White House enemies' email-list? Nope

HA Ha Ha!!!

Where do the goofy Wingnuts come up with this stuff?!?!

First it was the Wingnut "Birthers", then it was the Wingnut "Deathers" and now it's the Wingnut "White House has an Enemies list"?!?!

It's no wonder the Republican is dying off, they've even got nutjobs like John Cornyn feeding the stupid.

Enemies List? Nope. It's just that Big Brother is displeased that some citizens have skipped out on their Groupthink classes, and have failed to bow down at his messianic altar. These poor misguided souls must be helped to get their addled minds right. How else can they get the needed help if He cannot identify them and dispatch the Thought Police?

The White House wants a record of "Fishy" statements on "health care"?

Fine. I'll email them the 1000-page text of the ObamaCare Bill. The one nobody, including the Community Organizer in Chief, has read. I'll also email the text of every speech Obama has made on the subject.

I look forward, with pride, to being on this president's "Enemies List."

Repug Cornyn is reaching new heights of hypocrisy by feigning concern for chilling the exercise of free speech rights when he supports the Corporate Sponsored Tea Baggers who are preventing such speech in local town hall meetings. Cornyn further embarrasses himself by saying that he would have also condemned the Bush White House should they have engaged in a similar invasion of privacy. Except that he did no such thing when he voted for warrantless wiretapping.

As it turns out, it is a good thing that the White House now has a facility for reporting the fishy assertions of fatuous Right-Wing Lunatic Fringe basement dwellers who have trouble with facts. Perhaps we should start by reporting the latest idiotic Wingnut claim that President Obama is "recruiting Nazi snitches".

Repug Congressmen like Cornyn being hypocrites and fear-mongers is par for the course nowadays.

This latest "fake outrage" from the Republicans is laughable, given all the abuses of civil liberties these dittoheads approved of during the 8 years of the Bush and Cheney reign of terror.

I thought Texass was going to leave the Union?? How's that project going?
Put that on the hurry up, for sure.
Please, shut up Cornholyn. We are tired of hearing from anit-American fascists like you.

This is one of the many reasons why Americans are leaving the Republican party in droves.

HEALTH INSURANCE LOBBY, CORPORATE SPONSORED TEA-BAGGERS THREATEN THE LIFE OF A DEM CONGRESSMAN OVER HEALTHCARE BILL:
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http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/dem-congressmans-office-his-life-has-been-threatened-over-health-care-bill.php?ref=fpblg
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Does the WH seriously expect anyone to believe that the WH wants to receive information and then they don't compile it? If the WH isn't compiling it, then they wouldn't have asked for it.

Just more manufactured outrage from the mindless far-right...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

"Corporate-Backed Republican Dopes in Action!"

Why are these Right Wing anti Health Care mobsters not wearing brown shirts? That's exactly how these Republican fascists are acting, a playbook straight out of the 1930's. And this latest batch of Pavlov's Republican dopes seem to be eating this crap up hook line and sinker.

An item from the Drudge Report - we won't see this in the Swamp.

http://www.rollcall.com/media/37552-1.html

Weren't CEO's taken to task for a similar situation last year?

Here's another item that didn't quite make the Swamp either

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124950747812708973.html

Didn't Speaker Dimwit Pelousy say something about this being the end of teh Culture of Corruption?

How To Recognize A Big Healthcare Lobby Corporate Sponsored Republican Liar When You See One At A Healthcare Townhall Meeting:

"Just because I don't have sophisticated language, I can recognize a liar when I see one."
--- Republican Liar, Don Jeror

Q: How do you tell if RNC spokespoodles are lying?

A: Their corporate tea-baggers puppeteer's lips are moving at a Healthcare Townhall meeting
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/04/durbin-schumer-town-hall_n_251077.html

I don't believe the right will find anything fishy. After all....they follow the leader who is against healthcare reform. Rick Scott. Anyone who would believe someone who bilked billions from American taxpayers with his healthcare fraud, and then have the B**ls to lead an effort to inform people about the "truth", certainly won't see "fishy".

So Wingnut Mouthbreather John Cornyn Is Suddenly Concerned About Privacy?

This from the guy (Cornyn) who cheerleaded for warrantless, domestic spying against American citizens by the National Security Agency? Now he's upset? Because the White House is asking people to let them know when they're being bombarded with bogus claims that Democrats want to kill senior citizens and all of the other "pure speech" the Republicans are spewing about health care reform? Comedy.
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http://www.issues2000.org/international/John_Cornyn_Homeland_Security.htm

Can Ya Smell the Fear? Fear and Loathing in D.C.?

“Fear is an emotional response to threats and danger. It is a basic survival mechanism occurring in response to a specific stimulus, such as pain or the threat of pain . . . Fear should be distinguished from the related emotional state of anxiety, which typically occurs without any external threat. Additionally, fear is related to the specific behaviors of escape and avoidance, whereas anxiety is the result of threats which are perceived to be uncontrollable or unavoidable:” Wikipedia.

Fear also triggers the age-old dilemma of whether to strike out or to hightail it to safer environs, the fight or flight option.

Congressional Dems evidently have chosen to strike out and fight on the Obamacare debacle, although their fighting methods are more akin to those of a 6 year old girl who chooses to strike back by screaming hysterical lies rather than directly confronting the opposition.

Wikipedia distinguishes between fear and anxiety but there really isn’t much difference with the Democrats on this issue: Their only external threat is truth and honesty and both terrify them. Admixed with a distinct loathing for conservative principles, it’s a potent combination.

I’ve seen videos of a number of those townhall-type meetings that reflected a genuine concern and, yes, outright disgust and deep angst on the part of the citizenry. The attendees, too, are fearful but not afflicted with baseless anxiety.

See a few relevant videos here http://bit.ly/2f8nAG, here http://bit.ly/194wyZ, here http://bit.ly/ICP8A, and here http://bit.ly/108jlE.

Their fear, anger, and disgust are well-founded in the belief that governmental nitwits will soon be determining what health care they get and, literally, deciding whether it’s their time to shuffle off this mortal coil.

Liberals are many things but, usually, not stupid. It will be a long, hot August for them if they continue to allow popular dissent.

Those townhalls will soon devolve into . . .

(Read the rest at http://genelalor.com)

Mark, thanks for the post! This is a extremely troubling story and I believe that there may be some "smoke" behind this "fishy" disinformation list. Remember, we had the anti- "fishy " patrol during the Obama campaign to attack anyone that questioned Obama's past or his positions. What was it, some type of site to quell rumors (or facts!) that were unfavorable to Obama? Nearly all were dismissed by the slobbering MSM or blamed on "rumor-mongering right wingers". I for one have not been an Obama Kool aide drinker because I live in IL. and have been well aware of Obama rise in politics with his close friend and felon money man Tony Resko (if Bush had bought his house like Obama did with Tony he would experienced enhanced torture ) or his nefarious political cronies in IL, such as his mentor, now retired Sen. Jones, or his years of supporting Blago. including repeated endorsements as the "man to lead IL". And there are many questionable "friends" and"associates" that I found troubling. This does not even take into account those lefty idealists who implanted and nurtured his young mind. So yes, this is typical Chicago politics and you know it. But the meat and potatoes (love that word!) of your story is that it should be troubling to everyone of us who contribute to the Swamp, lefties and righties. Thanks for covering it and let us all pray that there is not any truth to this latest WH tactic. Consider me one of the "mob" of protesters against Obamacare, report me lefties if in your heart you deeply believe that such action does not go against the very core fabric of your soul that the value of free speech and protest is the greatest asset we have. I have no fear and always remember when one is on the other side of the fence, looking in. Stay on it Mark, we respect the value of free speech in the Swamp. Oh, that Agnew line was classic!

I would like to report this man to the watch-list for re-education. He is spreading disinformation and confusion about nationalized healthcare.

I have every confidence that the government will be a responsible steward of healthcare, just as they have been with Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the US Postal Service, etc...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRPmcjShtZw

Thank you.

Apparently this wackjob republican doesn't know his facts. There is free speech. There is private speech. There is no such thing as "private AND free speech". Email is NOT private. Once you send an email, its out in the public domain. Get real, this is a non-issue. Conspiracy theorist repugs have lost their minds with this alien-abduction-email-list-collection type ballyhoo.

Why does the headline say "nope?" The Obama administration clearly is asking for information about those who disagree with it.

Let's imagine, if we will, what would have been the reaction if Bush had done this about say, the war?

Well, it's apparent the leftists are out in droves here. They're calling people "wingnuts" becasue the White House is asking people to inform on their friends and neighbors. These are the same Zombies (i.e. non-thinking, single-minded, yet somehow still living) that were apoplectic when the Bush admin wanted to monitor people that actually attacked the US on 9/11. Oh sorry, I forgot. 9/11was a Bush admin conspiracy. Frankly, I'd rather see the left and right just duke it out on World Wrestling, last man standing wins the debate.

So while the liar in chief is collecting information and IP addresses regarding bills he refuses to read, we are to believe that mr. transparency would not use that information. At the same time the liar starts collecting the data he unleashes a coordinated attack on anyone that has the audacity to speak out in ACORN fashion against his destruction of the health care industry. Why then does the liar preside over a meeting of his brownshirts asking them to fan out into the communities and get into the faces of those that oppose the bills he refuses to read. You don't buy this kind of outrage, it comes naturally to people that recognize when a facist is attempting to control their lives.

I can not believe that this is ok with anyone in the USA.
If is send a PRIVATE EMAIL to someone to think it is ok for them to send it to the white house to look over.
The Government then has my email address the persons who turned them in email address.
I hope everyone understands from that they can find out who you are even if you think your using an anonymous email service it is all tied to your computers IP

Cornyn=paranoia?

report me...don't u realize that not only will the WH have my personal information, but they will have the info on the one who reports me. now i realize this does not concern many of u because God forbid, you would never say anything negative about obamacare. however, what happens when the man does something u don't agree with and u decide to email ur dad about it. now the WH can monitor u and ur dad who would then be considered "enemies of the state"...right wing, left wing, moderate, it doesn't matter, this is fuggin wrong...do not spy on your neighbor for less than 30 pieces of silver. the going rate for turning in ur friends...

Let's imagine, if we will, what would have been the reaction if Bush had done this about say, the war?

Posted by: beth | August 6, 2009 9:17 AM

When Bush did this, the reaction from the left -- me included, and frequently -- was absolute outrage.

And I was told by the right that as long as the President needed the information, it was absolutely fine for him to use whatever means he needed to to get it, and for me to complain about it was insane and un-American. If the President is doing it, it's legal and there's no more need for discussion. Is ANY of this causing any kind of personal loss TO YOU? What kind of right has been taken away FROM YOU, PERSONALLY? Has your name or your email been forwarded to the White House and are you undergoing any kind of hardship because of it? If you can't show where you are actually being denied any rights, then you just need to shut up and get out of this great country (or so the right would say, if this were happening under the Bush administration and you were a leftie complaining about it). If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about, right?

And, before you respond as to being denied rights (as I did), let me just add that citing 4th Amendment protection against the government intruding on our privacy without a warrant DOESN'T count as denial of one's rights (apparently, because it sure didn't then), NOR does the argument that it doesn't MATTER that you can't prove your name is on a list but rather the issue would be that you can't prove it is NOT. Still immaterial, or it would be if I were talking to a Republican during the Bush administration.

The ONLY thing you'd need to keep in mind, if we were talking about Bush during his administration, is that you have the assurance from the President that he's not using the information for any untoward purposes. That ought to be enough for you!

Special Op: The Bush administration was criticized for allowing the monitoring of conversations between suspected terrorists; those who like to blow up buildings and kill Americans, like Bill Ayers before you made him a professor.

At the time, post 9/11, you may recall, fear was rampant that the terrorists had acquired and were intent on detonating a nuclear device, possibly in your backyard. Among those captured, this was one of their assurances.

This current WH effort is to find out who is speaking critically about Government run health care, not who wants to nuke health care buildings.

Liberals insisted after 9/11 that government reveal their sources for information obtained on terrorists who try to blow up buildings and kill Americans. At the courts insistence, intel, of course, dried up.

bubbaPorter, didn't know that everytime you post here your info gets passed on from the Swamp to David Axelrod? Didn't Bruce tell you? They know all about you. And they have posted a secret camera in your shower to see if you are saving water by urinating when you shower! Be green, bubba!

Really. We should be concerned with this when we did nothing about warrantless wiretaps?? Give me a break.

The full extent of Bush/Cheney's illegal wiretapping and surveillance under the guise of the Patriot Act has yet to come out.

One place it may come out is in Leahy's investigation of White House firing of US Attorneys.

Expand that investigation a bit and you'll be shocked at the real extent of their misuse of FBI, etc.

Just another reason the criminal statute of limitations needs to be extended.

Special Op: The Bush administration was criticized for allowing the monitoring of conversations between suspected terrorists; those who like to blow up buildings and kill Americans, like Bill Ayers before you made him a professor.

At the time, post 9/11, you may recall, fear was rampant that the terrorists had acquired and were intent on detonating a nuclear device, possibly in your backyard. Among those captured, this was one of their assurances.

This current WH effort is to find out who is speaking critically about Government run health care, not who wants to nuke health care buildings.

Liberals insisted after 9/11 that government reveal their sources for information obtained on terrorists who try to blow up buildings and kill Americans. At the courts insistence, intel, of course, dried up.

Posted by: ObamabotsACTIVATE | August 6, 2009 6:34 PM

It's incorrect that Bush was criticized for "allowing the monitoring of conversations between suspected terrorists." Bush was criticized FOR BYPASSING FISA AND ANY SEMBLANCE OF A WARRANT to monitor WHATEVER CONVERSATIONS HE DEEMED NECESSARY, with NO OVERSIGHT BY ANY THIRD PARTY.

For Bush to have acted within that law would have been (by definition) perfectly legal, and NOBODY would have had a basis for complaint about it. When he overstepped FISA, he also overstepped his authority. Since FISA allows for warrants to be issued up to TWO DAYS AFTER information is found, and since FISC has traditionally bent over backward to cooperate in issuing warrants, there's NO reason for Bush to have needed to step outside that law, EXCEPT in order to get information that wouldn't have been covered BY the law.

Special Op: The Bush administration was criticized for allowing the monitoring of conversations between suspected terrorists; those who like to blow up buildings and kill Americans, like Bill Ayers before you made him a professor.
At the time, post 9/11, you may recall, fear was rampant that the terrorists had acquired and were intent on detonating a nuclear device, possibly in your backyard. Among those captured, this was one of their assurances.
This current WH effort is to find out who is speaking critically about Government run health care, not who wants to nuke health care buildings.
Liberals insisted after 9/11 that government reveal their sources for information obtained on terrorists who try to blow up buildings and kill Americans. At the courts insistence, intel, of course, dried up.
Posted by: ObamabotsACTIVATE | August 6, 2009 6:34 PM

(Not sure if my previous post will make it through, so here’s a re-do. My apologies if it winds up being a duplicate.)

It’s not true that the Bush administration “was criticized for allowing the monitoring of conversations between suspected terrorists.” The Bush administration was criticized FOR STEPPING OUTSIDE FISA IN ORDER TO MONITOR ANY CONVERSATION THE ADMINISTRATION – IN ITS SOLE AUTHORITY – DECIDED IT NEEDED TO MONITOR, WITH NO OVERSIGHT BY A LAWFULLY-APPOINTED THIRD PARTY (FISC). Bush had every necessary LEGAL tool at his disposal to monitor conversations as needed, but still went outside that legal constraint, OVERSTEPPING HIS AUTHORITY. FISA allowed for warrants to be requested up to TWO DAYS AFTER obtaining information, and FISC has traditionally bent over backward to grant warrants, so there should have been no NEED for Bush to go outside FISA, EXCEPT TO GET INFORMATION THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN LEGALLY GRANTED TO HIM. Had the administration stayed WITHIN the law, there would have been NO basis for any complaint whatsoever. I don’t know why, but you guys keep forgetting about that part.

At the time Bush was bypassing FISA, the Republicans typically supported him tooth and nail and insisted that no one who was not a guilty party anyway would be monitored, based solely on assurances from the White House (since reported to be false) that they were ONLY monitoring terrorist conversations: “If you haven’t done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear.” Let me just throw in that you have assurances from the White House NOW that any information gathered will be used ONLY to counter incorrect INFORMATION and quell rumors, not to punish anyone (per this article and counter to your statement that the effort is “to find out who is speaking critically about Government run health care.” If you’ve done nothing wrong, and if you don’t PLAN to do anything wrong, then why are YOU worried? Do you not want to have correct, accurate information made available to people who want to make an informed decision? Do you want the public kept away from the truth for some reason? Why ELSE would Republicans change their tune now that the White House is run by a Democrat?

I DO recall that fear of nuclear devices in the hand of terrorists was rampant after 9/11. I recall it quite well, in fact. I also recall that a lot of that fear was propagated by none other than the Bush administration through their use of cherry-picked “facts” to ensure that a cowed, fearful public would support a war with Iraq, before they found themselves at the business end of an Iraqi missile. Hence their “smoking gun” argument. Much of the “facts” they used were shown to be highly inaccurate, and there’s still that argument that continues to nag the Republicans that Bush and Cheney KNEW the facts were inaccurate when they used them, but used them anyway so as to quell any opposition to invasion of Iraq, which had been discussed even before 9/11 happened. By the way, where ARE those weapons of mass destruction?

Cornyn is an idiot - just all Texans.

This conspiracy is birther dumb.

White House is required to keep copies of all e-mail, so they will always have the data necessary to create any list they desire at any time they desire it.

White House is required to keep copies of all e-mail, so they will always have the data necessary to create any list they desire at any time they desire it.

Posted by: L. Stokes | August 9, 2009 10:30 AM

You mean like all those emails Bush and Cheney were supposed to have kept?

Who can you beleive?

Sent all your SPAM to flag@whitehouse.gov. Give them the trash they want!

The list is out, so what do all you sheople think now? Your going down with all of us. People like you helped change Germany to Nazi Germany. Good luck