Kenyan birth certificates: Apply here

you gotta love who the republicans deam as qualified. First we have Orly Taitz. Not only is she a doctor, dentist, Real Estate agent, and used car salesman, she is also an expert in birthing matters. The we have Joe the plumber, who isn't really a plumber but is qualified to be a reporter in Israel and economy expert for the republican candidate for president. If you can shoot moose, step right up folks and get in line for VP candidate on the ticket. Shooting moose will out trump knowing what the Bush doctrine is anytime. Throw in a few trail (Appalachian) blazers to preach about family values and you have the complete range of republican experts. Oh did I forget the canned Rick Scott? Nothing like a little expert testimony on healthcare from a man thrown out of healthcare.

and for the spelling experts...that would be deem!

Its fashionable now to be born in Kenya..

There has never been a legitimate President of the United States. Article II section 1 plainly states, "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States." Now the Constitution was brought into effect in 1787; fourteen years previous was 1773, and there was obviously no such entity as the United States at that time, and nobody could have been a resident of it. It is also clear that there could only have been a few Presidents who could have been citizens at the time of adoption of the Constitution, plainly required by the text, and certainly none since the first third of the nineteenth century. It does, however, distinguish between Citizen of the United States, and natural born Citizen, so that anyone born into the State of Nature would be just as qualified as any Citizen of the United States, and the State of Nature certainly predates 1773. I know what I'm talking about here because I sleep with a copy of the Constitution under my pillow every night.

Geeeez....why are you loons so worried about the birth certificate thing now????

Oh, that's right...it's not a Republican issue, but an issue by a ""Democrat""" named Phillip Berg who's a very, very credible democrat attorney and deputy prosecuter.

Sorry..won't fly when you blame it someone else...you dems own this one ...and obama's not yet seen- (birth-certificate), only a certificate of birth.
Hmmmmmm??????

Paulo

NEWS FLASH: Obama says sky is blue. Right wingnuts claim Obama is wrong and this announcement is a plot by Obama and the liberal press to ruin the makers of green crayons and paints whose owners are primarily conservative and donate to conservative politicians. Furthermore the wingnuts announced that from now on, anyone dressed in shade of blue would be considered a liberal and a traitor and will turned in to the FBI.

This is as silly as those Dems who have how many independent recounts of the 2000 election still believe the outcome shouldn't have been.

it plays out the same on both sides.

Geeeez....why are you loons so worried about the birth certificate thing now????
Posted by: Paulo | August 6, 2009 2:23 AM

A bit of the pot calling the kettle black isn't it? Oops.....sorry.....I know how you feel about that color thing....right? Chicken joker.

You gotta love how Mark Silva spends hours and hours churning up the "birther" issue. It's what David Axelrod and the DNC would want him to do--shift the focus away from the corruption and the failed policies.

But wouldn't you expect a "journalist" (so Mr. Silva labels himself) to spend maybe one of those many hours in demanding that Pres. Obama authorize release of his Occidental College grades? His Columbia grades? His Harvard grades? His LSAT and SAT scores? And, yes, his actual birth certificate?

You know, spend as much time getting the facts, as he does denouncing those who demand such facts?

This issue will never come clean until Obama speaks our and proves beyond a doubt which he never will.

In response to Dave from Denver:
The passage you quote, when read with a bit of reading comprehension, obviously is making provision so that someone who is a citizen of a state in the newly created country could be qualified for president. As you point out, several presidents (the first 10 in fact) would not have qualified under the "natural born citizen" requirement. However, there were states already established at the time of the writing of the constitution, and a citizen of one of those states at the time of the writing of the constitution was deemed qualified for the presidency.

The state of Hawaii and its Republican governor looked at the records they have on file and confirmed that Obama's Certificate of Live Birth is legit and is the only document the state releases to those needing proof of citizenship.

The lunatics on the right have no way to dispute that, so they ignore the facts and continue to rant and scream.

A bigger concern than where he was born is where he did his early schooling. In his formative years, he was schooled not in an American school learnng U.S. history or civics but rather in Indonesia known for its anti-American attitudes, a country with heavy communist and Islamic influences. Whether that early schooling contributed to Obama's anti-Åmerica opinions is an open question but something caused him to apologize for everything American.

But if we click all heels, there will be no Republicans left. Who will replace guys like Steve Forbes and Balmy Army in disrupting Town Hall Meetings and other GOP slime-ball tactics? Oh well, there's aways the O'Reilly factor.

I still haven't gotten over the Republicans stealing the 1876 election from Tilden. Then again, I still haven't gotten over the Dodgers leaving Brooklyn.

He did, Inky. But no matter what he does, you'll have a doubt. So what good does it do. Better to let you guys make fools of yourselves.

Here's the thing...Obama is --not-- a --natural-- born citizen becuase both his parents were not US citizens at the time of his birth. He is a --native-- born citizen, i.e. born in the US, but that is only 50% of the requirement to be president. The rub is that private citizens do not have standing to challenge the legitimacy of a candidate, and to date all suits brought to court on the matter have been thrown out becuase either the courts didn't have jurisdiction or the petitioners didn't have standing. So we're stuck for now.

Bruce, you have details of corruption? I think you should call the FBI immediately! Don't withhold anything! Maybe you should state the facts here, because we know the FBI is under Obama's control! What facts do you have, we need to know! You don't have any "facts" do you? You just like to expel air! And where is your birth certificate Bruce? How do we know you're not some Chinese hacker trying to destroy the President of the United States of America? Maybe you're an anarchist, or fifth columnist trying to undermine the laws of the United States? Where is YOUR birth certificate, sir!

It took me about 20 minutes and $50 to get a copy of my own birth certificate. Not a live birth or anything, but the real deal.

You'd think after all this time and debate it would have been cheaper and more cost effective for him to do the same.

But he still hasn't. I'm just curious what his reason is for not doing it?

(if it were Bush failing to rpesent said document... well we all know how crazy that would be)

Earth to Bruce, his "actual" birth certificate?

I guess the fact that the state of Hawaii confirmed that Obama's is legit isn't enough, or that a Certificate of Live Birth is the ONLY document it releases?

By the way, governments don't release the "original" document of anything--otherwise they wouldn't have anything to keep on file.

Earth to Wally - Hawaii has recinded that -- they are making NO COMMENTS!!

Follow the Constitution of the United States - Obamation is an illegal upsurper hiding (his 'transparency is a black hole) behind lawyers - he is a public figure his 'history' is for the history books - not some made up fanasty from his drug induced past - He should be made to produce any and all documentation requested - he is suppose to be an elected official of the American people - representing the American people, upholding the Constitution of these United States of America - so far he has disregarded these parts and pushing us so far into socialism we look like Cuba right before Castro took over with his 'citizens army' - he was an organizer too!! LOL

Posted by: Johnnyweak | August 6, 2009 11:46 AM

Obama has produced the one and ONLY official birth certificate that the State of Hawaii provides. There is no other form. Any other document has NO official standing. That's the facts. Why can't you people understand that?

Erica, a country can't be both communist and Islamic, because communist regimes eliminate religion. And let us all hope that we learn a few things between early elementary school and the age of 48. Your assertion does not make common sense.

Erica, a country can't be both communist and Islamic, because communist regimes eliminate religion. And let us all hope that we learn a few things between early elementary school and the age of 48. Your assertion does not make common sense.

Idoits all around me....your right on. Lou... you don't get it, this is a document that was generated and does not look anything like the ones used 48 yrs ago and the same goes for his draft registration. How come all the school records are locked up. Did he enroll as a student from a foreign country? Hmmmm

Posted by: ray godfrey | August 6, 2009 2:47 PM

More ignorance. Don't you people ever learn anything?

Hawaii went to a paperless system for their birth documents in 2001. Since that time, ALL official requests for birth documents are computer generated, on the form that Obama has provided. The computer generated form is, again, the ONLY official document of birth in the State of Hawaii.

WHY obama DOESN'T SHOW HIS BIRTHcertificate ONCE 4 ALL????

FISHY??? I THINK SO, I STILL BELIEVING HE IS NOT BORN IN THE USA.

"WHY obama DOESN'T SHOW HIS BIRTHcertificate ONCE 4 ALL????"Posted by: Marcia Baracaldo

He did.
Now, how are those grammar classes coming along?

Mark, you should be proud of your posters. Following your lead, they spend hours in personal attacks, but not once demand Obama's grades, or demand any other document. Documents that any employer requires.

They're not only fact free themselves. They actively reject disclosing facts.

With that attitude, maybe they should apply for a job at the Tribune.

You guys keep it up--it's just a constant reminder why we should never vote Republican ever again.

I am not an expert on Hawaii's certificates of live birth. However, I do have real life experience in Chicago, IL. Several years ago, before anyone outside of Illinois ever heard of Mr. Obama, I was gathering documents for my family tree. My mother, who was alive at that time, did not have her own birth certificate, so I ordered one from Cook County. When I reviewed it, I noticed that the addresses on the certificate did not correspond to where she told me she was born, which was in her Grandmother's house on January 18, 1918. Then I noticed that the birth certificate was issued in 1942, not 1918. Looking further, it was a self reported birth certificate obtained by her father, my grandfather. My mother did not know anything about it. We speculated that because she was born in a house and not a hospital they never got a birth certificate. However, she was married in April 1942, and we further speculated that she had to have a birth certificate to receive a marriage certificate, so her father had to go down to Cook County and self report her birth, 24 years after the fact. We joked that Grandpa might have gotten the wrong date, or even the wrong year, since it was 24 years after the fact. In reality, he could have had the wrong state or even the wrong country. That being said, I do have a baptismal certificate indicating my mother was born on January 18, 1918 and baptized on January 27, 1918. So there is some support that January 18, 1918 was an accurate date.

My father’s birth certificate also has an interesting story. He always told us his name was John Edward, but that there were so many children name John in the neighborhood they all had nicknames, i.e., big Johnny, short Johnny, lame Johnny, dumb Johnny, etc. Therefore he was called by his middle name, i.e., Edward. He also never had a copy of his birth certificate. However, after he retired he decided to finish off his college education, which was interrupted because of the depression. He figured he had put five children through college, and it was time for him to get his college degree. He decided he would attend Chicago State and they required a birth certificate to register. My brother worked for Cook County at the time and asked a colleague in vital statistics to get a copy of my dad’s birth certificate. My brother gave the colleague my father’s name, date of birth, parents’ names, and the address where they lived at the time, which was July 13, 1914. The colleague called my brother and told him there was no record of a John Edward, although there was a John Vincent born the same day, with the same parents at the same address. My father was flabergasted. He had no idea. So for 66 years my father thought his birth name was John Edward and it was really John Vincent. Again a baptismal certificate was helpful. According to the baptismal certificate, he was baptized John Edward on July 27, 1914.

The point of this long winded story is that until Obama releases any collaborating documentation regarding his birth, I will be skeptical about what he is hiding. Why is he refusing to provide such documents as college transcripts, grades, and all other documents that might be pertinent? In fact, when running for office, why wouldn’t any candidate be required to release all historical documents of birth, religion, schooling, etc? When I was hired after graduating from college, the company required a copy of my degree and transcripts. As a lowly accountant making about $9,600 per year, I had to produce documents that verified the information I put on my job application. Why shouldn’t Obama do the same thing? Until he does so, this issue will continue until he is booted out of office in 2012.

Bruce, did you really have tyo give your college transcripts to get your job at the RNC? I have never had an employer request transcripts, and I am a professional with a masters degree.

"Earth to Wally - Hawaii has recinded that -- they are making NO COMMENTS!!"

Wow, try breaking the prozacs in half from now on.

You are LYING and making things up. The governor said it's legit and there has been no "rescinding" of that statement; well, not on this planet anyway, Maybe on yours where the sky is green and the earth is flat.

Why is it that when Obama entered the spotlight several years ago as A FRESHMAN senator, there were questions as to his "Kenyan birth to an American in Kenya" when all were saying he was a legal citizen because of that, why has this now changed to a Hawaiian birth record??? Maybe if a 48 y.o. birth record looked 48 years old it might be easier to believe, like the micro-fiche copy in Cook County of my birth records. Funny how there is no other records and now since riding Nobamas coat tails seems to be every liberals quest to prove they are.......?? I don't know, they are hoping for something better than we had. Maybe reallity should raise it's head and look these people to show the they might have elected the wrong guy too. That, will no doubt happen when it's way too late to reel in the ever growing deficit. When the piper comes to collect, I don't think they'll want to pay that price!

He did, Inky. But no matter what he does, you'll have a doubt. So what good does it do. Better to let you guys make fools of yourselves.
Posted by: gladys | August 6, 2009 11:07 AM
He did ?
Spend $800,000 to hide the birth?

Cross-reference the 'Orly Taitz' document with the 'Lucas Smith' birth certificate (See below.) and just wait for the experts in document forensics to speak.

Make sure you are looking at the actual 'original images released'. There are many people on the Internet playing games with these images. Ultimately, analysis of these documents will be performed on the actual paper originals and not photographs or scans.

Take a look at the latest Youtube video released on August 22, 2009:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkWd2INPhL4

If you follow enough of these websites, you'll keep coming across the same names - people that are apparently on Obama's or Acorn's payroll that do nothing all day but spread disinformation.

Seek out the truth! Under this mountain of deception and corruption lies the heart of clever Muslim using 'Taquiya' Trojan horse tactics and trying to run out the clock.

The American people's good nature and generosity of heart has been used against them - Just as predicted by a Russian leader so long ago.

It's not too late to take our country back. Stay positive. God bless America.