Gingrich, Huckabee: God on their side

If God is on their side , how do the Grinch and the Huckster explain the fact that

our bi-racial state senator from little ole Hyde Park down here on the South Side of Chicago was able to move from that position to the White House in 4 years?

East View Park to 1600 Penna. Ave. in 4 years?

This is just so ironic - these men oppose the theocracies of Islam - but advocate biblical interpretations of the U. S. Constitution. Sunday is for religion, Tuesday is for politics. .........

http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/04/05/sunday-is-for-religion-tuesday-is-for-politics/

Man oh man! Now I remember where I saw UpChuckA-Bee in the past!
He was that guy that stood at Michigan and Ontario with the sign that had like 20 points on it referring to the end of the world!


God had nothing to do with the defeat of the British in the AR. If we thank anybody it should be the French.

""The notion that we are just one of many among equals is nonsense," Huckabee said. The United States (Great Britain) is a "blessed" nation, he said, calling the American revolutionary defeat of the British empire (The British defeat of Napoleon) "a miracle from God's hand."

This is, of course, exactly how the British felt about themselves during their reign as rulers of the world.
Now I see this cretin is displaying the same self destructive pride.

My estimation of the Hucksters intelligence diminishes daily.

Okay..I think they all need their meds and led back to the home.

It isn't whether or not God is on their side; it's whether or not they are on the side of God. Would God be guilty of racism, sexism, bigotry, prejudice, hypocrisy and personal/political ambitions? Would God have made White southern Baptists the most racially hateful people in America? Would God want the south to rise again or would he want equality for ALL of his children?

By the way, God did not have a religious denomination preference nor did he have a political or national preference. The people who divide and pit God's children against one another have absolutely nothing to do with God.

Our God is stronger than your God!

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Posted by: osage | June 7, 2009 12:02 PM
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osage,
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You have some explaining to do.
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Your question, “Would God have made White southern Baptists the most racially hateful people in America?” implies that all white SBC members are racially hateful. What reason do you have to judge ALL of them so harshly? If you can’t make out a case against all of them (and you can’t even come close to doing that), aren’t you also being hypocritical for judging them? Isn’t it racism on your part to draw the negative distinction you are drawing on the basis of their white-ness? Aren’t you, too, being divisive?
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You had also better define, or re-define, some of the words you use, such as “sexism,” “bigotry,” and “prejudice.” The Judeo-Christian God (assuming that’s the same God you are referring to) is very intolerant in some ways, has very distinct prejudices, and has very definite ideas about the proper roles of men and women. Are we even talking about the same God, or have you re-made God in your own image?

I'm so sick of Christians. Not all of you, or even a majority of you. Just the people you allow to speak for you. If you guys want us to take you seriously, you need to start slapping these people down when they act like they're speaking for all of you.

As long as the more visible affiliates of the party continue to peg Obama as kind, empathetic, relative, worldly,-- themselves as the opposite of--, they will surely win fights they can win, but they will ultimately lose the war. They will end up sounding like a bunch of Puritan spawns. Not that there is anything wrong with Puritans.
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BO won't drastically alter our policies-- he's just slapping on a happy face. We are not one among equals-- we are a heaving Super Power. The happy face just makes it easier to swallow our policies--which, I presume, won't drastically alter from previous administrations.

Yes ...nothing makes one more sick of the so called religious than the hypocricy in their life. Newt.....the dead beat dad, draft dodging, and sign these divorce papers in the hospital after surgery for cancer..... Gingrich. But hey! all one needs do is say a few Hail Mary's, a little contrition and the other religious hold them in esteem more than the non religious man who lived a moral life.

Yes, Bill, you are correct. John w still thinks that non-christians are incapable of doing good. It is that kind of mentality that is driving people away from christianity in droves. I think it is the narrow minded christians that are driving good people away from the repuplican party in droves. But hey, they've got god on their side. Isn't there a saying about pQQping in your own well?

JW,
I can think of a couple W.S.B's that aren't racist: The Carters. Clinton.

Well, GOD IS AGAINST AMERICA! Why, when He gave us His Blessing and Birthright? When we are the son of Joseph named Manasseh? When our younger brother Ephraim received the greater blessing - The British Empire?

BECAUSE OF OUR SINS! We will be defeated by a revived, German-led (like always) Holy Roman Empire. Yes, they go back to their Catholic roots because of the moslem threat. And you all will become slaves ( the 1/3 of you left alive after the war, famine and pestilence)!

Harold Reimann, your funny!

The days when Harold post are some of my favorite here. He is always found spreading some of that good christian fear from his basement in an undisclosed location.

I'll print the whole song for you. Bob Dylan at his most brilliant and creative time of his life, penned this beautiful, satirical, sarcastic anti-war masterpiece.

"With God On Our Side"

-Bob Dylan 1963

Oh my name it is nothin'
My age it means less
The country I come from
Is called the Midwest
I's taught and brought up there
The laws to abide
And that land that I live in
Has God on its side.

Oh the history books tell it
They tell it so well
The cavalries charged
The Indians fell
The cavalries charged
The Indians died
Oh the country was young
With God on its side.

Oh the Spanish-American
War had its day
And the Civil War too
Was soon laid away
And the names of the heroes
I's made to memorize
With guns in their hands
And God on their side.

Oh the First World War, boys
It closed out its fate
The reason for fighting
I never got straight
But I learned to accept it
Accept it with pride
For you don't count the dead
When God's on your side.

When the Second World War
Came to an end
We forgave the Germans
And we were friends
Though they murdered six million
In the ovens they fried
The Germans now too
Have God on their side.

I've learned to hate Russians
All through my whole life
If another war starts
It's them we must fight
To hate them and fear them
To run and to hide
And accept it all bravely
With God on my side.

But now we got weapons
Of the chemical dust
If fire them we're forced to
Then fire them we must
One push of the button
And a shot the world wide
And you never ask questions
When God's on your side.

In a many dark hour
I've been thinkin' about this
That Jesus Christ
Was betrayed by a kiss
But I can't think for you
You'll have to decide
Whether Judas Iscariot
Had God on his side.

So now as I'm leavin'
I'm weary as Hell
The confusion I'm feelin'
Ain't no tongue can tell
The words fill my head
And fall to the floor
If God's on our side
He'll stop the next war.

John W,

I agree God is intolerant, prejudice, etc. He is intolerant of those who do not keep his commandments, and, when they break his commandments (which many of us do from time to time), don't follow His Son to salvation.

But when you say "has very distinct prejudices, and has very definite ideas about the proper roles of men and women", are you talking only in "sexual terms" (i.e. hetero/homo) or do you also mean women should not be allowed to have certain jobs, be paid less for the same job, must stay in the kitchen, etc.?

Just clarify, please?

Well, as a true republican/conservative woman, I must say that Harold Reimann's comments make a great deal of sense to me.

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Posted by: Steve34 | June 8, 2009 2:51 PM
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I do not believe a woman’s role is to be barefoot, pregnant and laboring over a hot stove; especially if that’s not a role she chooses for herself. Nor do I believe that God hates women who don’t play that role or even those who don’t marry. I also believe that women ought to be paid for the value of their work. If that means women get paid more than men, all the better.
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What I meant is that God made men and women for each other, to love each other, to care for each other, and to be each other’s companion and helper. In a state of marriage, they are not only all of these things for one another; they are a unity rather than their separate identities. It’s deviations from this ideal against which God is prejudiced and intolerant.
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This has ramifications regarding human behavior which do not seem to resonate any more. We live in a society that has long marketed individuals much as it markets cars. The superficial and material have come to trump the essential and spiritual. Having something is more important than being someone. Enhancing the marketability of one’s package is more important than cleaning up the inside. The tragic consequence of this attitude is that people have been trained to be little more than intimate strangers with one another. Spouses and other loved ones are devalued and become expendable in pursuit of materialism. This goes a long way to explain (although not completely) why 50% percent of all marriages still end in divorce, and why the single most cited reason for divorce is “finances.” This, in turn, feeds our current system of serial polygamy. Everyone can have more than one spouse; just not at the same time. Lovely, huh?
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There are many who would view this perspective as sexist, prejudiced and/or bigoted. They would complain that it’s not liberating enough if they can’t change interpersonal relationships like they change their clothes, or their minds. This is just one more example of man rebelling against God by re-creating himself in his or her own image.

Not sure I understand "marketed individuals". Certainly you mean that as distinct from "individuality", which is something God gave each one of us. We all have different talents and abilities that are "individual traits" that should be celebrated, nutured and allow each individual to get the most out of them.

Not sure I understand "marketed individuals".
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Posted by: Steve34 | June 8, 2009 11:14 PM
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What I meant is that people treat each other like commodities or commercial products, and often in their interpersonal relationships. Hence, one can metaphorically describe the process of developing an interpersonal relationship as “marketing” - i.e. selling one’s person to another by one’s packaging and promised material attributes. Yes, society really does create people that shallow.

I LOVE HUCKABEE & HE IS MY ROLE MODEL.