by Mark Silva and updated at 8:30 pm EDT
Attempting to focus Americans on a promise of better healthcare for all and insurance for those without it, President Barack Obama used a prime-time televised news conference tonight to rebut the most searing criticism for his initiative.
He also demanded action "this year,'' apparently relaxing a summer deadline that he had set for Congress.
His reforms will not result in government-run healthcare, the president said, they will not place bureaucrats between patients and their physicians and they will not drive the federal budget deficit higher.
It is Congress, however, which Obama must convince of the urgency to enact the reforms that he is seeking. And, while the president attempts to rally public support, he still faces a challenge of convincing even conservative members of his own party that his reforms will not burden small businesses and let bureaucrats control healthcare.
Obama was asked if he has told congressional negotiators what he considers an acceptable cost for all of this.
"What I've said is that there may be a number of different ways to raise money,'' said Obama, who proposes limiting tax deductions for the wealthiest Americans. "I continue to think my idea is the best one, but I am not foreclosing some of these other ideas as the committees are working them through.''
Republicans were unrelenting in their criticism.
"No matter how you slice it, or who the president tries to blame, he is forcing Americans into a government-run plan with a $1.6 trillion co-pay that results in higher taxes and greater debt,'' said Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.), ranking Republican on the House Ways and Means Committee. "Instead of spending more on health care, as the president proposes, we need to focus on reducing the costs of health care.''
The news conference - carried live from the East Room of the White House by broadcast and cable television networks - capped a week of personal appeals through the media by a president attempting to step up pressure on Congress to act on healthcare this year.
"This is not just about the 47 million Americans who have no health insurance at all,'' the president said. "Reform is about every American who has ever feared that they may lose their coverage if they become too sick, or lose their job, or change their job.''
If the rising cost of healthcare cannot be contained, he said, the nation "will not be able to control our deficit'' and the premiums and costs that the insured pay for coverage "will continue to skyrocket.''
For people who already have insurance, the president said, any reform would provide "more security and more stability.''
People would have the option of keeping their private insurance, and insurers would be barred from dropping the ill, he maintained. People who changed jobs, or lost them, would be able to keep coverage through a transition. Preventative care would be covered.
The government will be kept "out of healthcare decisions,'' the president said -- directly answering a criticism that, by offering people the option of a public plan, he wants government run healthcare.
And any plan enacted, he promised, would not add to a federal budget deficit that already is approaching $2 trillion - "and I mean it.''
Obama also addressed the contention of some Republicans that, if they can "put the brakes'' on his healthcare reform, they will be able to regain traction for the GOP in next year's congressional elections.
"I understand how easy it is for this town to become consumed in the game of politics - to turn every issue into a running tally of who's up and who's down,'' the president said.
"Let me be clear: This isn't about me,'' Obama said. "This debate is about the letters I read when I sit in the Oval Office every day, and the stories I hear at town hall meetings...
"They are counting on us to get this done,'' he said. "And we can't let them down.''
Comments
After his 633rd tv appearance, Obama claims "this" is "not about me."
Uh, Mr. Obama, when you spend more time on tv than you do reading the bill you're touting, you're making it about you.
Posted by: Dissent is Patriotic | July 22, 2009 6:25 PM
Republicon Jim Demint's recent comments show exactly how self serving and shallow the average right-wing politician is.
Most of us already knew this but it sure was nice of Demint to bleet it out in public and remind everyone exactly what the goons on the right are all about - themselves and their rich pals.
Thanks Jimmy Deminted, see ya at the healthcare signing ceremony!
Posted by: Teresa | July 22, 2009 6:43 PM
Republican Congressman who oppose universal health insurance should immediately relinquish their federal health insurance. After all, these members of Congress have long enjoyed taxpayer-subsidized health insurance, a privilege that they apparently believe tens of millions of working, uninsured Americans and their families don't deserve.
If Republicans don't think being uninsured is a big deal, then they should go right ahead and try it out. And if they really believe a public plan is such a bad option, maybe they can persuade their parents to give up Medicare too.
Posted by: DrainYou | July 22, 2009 6:44 PM
> 44,230 more people are losing health coverage each week.
> 191,670 more people are losing health coverage each month.
> 2.3 million more people are losing health coverage each year
Republicans know that a successful health care reform that achieves universal coverage will bury them electorally for a generation. Health Insurers and their Lobbyists and Big Pharma know that a powerful public option and a Medicare bargaining for prices will kick them off the gravy train permanently. Republicans and Big Insurance Company propagandists know their scare tactics aren't nearly as scary as reality for the large majority of Americans.
Posted by: Republicans hate Blue Collar Workers | July 22, 2009 6:47 PM
Our health care system is disintegrating. Today, 46 million people have no health insurance and even more are underinsured with high deductibles and co-payments. At a time when 60 million people, including many with insurance, do not have access to a medical home, more than 18,000 Americans die every year from preventable illnesses because they do not get to the doctor when they should. This is six times the number who died at the tragedy of 9/11 - but this occurs every year.
In the midst of this horrendous lack of coverage, the U.S. spends far more per capita on health care than any other nation - and health care costs continue to soar. At $2.4 trillion dollars, and 18 percent of our GDP, the skyrocketing cost of health care in this country is unsustainable both from a personal and macro-economic perspective.
It always makes me laugh when I hear people say they want to preserve "insurance choice" in this country. What choice do you have when you work and are nominally "insured," but your insurance coverage doesn't pay for anything you need? Are you then going to have the ability to run out and purchase extra coverage on the wages you make? Well, I guess you have the "choice" to rob a bank or maybe win the lottery to pay for it, but that's about it.
Republicans and their rich oligarchy supporters (Healthcare CEO's and Lobbyists) will do anything to kill a good healthcare bill because they know people will like it and when that happens their electoral goose will be cooked for generations - if it's not already.
Posted by: Giles | July 22, 2009 7:13 PM
Obama's Health Reform in Jeopardy? Don't You Believe it
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It's a Slam Dunk, and Here's Why
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Although it may appear that corporate medicine's opposition is strong enough to kill health care reform, I would argue that Obama's health reform is now a slam dunk inevitability. Not only that, Obama's public health plan will mean the end of the health insurance industry. And, I say good riddance to this bloated evil empire....
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read more here:
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http://jeffreydach.com/2009/06/30/obamas-health-reform-a-slam-dunk-inevitable-by-jeffrey-dach-md.aspx
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Jeffrey Dach MD
Posted by: Jeffrey Dach MD | July 22, 2009 7:16 PM
Republican Corporate-Sponsored "Patients United Now" - A Big Insurance Industry Lobbying Group, Funded With GOP Dollars, Is Trying To Kill The National Healthcare Plan For Poor And Middle-Class Americans:
After orchestrating and funding the so-called "Tea Parties" movement, "Americans for Prosperity" — a nationwide front group founded and funded by the right-wing polluter Koch Industries — is launching an ad campaign characterizing President Obama’s effort to reform the health care system as a government take-over that will ration care and care and deny treatments.
"Americans for Prosperity" is notorious for its fake Republican grassroots efforts, funneling millions of dollars into conservative campaigns designed to undermine public initiatives. As Lee Fang put it, “AFP is a professional Republican AstroTurf machine”:
~ They Hosted ‘Drill Baby, Drill’ rallies around the country.
~ They Financed Joe the Plumber’s tour against the Employees’ Free Choice Act and other anti-EFCA rallies.
~ They Started NoStimulus.com, “a grassroots website that we hope will be a focal point for the widespread frustration ordinary Americans feel at the runaway government growth that we see during good economic times and bad.”
Now, they're operating under the name "Patients United Now, Americans for Prosperity", (which is mostly funded by large multinational corporations) and they're masquerading as an organic grassroots movement pretending to be "outraged" over the Presidents health care proposals.
The effort provides cover or ‘grassroots clout’ for conservative politicians and activists to oppose the President’s health care initiative. But this collection of trumped-up charges, outright lies and complete fabrications makes little headway in critiquing the President’s actual proposal." Just like all other peddlers of the “government take-over” critique — Frank Luntz, Conservatives for Patients Rights, Betsy McCaughey, Rick Scott and Sally Pipes — the goal is to define Obama’s proposal in their terms rather than to engage in a debate about health care or offer real solutions to the crisis. As Frank Luntz admitted to the New York Times, “we don’t know what he is proposing".
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http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/05/27/pun/
Posted by: Jimi Jagger | July 22, 2009 7:19 PM
Ask yourself this:
If your employer announced that you were going to be laid off tomorrow because of the economy, and that if you wanted to continue your insurance coverage by COBRA, it would cost of $915 a month (the average cost), how long would you be able to keep yourself and your family covered? Nationally, COBRA coverage costs around 83% of the average unemployment benefit....and that's just fine with the angry old rich white guys who make up the Republican party, but the rest of us here in the real world can't afford it.
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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09010/940941-28.stm
The insurance crisis could be your problem, tomorrow, through no fault of your own, as it has for millions of hard working americans in the last few months.
Posted by: xena | July 22, 2009 7:22 PM
Tonight's speech will be a success if it leads to a 3-4 point bump for Obama's health care approval rating. We'll find out in a week or two.
http://www.political-buzz.com/
Posted by: matt | July 22, 2009 7:25 PM
Your right, check one up for Barack!
According to published reported more than 90% percent have coverage or are happy with their own personal coverage. If only 7 to 10 percent are in need of assistance, then we do not need the massive healthcare you are pushing. In addition to that clean up the judicial system and stop allowing them to grant outlandish settlements. The juries are handing out hugh payments that are sometimes unwarranted. Why not standardize the process of handling claims, and lowering the insurance doctors have to pay. And last but not least clean up the corruption and the cheating, its costing everyone in this country.
Posted by: Paul | July 22, 2009 7:51 PM
We all remember the commercials that were made by Republicans and their pals at the Big Insurance Industry to trick Americans into thinking that health care reform would hurt average working families. We now see what has happened to the health-care system. CEOs rake in the big bucks from the huge profits they take in as health-insurance costs have skyrocketed.
FierceHealthcare reports the following top 10 CEO salaries for 2008:
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* Ron Williams - Aetna - Total Compensation: $24,300,112.
* H. Edward Hanway - CIGNA - Total Compensation: $12,236,740.
* Angela Braly - WellPoint - Total Compensation: $9,844,212.
* Dale Wolf - Coventry Health Care - Total Compensation: $9,047,469.
* Michael Neidorff - Centene - Total Compensation: $8,774,483.
* James Carlson - AMERIGROUP - Total Compensation: $5,292,546.
* Michael McCallister - Humana - Total Compensation: $4,764,309.
* Jay Gellert - Health Net - Total Compensation: $4,425,355.
* Richard Barasch - Universal American - Total Compensation: $3,503,702.
* Stephen Hemsley - UnitedHealth Group - Total Compensation: $3,241,042.
My rates go up and coverage goes down every time I turn around. And then they just decide not to cover certain medications without an explanation. Even scumbag criminals are resurfacing like Rick Scott to try and con America for a second time -- and the corporate media does nothing about it.
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http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/dont-let-third-way-ben-nelsons-or-repub
Posted by: John A | July 22, 2009 7:55 PM
Republicans are right about healthcare in America. Who cares if some people don't have access to healthcare?!?!
We don't need to concern ourselves with that. Poor and Middle-Class people simply do not matter. Forget about them.
We should only be concerned about what is best for the wealthy business owner. If 15% of the population don't have health insurance it only makes things better for the wealthy old Republican white guys, that's a small price to pay. I'm sure Rush Limbaugh is with me in saying that if the number of uninsured went up to 30% or even 50% that simply is nothing any of us should be bothered by. It is, in fact probably a goal we pasty white Republican rich guys should be working toward. Why should your employer pay for you to have health insurance? The big business CEO's would do better if they didn't, and that's all that matters. I'm sure those guys, like me, have demanded that their employer terminate their health insurance coverage, for the good of the company. We must all join with them in our sacred goal: healthcare for the few white rich guys, sacrifice for everyone else.
Posted by: Be a good little Republican - Sacrifice your life for a Health Insurance CEO | July 22, 2009 8:00 PM
After his 633rd tv appearance, Obama claims "this" is "not about me."
Uh, Mr. Obama, when you spend more time on tv than you do reading the bill you're touting, you're making it about you.
Posted by: Dissent is Patriotic | July 22, 2009 6:25 PM
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RNC Brucie,
How many times did we have to watch your hero Shlub Jr go on TV and lie about Iraq? 1000? 2000?
Elections have consequences you moron, the Republicons have been completely rejected by the American people and therefore can't win elections anymore.
Sit Down and Shut Up, you Loser!
Posted by: Be a good little Republican - Sacrifice your life for a Health Insurance CEO | July 22, 2009 8:06 PM
Corporate Media + Republican Talking Points = "Why The Rush On Healthcare"?
Idiots!!!
Posted by: civil war guy freeper | July 22, 2009 8:32 PM
Well I guess I dont need to say anything as th emajority of you here made my exact point! Where,s Terry, John and Terrie tonight? Oh, thats right, they're still looking for a ''Real'' birth cirtificate even though its been released and viewed a thousand times and proven to be authentic. MORONS
Posted by: Scot S. Blakeley | July 22, 2009 9:24 PM
"civil war guy freeper". Unfortunately brain dead liberals like you see nothing wrong with rushing through Trillion Dollar Pork laden Bills without even reading them. Only after they pass the Bill do we find out how pisspoor they are and how your kids and grandkids are on the hook paying for them. What do yolu care, most of you Obama suipporters don't pay taxes and live off the Government. Go back to sitting on the porch, drinking your cheap wine, and waiting for the postman to deliver your welfare check.
Posted by: Robert | July 22, 2009 10:38 PM
Though I'm a Democrat, I agree (along with quite a few other dems) with what Rep. Joe Pitts said on what is sneaked into this plan... "American taxpayers should not be forced to pay for abortion. Nor should they be forced to be unwitting participants as the abortion industry uses [the health care debate] to mainstream the destruction of human life into America's health care industry."
Posted by: Joe - actually a Democrat. | July 22, 2009 10:40 PM
Robert, grow up. It's about time you faced a few facts: Most Democrats work hard for the money and do not accept handouts or welfare. There is nothing wrong in establishing a national healthcare plan...we demanded it, in fact, when we elected Obama. And yes, he is the President now! The country needs such a plan...and I'm talking in particular about your kids and grandkids, who without a plan will not be able to afford future healthcare costs. Employers certainly won't shoulder the burden as they do now. If you're going to present the stereotype of democrats on welfare who merely sit around, should I assume you're a wealthy, aged 50+ Republican male who's worried his tax shelters will crumble?
Posted by: In favor of change | July 22, 2009 11:40 PM
Sure you are, Joe! That's like calling ex-Governor Fallin a states-person, which we all knew, Senator McCain was the states-person in that team.
You are entitled to call yourself whatever you wish to call yourself. We, Democrats, are a big enough tent to include those voters with divergent views, but we do ask for a modicum of honesty. To look at your post, I would surmise that you are more in line with the Republicans, with your anti-privacy view, when it comes to women's right to privacy. As for sneaking anything into any bill, either you have been misinformed, or you are misinforming us. I believe you to be doing the latter, which is unfortunate, because than, I must say, I think you aren't being honest with us. That's what Republicans do, when they can't present a reasonable alternative, they tend to lie and distort. So, maybe if you took the time to develop a sound argument, for your position, then maybe, you wouldn't have to stretch the truth. Why not try that, Joe, the next time you want to post something. Think it out before you have to distort and fabricate, then maybe more posters would agree with your position. It is called the art of persuasion. It is a valuable tool in a political debate, even more valuable then lying or distorting. Give it a try, sometime.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE.NOW.
Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, IL | July 22, 2009 11:52 PM
Obama is a phony.He is going down, thank you lord.
Posted by: morton mike | July 22, 2009 11:56 PM
Think about this... Set aside the opposition argument that the plan will destroy small business.
A BIG corporation decides that paying the 8+% penalty on payroll is cheaper than providing health care to its employees. It would be cheaper.
So, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people are forced to go to the government plan.
Think about how well the government has run the Postal Service and Amtrack...
Add it all together. BAD news for each and every one of you.
Form your opinions on facts and realities, and not some dream of an unachievable Utopian world.
Posted by: Mark B | July 23, 2009 12:14 AM
most of you Obama suipporters don't pay taxes and live off the Government. Go back to sitting on the porch, drinking your cheap wine, and waiting for the postman to deliver your welfare check.
Posted by: Robert | July 22, 2009 10:38 PM
Oh I see so what you're saying is that the majority of Americans dont work and collect welfare checks is that it? I mean, the majority of Americans voted for President Obama so is that what you're saying? Great, keep insulting everyone, that should lose you a few more seats come next election! MORON!
Posted by: Scot S. Blakeley | July 23, 2009 12:26 AM
There should be no rush on something so important. There should be no rush for signing this bill. We should all be able to read it, especially those that will vote on it. Let's not repeat what happened with the stimulus disaster that we will be paying for -for a very long time. Transparency. What happened Obama? Where is the transparency? Settle down and make some concessions. You can't have everything you want. Compromise. You work for us-listen to us.
Posted by: Eileen | July 23, 2009 12:54 AM
"No matter how you slice it,"
Some people do not know how to debate the subject, they only know how to repeat the party talking points.
Posted by: lochnesssmonster | July 23, 2009 7:14 AM
Sen DeMint has a good question, if the plan doesn't go into effect until 2013 (except the taxes start in 2011), why the rush. We have seen what happens when a bill is signed into law before analysis takes place - see the Stimulus. Flatliners, weren't you the ones that said Bush shouldn't rush into war with only a few of months of debate? Let the Congressman take this back to their districts and see what constituants have to say.
Xena,
For a long-time.
Trickled-On You,
If this gov't run healthcare passes, then let's have the President and his family and all members of Congress and all gov't employees go on this plan. If the care is supposed to better and cheaper, imagine the savings to the taxpayer.
John A,
You still do the math on the sums of those saleries and you still get the price of a candy bar for every American.
Scottie,
Sorry to disappoint - I had other priorities. Please show me proof where I have ever mad a big deal of BO's birth certificate. Once again, those pesky facts get in the way of your statements.
Posted by: Terry | July 23, 2009 8:12 AM
Please show me proof where I have ever mad a big deal of BO's birth certificate.
Posted by: Terry | July 23, 2009 8:12 AM
Oh please! Everyone here knows you're foaming at the mouth about it.
Posted by: Scot S. Blakeley | July 23, 2009 8:31 AM
Barack Obama will never -I repeat NEVER- say to your face what he actually plans to do or achieve with these huge new government programs.... like bankrupt the private health insurance industry. Everything's rolled-out in a trojan horse, and you're not allowed to look inside or ask any questions. Suffice to say, good-faith disclosure is simply not how this crew operates.
Rather, you get some calculating and specious oratory with styrofoam props to wow the plebes, like the tacky Greek columns in Denver. To him, the revolutionary ends justify the Alinskyite means- so the Dear Leader just tells you whatever he needs to, he knows what’s best for you anyway.
And the truth is that Obama is out to nationalize health care.. they’ll be no private insurance industry left after five years of Obamacare… but of course he’s lying about it.
As for the American public, the reality that Obama is dishonest and out-of-control seems to finally be setting-in; the poll numbers are now headed steadily south- is he already facing his Waterloo on this legislation?
Looks like it from where I'm standing...
http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com
Posted by: Reaganite Republican | July 23, 2009 10:19 AM
Scottie,
Once again - show the pesky little facts or you just like the little drones John E and FITZ - all blather and no substance?
Posted by: Terry | July 23, 2009 11:18 AM
There should be no rush on something so important. There should be no rush for signing this bill. We should all be able to read it, especially those that will vote on it. Let's not repeat what happened with the stimulus disaster that we will be paying for -for a very long time. Transparency. What happened Obama? Where is the transparency? Settle down and make some concessions. You can't have everything you want. Compromise. You work for us-listen to us.
Posted by: Eileen | July 23, 2009 12:54 AM
Great point as some members of Congress would not know what they are reading anyway, agree?
Posted by: Inky | July 23, 2009 12:31 PM
Republicans opposed Social Security, Medicaid, and Civil Rights. I'm proud when they oppose any cause I believe in.
Posted by: Paul | July 23, 2009 1:16 PM
Paul,
Go back and look at the voting records on the Civil Rights legislation and you will see a higher % of GOP voter for it than democrat. Those facts are pesky things.
As far as the SocSec and Medicare, you can have those two POnzi schemes
Posted by: Terry | July 23, 2009 2:40 PM
Go back and look at the voting records on the Civil Rights legislation and you will see a higher % of GOP voter for it than democrat. Those facts are pesky things.
As far as the SocSec and Medicare, you can have those two POnzi schemes
Posted by: Terry | July 23, 2009 2:40 PM
The 60's were 40 years ago man! My how your party has changed!!
I dare you to give up your SS and Medicare MORON, go ahead, you dont have to cash the checks or use Medicare if you dont want to. But somehow I doubt it very much that you would do this.
Posted by: Scot S. Blakeley | July 23, 2009 3:34 PM
As far as the SocSec and Medicare, you can have those two POnzi schemes
Posted by: Terry | July 23, 2009 2:40 PM
Terry, don't you wish Bush would have privatized Social Security like he wanted to, so that all our retirement money was in the Stock market. Think what great shape we'd all be in today if that would have happend.
Posted by: Another Republican fool | July 23, 2009 6:10 PM
Scottie,
And so has your party. It used to be led by supply-side tax cutters like JFK, Senators that were strong on defense like Scoop Jacchon and Sam Nunn - now its just a bunch of Saul Alinsky wannabes and blame America first crowd.
As far as Medicare and SocSec, I will cash my checks (assuming they are still paying out when I get old enough), since I have paid into the funds for over 30 years - Soc Sec at the max rates. I just have to have Algore give me the key to my lockbox.
Still looking for where I complained about BO's birth certificate?
Posted by: Terry | July 23, 2009 7:24 PM
Terrie give it up already. You're problem and the rest of you wing nuts is looking in the past bla bla bla, You guys did a great job of messing it up thats for sure. As for Al Gore, Hmmm seems the administartion he worked in did wuite a good job one of the best in history to be exact. Oh but wait Newt was running the ship right? Whatever. You bore me now go back to your hole and cross your fingers you nut cases get back into power. Oh and good luck with that!
Posted by: Scot S. Blakeley | July 23, 2009 10:42 PM
In case you didn't know, this so-called Health Care bill gives the government the 'right' to terminate the life of any child under the age of 2 who is, you know, an 'undesirable' which of course would also be determined by Big Bro. Show me one single conservative who would have such disregard for life. Only the almighty B.O. would be capable of such disregard for life itself. I wonder if the bill covers the anal surgery we will all need after he rams this one up as far as he can!
Posted by: Virginia | July 23, 2009 11:20 PM
Nevermind,
I wish SocSec was privatized from the start so that money I earned 30 years ago would have been invested in the market when teh Dow was at 1,000. Instead it was put into a generational ponzi scheme and I have nothing but an IOU from the gov't.
Posted by: Terry | July 24, 2009 7:23 AM
Scottie,
I'm glad you are finally starting to get it where the political credit for the 90's economy belongs - with Newt.
As for this recession, please tell me the Bush policy that created the recession. Aslo, how's that studying of the Phillips Curve. Never did hear back from you or the rest of the nerd patrol.
Posted by: Terry | July 24, 2009 4:01 PM
Scottie,
I'm glad you are finally starting to get it where the political credit for the 90's economy belongs - with Newt.
As for this recession, please tell me the Bush policy that created the recession. Aslo, how's that studying of the Phillips Curve. Never did hear back from you or the rest of the nerd patrol.
Posted by: Terry | July 24, 2009 4:04 PM
I'm glad you are finally starting to get it where the political credit for the 90's economy belongs - with Newt.
As for this recession, please tell me the Bush policy that created the recession. Aslo, how's that studying of the Phillips Curve. Never did hear back from you or the rest of the nerd patrol.
Posted by: Terry | July 24, 2009 4:04 PM
Talk about twisting reality Man you are a nut case!
As for your Phillips Curve theory, anyone who knows anything about it knows that there are pros and cons. Obvuously, as a wing nut, you chose to believe only one side of the story!
The historical problem with the Phillips curve is that policy makers thought that they could have a high inflation rate and get a low unemployment. The problem with this is that people adapt to any real inflation so that in the long run the unemployment is constant, and all you get is higher inflation, which leads to higher interest rates which could lead - when the fed finally steps in to squash the inflation - a recession. Which is EXACTLTY waht happened under BUSH!
You can not deny the FACT that he is listed histroically as the worst President as far as employment is concerned. There is no way around that.
Posted by: Scot S. Blakeley | July 24, 2009 9:56 PM
Health care is not a way of raise money.
Posted by: mdeals | July 25, 2009 3:35 AM
Scottie,
Nice cut and paste job on the Phillips curve. However, let's talk about your conclusion - so the FED caused the recession?
Show me that list of presidents.
Posted by: Terry | July 25, 2009 1:17 PM
Nice cut and paste job on the Phillips curve. However, let's talk about your conclusion - so the FED caused the recession?
Show me that list of presidents.
Posted by: Terry | July 25, 2009 1:17 PM
Thanks, I knew you'd like it but also knoew you'd disagree with it as usual when the facts are stairing you in the face you close your eyes. Funny how to you nutballs, Bush is NEVER responsible for anything!
As for ''That'' List well here you go MORON!
http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2009/01/19/daily7.html
http://usbudget.blogspot.com/2008/03/job-growth-under-bush-and-prior.html
There's plenty more to confirm the truth and facts but we all know here that you will find some other unreliable 'Curve' to disprove the facts. Oh and one more thing even FOX News posted a simular article but hey I figued you already saw it but then realized you were probably sleeping when it was written. Oh heck here it is:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,242424,00.html
Posted by: Scot S. Blakeley | July 25, 2009 1:45 PM
Scottie,
Llike I mentioned before, job growth is hard to achieve when unemployment is at historic lows. - now that you have cut and paste the Phillips Curve, try comprehending it.
Explain, is it the FEDS fault for the recession or Bush's?
Posted by: Terry | July 26, 2009 4:01 PM