Obama's healthcare push: Grassroots: The Swamp
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Chicago Tribune
Posted June 8, 2009 10:05 AM

The Swamp

by Mark Silva

As President Barack Obama pushes for healthcare reform this summer, he also is attempting to rally that 'permanent campaign'' of supporters known as Organizing for America. The president recently telephoned supporters from Air Force One, and over the weekend, the organization circulated an email message to supporters.

The president spells out the three principles of the reform that he is pressing, with House and Senate leaders promising to expedite plans in the coming weeks.

"First, the rising cost of health care must be brought down,'' Obama says. "Second, Americans must have the freedom to keep whatever doctor and healthcare plan they hjave or to choose a new dortor or healthcare plan if they want. And third, all Americans must have qualifty and affordable healthcare.''

Obama and Organizing for America are calling this their "Health Care Organizing Kick Off.'' Tens of thousands of Americans attended thousands of events in all 50 states this weekend where they discussed the urgency of passing health care reform this year and how they could work in their communities to achieve that goal, the Democratic National Committee says.

Rep. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) has suggested that organizing grassroots support is not the way to cultivate a debate in Congress, with Republicans warning that everything that the Democrats are talking about amounts to more government control and taxes.
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Haven't gone to doctors in 45 years. Taken no drugs. Spent not one cent. God is my health care program. It's free. Jesus Christ paid the price by being whipped with a whip with metal bits so he was marred more than any man.

The command from God is to go to Him when we are sick. James 5:14. You all are going to another god, disobeying the 1st Commandment. No wonder it costs so much, 2 trillion a year, and you are sicker than ever. IT'S A CURSE! And you all want more of it! Whom the gods want to destroy they first make mad!


As President Barack Obama pushes for healthcare reform this summer, he also is attempting to rally that 'permanent campaign'' of supporters known as Organizing for America. The president recently telephoned supporters from Air Force One, and over the weekend, the organization circulated an email message to supporters.


I think we should wait on any healthcare reform from Congress and the Prez. until we see the new models of Obamamobiles from our very own Government Motors as this would be a excellent indication of what to expect with our very own government healthcare company.


ALL HANDS ON DECK!

Howard Dean and the Democrats are correct.

"a" (Toothy, Robust, Affordable, Immediate, Triggerless, Medicare-Like ) "public health insurance option" (For All Who Want It) "is more important than bipartisanship, and Democrats should pass health-care legislation that includes the option with 51 votes if necessary."

"Democrats should have "no intention" of working with Republicans if it's not the strongest possible legislation that could be passed with a simple majority." (Howard Dean)

CONTACT CONGRESS and your representatives Now! And tell them you demand ALL of the minimum requirements above. This is the time for maximal, toothy, sustained pressure on Congress to get this done. Be creative. But be relentless.

This is what WE THE PEOPLE gave the Democrats all that power to do for ALL of us.

In medicine and healthcare there is only one acceptable standard. And that standard is the HIGHEST level of EXCELLENCE! you can provide for everyone. Nothing less is acceptable for a precious human life.

And the White House is right. "Good health care reform is essentially good economic policy." (Christina Romer)

BUT HEAR ME WELL! Just as I warned you before 911. Before the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. And before the US and Global economic crisis.

I must tell you now that healthcare reform is now a critical matter of NATIONAL SECURITY. A-H1N1 (Swine Flu) was yet another loud WAKE-UP! call. And there is MUCH! worse lurking, and poised to strike at any moment. Working against the clock, many of us have known this for a long time now. And this is why we have been pushing so hard for so long without fully saying why. But Congress and the American people are literally running out of time.

I'll tell you more later. But get healthcare reform done NOW!.

SPREAD THE WORD!

God Bless All Of You

jacksmith -- WORKING CLASS


Notice how Obama and Congress has failed to mention anything about reforming medical malpractice or the cost of the trial lawyers and their litigation in the healthcare costs! Just think of the massive savings if healthcare providers did not have to practice defensive medicine. Just goes to show us they are selective and not truly being honest in this whole charade. There already is a unfunded deficit in Medicare to the tune of 6 Trillion dollars and he thinks that a government plan will be the answer? More government control. More costs. Less choice. A disaster in the making, again.


First, how can this be called "grass roots" when it is being organized and orchestrated by the administration? Second, if the people supporting this know what it is and why the want it, why do they need to be provided "talking points?" In case you're having trouble answering those questions: 1) because it isn't a grass roots effort. It is being organized and orchestrated by the administration. 2) because, unfortunately, Americans have lost the ability to think for themselves. So, the sheep must be led to the shearing (hopefully not to the slaughter, though I'm beginning to wonder.)

Before you decide you really want the government running healthcare, you should sit down and list out the programs that the government currently runs that are working. Your list will be very short - and you will get an idea of what you can expect if this stuff gets implemented.


Buckle up, boys and girls. Here comes Obama's "grass roots organization", read ACORN, flush with porkulus cash, to convince you that gubmint healthcare is a panacea. Pardon my skepticism.


President Obama's push for health care apparently does not include Medicare for All, Single Payer or any other plan which will eliminate the enormous cost of sales commissions, insurance underwriting restrictions and obscenely excessive compensation packages for health care executives.
Until President Obama and Congress deal with these issues, real health care reform is "dead in the water."
Frank


With the Republican smear-the-public-option campaign---designed by Wingnut mouth-breather Frank Luntz---in full swing, here's a handy, crystal-clear rebuttal you can print out and leave on windshields and utility poles (and even in emergency rooms!) across America:


5 THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA'S PUBLIC HEALTH INSURANCE OPTION


1. Choice, choice, choice. If the public health insurance option passes, Americans will be able to choose between their current insurance and a high-quality, government-run plan similar to Medicare. If you like your current care, you can keep it. If you don't—or don't have any—you can get the public insurance plan.


2. It will be high-quality coverage with a choice of doctors. Government-run plans have a track record of innovating to improve quality, because they're not just focused on short-term profits. And if you choose the public plan, you'll still get to choose your doctor and hospital.


3. We'll all save a bunch of money. The public health insurance option won't have to spend money on things like CEO bonuses, shareholder dividends, or excessive advertising, so it'll cost a lot less. Plus, the private plans will have to lower their rates and provide better value to compete, so people who keep their current insurance will save, too.


4. It will always be there for you and your family. A for-profit insurer can close, move out of the area, or just kick you off their insurance rolls. The public health insurance option will always be available to provide you with the health security you need.


5. And it's a key part of universal health care. No longer will sick people or folks in rural communities, or low-income Americans be forced to go without coverage. The public health insurance plan will be available and accessible to everyone. And for those struggling to make ends meet, the premiums will be subsidized by the government.


It might not hurt to give your senators a jingle and ask 'em which they embrace more: campaign contributions from the big insurance lobby and Frank Luntz's Republican propaganda, or historic legislation that will enhance their legacy and make them heroes among their constituents for improving the health and well-being of all Americans. Be patient---sadly, it could take some of 'em a while to decide.



Who do you want making your healthcare decisions? A Republican backed bean counter on the 14th floor of some giant insurance company or your doctor? Right now, the bean counter is making that decision, based on what's good for his big insurance company, not what's good for you.


These big insurance companies need some checks and balances, just like the banking industry needs some regulation. Republicans think everything is working just fine the way it is. They thought the same thing about AIG. And we know how that turned out.



It's like pulling teeth to get insurance companies to pay legitimate claims for work that is well within standards of practice.


They do it repeatedly...over and over again on the same types of claims. It is ...prove to us that you aren't cheating.


It's so widespread that it is not an accident. The vested interests of insurance companies is to limit claims.


A doctor should be able to practice medicine and should not have to spend half of his/her time dealing with insurance issues. This takes time away from actually seeing patients and treating illnesses.


The big insurance companies are out for profit and must work to maximize their value on the stock market and not our friends. They treat patients like widgets or cost centers. This is not a culture of trust, caring, compassion, and fiduciary responsibility. If you were dumb enough to hope that Countrywide Mortgage would preserve your home and Lehman Brothers would preserve your retirement fund, then you will be stupid enough to expect Anthem Blue Cross and the other insurance companies to be there to protect your health. Yet it seems the GOP want's to continue under this delusion.



Only relentless greed should drive private insurers out of the health care business. We need a Universal Medical care, without premiums, co-pays and pre-existent conditions clauses. Those of you have good employee health insurance, might remember there may come a time when they have lost their job. Then having no medical insurance, or then you have retired and live on a pension, with federal health insurance. Perhaps you will think twice about condemning any kind of Universal health care.


Members of Congress have government run healthcare!
It's way past time they sacrificed for the good of the country. In case they haven't noticed, this country and 90% of the people in it are broke. We can't afford to pay a freaking middleman for mandated insuranced instead of healthcare. Everybody needs to make this the line in the sand.



"5 THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA'S PUBLIC HEALTH INSURANCE OPTION"


It would be great if any of this were credible, but sadly it's not. The best description of Obama care I have heard to date is: "All the efficiency of the postal service, with all the compassion of the IRS." Thanks but no thanks.


Today's GOP is being given an absurd amount of deference and every imaginable opportunity to present their views through the corporate media's mouthpiece. It's as though they still hold power in some sort of bizarro fifth, sixth and seventh branches of government that only manifest, ghost-like, before the eyes of Beltway columnists.


And yet despite being offered the chance to go toe-to-toe with Dem ideas (a chance we were never given), they flail utterly. We just saw Rob Portman, the GOP's annointed candidate for Senate in Ohio, have this to say on healthcare:


"I don’t think there is a Republican alternative at this point.
~ Rob Portman (R-Ohio)
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http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/senate-republicans/republican-senate-candidate-admits-gop-has-no-position-on-health-care/



Harold Reimann, your hilarious.


Government healthcare stinks it will end up like welfare mess in America.

If Congress has any love for their voters they would push the drug companies for lower price drugs instead of accepting Political Donations.


Don't let the Republican party and their special interest groups and lobbyists scare you, people!
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http://www.aarpmagazine.org/health/8_myths_about_health_care_reform.html



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Posted by: Speaking Truth To Power | June 8, 2009 2:54 PM
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Oh, goody. Not only do we have the DailyKos propaganda sheet AGAIN, it is still full of falsehoods. There is no basis to say about any of this stuff. Using “high quality” and “government” in the same sentence is an oxymoron. Saving money is a myth too. We will end up paying through the nose. Nice to know that we’ve all been propagandized again today.


It's like pulling teeth to get insurance companies to pay legitimate claims for work that is well within standards of practice.
Ref--
Wait till you have Health Care, you will never get the tooth pulled, everything will be a "Federal Case"


Washington, D.C. – The nine Republican Senators who sent a letter today to President Barack Obama to express their opposition to a central part of his health care plan have benefited greatly from health care and insurance industry donations, a new analysis from Public Campaign Action Fund shows. The Senators have collectively taken $17.7 million from insurance and health care interests, according to data analyzed at the Center for Responsive Politics website, opensecrets.org. That amounts to nearly $2 million per Senator over their careers.
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http://www.campaignmoney.org/pressroom/2009/06/08/senators-who-signed-letter-opposing-public-health-plan-took-17-7-million-in-campaign-cash-from-health-care-


Republicans in the back pocket of the big insurance industry? Now that's a real shocker.....NOT!



People in Canada and England can go to ANY doctor or hospital. Unlike here in the US with insurance, it can sometimes be very hard to find ones that take certain insurance plans.. also, in-network doctors are increasingly forced to sign complex secret agreements "gag clauses" in which they give up the ability to recommend things like therapies that the insurance company doesn't like to pay for.


Only people who have dealt with these insurance companies realize just how aggressive they are about cost shifting and how badly that effects people's lives. You can go for years in a limbo, going to doctors but never getting better, because they wont approve the tests or treatments you need, just the bare minimum.. And they make you fight for that.


Don't let the Republican party sell us out to the Big Insurance Industry the way they already have with Big Oil!



CNN Poll: Americans OK with government run healthcare in return for lower health care costs:


WASHINGTON (CNN) – A new national poll indicates that most Americans are receptive to having more government influence over their health care in return for lower costs and more coverage.

Sixty-three percent of people questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey released Friday said they would favor an increase in the federal government's influence over their own health-care plans in an attempt to lower costs and provide coverage to more Americans; 36 percent were opposed.

The poll also suggests that slightly more than six out of 10 think the government should guarantee health care for all Americans, with 38 percent opposed.
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/29/cnn-poll-americans-ok-with-more-government-influence-in-return-for-lower-health-care-costs/



HEY REPUBLICANS, GO AHEAD AND BRING OUT ALL OF YOUR BIG GUNS TO OBSTRUCT HEALTHCARE REFORM, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THIS FIGHT JUST LIKE YOU'VE BEEN ON ALL THE OTHER FIGHTS THE LAST EIGHT YEARS!


Republican Corporate-Sponsored Patients United Now - an Insurance lobbying group funded with GOP dollars is trying to kill the national healthcare plan for middle-class and poor Americans:


"After orchestrating and funding the so-called Tea Parties movement, Americans for Prosperity — a nationwide front group founded and funded by the right-wing polluter Koch Industries — is launching an ad campaign characterizing President Obama’s effort to reform the health care system as a government take-over that will ration care and care and deny treatments."


"Americans for Prosperity is notorious for its fake grassroots efforts, funneling millions of dollars into conservative campaigns designed to undermine Democratic initiatives. As Lee Fang put it, “AFP is a professional AstroTurf machine”


- Hosted ‘Drill Baby, Drill’ rallies around the country.


- Financed Joe the Plumber’s tour against the Employees’ Free Choice Act and other anti-EFCA rallies.


- Started NoStimulus.com, “a grassroots website that we hope will be a focal point for the widespread frustration ordinary Americans feel at the runaway government growth that we see during good economic times and bad.”


"Now, operating under the name Patients United Now, Americans for Prosperity — which is mostly funded by large multinational corporations — is masquerading as an organic grassroots movement outraged over the Presidents health care proposals"


"The effort provides cover or ‘grassroots clout’ for conservative politicians and activists to oppose the President’s health care initiative. But this collection of trumped-up charges, outright lies and complete fabrications makes little headway in critiquing the President’s actual proposal."


"Just like all other peddlers of the “government take-over” critique — Frank Luntz, Conservatives for Patients Rights, Betsy McCaughey, and Sally Pipes — the goal is to define Obama’s proposal in their terms rather than to engage in a debate about health care or offer real solutions to the crisis. As Frank Luntz admitted to the New York Times, “we don’t know what he is proposing".
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http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/05/27/pun/



Mark,

"...hjave or to choose a new dortor..." Have i become your typist?

I wonder if malpractice lawsuits against the insurance carrier (the gov't) would be allowed as it is now when an insurance company does not provide coverage for a condition? You talk about deep pockets. This is John Edwards' wet dream.

For an economic analysis of this healthcare plan - go to a source that has economics at its roots

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124442772329993085.html


It's simple as to why the libers want government healthcare...that way they can perform euthanasia and abortions on the taxpayers dime, all while smoothing over their seared conscience


"People in Canada and England can go to ANY doctor or hospital."


Sure they can, as long as they don't mind waiting 9 months for an appointment and two years for needed surgeries. Piece o' cake.


Maybe they can pay for this like the republicans paid for Iraq war......oil revenues.


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Posted by: bill r. | June 9, 2009 11:23 AM
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That’s funny, bill. The Republicans didn’t pay for the War in Iraq from oil revenues. The cost of that war is still sitting on the national credit card and reflected in the debt. We will not reduce deficit spending enough to pay for the proposed health care system from our withdrawal from Iraq (whenever that takes place). We won’t even be able to pay for it if we undo Bush’s so-called “tax cuts” by re-imposing the higher marginal tax rates. The federal government simply can’t pay for all the junk for which it’s racking up bills without continuing its practice of deficit spending and adding to the debt. That doesn’t bode well for a large scale spending program run by a government with a significant history of fiscal irresponsibility.


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