Summertime: 'Wee-weed' in Washington

The GOP is performing orchestrated outrage for their Big Health Insurance overlords. There's a script for this stuff that was written before these events even happened, written instructions showing GOPer minions how to shut down efforts at civic discourse at healthcare townhalls. The web site Think Progress obtained a leaked memo from a group that calls itself Right Principles. The three page memo details how these right-wing nutbag protesters should behave at town hall events.
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http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/rachel-maddow-gop-thugishness-town-halls-called
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Number 1 Liar on ObamaCare: Barack Obama.

"There's been a lot of misinformation," Obama said, complaining about people who are "bearing false witness."

He said the first thing he wanted to correct was the idea that the proposed overhaul would force some people into different health care plans. "If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan," he said, repeating one of his stock lines.

That's not true, however, according to FactCheck.org, an independent truth squad run by the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania.

"He can't make that promise to everyone," concluded FactCheck's analysis, one of several that point out that the Democrats' health care plan could lead to employers switching plans, and thus forcing their employees into different plans and perhaps to different doctors."

See drudge.com for more.

Some of the younger people among us might not be aware of this but the outrageous lies and fake outrage coming out of the mouths of Republican minions during a Democratic adminstration is nothing new. Republicans have been perfecting their Message of Hate for years.

This original flyer, one of about 5,000 distributed in downtown Dallas a day or two prior to the Kennedy assassination, was the creation of Right-Wing ideologue Robert Surrey, an associate of Major General Edwin Walker, Retired. Unknown persons placed these anti-Kennedy handbills on car windshields and tucked inside racks of the two Dallas daily newspapers.
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http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/wantedfortreason.htm
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According to the GOPer deather nutjobs, if Stephen Hawking had been born and raised in the UK, he would have been euthanized, the victim of Britain's National Health Service which would have deemed his life "worthless" because of his handicaps.
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http://www.americablog.com/2009/08/stephen-hawking-proud-american.html

There was only one problem with that Wingnut deather theory: Hawking was born and raised in the UK. Indeed, he is now fighting back, crediting NHS with saving his life.

"I owe my life to the NHS': Stephen Hawking tells US to stop attacking health service
Professor Stephen Hawking has defended the NHS after its severe criticism during the American political debate over health care reforms.
The physicist spoke up for the NHS after the Republican Right in America claimed it was 'evil' and 'Orwellian' in a direct attack on President Barack Obama's plans to overhaul health care in the U.S.
Critics of the president have said his plans would introduce a 'socialist' system like Britain's.
Prof Hawking, who suffers from Lou Gehrig's disease, said: 'I wouldn't be here today if it were not for the NHS.
'I have received a large amount of high quality treatment without which I would not have survived."
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1205953/NHS-branded-evil-Orwellian-high-level-US-politicians.html#ixzz0OGqrl0GM

I don't know what's more impressive about the Wingnut deather morons? The fact that they are willing to peddle such easily disprovable garbage with a straight face, or that they have managed to convince a few Democrats that they are worthy negotiating partners?

Three general guidelines for the healthcare debate:

First, whenever someone is spouting off about "communist fascism", you may ignore everything that person says from that point forward. Fascism and communism are two entirely different things, and a primary tenet of fascism is its opposition to communism. So if you think Obama is leading us to either fascist communism or communist fascism, you aren't only a paranoid, LaRouchian nut, you also don't even know what it is you're afraid of, and are just putting scary words together in the hope of stirring an emotional response among stupid people.

Second, you cannot be "against socialized medicine" and at the same time think Medicare is good. Medicare is, in no uncertain term, socialized medicine, and government run, and all of that very scary stuff. If the concept of "socialized medicine" outrages you, you are against Medicare. If you are for Medicare, then by definition there is some level of "socialized medicine" you are willing to accept, and at that point you are exactly where the entire rest of the country is, and we're merely arguing about the details.

All of the people who say that they are afraid of socialized medicine but that they support Medicare are liars. All of them. They either secretly don't support Medicare but are unwilling to say such an unpopular thing out loud, for obvious reasons, or they aren't in fact afraid of "socialized medicine" but still want to use the talking point.

This includes Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, and every Senate Republican, as well as the usual assembly of pundits and shouters and supposedly panic-stricken mobs crying in fear at town halls over the imminent Russianization of America if we undertake any meager healthcare reform whatsoever.

The third guideline: the first two guidelines are freaking obvious.

IT’S HARD TO SAY what’s more amusing, the wild-eyed Wingnutty rants from the mental midgets who make up what's left of the Republican base, at healthcare town hall meetings or the Republican leaderships attempts to portray those pre stoked, foaming at the mouth snarling sentiments as genuine mainstream anger about the president’s health care plans.

Put some of that Grassley into my pipe!

Also from fact check:In the sunny wrap-up to the ad, the narrator describes “the Republican plan”: “If you like what you have, you can keep it,” he says. “Access to an affordable basic coverage.” But there is no plan around which Republicans have coalesced. Back in May, some GOP lawmakers offered a bill that would have cut the tax deduction that employers get for offering their employees health insurance plans, and given workers tax credits instead. But there’s been little talk of the bill since then. And Missouri Republican Rep. Roy Blunt was tapped to head a GOP health care task force in February, which was charged “with crafting Republican solutions to increase Americans’ access to quality, affordable health care,” but which so far has produced no plan and seems unlikely to do so.

If people think the manufactured Right-Wing lunatic fringe hate is bad during the healthcare debate wait until we start debating Immigration reform.
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http://www.ilovehateamerica.com/.a/6a00e553aae600883301156f409123970c-800wi

Hey dummycrats!

Quit complaining, you have all the votes needed...all 60--remember?
Go ahead and pass your health-care reform...go ahead.
The American people are watching and waiting!

Paulo

wee-weed up? Is that Cook County speak for "pissed off" or is that a "Harvard" term? Will someone please put him back on teleprompter so he can make some sense.

Boy, you have to be really dumb to be a liberal and favor nationalizing health care.

"Insurance overlords"? How does that fit in with the big lie from Obama that "if you like your health insurance, you can keep it. Did you even stop to understand that health insurance profits take up about 1% of the total health care spending? So, how much savings, K, do you really expect to get out of that? Huh, Huh? Huh? There is little chance for anyone to complain at health care Tow Halls now since the representatives like Klein and Wexler are afraid of their constituents and only let union guys into the room. Then K references Crooks and Liars and Maddow. Sure, those are reliable sources. Rush probably says they are wrong, too. The memo Maddow references, but does not display, was written by Bob McGuffie. He has 3 "friends" on his web site and I believe, 5 followers on Twitter. Yeah that is some leadership. I just wonder how he got all those people on Medicare out to demonstrate. K is a fool.

Next we have "former Republican" (bet that is a lie) telling us about the "young". What he does not tell the young is that with the mandate, they will be forced to pay for everyone else's health insurance. The idea is the young and healthy (you know, the ones just starting out) are going to be expected to pay full price so the federal plan will have a source of young and healthy (read that, low cost) to fund all those others. The young don't know that yet because their support would fall off if Obama let that cat out of the bag. BTW, I lived in Dallas and I have never heard that story before nor is it in the Kennedy Museum (in the School Book Depository, been there?). So, Former_Republican, how is that little story at all germaine? You are the second fool on the hill.

Then "community arranger" (what, can't get a real job?) fills us in on Steven Hawking. Except that Hawking was born in 1942, before nationalized health care in 1948. But, Hawking was fortunate to achieve his fame before NICE got its claws into him. From time Magazine:

"Is it true that NHS bureaucrats put a price tag on life?
The short answer is yes. The NHS has a body called the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) that decides which new treatments and drugs the NHS should pay for. One of the factors NICE considers when deciding whether to approve funding for a new treatment or drug is cost-effectiveness. To determine the dividing line between what is cost-effective and what isn't, it must set a threshold. Taking its lead from Britain's Department of Transport — which has a cost-per-life-saved threshold for new road schemes of about $2.2 million per life, or about $45,000 per life year gained — NICE rarely approves a drug or treatment that costs more than $45,000 per life year gained. In short, NICE does not want the NHS to spend more than $45,000 to extend a citizen's life by one year."

So, if Hawking were born in 2000 and hadn't achieved his fame, how much care "community arranger" do you think he would get? What would happen after his $45K was exhausted? So, "community arranger" becomes fool number 3 on the hill by for totally misunderstanding his own claim.

The we get Kathy as fool number 4. She is unaware of just how Medicare operates. Maybe she doesn't get a paycheck, so she dooesn't know about Medicare. Medicare rides on the back of our current health care system. What it does do is heavily subsidize medical care for those over 65, but it does it by taxing those under 65. By no stretch of the imagination is Medicare socialized medicing. It is merely a transfer payment to the older generation. The second thing medicare does is underpay for the services forcing all the rest of us to overpay for the services. Then, too, Medicare in no way rations services as Canada and Britain do. If you are 100 and want a hip replacement, that is all well and good. Kathy, you are fool number 4, do you really expect any nationalized health care program would provide the unlimited services that Medicare does. The real problem is you think it will because you haven't stopped to even consider the question.

Why is it that those who most support nationalized health care have the least understanding of it. Oh wait, they are liberals. Understanding is not a part of their makeup.

Rick

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Hey dummycrats! Quit complaining, you have all the votes needed...all 60--remember?Go ahead and pass your health-care reform...go ahead.
The American people are watching and waiting!
Posted by: Paulo | August 20, 2009 6:49 PM
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Pablo,
The Dems don't need 60 votes, all they need is 51. That's the way Repug Saint Ronnie Raygun did it with his tax cuts for the rich and that's the way Repugs Shlub Jr and Darth did it with their tax cuts for the rich and many other things.

The Repugs view bi-partisanship as meaning "my way or the highway".

Screw'em, we don't need them.

Did he mean "whee-whaa'd up"?

That's an old, at least 19th century, American rural/midwest term.

Like, if you're hanging a picture, and the vibration , e.g., from some road grading equipment makes it not want to stay on the perpendicular, you might say, "That picture is all whee-whaa'd"....

That goes back a long ways...

He probably heard that from the grandparents (the Kansas grandparents).

Someone with the Oxford English Dictionary----help us out here......

O, my. O, my goodness.

The repuglitroll checkbooks are open again.

All those agents provocateurs who were laid off on Nov. 4 08 have found work again.

Fortunately, Barack is way ahead of y'all, as usual.

He's out on the airwaves answering questions directly from the public, flooding the airwaves.

It's hard to mount an effective whisper campaign against that force field, isn't it, trolls?

ADJ found out the kind of trouble just one speech at Cairo University could make for him in his little election, didn't he, trolls?

Your paymasters at Aetna and Columbia and Blue Cross must be shaking in their Gucci loafers.

The Liar-in-Chief uses a baby word! Once again Obumbles cannot speak intelligently unless the TelePrompter tells him what to say.
The misinformation is coming from Obimbo himself. First, it was health reform. Now the polling and test groups tell him to call it "health insurance reform."
Obimbo says grandma won't be killed. If costs are to be controlled, then you have to lower costs on those who spend the most on health care -- and that is grandma, grandpa and the sick. Healthy people don't cost much in health care. Sick people do. Common sense.

Gee Mr. President...that was awkward.

I can think of two associations. First, that last little piggy who cried wee wee wee all the way home. In this case it’s Obama who’s protesting, with good reason, as his poll numbers plummet and his agenda flounders. But it’s a rather odd presidential rallying cry. (The nursery rhyme, by the way, offers rich possibilities for satire with its references to the market, roast beef, and having none.)

The other meaning: wee wee is a term used by the recently (or not quite) potty-trained when it’s time to make a bee-line for the toilet.

Which ever it is, this Harvard trained "intellectual" sure knows how to turn a phrase.

How are those poll numbers of yours doing???

Funny how the Obama Youth Squad squaks and squeals about all opposing views as "orchestrated outrage".

Weekly emails and text messagaing from MoveOn and the other Obama Youth Squad delivery mechanisms, continue to rile up the faithful into blathering idiot's like little bill and big Don - hey - bring them home SAFE NOW.

No matter how many times you scream that Don, the president isn't listening. So, what's the murder - death - kill count today in Afghanistan adn Pakistan.

THANKS Rick Caird for setting these loonies straight!!! please keep up the good work.

"If freedom of speech is taken away the dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter." For some reason, freedom of speech doesn't count when the speech disagrees with democrats or liberals. Pelosi, Reid, Frank, and Obama are really showing the American people who they really are...GIANT EGOS and want to win at all cost. SCARY!

"If freedom of speech is taken away the dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter." For some reason, freedom of speech doesn't count when the speech disagrees with democrats or liberals. Pelosi, Reid, Frank, and Obama are really showing the American people who they really are...GIANT EGOS and want to win at all cost. SCARY!

Wee Wee'd? Maybe that explains the feeling Chris Matthews and the lib media get down their legs whenever BO speaks.

Donut,

He's just speaking to your level so you can understand him.

Yet another whopper from the MythMaker in Chief:

"Supporters of Obamacare continue to deny the undeniable — that illegal aliens will indeed receive taxpayer-funded subsidies under the existing drafts. Just yesterday, on Smerconish's show, the president said:

"This has been an example of just pure misinformation out there. None of the bills that have been voted on in Congress, and none of the proposals coming out of the White House propose giving coverage to illegal immigrants — none of them. That has never been on the table; nobody has discussed it. So everybody who is listening out there, when you start hearing that somehow this is all designed to provide health insurance to illegal immigrants, that is simply not true and has never been the case."

Well, that's not quite a lie because our silver-tongued attorney-in-chief is right that the bills are not "designed to provide health insurance to illegal immigrants," but they will do so nonetheless. As Jim Edwards and Jon Feere demonstrate in some detail, the supposed bar on illegal aliens getting subsidies is inadequate: The bar applies only to one section of the bill; there's no requirement that applicants' eligibility be verified, as is the case with other welfare programs; and the Democrats specifically rejected amendments to require verification." [NRO]

What he meant was that in August going into September in Washington, they smoke a wee bit of weed.

It is no exaggeration to say that millions of Americans' lives hang in the balance of this debate.

And you're talking about a possible mispronunciation of 'riled'.

Hey, I used to blog as well, sometimes it's tough to find a unique angle on a story.

Remember during the election, when everyone chastised the President, saying he should be more aggressive, respond more to ad hominem or blatantly false attacks upon him, his character, etc?
What happened then?
Millions of Americans walked streets, picked up phones, and quietly but furiously working to elect Barack Obama.

Organizing for America has sent over 64,000 volunteers to Congressional offices to share personal health care stories and express the desperate need for health insurance reform. We might not be screaming, misleading, threatening or getting the kind of press you get when you carry an automatic weapon to a Presidential event. However, we are quietly but furiously making a difference. Wait and see.

With respect,
Alex Brant-Zawadzki
Regional Communications Coordinator
Organizing for America