House healthcare deal ready for panel

All Republican elected officials should opt out of their tax payer funded federal health insurance coverage (like Wingnutty Texas Gov Rick Perry who wants to secede from health care reform) if they are so against "socialized medicine". After all, we don't want the government to come between them and their doctors, do we? Let them put their words into action for once and prove just how true to their words they really are.

What's that?

Not one of the Repub blowhards stepped forward to give up their tax payer funded federal health insurance?

Didn't think it would happen. Lily-livered-bigmouth Repulican liars who don't give a damn about poor and middle-class Americans. What's good for them should also be good for the rest of the country, especially since it is taxpayer money that pays for it all. So, all Americans should have the same coverage as their elected officials have seen fit to provide for themselves from the public coffers. What's fair is fair.

PS: Public option, Public option, Public option!!! Now more than ever. And there are no substitutes! No Coops. No triggers. No alternatives. There are no substitutes!

Republicans are right about healthcare in America. Who cares if some people don't have access to healthcare?!?!

We don't need to concern ourselves with that. Poor and Middle-Class people simply do not matter. Forget about them.

We should only be concerned about what is best for the wealthy business owner. If 15% of the population don't have health insurance it only makes things better for the wealthy old Republican white guys, that's a small price to pay. I'm sure Rush Limbaugh is with me in saying that if the number of uninsured went up to 30% or even 50% that simply is nothing any of us should be bothered by. It is, in fact probably a goal we pasty white Republican rich guys should be working toward. Why should your employer pay for you to have health insurance? The big business CEO's would do better if they didn't, and that's all that matters. I'm sure those guys, like me, have demanded that their employer terminate their health insurance coverage, for the good of the company. We must all join with them in our sacred goal: healthcare for the few white rich guys, sacrifice for everyone else.

You know the opponents of health-care reform for poor and middle-class Americans -- which obviously includes nearly every talking head who appears on Faux News -- are getting desperate when they start trying to scare elderly people by suggesting that President Obama's health-care plans will mean euthanization for old folks when they get hurt.

That's what the lunatic fringe crew at Faux & Friends on Monday morning did, led by "Faux News legal analyst" Peter Johnson Jr., and aided and abetted by Brian Kilmeade and Gretchen Carlson.
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http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2009/07/fox-friends-crew-frighten-elderly.html

Since the Saint Ronnie Raygun Revolution, the GOP hasn't been about governance, it's been about transferring as much public wealth as possible to a few private hands. They've succeeded beyond their wildest dreams in making a handful of people exceedingly wealthy, but they've also shown the American people that their politcal philosophy is utterly bankrupt. And 2006 and 2008 proved that the American people get that.

On healthcare, Democrats shouldn't enable a Republican party that has been so abjectly repudiated by the American people, a Republican party that has proven time and time again that it is utterly incapable of governing because it has absolutely no interest in governing - screw them.

I simply don't understand the rush. If it's worth doing at all it should be worth doing well. And doesn't it drive anyone else nuts that Congress will be exempt from these changes. If its good for us why isn't good for them??

We need a single payer program, not more taxpayer money for the private sector. It is as simple as that. If those Democrats and Republicans don't get the picture, shown them the door !! The private sector has bled our Treasury dry and not many people are going to jail for it, either !! President Obama should veto any healthcare bills that do not include a single payer program, for those, that choose to go that way !!!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Folks are sick and they don't have insurance or enough out of pocket money to pay for treatment. What's unforntunate, they're disenfranchised and don't vote.
They have no voice. Unlike the very big voice of the insurance and pharmaceutical companies. We need to advance as the superior species we are and get the profit out of healthcare. Period.

"We have agreed we need to pull together," Waxman (D-Calif.) said today.

Oh that's great! NOW they figure out this is what they are supposed to do? This is very convenient the day before they all take off for a month of vacation..oh I forgot, they are so downtrodden they really don't get vacation, they have to go home and speak to the people who put them into office. How many of them really do that?

How can Waxman's committee vote on an incomplete proposal? I, and many others, agree with Dave's sentiment that if it is worth doing, let's do it well. The rush to push this through leads me to believe there are numerous parts of the proposed bill that would not be acceptable to the majority of voters, and the proponents want to push it through before those parts are disclosed or properly duscussed.

No shocker here (unfortunately); the Blue Dogs (as well as the GOP) are in bed with the healthcare industry, bringing us the best government money can buy:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32231857/ns/politics-washington_post/

Given that the federal Constitution is silent about public healthcare, the 10th A. automatically reserves government power to regulate and lay taxes for healthcare to the states, not the Oval Office and Congress. The problem is that US citizens have been voting lawmakers to both the state legislatures and the federal Senate who are not doing their jobs to protect state sovereignty.

Billions of Health Care Dollars Down the Drain

Bloomberg has a story asserting that the "U.S. Pays $2.5 Trillion for Care Costing $912 Billion" that should be the debate changer in the Senate Finance Committee, since they're all about, you know, finance.

"July 28 (Bloomberg) -- The last time a president tried to overhaul U.S. health care, Americans were spending $912 billion on the system and 40 million were uninsured. Today they’re spending $2.5 trillion and almost 50 million lack coverage....
Health-insurance premiums for families have risen 119 percent since 1999, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation, a Menlo Park, California-based policy-research firm. Inflation has risen 28.5 percent over that period, according to the Labor Department.
Premium costs are projected to rise another 9 percent next year, an increase that 42 percent of employers plan to pass on to their workers, according to a report last month by PricewaterhouseCoopers. That’s likely to further squeeze millions of Americans who find themselves in high-deductible insurance plans as wages stagnate because of the recession....
Health-care spending will account for 20 percent of U.S. gross domestic product in 2018, or $1 in $5 spent, compared with 16 percent of GDP, $1 of $6 spent, in 2008."
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aFRY..TvUM2M

Even Wal-Mart supports a massive overhaul, as the article notes. In fact, Wal-Mart is more progressive than Max Baucus when it comes to reform. His proposed legislation won't even have an employer mandate, a provision Wal-Mart has lobbied for.

The Republican Finance bill, the one that Baucus has apparently been letting Wingnut clown Chuck Grassley write, might score under a trillion with the CBO. In fact, it's likely to, since former Kent Conrad staffer and current CBO chief Doug Elmendorfer has been in on the negotiations (giving Conrad two seats at the table). But the nibbling around the edges of insurance reform and setting up experimental co-ops that can't compete won't do a damned thing to curb the costs of having 50 million uninsured. And without effective competition, it likely won't do anything to curb the obscene rate of growth in premiums and the obscene profits of insurers.

Current Health Insurance is a Biblical Harlot riding on Americans. nobody can afford it, and then you have to buy Afflack from Harlot too. When you get sick they cancel Insurance, and 1,600,000 Americans get bancropted by Harlot every year. Behind Harlot standing Republican Party, and they share profits. So now is a time for Insurance for All Americans!!!

B. Johnson: please refrain from presenting arguments that refer to constitutional issues; that makes my head hurt. :) However, it could be argued that, somehow, the Interstate Commerce clause would authorize Congressional intrusion into this issue. Having just had this thought on reading your comment, I need to go take some aspirin before fully flushing out this theorem.

forty one percent Americans are disapproval for health care.

All we need to know about this Democract bill was starkly revealed by Mr. Hacksman, the chairman..."No,I reject that members of Congress be compelled to have this coverage". Not good enough for them, you bet your a**, not good for us. Get the facts, the Prez. is being disingenuous (just one example; "you can keep your plan, if you like it", except the plan will be forced to change, under newly established, yet to be announced, Obama chosen guidelines, to a gov't qualified plan within 5yrs,, so your existing plan will not be there to keep! or explain how, as Medicare enrollment will rise by 1/3, as boomers retire, that they expect to "wring out" 500 billion in savings?...either by gutting our coverage or rationing, that's how!). Get the facts, the demonizing blame game is on, no one is too blame, because a " pig with Democract lipstick" is still a pig".

This is how much the republican care about you America...from 1993:December 2, 1993 - Leading conservative operative William Kristol privately circulates a strategy document to Republicans in Congress. Kristol writes that congressional Republicans should work to "kill" -- not amend -- the Clinton plan because it presents a real danger to the Republican future: Its passage will give the Democrats a lock on the crucial middle-class vote and revive the reputation of the party. Nearly a full year before Republicans will unite behind the "Contract With America," Kristol has provided the rationale and the steel for them to achieve their aims of winning control of Congress and becoming America's majority party. Killing health care will serve both ends. The timing of the memo dovetails with a growing private consensus among Republicans that all-out opposition to the Clinton plan is in their best political interest. Until the memo surfaces, most opponents prefer behind-the-scenes warfare largely shielded from public view. The boldness of Kristol's strategy signals a new turn in the battle. Not only is it politically acceptable to criticize the Clinton plan on policy grounds, it is also politically advantageous. By the end of 1993, blocking reform poses little risk as the public becomes increasingly fearful of what it has heard about the Clinton plan.

You people that think that by passing this "health care" bill congress is giving you something. I am a middle class business owner and will be affected adversely by this bill. The government has no business mandating health care, providing health care or managing health care. Why dont you people realize these two important facts: 1) Nothing is free to you or anyone and 2) Hard work and education are the only way for you to increase your quality of life. If you cant get out of the mind set that government needs to give you everything, you will continue to not have anything...including quality health care.

bubba Porter are you getting your stuff from Glenn Beck? The "demonizing blame game" would be the lying insurance company lobbyists spending millions to obscure the truth. "Democrat lipstick?" Read before sending, bubba.