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by Mark Silva
The Obama healthcare reform offensive took on all the characteristics of a campaign this week: On the road, rallying the base, turning up the volume.
"We have talked and talked and talked about fixing healthcare for decades, and we have finally reached a point where inaction is no longer an option,'' President Barack Obama declared in a stump-styled speech at a fundraiser for New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine that looked more like Obama's own campaign than Corzine's event.
A time has come, the president defiantly proclaimed in high campaign mode, "where the choice to defer reform is nothing more than a decision to defend the status quo, and I will not defend the status quo.''
Republican leaders in Congress, however, are just as defiantly warning that the president's campaign must reconcile the hard numbers of the Congressional Budget Office.
"Americans are concerned about the rising costs of health care, but instead of alleviating those fears, the Democrats government takeover will drive health care costs even higher,'' House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) said Thursday. " The director of the Congressional Budget Office today confirmed that the Democrats' government-run plan will make health care more costly than ever, making clear that one of the Democrats' chief talking points is pure fiction.
:Health care reform is too important to get wrong, and Americans deserve better solutions from Washington - ones that help lower health care costs instead of driving them even higher, as the Democrats' government takeover doe,'' Boehner said. "Democrats should scrap their plan that will drive costs even higher and work with Republicans on real solutions to make health care more affordable."









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Universal Healthcare has too many directions, White House , Congress and The Poor voter for sure at the present stage.
Posted by: Inky | July 17, 2009 9:37 AM
Ahhh, a failing president campaigning for a failed governor: Barack Obumbles and Jon Corzine, two peas from the same pod. Two incompetents. One is ruining a state, the other is ruining the country.
Posted by: John D | July 17, 2009 9:38 AM
Another thousand page, trillion dollar, earmark laden bill nobody--including Obama--has read. And the Democrats are forcing a vote on it, so that no one will have a chance to read it.
It has become status quo in Washington to pass bills nobody has read. And Barack Obama promotes that status quo.
Posted by: Bruce | July 17, 2009 9:43 AM
It is awfully regrettable, he, Boehner, wasn't as concerned about the misleading, and outright lying, that the Bush&Cheney regime perpetrated against our nation, concerning the War and Occupation of Iraq, among many other issues. Instead, he was handing out packs of cigarettes on the House floor; ever The lobbyist, par excellence !!
Now, he is on a mission to deny Americans the right to fair, affordable and meaningful healthcare. Instead, he champions the Health-scare Industry, the cash cow, for many politicians, including many Republicans !! I will say this concerning real healthcare in America, if there isn't reform, the Republicans can say good-bye to Washington D.C., for at least, several generations and that goes for Democratic incumbents, who fail to support President Obama and his initiative. President Obama's presidential victory will pale in comparison, to the results of the mid-term elections, with many changing faces, if America does not achieve real healthcare reform. America needs and demands real healthcare reform, not more of the rationed Health-scare, we now suffer at the hands of the Big Health-scare Industry !
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.
Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, IL | July 17, 2009 10:15 AM
Ahhh, a failing president campaigning for a failed governor: Barack Obumbles and Jon Corzine, two peas from the same pod. Two incompetents. One is ruining a state, the other is ruining the country.
Posted by: John D | July 17, 2009 9:38 AM
Wonder when the Media will wake up?
Posted by: Inky | July 17, 2009 10:17 AM
This guy will never, I repeat NEVER say to your face what he actually plans to do- instead you get some styrofoam facade... just like his tacky greek columns at the DNC. The revolutionary ends justify the Alinskyite means for this anti-American, two-bit Bolshevik scam artist.
So it's "heck yeah, you can keep your old insurance if you like it"- that is until Obama bankrupts the provider with his Federal soon-to-be monopoly with access to almost-free capital. Same as Cap-n-Tax, this is primarily a power-grab with a healthy dose of Soak-the-Evil-Rich, all under the cover of public benefit... just like he used to do it with Rezko back in Chi-town.
I am so sick of watching this kook take a wrecking-ball to the country we all love... and just because of Obama's lifelong hatred of America. Why should we all give-up the greatest nation in history... and to his warped "vision" because he had a bad childhood was raised by far-left freaks?
This Obamacare needs to be STOPPED COLD- it's a horrible bill.
http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com
Posted by: Reaganite Republican | July 17, 2009 10:47 AM
With the Republican smear-the-public-option campaign---designed by Wingnut mouth-breather Frank Luntz---in full swing, here's a handy, crystal-clear rebuttal you can print out and leave on windshields and utility poles (and even in emergency rooms!) across America:
5 THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA'S PUBLIC HEALTH INSURANCE OPTION
1. Choice, choice, choice. If the public health insurance option passes, Americans will be able to choose between their current insurance and a high-quality, government-run plan similar to Medicare. If you like your current care, you can keep it. If you don't—or don't have any—you can get the public insurance plan.
2. It will be high-quality coverage with a choice of doctors. Government-run plans have a track record of innovating to improve quality, because they're not just focused on short-term profits. And if you choose the public plan, you'll still get to choose your doctor and hospital.
3. We'll all save a bunch of money. The public health insurance option won't have to spend money on things like CEO bonuses, shareholder dividends, or excessive advertising, so it'll cost a lot less. Plus, the private plans will have to lower their rates and provide better value to compete, so people who keep their current insurance will save, too.
4. It will always be there for you and your family. A for-profit insurer can close, move out of the area, or just kick you off their insurance rolls. The public health insurance option will always be available to provide you with the health security you need.
5. And it's a key part of universal health care. No longer will sick people or folks in rural communities, or low-income Americans be forced to go without coverage. The public health insurance plan will be available and accessible to everyone. And for those struggling to make ends meet, the premiums will be subsidized by the government.
It might not hurt to give your senators a jingle and ask 'em which they embrace more: campaign contributions from the big insurance lobby and Frank Luntz's Republican propaganda, or historic legislation that will enhance their legacy and make them heroes among their constituents for improving the health and well-being of all Americans. Be patient---sadly, it could take some of 'em a while to decide.
Posted by: LoveBuzz | July 17, 2009 11:10 AM
101,000 Americans die UNNECESSARILY each year because of lack of access to basic medical care that they would get in most other industrialized nations.
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http://www.commonwealthfund.org/Content/Publications/In-the-Literature/2008/Jan/Measuring-the-Health-of-Nations--Updating-an-Earlier-Analysis.aspx
I keep asking my "Canada bashing" kool-aid drinking Wingnut friends to find me just ONE comprehensive poll in Canada showing that Canadians would swap their health care system, warts and all, for ours...Haven't seen any yet.
And believe me, if there were any polls favorable to the Republican cause of denying healthcare to everyone, the Republican minions would be linking to them all day long. Instead, all they have is a handfull of anecdotes that they got from Druggy Limbaugh and Glenn Beck etc.
Posted by: Mongo | July 17, 2009 11:16 AM
Republicans know that a successful health care reform that achieves universal coverage will bury them electorally for a generation. Health insurers and Big Pharma know that a powerful public option and a Medicare bargaining for prices will kick them off the gravy train permanently. Republicans and Big Insurance Company propagandists know their scare tactics aren't nearly as scary as reality for the large majority of Americans.
Posted by: caped crusader | July 17, 2009 11:18 AM
Interesting moral test of the merits of the health care bill that was passed by ways and means , ironically in the middle of last night...
Dems, in a party line vote, voted down a proposed amendment requiring congress to participate in the goverment plan---
So Obama care is good enough for the unwashed masses that actually have to pay for it- but not good enough for the elitists forcing it down our throats...??
In the meantime our MSM and the earnest journalists in most leading newspapers want to keep talking about Ensign , Sanford, Cheney and Michael Jackson...
Get ready everybody- your about to get this one without dinner or even a kiss..
Posted by: heartburn | July 17, 2009 11:35 AM
Obama's Health Reform in Jeopardy? Don't You Believe it
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It's a Slam Dunk, and Here's Why
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Although it may appear that corporate medicine's opposition is strong enough to kill health care reform, I would argue that Obama's health reform is now a slam dunk inevitability. Not only that, Obama's public health plan will mean the end of the health insurance industry. And, I say good riddance to this bloated evil empire....
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read more here:
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http://jeffreydach.com/2009/06/30/obamas-health-reform-a-slam-dunk-inevitable-by-jeffrey-dach-md.aspx
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Jeffrey Dach MD
Posted by: Jeffrey Dach MD | July 17, 2009 12:08 PM
Republican Corporate-Sponsored "Patients United Now" - A Big Insurance Industry Lobbying Group, Funded With GOP Dollars, Is Trying To Kill The National Healthcare Plan For Poor And Middle-Class Americans:
After orchestrating and funding the so-called "Tea Parties" movement, "Americans for Prosperity" — a nationwide front group founded and funded by the right-wing polluter Koch Industries — is launching an ad campaign characterizing President Obama’s effort to reform the health care system as a government take-over that will ration care and care and deny treatments.
"Americans for Prosperity" is notorious for its fake Republican grassroots efforts, funneling millions of dollars into conservative campaigns designed to undermine public initiatives. As Lee Fang put it, “AFP is a professional Republican AstroTurf machine”:
~ They Hosted ‘Drill Baby, Drill’ rallies around the country.
~ They Financed Joe the Plumber’s tour against the Employees’ Free Choice Act and other anti-EFCA rallies.
~ They Started NoStimulus.com, “a grassroots website that we hope will be a focal point for the widespread frustration ordinary Americans feel at the runaway government growth that we see during good economic times and bad.”
Now, they're operating under the name "Patients United Now, Americans for Prosperity", (which is mostly funded by large multinational corporations) and they're masquerading as an organic grassroots movement pretending to be "outraged" over the Presidents health care proposals.
The effort provides cover or ‘grassroots clout’ for conservative politicians and activists to oppose the President’s health care initiative. But this collection of trumped-up charges, outright lies and complete fabrications makes little headway in critiquing the President’s actual proposal." Just like all other peddlers of the “government take-over” critique — Frank Luntz, Conservatives for Patients Rights, Betsy McCaughey, Rick Scott and Sally Pipes — the goal is to define Obama’s proposal in their terms rather than to engage in a debate about health care or offer real solutions to the crisis. As Frank Luntz admitted to the New York Times, “we don’t know what he is proposing".
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http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/05/27/pun/
Posted by: Linda Mae | July 17, 2009 12:11 PM
I read the comments from this Fitzgerald guy from time to time. He really is a party hack in the way he supports BHO. Like is not black and white -- I am for heath care reform, but what is the big rush -- let us take our time and do it right. I lived in Canada for a number of years (about 20 years ago) and the care was pretty good. In talking with my friends up there now - they indicate that the level of care has fallen off a lot from where it was - why - it is costing too much.. just wait to see what happens with SSA and Medicare..
Posted by: JimR | July 17, 2009 12:16 PM
Ask yourself this:
If your employer announced that you were going to be laid off tomorrow because of the economy, and that if you wanted to continue your insurance coverage by COBRA, it would cost of $915 a month (the average cost), how long would you be able to keep yourself and your family covered? Nationally, COBRA coverage costs around 83% of the average unemployment benefit....and that's just fine with the angry old rich white guys who make up the Republican party, but the rest of us here in the real world can't afford it.
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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09010/940941-28.stm
The insurance crisis could be your problem, tomorrow, through no fault of your own, as it has for millions of hard working americans in the last few months.
Posted by: Republicans hate blue collar workers | July 17, 2009 12:17 PM
In case the health care reform provides the general public with peace of mind, the rising mental stress or illness caused by financial instability may bend the curve surprisingly,
in combination with kicking out the 'keep eating habit' to forget the deep-seated instability and apprehension, I guess.
'Work or Break' health system with no brake or safety system might be one of the biggest hidden causes of mental stress, obesity or overweight threatening the overall economy, I cautiously suppose.
Posted by: hsr0601 | July 17, 2009 12:19 PM
We all remember the commercials that were made by Republicans and their pals at the Big Insurance Industry to trick Americans into thinking that health care reform would hurt average working families. We now see what has happened to the health-care system. CEOs rake in the big bucks from the huge profits they take in as health-insurance costs have skyrocketed.
FierceHealthcare reports the following top 10 CEO salaries for 2008:
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* Ron Williams - Aetna - Total Compensation: $24,300,112.
* H. Edward Hanway - CIGNA - Total Compensation: $12,236,740.
* Angela Braly - WellPoint - Total Compensation: $9,844,212.
* Dale Wolf - Coventry Health Care - Total Compensation: $9,047,469.
* Michael Neidorff - Centene - Total Compensation: $8,774,483.
* James Carlson - AMERIGROUP - Total Compensation: $5,292,546.
* Michael McCallister - Humana - Total Compensation: $4,764,309.
* Jay Gellert - Health Net - Total Compensation: $4,425,355.
* Richard Barasch - Universal American - Total Compensation: $3,503,702.
* Stephen Hemsley - UnitedHealth Group - Total Compensation: $3,241,042.
My rates go up and coverage goes down every time I turn around. And then they just decide not to cover certain medications without an explanation. Even scumbag criminals are resurfacing like Rick Scott to try and con America for a second time -- and the corporate media does nothing about it.
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http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/dont-let-third-way-ben-nelsons-or-repub
Posted by: John A | July 17, 2009 12:20 PM
So Obama care is good enough for the unwashed masses that actually have to pay for it- but not good enough for the elitists forcing it down our throats...??
Posted by: heartburn | July 17, 2009 11:35 AM
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This clown, "heartburn", is right. He gets to the core of the issue. Who cares if some people don't have access to healthcare? We don't need to concern ourselves with that. Poor and Middle-Class people simply do not matter. Forget about them.
We should only be concerned about what is best for the wealthy business owner. If 15% of the population don't have health insurance it only makes things better for the wealthy old Republican white guys, that's a small price to pay. I'm sure "heartburn" is with me in saying that if the number of uninsured went up to 30% or even 50% that simply is nothing any of us should be bothered by. It is, in fact probably a goal we pastey white Republican rich guys should be working toward. Why should your employer pay for you to have health insurance? The big business CEO's would do better if they didn't, and that's all that matters. I'm sure those guys, like me, have demanded that their employer terminate their health insurance coverage, for the good of the company. We must all join with them in our sacred goal: healthcare for the few white rich guys, sacrifice for everyone else.
Posted by: Be a good little Republican - Sacrifice your life for a Health Insurance CEO | July 17, 2009 12:41 PM
Our health care system is disintegrating. Today, 46 million people have no health insurance and even more are underinsured with high deductibles and co-payments. At a time when 60 million people, including many with insurance, do not have access to a medical home, more than 18,000 Americans die every year from preventable illnesses because they do not get to the doctor when they should. This is six times the number who died at the tragedy of 9/11 - but this occurs every year.
In the midst of this horrendous lack of coverage, the U.S. spends far more per capita on health care than any other nation - and health care costs continue to soar. At $2.4 trillion dollars, and 18 percent of our GDP, the skyrocketing cost of health care in this country is unsustainable both from a personal and macro-economic perspective.
It always makes me laugh when I hear people say they want to preserve "insurance choice" in this country. What choice do you have when you work and are nominally "insured," but your insurance coverage doesn't pay for anything you need? Are you then going to have the ability to run out and purchase extra coverage on the wages you make? Well, I guess you have the "choice" to rob a bank or maybe win the lottery to pay for it, but that's about it.
Republicans and their rich oligarchy supporters (Healthcare CEO's and Lobbyists) will do anything to kill a good healthcare bill because they know people will like it and when that happens their electoral goose will be cooked for generations - if it's not already.
Posted by: out of africa | July 17, 2009 12:49 PM
Yes, by the look of these comments the Obama campaign seasons is in effect. (Hence why no one gives a rats ass about the issue. At some point you become jaded to the cut and paste same old lines bot spam.) Obama, YOU DONT HAVE TO SELL IT TO US. YOU'RE PRESIDENT, YOU CAN STOP GALVANIZING SUPPORT AND DO WHAT YOU PROMISED TO DO. You're gonna do what you want anyway. Unless, of course you don't believe in your promises either. No more talking. Do.
Posted by: there goes Africa... | July 17, 2009 2:02 PM
Heartburn, no one is forcing anything down your throat outside the fantasy world you live in. Nothing in the plan being discussed would force you to change your current health plan. You would have a choice, a legitimate choice decided by you, not your employer. I know making important decisions for yourself can be scary. I know you'd much rather let your boss make you decsions for you, but many people don't. Many people want a legitimate choice of health plans. There are brave people who would like to start their own business, but are being held back by the inability to get decent priced healthcare on their own. This plan would give those people an option. Many people don't want to be at the absolute mercy of what their company chooses to give them, orr not to give them. Apparently giving people that control frightens you greatly. But that's ok. They can chose to be good unquestioning corporate drones like you, who believe that what ever their company decides is always for the best.
Posted by: Mark | July 17, 2009 2:37 PM
This clown, "heartburn", is right. He gets to the core of the issue. Who cares if some people don't have access to healthcare? We don't need to concern ourselves with that. Poor and Middle-Class people simply do not matter. Forget about them.
Posted by: Be a good little Republican - Sacrifice your life for a Health Insurance CEO | July 17, 2009 12:41 PM
Read my post knucklehead-you missed my point entirely...
Couple of observations regarding your post-
-Your fixated on pastey (sic) white people -not sure what that is about but it is clearly a distraction for you…
-Given what I think you are trying to say in your post...doesn't it bother you in the least bit that congress people voting for this nonsense are not willing to sign up for the program themselves? Would you drive a car whose brakes your mechanic just fixed, but is unwilling to drive himself?
-Who doesn't have access to health care? Nobody can legally be denied medical attention in this country- the issue is that a small amount of people - (realistically about 10Million people, not the 47 Million the bug eyed health care crisis alarmists like to keep referring to) are able to get Health care INSURANCE for themselves...this is a big difference..
-Finally, - in your view we should turn the entire health care system on it's head, a system where most people are satisfied with their coverage- in order to provide coverage to 10 Million (3%)??.... wouldn't it make more sense to figure out what to do to help the 10 Million get coverage?
Posted by: heartburn | July 17, 2009 2:44 PM
Swamp Scoreboard
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Be a good little Republican - 1
Heartburn - 0
Posted by: sportscenter update | July 17, 2009 3:13 PM
Most people are unaware how similar the major corporate health insurers are to our failed Wall Street firms.They are corporate cash cows and have virtually no fiduciary responsibility and few activities for protecting or improving health or the health care system.They will devote their vast resources to prevent any meaningful health reform. They have controlled Congress (mostly Republicans) and the mainstream media. The only cure is vigorous popular support for a public option.
* The corporate insurance companies are out for profit and must work to maximize their value on the stock market and not our friends. They treat patients like widgets or cost centers. This is not a culture of trust, caring, compassion, and fiduciary responsibility. If you were dumb enough to hope that Countrywide Mortgage would preserve your home and Lehman Brothers would preserve your retirement fund, then you will be stupid enough to expect Anthem Blue Cross and the other insurance companies to be there to protect your health. Yet it seems all Washington continues under this delusion.
* The employer based private health insurance industry has been created by us, is hugely subsidized by public policy and public money and is expensive, inefficient, costly , and a structural barrier to a healthy America. It needs to be eliminated.
* The only cure for our problem is a strong public option national, universal, health financing program like Medicare for All. This is an efficient way to pool risk and share the unexpected costs of illness. Fifty percent of our population has virtually no medical expenses while five percent consume 25 percent of all personal medical care costs. This why we need the insurance principle: unexpected medical expenses are relatively rare and can be huge and should be spread across the whole population. Financial costs related to illness cause over 50 percent of personal bankruptcies in the United States. Over 46 million Americans are rationed out of the medical system (and during this economic catastrophe this number is growing by 10,000 people per day) 46 million people are subject to excess morbidity and mortality because they cannot afford financing and the insurance industry cannot profit from them. Health insurance is important and necessary. We need an efficient, national, publicaly sponsored, universal health financing system. This is the only treatment that will be a cure.
Posted by: Teresa | July 17, 2009 3:20 PM
Universal Healthcare has too many directions, White House , Congress and The Poor voter for sure at the present stage.
Posted by: Inky | July 17, 2009 9:37 AM
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It's not our fault that Wingnut cretins like you can't read or write.
Blame your home school teacher, Inky.
Posted by: B!!nky | July 17, 2009 3:24 PM
THIS IS IT!
The healthcare reform bill released by the House Of Representatives is an excellent bill as I understand it. It's a bill with a strong, robust, government-run public option, and an intelligent, reasonable initial funding plan to cover almost all of the American people. It is carefully written, and thoughtfully constructed, informed, prudent and wise. This bill will save trillions of dollars, and millions of your lives. It is also now supported by the AMA.
This is the type of bill that all Americans can feel good about. And this is the type of bill that has the potential to dramatically improve the quality of healthcare for all Americans. Rich, middle class and poor a like. Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and all other party affiliations. This bill has the potential to dramatically improve the quality of life of every American.
The house healthcare bill should be viewed as the minimum GOLD STANDARD by which all other proposed healthcare legislation should be judged. All supporters of true high quality healthcare reform should now place all your support behind this healthcare reform bill released by the United States House Of Representatives, as the minimum Gold standard for healthcare reform in America.
You should all now support this bill with all your might, and all of your unrelenting tenacity. This healthcare bill is a VERY, VERY GOOD! bill for all of the American people. Fight tooth, and nail for every bit of this bill if you have too. Be aggressive, creative, and relentless for this bill.
From this time forward, go BIGGER and DEEPER with the American people every day until passage of healthcare reform with a robust, government-run public option.
FIGHT!! like your life and the lives of your loved ones depends on it. BECAUSE IT DOES!
It should also be noted that Ron Wyden’s “Free Choice Proposal” in the senate is a highly intriguing proposal and possibly a brilliant idea. And an Idea that should be strongly looked into as a way of increasing consumer choice, and consumer access to a government-run public option.
SPREAD THE WORD
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSM8t_cLZgk&feature=player_embedded)
God Bless You
Jack Smith — Working Class
Posted by: jacksmith | July 17, 2009 3:28 PM
Heartburn, no one is forcing anything down your throat outside the fantasy world you live in. Nothing in the plan being discussed would force you to change your current health plan. You would have a choice, a legitimate choice decided by you, not your employer. I know making important decisions for yourself can be scary. I know you'd much rather let your boss make you decsions for you, but many people don't. Many people want a legitimate choice of health plans. There are brave people who would like to start their own business, but are being held back by the inability to get decent priced healthcare on their own. This plan would give those people an option. Many people don't want to be at the absolute mercy of what their company chooses to give them, orr not to give them. Apparently giving people that control frightens you greatly. But that's ok. They can chose to be good unquestioning corporate drones like you, who believe that what ever their company decides is always for the best.
Posted by: Mark | July 17, 2009 2:37 PM
Mark-Really? Apparently you haven't had time to read the 1000 pages in the bill. If you had spent time reading the bill- or at least doing some level of research- instead of repeating what you have been told you would uncover facts ...
So -did you read the bill- or do actual facts and thinking for yourself scare you--- ?
I have added a paragraph from the ACTUAL bill and a reference to the article it comes from in Investors Business Daily today...
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=332548165656854
"Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day" of the year the legislation becomes law.
from the article..."...So we can all keep our coverage, just as promised — with, of course, exceptions: Those who currently have private individual coverage won't be able to change it. Nor will those who leave a company to work for themselves be free to buy individual plans from private carriers. ..."
It looks like your reading skills equal that of the congress people actually voting on the bill... and you call me a drone?
Posted by: heartburn | July 17, 2009 3:34 PM
The taxes proposed to cover this bureacratic nightmare will put the US on average up there with some of the democratic socialist countries of Europe - right between Belgium and Germany.
The average highest incremental tax rate for the US will be 52.14%. Some states will be even higher, such as Oregan topping out at 57.54%.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124779717982855785.html
This is the tax that will be placed on this country's job creators. Do you think they are going to risk capital if for every $10,000 they make, they will be taxed $5,214. What' the incentive to work hard and then give half of it away to the gov't. They will pick-up shop and move off-shore or they will just retire on their riches. The cost of capital has just gone up and their economic growth has just gone down.
Remember flatliners, you never got a job from a poor person.
Posted by: Terry | July 17, 2009 5:43 PM
> 44,230 more people are losing health coverage each week.
> 191,670 more people are losing health coverage each month.
> 2.3 million more people are losing health coverage each year
Republicans know that a successful health care reform that achieves universal coverage will bury them electorally for a generation. Health Insurers and their Lobbyists and Big Pharma know that a powerful public option and a Medicare bargaining for prices will kick them off the gravy train permanently. Republicans and Big Insurance Company propagandists know their scare tactics aren't nearly as scary as reality for the large majority of Americans.
Posted by: burnheart | July 17, 2009 6:43 PM
Heartburn, Calm down buddy. Take a deep breath. Relax.
What that paragraph nrefers to is an enrollment period. I;'s common to most health care planns. The healthcare plan you have at work? It has an enrollment period. You can only change your coverage at certain times of the year. If , for example your plan offers both a PPO and an HMO option, and you want to switch between them, there are only a few times a year, or perhaps once a year that you can do that. It''s nothing to panic about. It's not some great conspiracy to get you. Perhaps it is best for you to let your employer make your decisions for you. You don't seem to be able to handle it yourself. Drone on, heartburn, drone on. It seems to be all you are capable of.
Posted by: Mark | July 17, 2009 9:50 PM
Remember flatliners, you never got a job from a poor person.
Posted by: Terry | July 17, 2009 5:43 PM
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It's not anyones fault but your own that you're an unemployable Wingnut sociopath. You've been that way for longer than just the last six months, you mental midget.
You shouldn't have dropped out of High School at the age of 15, Turdy.
Posted by: you | July 17, 2009 11:52 PM
Republican Congressman who oppose universal health insurance should immediately relinquish their federal health insurance. After all, these members of Congress have long enjoyed taxpayer-subsidized health insurance, a privilege that they apparently believe tens of millions of working, uninsured Americans and their families don't deserve.
If Republicans don't think being uninsured is a big deal, then they should go right ahead and try it out. And if they really believe a public plan is such a bad option, maybe they can persuade their parents to give up Medicare too.
Posted by: Molly | July 18, 2009 4:03 AM
Trickled-On You,
Been employed for 27 straight years since I have skills more than the deep fry machine. I've hired better than you and have fired better for you. Thanks for your concern, but you need to go watch your Saturday morning cartoons
Posted by: Terry | July 18, 2009 10:45 AM
Terry is right! You ignorant peons better toe the line or you'll be sorry! Do what we ant, and maybe we'll throw a few crumbs your way. Maybe we won't, but that's our business. This country exists for our benefit, not yours. Terry understands that. Terry is a good obedient peasant, who knows who his place, which is too obey his betters, like me. He is more than willing to sacrifice to make the lives of the rich better. He is willing to fight on my behalf against the poor and middle class. Terry is loyal to the plutocracy. He is loyal to his corporate overlords. He is loyal to the wealthy. He is a model american, we need more like him.
Oh By the way Terry, we're cutting your pay 10% and we're raising your portion of your healthcare cost 20%. We're sure you don't mind making that sacrifice so that we could keep our bonuses even though the company isn't doing too well this year.
Posted by: Terry's Corporate Executives | July 20, 2009 9:55 AM
Remember flatliners, you never got a job from a poor person.
Posted by: Terry | July 17, 2009 5:43 PM
Actually I have. It was one of the most rewarding and important jobs I ever had. I worked at a non-profit that made a huge impact in the lives of others. My boss didn't make much at all, none of us did, but we all did some really good things. I would be willing to bet we improved lives as much as anything you've ever done at work Terry.
We aren't all as greedy and materialistic as you Terry. We don't all worship money. Some of us actually have values other than wealth. You should try it sometime.
Posted by: Dorothy | July 20, 2009 10:50 AM
This spring, due to the demand decrease, the highest fuel price came down below $40 per barrel, though, the 'similar' insurance premiums still go on rising, which may imply that health care is not optional, but essential, and the inaction could bankrupt family, business, and government beyond this recession, as all across the board agree.
Earlier, the revised HELP BILL with the public option and employer mandatory has got a green light from the CBO, yet still, a new 'incomplete' analysis of emerging House legislation said it would increase deficits by $239 billion over a decade.
But, CBO does not score any savings from prevention / wellness and the rest, even as Prevention / Wellness is an actual and essential part of the savings, without which the reform would be meaningless.
And I think the other things such as increased productivity / consumer confidence, 'potential stem cell effect', 'decreased mental stress', and 'massive job creation', 'stock price effect' and etc considered, the reform might be within reach. Most importantly, a few years later, if the excessive war and military spending goes toward the health care program, the cost issue does not matter at all, I think.
Edward M. Kennedy argues, the perfect should not be the enemy of the good, "Everyone won't be satisfied and no one will get everything they want. But we need to come together, just as we've done in other great struggles in World War II and the Cold War, in passing the great civil-rights laws of the 1960s, and in daring to send a man to the moon. If we don't get every provision right, we can adjust and improve the program next year or in the years to come. What we can't afford is to wait another generation."
Thank You For Reading !
Posted by: hsr0601 | July 21, 2009 3:52 AM
This spring, due to the demand decrease, the highest fuel price came down below $40 per barrel, though, the 'similar' insurance premiums still go on rising, which may imply that health care is not optional, but essential, and the inaction could bankrupt family, business, and government beyond this recession, as all across the board agree.
Earlier, the revised HELP BILL with the public option and employer mandatory has got a green light from the CBO, yet still, a new 'incomplete' analysis of emerging House legislation said it would increase deficits by $239 billion over a decade.
But, CBO does not score any savings from prevention / wellness and the rest, even as Prevention / Wellness is an actual and essential part of the savings, without which the reform would be meaningless.
And I think the other things such as increased productivity / consumer confidence, 'potential stem cell effect', 'decreased mental stress', and 'massive job creation', 'stock price effect' and etc considered, the reform might be within reach. Most importantly, a few years later, if the excessive war and military spending goes toward the health care program, the cost issue does not matter at all, I think.
Edward M. Kennedy argues, the perfect should not be the enemy of the good, "Everyone won't be satisfied and no one will get everything they want. But we need to come together, just as we've done in other great struggles in World War II and the Cold War, in passing the great civil-rights laws of the 1960s, and in daring to send a man to the moon. If we don't get every provision right, we can adjust and improve the program next year or in the years to come. What we can't afford is to wait another generation."
Thank You For Reading !
Posted by: hsr0601 | July 21, 2009 3:52 AM
Corporate Executive,
My corporate executives value my services, so they compensate me accordingly - including health insurance.
This country does not exist to provide your every want and need. I don't remember that in my civics classes.
Obey my betters, like you. LMAO. Must be a busy executive posting on a blog mid-morning.
I rech an agreement with my employers - I provide services for them for a fair compensation. When my services no longer meet their needs, we can part ways. If I feels tehir compensation does not meet my market value, I can move on. Freedom and Liberty - that's what this country is about, not being a Nanny.
Dorthy,
Somewhere in the non-profit you work for are some wealthy benefactors making donations. Thus you job probably came from not a poor person, but from a rich person.
Posted by: Terry | July 21, 2009 8:00 PM