struck the towers? He fumbled like an idiot (or maybe he was still trying to sound out that last sentence in the children's book he was attempting to read). I have confidence that our President will be able to handle any situation that arises with North Korea.
A person with any sense of world politics understands that we can't just invade another country on a whim. Look where that leaves us today. Yet every redneck idiot wants us to kick a** and ask questions later. Grow up and read a book..take off your dunce hat and think for yourself instead of relying on talking points from Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. And last of all, stop being so worried about a terrorist attack if you live in bumf*** nowhere. Terrorists have never heard of your small redneck town even though you are exactly the type of people that they wish to target... I can rant on forever about these idiots but I'll just leave it at this since it is directed at the article.

I have several comments about you right wingnuts. First, you can't read. Gates said he will retaliate if necessary. Second, what makes you think any President, inclluding your hero, Bush would have come right out and threatened to bomb North Korea? You guys are incredibly idiotic!

North Korea has some of the world's fiercest artillery in distance of and aimed at South Korea's capital, Seoul. If we scrambled the jets and fired our missles, they would still have time to wipe the city off the map. And how many US troops are on the border, in harm's way? The casualty figures from even a short war would make those from our adventures in Afghanistan and Iraq look modest.

I'm more worried about Right Wing Domestic Terrorism here in American than I am of some two bit dictator in N Korea.
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Let me see if I got this right:

North Korea *MAY* be planning to launch one of its terribly unreliable Shortdong missiles in the general direction of Hawaii.

Assuming said missile makes it off the pad in one piece (not guaranteed, given their record), it doesn't have sufficient range to actually reach Hawaii; the best it could do is splash into the Pacific a good 500 miles shy of its objective.

Tell me again what we're all hyperventilating about? At worst, or perhaps at best, our friends in North Korea will give us a harmless real-world test of our missile interceptors. Rather kind of them to pick up the tab, really.

Now, with that matter settled, can we get back to the things that matter, like cleaning up the mess left by the last thirty years of political and economic irresponsibility?

Some of the more "interesting" comments in here are from the always loony, always ignorant members of the Left. There are comments about greedy war-mongering Republicans that put us in two wars. Hmmmm, seems one of them, Afghanistan, is a direct result of that country's Taliban allowing Al Qaeda to launch terror attacks from there, and followed by 9/11. Al Qeada and the Taliban fluorished during the presidency of one Bill Clinton. It is always nice to know, though, that the Loony Left keeps showing it never really did support us going into Afghanistan following 9/11.
The loony left: always on the side of the terrorists.

BDD et al.,

There are some young men collecting for the SEALs at your back door who'd like to speak with you.....

O, wait. They are SEALs......

Al Qaeda was flourishing in Afghanistan, that's why we invaded Iraq.

The loony left: always on the side of the terrorists.

Posted by: John D | June 19, 2009 10:49 AM

Right. That's why the Republicans turned their back on Afghanistan, and have consistantly argued against going after Al Qaeda in their Pakistani safe havens. The Republicans are the best friend Bin Ladin has ever had. They have done every thing they can ro protect Bin Ladin,and you havecheered that protection every step of the way. Why do you hate America John D? Why do you want to protect Al Qaeda?

Loony John D should enlighten us about the relatonship between the Bush and bin Laden families. He's another one of these Republicans who would love the see the U.S. attacked again. And another Republican who has a fixation for Bill Clinton.

what are the talks of this system not being tested on long range missils. that means there is at least a 50% chance of possibility that it will not work at all. millions of people come to hawaii to visit not to mention the hundreds of thousands of armed forces men and women stationed here. It a missil was launched at any part of the US it should be that even if the missil didnt hit we should take immediate military action.

You are all missing the point, this isn't about right or left. This is about protecting or country. While you all sit around and point fingers at each other Bush did this Obama did that North Korea is going to launch nuclear weapons pointed in our direction and nobody even seems to care. WAKE UP! We are in trouble. Bush pissed everybody off and Obama is going to let it happen to teach us a lesson and blame it all all on the right.
Our leaders have become a joke and America is going to be the punchline.

Not to raise conspiracy any higher, but is it just coincidence Obama's vault birth certificate is in Honolulu?

Doesn't it concern anyone that our secretary of defense thinks NK can reach Hawaii while firing missiles westward? If that's true, i'd be worried about more than just Hawaii.

Its funny how the divide between the two parties in this country is out of control but only with the voters. If most of you would take the time to do a little research and investigate the facts you would find that for the most part the parties are not that far apart on a lot of issues. The major differences between the parties is fundamental and this brings healthy debate to the table. Clinton, just as Bush did, tried to bring the North Koreans in line by providing financial aid in return for the N K's meeting certian goals that would end there nuclear capabilites. Didn't work then and will not work now.