Smoking regulation arrives today

Oh, I love that moronic mantra: Tobacco doesn't kill !! People do !! Will the Party of No, please go to the back of the classroom and stand in the corner, where all dunces belong !! Please, for our nations sake, get some new writers, performers and, of course, some new, viable, ideas. The old ones, just don't hack it, anymore !! Do yourselves, and our nation, a big favor and get on board the next democratic express: Healthcare reform train, with a public option that will prompt the Insurance Corps to be more responsive to the needs of the people, not their greedy needs !! That train is set to make all stops, across our great nation and to provide healthcare, affordable and thorough, for all of America, not just those with jobs, or wealth !! To deny healthcare for the citizens of America, is as horrendous an act, as we have perpetrated against the people of Iraq and the many thousands of our own, women and men in uniform, who have died, in the name of Corporate Greed, in Iraq !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

How could Americans be opposed to saving the lives of their fellow citizens?

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Guess we as a nation learned nothing from prohibition.

Don,

Please move to another country that wholly supports the notion of liberalism. The party of "no" sees right through the horse hockey.

Wonder if the regulations are another ploy for political donations?

I'm so glad my cigarettes will finally be FDA approved!

Comparing this to prohibition is idiotic. Prohibition didn't work because it wasn't surgical; it was a categorical restriction on something never before restricted at all, for stupid reasons.

This legislation targets exactly what needs to stop- marketing of severely unhealthy products to minors. If there were sweet vodka drinks sold by cartoon characters, everyone would see the danger in that. Joe Camel and "Snus" is no better.

Most importantly, please quit. I smoked a pack a day for 10 years, and quit cold turkey, 100% 6 months ago. It's not as hard as you think it will be. If you can completely extricate tobacco from every situation you're in, you can change your life and be smoke-free. It's a shame we tell people it's so hard. When you do it right, and educate yourself, it's not.

I'm really proud of congress and our Pres for getting this done. It's the right thing to do.

The regulation does not ban cigarettes. It is not prohibition at all. The FDA will limit the amount of additives that are allowed in cigarettes and modify the labeling.

When Big Tobacco discovered that they were losing smokers, they responded by increasing marketing and pumping cigarettes full of nicotine. These are highly toxic, habit-forming chemicals that were added to cigarettes. As drugs, they should be under the umbrella of the FDA and regulated.

The numbers are in and tabulated. YOU WIN !!! Tell us about the fabulous prize lovely Lelah. RIGHT BINK, You win a life time supply of fresh air.

It's 2009 people, wake up. All the smart people have quit smoking.

Big brother is watching..and watching...and regulating. Obama...get out of big business and try running the country instead. If you haven't seen you have put this country in a bigger mess. And Don...quit drinking the koolaid already. You rant like a fool always.

I was a pack-a-day smoker for 40 years, and on April 12 of this year, quit cold turkey.

To all current smokers: I agree with JeffRob above that quitting is "not as hard as you think it will be." Also, something that I've noticed since I quit is that people who smoke STINK! You have no idea how bad you smell!

To all current non-smokers: Probably the most annoying thing you can tell a smoker is that smoking is bad for them. They know it. It's best simply to MYOB.

Good luck to any and all who are trying to quit smoking!

JeffRob: "Most importantly, please quit. I smoked a pack a day for 10 years, and quit cold turkey, 100% 6 months ago."

How about this: please shut up. I don't care if you quit; it has no bearing or impact on my life. How about this for an idea: you live your life and not worry about how other people live theirs.

I'm not even proud of you for quitting...mainly because I don't care about you, or what you do, so long as it doesn't impact me.

You can't get any more liberal than that.

Oh, and if I quit, who is going to pay the taxes for services that everyone wants, but nobody wants to pay for? If you can't saddle your irresponsibility on the backs of smokers, you will have to pay for it. And given all the whining about the income tax increase, it's clear that most people don't want to pay their fair share.

On another note, since the FDA allows other deadly designer drugs to be marketed on t.v., does this mean that we'll once again be able to see t.v. spots for cigarettes? I mean, if they can market that deadly Abilify drug, certainly cigarettes should be given consideration too.

What this amounts to is just another waste of taxpayer money. That's all it is.

John: "You win a life time supply of fresh air. "

Wow....some people will believe anything if it's wrapped in a shiny enough package.

I have a bridge to sell you, John. It's got a beautiful view. Hey, obviously, you can be deluded into seeing whatever you want to believe.

Don I am one of those "old ones" (59) you refer to.. I can and do work and think circles around the "young ones" who are either hung over or high..
Here are a few thing your parents should have but apparently did not teach you,,
You are NOT owed because YOU exist,
Maybe it's time youngsters realize that things they THINK they though of like living green is what we did as a way of life.. You and the rest of the young ones could LEARN from the old ones if you quit whining..
Think of this all those nice things you enjoy in your life.. was it YOUR generation who thought of them? If you have such distaste for the OLD ONES let's see you get along without them..
Health care for everyone is a nice thing however, only IF they pay for it themselves.. that goes from those on welfare to the President..

Lets see how well the government has done so far where is the money paid into the system for Social Security?.. People paid into it for all their working years and the money is GONE replaced by IOU's .. do YOU really THINK it will be ANY different with the health care they are proposing?
As for taking the unneeded chemicals out of tobacco out OK and next they can take the alcohol out of the booze and it would than be grape juice which is much healthier too.. However I think in that case they should take the unneeded chemicals out of ALL food (I am all for that) quit nuking our fresh foods so we can ALL be healthier.. and sugar natural,artificial sweeteners chemicals.. got it?
The young ones would be much better served if they FIRST learned how to take care of themselves.. it is NOT your neighbors job..
Have the "young ones" by the way noticed.. first the size of your representatives 9 out of 10 of them are OBESE, DRINK like fish this is a fact.. and we the tax payers are paying millions for their health and the health care of ALL the federal, and state employees.. top of the heap health care at that.. think that is fair? Think of the savings if they were told to pay for their own health care like we do..
So get some life experiences , quit drooling when the President speaks and start THINKING..
Also remember one day God willing you will be an "old one" too..

Yes indeed...stay out of our lives. If I want to live in the "love canal" why should you stop me. All GOP should join me.

I think that giving control of tobacco to a group of people that are currently trying to ban Cheerios cereal as a drug is crazy! They are likely to do something stupid like ban healthier options for smokers such as light flavored cigarettes, smokeless products, and electronic cigarettes (for more information on electronic cigarettes visit www.invisismoke.com)

Guess we as a nation learned nothing from prohibition.

Don,

Please move to another country that wholly supports the notion of liberalism. The party of "no" sees right through the horse hockey.

Posted by: Don Sullivan | June 22, 2009 9:54 AM

You're a moron. Try "Reading for Dummies". No one banned tobacco. It is being regulated.

In the style of Brucie, I want to point out how Mark Silva neglected to mention that Rep. Steve Buyer of Indiana, who stupidly says that "smoking tobacco is no worse than smoking lettuce", is a REPUBLICAN!

I think that giving control of tobacco to a group of people that are currently trying to ban Cheerios cereal as a drug is crazy!
Posted by: nerdovision | June 22, 2009 11:41 AM

It doesn't really surprise me that some don't understand the issue correctly and rather parrot talking points spoon fed them by their political pavlov leaders. Rather actually taking the time to understand the whole issue, it is easier to regergitate misleading spin. A cereal company making false claims about their product is not really any different than the political party they are affilliated with making false claims about Iraq, the economy, and just about anything else that comes from their mouth pieces.

Wow, look at all the smokers who puffed for 30 years and then quit 4 months ago and suddenly want to tell everyone else how to live. Seems very common among ex-smokers. Very similar to OBAMA, WHO IS A SMOKER himself. Is this any different then all those anti-gay republicans who are secretly gay or pro-family politicians who cheat on their wives? For the record, I am NOT a smoker and never have been but enough of everybody trying to tell others what's best for them. I doubt you live your life in a perfectly healthy and moral way 100% of the time. You live your life and let everybody else live theirs.

I want to blow poisonous chemicals into the face iof everyone who makes the "My smoking isn't any one elses problem." arguement. Your addiction increases my chances of cancer and other diseases. Go lock yourself in airtight closet to smoke, but keep your second hand poison to yourself.

The government wants to lower nicotine so people buy more cigarettes at $10 bucks a pack..

This has NOTHING to do with safety, if it did they would just ban smoking.

You anti-smokers are really fools, your gullible morons if you think this bill is catered to you.

Its all about the $$$$$$

"quit nuking our fresh foods so we can ALL be healthier.. and sugar natural,artificial sweeteners chemicals.."

Now, this is a health plan I can get behind.

"Most importantly, please quit. I smoked a pack a day for 10 years, and quit cold turkey, 100% 6 months ago."

ROFL That's not quitting yet, that is merely stopping. You haven't quit until you've made it a few years. At some point you'll crack and you'll be back. Noob.

I smoked 3 packs a day for over thirty years. I quit cold-turkey by using the quadruple heart bypass method about 12 years ago. I STILL want a cigarette, but have not had one since. What I never understood is that no matter how bad cigarette smoking is for the smoker (forget about second-hand smoke), I could never understand why the growing of tobacco and the manufacturing and sale of cigarettes is not banned entirely.

Actually, I do know why cigarettes still exist. It is because of the might $$$$ and the pockets of politicians that really have no incentive to ban it. Their campaigns require the money and it is so easy to add yet anotehr tax on cigarettes.

How about this, if you are welfare of one sort or another, and you smoke, you will not qualify for the Obama dead beat health plan.

Come on! If you really need this additional regulation to figure out that smoking will hurt/kill you...then you are helpless and are probably going to walk in front of a bus pretty soon. It's been obvious for DECADES that smoking is deadly. We already have smoking bans...this is an enormous waste of time and resources.

And I've never smoked, in 36 years of my life.

More freedom AND education are the ways to a better life (must have BOTH). Not forceful regulation.

GOVERNMENT GET OUT OF OUR LIVES!.

"Comparing this to prohibition is idiotic. Prohibition didn't work because it wasn't surgical; it was a categorical restriction on something never before restricted at all, for stupid reasons."

Surgical or not prohibitions reach was government telling the people they were limiting their freedom. In that case it's alcohol in this it's tobacco. You a liberal, I don't suspect you'd understand until your rights are limited. Even then I'm sure you'd gladly accept so long as you can achieve your utopia. When I sing coombaya it's sitting around a campfire with friends. I certainly wouldn't consider you a friend and I certainly don't accept your version.

"This legislation targets exactly what needs to stop- marketing of severely unhealthy products to minors. If there were sweet vodka drinks sold by cartoon characters, everyone would see the danger in that. Joe Camel and "Snus" is no better."

Strawman argument, I suspect you haven't been paying attention to the characters their using to sell alcohol products.

"Most importantly, please quit. I smoked a pack a day for 10 years, and quit cold turkey, 100% 6 months ago. It's not as hard as you think it will be. If you can completely extricate tobacco from every situation you're in, you can change your life and be smoke-free. It's a shame we tell people it's so hard. When you do it right, and educate yourself, it's not."

I don't smoke. Although you as an individual have no right to say how I should live my life. If you think you do, then I submit I have just as much rightto impose my views on you.

"I'm really proud of congress and our Pres for getting this done. It's the right thing to do."

It's cow bowing to group of individuals who wish to impose their view on others. That is not something to be proud of.

Disgusted,

"You're a moron. Try "Reading for Dummies".

Pot meet kettle.

Your inability to formulate a class structure and black market are created from such regulations show your limited ability to reason.

>I have a bridge to sell you, John. It's got a beautiful view. Hey, obviously, you can be deluded into seeing whatever you want to believe.

Posted by: Skeptic

Hey Skeptic, I smoked 2 packs a day for 30 years. I do know the difference.

As for this new law: You elected him. Hope you enjoy him because this is just the first of many yu are going to get.

We shouldn't regulate tobacco at all. Let everyone decide how to live their lives. If your child's Kindergarten teacher wants to chain smoke all day long in the classroom, who are you to restrict their freedom? If RJR wants to advertise cigarettes during Sponge Bob using cartoon characters, more power to them. Hooking the kids early will ensure future profits. Who could be against that? Commies and marxists that's who.

Come on! If you really need this additional regulation to figure out that smoking will hurt/kill you...then you are helpless
Posted by: John | June 22, 2009 1:39 PM

You miss the point of this bill. It isn't aimed at long time smokers, it's aimed at trying to stop children at starting. How is that so bad?

Hey Right *cough* winger *hack*,

NO ONE said what you argued for. Banning it in schools, airplaines, restaurants, etc. was a good thing. But what we have gotten to now is ridiculous. We are passing laws because people won't take steps to help themelves. Everyone is VERY aware of the risks and dangers of smoking. If you aren't you are living in a cave.

We don't need more law, more regulation here. We just need more people to make decisions for themselves. If you don't like those decisions - tough for you. They aren't smoking around you anymore - and that's all you can ask! You don't have the right to control people just because you don't like their choices. Otherwise, they have the right to control YOU, too! I sure don't want that kind of Big Brother society.

Jay wrote: "Wow, look at all the smokers who puffed for 30 years and then quit 4 months ago and suddenly want to tell everyone else how to live. Seems very common among ex-smokers. Very similar to OBAMA, WHO IS A SMOKER himself. Is this any different then all those anti-gay republicans who are secretly gay or pro-family politicians who cheat on their wives? For the record, I am NOT a smoker and never have been but enough of everybody trying to tell others what's best for them. I doubt you live your life in a perfectly healthy and moral way 100% of the time. You live your life and let everybody else live theirs.

Maybe you SHOULD smoke!
Man oh man! Why are you so miserable?!

>Jay wrote: "Wow, look at all the smokers who puffed for 30 years and then quit 4 months ago and suddenly want to tell everyone else how to live.
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I didn't quit 4 moths ago, I quit 12 years ago to set example for my kids. I realized how stupid it was. And how I was forcing others to breath my second hand smoke. That was the worst of it. They had no way to escape it except stay in their homes. Now the smokers can stay home.

Great googly moogly folks.....how self centered can we get? It isn't about you...the 30 year smoker...it isn't about you....the one who doesn't smoke, it isn't about you who smoked for 30 years then quit. If you smoke...smoke all you want....this bill isn't going to change, it's about keeping teenagers or younger from starting. What in the world is wrong with that? It isn't about your "freedoms", it concern for our childrens health. Smoke em if you got em.....but good lord at least see the bigger picture other than it's all about you!

I smoke clove cigarettes. After reading what the bill does, I'm pretty sure my cigarettes will now be banned.

Look at this stuff pragmatically. More smokers=more Social Security later on for those us who don't smoke. Just like more abortions now=less liberals in the future. Let people decide their own lives.

Why pick soley on the tobacco companies? fast food, hydrogenated oils, processed foods, corn syrup and the like are dangerous as well.

I am not one for governmental intervention on anything, but if they are going to do it--do it across the board. Don't just pick on smokers.

Why are representatives from North Carolina concerned about the FDA messing up on this? Who is going to notice if a smoker gets sick or dies from smoking? You smokers drop like flies every day.

It is about time that the most dangerous consumer product designed to be injested into the body is regulated.

"It isn't about you...the 30 year smoker...it isn't about you....the one who doesn't smoke, it isn't about you who smoked for 30 years then quit. If you smoke...smoke all you want....this bill isn't going to change, it's about keeping teenagers or younger from starting. What in the world is wrong with that?"

It's good to hear the government is more efficient at teaching your kids responsibility. Since your more inept than they, when will your kids enroll with DCFS?

Just like more abortions now=less liberals in the future. Let people decide their own lives.

Posted by: ABC123 | June 22, 2009 4:29 PM

Cute! Pro life huh? Letting people decide their own life seems a little funny coming from you.

Funny. Having alleigiance to neither major political party, I've always considered the liberal Democrats to be the "Party of 'No!'"
Whatever you want to do, there's legislation to ban or restrict it. "If it moves, regulate it; if it doesn't move, regulate it anyway."

Can people smoke? "No!" Can people own guns? "No!" Can people use DDT? "No!" Diazinon? "No!" Can people have plastic wrap that actually keeps food from spoiling? "No!" Can anyone go about his or her daily business without some sort of government interference? "No!"

Why pick soley on the tobacco companies? fast food, hydrogenated oils, processed foods, corn syrup and the like are dangerous as well.

I am not one for governmental intervention on anything, but if they are going to do it--do it across the board. Don't just pick on smokers.

Posted by: jxk | June 22, 2009 4:31 PM

They aren't solely picking on tobacco companies. The things you name already do come under the supervision of the Food and Drug Administration. They have been required to disclose their ingredients and additives for years now, the tobacco industry has not.

It's good to hear the government is more efficient at teaching your kids responsibility. Since your more inept than they, when will your kids enroll with DCFS?

Posted by: Don Sullivan | June 22, 2009 4:38 PM

Yes a little help never hurts. I've read your other post and it seems you probably don't have any trouble with the kids as you must just call them morons and alls well. My kids? Doing well! thanks for your concern smart ass. Your's must still be young as people who are grown up know they could use all the help raising kids they can get. Might want to check to make sure they aren't catching a smoke out behind your back. I'll pose the question one more time since it seems you are a little thick.....what is wrong with help keeping teenagers from starting smoking? If you would like to answer in person I would be glad to meet.

Ps Don Sullivan....should we turn Palin in also? Loser!

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