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by Mark Silva
Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois, the No. 2 leader of the Senate, senior senator from Illinois and one of seven senators who voted against cutting off federal housing funds for ACORN, the community organization enmeshed in controversy over its workers' activities, says he'd like to see a "trial'' before there's any "hanging.''
"I'm from one of those traditional law schools -- you know, first the trial, then the hanging,'' Durbin said in an appearance today on MSNBC's Morning Joe , noting that "three or four employees'' terminated have been accused of wrongdoing and they should be investigated and prosecuted.
That hanging has been underway for some time now at FOX News, its commentators reveling in the video of two young conservative activists who posed as a pimp and a prostitute and carried a video-camera into ACORN offices.
The undercover duo solicited advice from some of the national organization's counselors and elicited guidance that has fueled FOX's drive against an organization that was actively involved in voter registration last year, a drive that benefited the Democrats and President Barack Obama -- with some of its workers accused of registration fraud.
The Senate has voted to suspend Housing and Urban Development funds for a group that helps impoverished people find housing, and the House has voted to call off all funding. Durbin and Illinois colleague Sen. Roland Burris were among the seven senators who voted no. Seventy-five House members, all Democrats, voted no.
Members of Congress are calling for an investigation.
President Barack Obama addressed the controversy during a round of Sunday news show interviews: "Are there folks in the Democratic camp or on the left who haven't ... always operated ways that I'd appreciate?'' Obama asked. "Absolutely...
"I didn't even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money,'' the president said. (A little more than $50 million over 15 years.) "What I know is, is that what I saw on that video was certainly inappropriate and deserves to be investigated (but) this is not the biggest issue facing the country. It's not something I'm paying a lot of attention to.''
While Obama was dominating the news shows of ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and Univision, the White House had cut FOX News Sunday out of the health-care campaign spree of presidential interviews. But over at FOX, one of the congressmen leading the push against ACORN, Rep. Darrel Issa (R-Cal.), was debating the CEO and chief organizer of ACORN, Bertha Lewis, on FOX host Chris Wallace's show.
And Wallace was pressing the ACORN chief pretty hard on the question of whether she'd testify to Congress -- as if anyone in her position subpoenaed before a congressional committee would snub it. He also was probing the motivation behind what has become a full-bore controversy over a once little-known community organization.
"We are the largest community organization of low- and moderate-income folks and mostly people of color,'' Lewis told Wallace. "And of course, any organization is not entirely perfect....
"I think Congress...will be looking at doing an anti- ACORN amendment and just singling out one organization, but we continue to make sure that all of our employees -- if they're too stupid to understand that they are not reaching professional standards, we terminate them,'' said Lewis, who already has fired the employees ensnared in the BigGovernment.com sting operation and has ordered a "top-to-bottom'' review..
"I don't know of another organization,'' Issa said on FOX News Sunday, "structured the way you are where they're both a political wing, if you will, of the Democratic Party, and has close relations with the unions, and takes federal dollars, and takes charity money, and does not disclose in a way in which anybody -- your donors, the government when they provide money -- can actually get transparency."
ACORN, it appears, will get a pretty close look -- that trial perhaps.
Here, courtesy of FOX News, are excerpts from Sunday's show.
ON NAMING AN INDEPENDENT AUDITOR TO REVIEW ACORN
ACORN CEO/CHIEF ORGANIZER BERTHA LEWIS:
"You will have that announcement on Monday making sure that when we hit the ground running that everything is in place.
"You'll find out who that person is, and you'll also note that we brought in things last year, new auditors, new financial professionals, to make sure that they gave us sound advice, which I've been implementing, as well as making sure that what you just saw never, ever happens again."
ON WHETHER THIS IS ABOUT RACE AND POLITICS
ACORN CEO/CHIEF ORGANIZER BERTHA LEWIS:
"We are the largest community organization of low- and moderate-income folks and mostly people of color. And of course, any organization is not entirely perfect."
"I think Congress...will be looking at doing an anti- ACORN amendment and just singling out one organization, but we continue to make sure that all of our employees -- if they're too stupid to understand that they are not reaching professional standards, we terminate them."
ON THE CONTROVERSIAL VIDEOS
ACORN CEO/CHIEF ORGANIZER BERTHA LEWIS:
"They were terminated immediately."
"And what did I also do? Make sure that we have an independent review, make sure that we suspended any walk-in activities so we could review what worked, what didn't work."
"In a way, this was good for us, so what it did was show up to us what weaknesses we have."
ON WHETHER ACORN CEO LEWIS WANTS PRESIDENT OBAMA TO VETO A MEASURE CUTTING OFF FUNDING
ACORN CEO/CHIEF ORGANIZER BERTHA LEWIS:
"President Obama is a very smart, very thoughtful person. What he does is his decision. I would never presume to tell the president whether he should veto a bill or not."
ON PRESIDENT OBAMA'S BELIEF THAT ACORN SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED
ACORN CEO/CHIEF ORGANIZER BERTHA LEWIS:
"Well, that's his opinion also."
ON WHY REP. DARREL ISSA THINKS ACORN IS A CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION
REP. DARRELL ISSA (R-CA):
"[O]ne thing they did was they covered up an embezzlement, both internally and externally, and then glossed over the dollars..."
"The bottom line is there's no transparency in ACORN."
ON ACORN'S STATUS AS A TAXABLE NONPROFIT AND A NONPROFIT ENGAGING IN POLITICAL ACTIVITY
ACORN CEO/CHIEF ORGANIZER BERTHA LEWIS:
"We've made sure since I've become the CEO that affiliates have firewalls between them."
"I've completely overhauled all of our finances, all of our controls...the 'R' in ACORN stands for reform. And not only do we think we want to reform public policy, but internally let's have some reform."
"I think what you would also agree with is the right of the people to come together not only to petition their government...But you also need to be able to do lawful (c)(3) activities such as servicing the community, which we do. I think an organization can do both."
"You have an organization such as ours that absolutely pays its taxes and absolutely provides its services. It has firewalls up. We think it's up to the Congress to determine how they would handle some sort of anti-ACORN program or amendment.
REP. DARRELL ISSA (R-CA):
REP. ISSA: "I don't know of another organization structured the way you are where they're both a political wing, if you will, of the Democratic Party, and has close relations with the unions, and takes federal dollars, and takes charity money, and does not disclose in a way in which anybody -- your donors, the government when they provide money -- can actually get transparency."









Comments
I sure wish Senator Durbin would have had the courage, in the face of another lynch mob, that included a staged media arrest in the early morning hours, to protest, as loudly, as he is rightly protesting the lynch mob after Acorn !!. After an elected, sitting Governor was taken away in handcuffs in front of his family, the long knives were being sharpened by media types and soiled politicians !! Ex-Governor Blagojevich is still looking for his day in court, although he has already been tried, convicted and hung by a kangaroo court, know fondly as Madigan's MadHouse of Representatives, here in Illinois !! You are a day late, Senator and a dollar short !! I do hope your protestations will head off this lynch mob, but Corporate Media needs some more material to soil President Obama, thus moving those Corporate wheels against anything, President Obama !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.
Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, IL | September 21, 2009 10:56 AM
This guy is such a waste. I didn't like him was I was a resident and I like him even less now that I'm retired in Georgia. What goes on in the state of Illinois, is simply appalling. Both Durbin and Burris should tender their resignations immediately. And the way
Quinn is going he should maybe rethink his run for the Governorship. Do the people of Illinois a favor..., don't run.
Posted by: Paul | September 21, 2009 11:02 AM
Is that the same Dick Durbin who compared members of our military to "Nazis, Soviets in their gulags or some mad regime — Pol Pot or others — that had no concern for human beings?" He's a regular model for fairness, cool headedness and "tradition" huh? When will politicians realized the laughing stock that they are?
Posted by: Kathy | September 21, 2009 11:19 AM
I grew up in Chicagoland, but I'm glad Senator Durbin and his replacement colleague from Illinois don't represent me in the World's Most Exclusive Body of 100.
The reason why so many state legislatures, especially in the south, are heading to the right (or far right) these days is because of starry-eye carry overs from the SDS and anti-war/anti-military days of the 60's and 70's like Dick Durbin.
He's no Simon, Douglas, Stevenson or Dirksen. He's simply a Durbin.
Posted by: Oak Park Lefty | September 21, 2009 11:45 AM
Durbin's comment about "trial first, hanging later" is interesting. It's too bad he hasn't applied that same philosophy in the healthcare debate. The Massachusetts "trial" of universal healthcare shows that most of what Durbin supports will not work... but he still wants to shove government-run, taxpayer-paid, limited-choice healthcare down our throats.
Posted by: Fred | September 21, 2009 11:49 AM
Drubin, the voters will take
care of your re election as
we can see you cannot get the job done for us.
Posted by: PistolPete44 | September 21, 2009 11:49 AM
Excellent point Kathy. Dick Durbin is a partisan hack who serves his party rather than the citizens of IL. Given the remarkably low standard of public servants in this state, he will keep being sent back to the Senate so long as he doesn't get indicted. Durbin is totally in the pocket of the left-wing of this country and it is a shame that I have to call him my senator.
Posted by: Jeremy - Chicago | September 21, 2009 11:52 AM
Don You're insane the "corporate media" bends over backwards to kiss Barry's butt no matter how much evidence there is that he's more of an incompetent boob than George ever was. Remember if you disagree with Barry you are racist.
Posted by: Corey | September 21, 2009 11:54 AM
Good ol' Turban Durbin.
Before you know it, he'll be hollering about NYPD arresting the guy with Al Qaeda contacts. Who knows what lame liberal reason he'll use THIS time!
Posted by: brad | September 21, 2009 11:55 AM
Mr. Durbin is a disgrace! ACORN is under investigation for voter fraud in at least 13 states, through a subsidary they recieved 800K from the Obama campaign for 'get out the vote' services but did so on such a partisan level that at a glance would be precluded by their 501 (c)(3) would preclude, and a multiple state income and mortgage fraud mentality revealed by the sting operation puts it squarly in the 'where there's smoke there's fire' category, Mr. Durbin. Again, sir, you are a disgrace and your extreme minority vote on this subject shows that you favor a criminal enterprise over responsible use of MY tax dollars. Please resign as your record of disappointment and disgrace are a disservice to the people of Illinois and to the taxpayers of this nation.
Posted by: Ron | September 21, 2009 12:04 PM
Sure- there may be a perfectly rational reason why these people were explaining how to violate the law ON TAPE. Durbin's real reason is that he has never had any backbone. Time to rid ourselves of this bum.
Posted by: Taxpayer | September 21, 2009 12:05 PM
Dick Durbin-One more reason not to live in Illinois.
Posted by: Mike Witters | September 21, 2009 12:06 PM
Kathy what do you think of the members of our military who tortured dozens of people to death. Are you proud of them? Would you like to congratulate them? Is that something you think we all should be proud of? Tell us Kathy, does the following story sound like it should come from the KGB, Pol Pot, or the US military?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2006-01-19-suffocation-trial_x.htm
Or how about this one? Does these activities deserve our praise Kathy? Would you praise these activities of they were done by the KGB or the Nazis?
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/06/30/accountability/index.html
Posted by: Torture is Wrong. Period. | September 21, 2009 12:14 PM
Are we saying that we don't even believe in DUE PROCESS....
Durbin is right.
Posted by: Progress68 | September 21, 2009 12:18 PM
Durbin is afraid someone will dig his name up in some of those probes in ACORN.
Posted by: Voter | September 21, 2009 12:20 PM
Senator Durbin blaming Fox News is a very lame excuse for his vote to not cut off Federal Funds at ACORN. Durbin and the National News Media ignored this story for ten days. Only Fox and later CNN reported the story. Senators Durbin and Burris (D-Blago) along with five other Senators voted to support ACORN. In the last 50 years Illinois has produced some great Senators like Everett Dirksen, Paul Douglas, Chuck Percy and Paul Simon. But we seem to be electing or appointing some real duds the last few years like Burris, Braun and Durbin. Illinois can do a lot better.
Posted by: Depot- Jim | September 21, 2009 12:22 PM
Is anybody surprised?
Posted by: Rod Axel | September 21, 2009 12:22 PM
Durbin is another one of those hack politicians who holds his constituents/voters in contempt.
Posted by: Truth Teller | September 21, 2009 12:27 PM
While most of the posteriors here are content in making Durbin the butt of their comments, I think that the two principles involved are worthy of more detailed discussion:
1.) the traditional legal principle of being innocent until proven guilty; and 2.) the "urgency" on the part of some in Congress to strip federal funding from entities merely under investigation. My hope is that they will begin with Defense Contractors and the para-military security organizations that have proliferated in the past decade, though. These contracts are worth tens of billions of dollars in losses to the taxpayers. Get a sense of priority, people!
Posted by: DaveK | September 21, 2009 12:28 PM
Sen. Durbin: If everyone who is the target of allegations of criminal wrongdoing is deserving of a trial before hanging, why is it that ACORN CEO Bertha Lewis has already fired those employees who were in the video? Maybe because they are GUILTY?
Why do you continue to give this criminal organization the benefit of the doubt, Sen. Durbin? You are a disgrace and embarrassment to the state of Illinois.
Posted by: Ryan C. | September 21, 2009 12:29 PM
Durbin is just another Dem follower with a big brass ring in his nose. His mind and soul is owned by the liberal left, which he feels is morally superior, and therefore can be justified in anything it does. Acorn included.
Posted by: Jim P. | September 21, 2009 12:30 PM
While most of the posteriors here are content in making Durbin the butt of their comments, I think that the two principles involved are worthy of more detailed discussion:
1.) the traditional legal principle of being innocent until proven guilty; and 2.) the "urgency" on the part of some in Congress to strip federal funding from entities merely under investigation. My hope is that they will begin with Defense Contractors and the para-military security organizations that have proliferated in the past decade, though. These contracts are worth tens of billions of dollars in losses to the taxpayers. Get a sense of priority, people!
Posted by: DaveK | September 21, 2009 12:35 PM
Of course he won't stop giving ACORN our money. He needs all of the fake votes this great organization can manufacture. It is sad that a senator believes money earned by the taxpayer is better spent by an organization that encourages organized cheating on taxes as well as voter fraud. Likewise, it is funny that the dead vote always goes DEM. Gotta love the Peoples Republic of Chicago.
Posted by: Nut off the ACORN tree | September 21, 2009 12:35 PM
I wish DD had told the truth which obviously is “I’ve been bought and paid for by ACORN and others. I have little or no concern about my constituents and their money that I’m doling out to countless scams because I know there are enough stupid people in Illinois that I will get reelected”!
Posted by: W T S | September 21, 2009 12:39 PM
"I'm from one of those traditional law schools -- you know, first the trial, then the hanging,'' Durbin said
ACORN doesn't have a "right" to our tax dollars unless proven guilty of something; Sen Durbin will do well to consider that he has a constituency to represent.
Posted by: Mark | September 21, 2009 12:42 PM
I'm not saying what those ACORN employees did was right. But it's too bad these self-righteous young conservatives didn't use hidden cameras to entrap all the Wall Street bandits whose irresponsible (and probably illegal) gambling caused a world financial collapse. The outrage at FOX NEWS over the ACORN scandal is so hypocritical.
Yes, these employees were encouraging illegal and even downright disgusting behavior. But given the deprivation they come from, it's no wonder they just want to get their share of the pie, like they see everybody else doing.
Posted by: lnbee | September 21, 2009 12:43 PM
Durbin,
You don't need a trial or due process to cut gov't funding. I guess someone should remind him that the country has a projected $9,000,000,000,000 deficit. If a group that receives gov't money tells people to break tax laws and encourages child prositutution should lose their gov't funding, I don't know who should.
Posted by: Terry | September 21, 2009 12:49 PM
He voted against the bill because ACORN helps get him elected. He's nothing more than an anti-american wannabe dictator. He's useless.
Posted by: jim | September 21, 2009 12:49 PM
Dick....thanks for the stunning insightful thoughts !! It is because of hacks like you that will get the Republicans back in control of the House and Senate.......then our Socialist agenda will die the death it deserves !!!!!
Posted by: Jim N | September 21, 2009 12:53 PM
Its too bad his sorry butt isn't up for reelection in 2010.
Posted by: Tom | September 21, 2009 12:56 PM
Funny, so does Durbin still support Blago? I don't remember him running to Blago's defense, and there hasn't been a trail yet.
I guess Durbin just doesn't know a criminal organization when he sees it, but then, seems he's part of one right now.
Vote every single one of these self serving democrats in Illinois out of office.
Durbin knows this criminal organization help put obama in office using voter fraud, yet Durbin doesn't want to go after a corrupt organization because it supports democrats.
Pathetic, disgusting and typical Illinois politician, just like obama
Posted by: noneoftheabove | September 21, 2009 12:58 PM
Commentators here are apparently too stupid to understand a simple point: "under investigation" is not the same as "guilty". Also: the actions of individual employees do not NECESSARILY reflect the will of an organization, corporation or party.
On some level, I understand the position of the extremists commenting here. ACORN is an organization working against the interests of the Republican party, so of course any chance the 'wingers get to discredit them, they'll take. But the bottom line is that this is just politicking: would these same people got after the Republicans when a single employee of the GOP goes off and does something illegal? Of course not. There were many organizations, on both sides of the aisle, whose employees violated elections rules. But of course the GOPers just focus on one agency, ACORN, because it suits their political goals.
Your bias and your rancor is obvious. You are fooling no-one. And the fact that a "news" organization such as FOX is pushing the execution of ANY organization is just appalling. FOX needs to decide whether they are a news organization or a political/lobbying organization. Their tactics are becoming quite alarming and the fact that the wingnuts commenting here don't see it is downright scary.
Posted by: ChicagoCliff | September 21, 2009 12:59 PM
Durbin compares it to a hanging? More like out on bail. Acorn wouldn't have been killed; just not getting any taxpayers money until an investigation could be completed.
What's ol' Dick's position on the investigation? Or is that a hanging too?
Where's the rest of the media on this? Why did Dicky go on Morning Joe instead of sitting down with the Trib's editorial board?
Can't believe we have 5 1/2 more years of this clown.
Posted by: JimmyB | September 21, 2009 1:04 PM
Too bad Senator Durbin is not consistent in his application of justice. For an example, he was all for hanging Roland Burris before a trial.
Senator Durbin is a typical politican. He has no ethical core and is disengenous.
Posted by: Chris F | September 21, 2009 1:09 PM
Thanks DaveK. I was about to post the same thoughts. The ACORN scandal only became a scandal when Fox news decided it should be one. Come on, people- why not direct some of that righteous fervor at BlackWater or any of the other security agencies that are bilking this country out of millions and commiting crimes in the name of the US. Or does Fox not think THAT is newsworthy?
Posted by: jules | September 21, 2009 1:12 PM
I'm so glad that the conservatives are showing how fair and balanced they are by demandding that ACORN funding is immediately cut based on the allegations of fraud, just like they demanded that Halliburton's funding be cut when the allegations of fraud came out on their contracts in Iraq, and like they demanded that Blackwaters contract be immediately terminated when it was alleged that their employess murdered innocent Iraqis in cold blood. It would have been rank hypocrisy to treat those instances differently, and,we know that the conservatives would never be hypocrites!
Posted by: Greetings from the Bizzaro World | September 21, 2009 1:13 PM
Comparing this to a hanging is cute, but really doesn't apply in this case. Of course the individuals involved should get a fair trial. But what we are talking about here isn't a hanging. It's whether we should provide taxpayer funding to an organization. Seems to me the burden of proof shifts to the organization. If they want my money, they must prove that they will spend it wisely and legally. If they can't, they shouldn't get my money. And if we aren't sure, we should wait until the facts are sorted out before we give them any more money.
Posted by: Larry | September 21, 2009 1:16 PM
Democrats in Congress: Director Panetta, are you sure you don't want the Department of Justice to investigate the CIA instead of appointing an investigator yourselves?
.
The Director: "You'll find out who that person is, and you'll also note that we brought in things last year, new auditors, new financial professionals, to make sure that they gave us sound advice, which I've been implementing, as well as making sure that what you just saw never, ever happens again
.
Democrats in Congress: Okeedokey
Posted by: Greg | September 21, 2009 1:18 PM
Durbin says he'd like to see a "trial'' before there's any "hanging.'' So would we; BRING IT. A full Congressional investigation of the entire organization going back five or more years. The democrats don't have the guts to do something like that. If they investigate, it will be by the democrats; excluding the GOP and Congress, per usual.
Posted by: Banderman | September 21, 2009 1:21 PM
He wants to see a trial first? Isn't this the same guy who condemned Roland Burris when he was first announced as Senator? Didn't Roland qualify for a trial?
Face it, if he votes against ACORN he's afaid he'll lose the next election.
Posted by: Shemp | September 21, 2009 1:22 PM
How sad that our incompetent, special-interest driven senator gives the corrupt Acorn a pass but chose to publicly hang our fine military personnel without the benefit of a trial or facts.
Posted by: Todd | September 21, 2009 1:23 PM
Absolute nonsense. Durbin is a DemocratIC political hack that is beholden to the SEIU and other unions that fund ACORN.
Why is he so "popular" anyway?
Posted by: mark | September 21, 2009 1:29 PM
Dick Durbin has always been a party hack. In truth he doesn't have a personal opinion on anything. He just does what he thinks will cause as little controversy in the left of center wing of the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Patrick Lonski | September 21, 2009 1:29 PM
I find it funny that in this political climate, it is easier to now throw the baby out with the bath water. Heaven forbid there were found to be a crooked cop or two, then the police departments would be defunded.
Posted by: bill r. | September 21, 2009 1:29 PM
Dick Durbin (reminds me of Turbin) wants to treat this like the lawyer he is so he can stand in the way of this investigation which will soil so many democrat reputations.
It is election tme soon and this is not good for any of them. They want to bury this fast and the media will try to help them do that. They have already made their position clear by keeping the lid on the story as long as they could.
The dismantling of acorn is much like tearing down an abandoned, rat infested house. If you just start tearing it down with a bulldozer, the rats all have a chance to escape and find shelter in another structure; they live on to be rats. This house needs to be torched now so these folks can get out of "community service"
By the way, this is the third time I have submitted this message. It was somehow lost in the Swamp as "improperly submitted". Maybe third time is the charm.
Posted by: JimBob | September 21, 2009 1:35 PM
I wish everyone would watch the Senate in action on CSPAN. What a joke!! This place is like a "country club". and Dick Durbin is one of the members...
Posted by: Bruce | September 21, 2009 1:35 PM
My comment is that it is difficult to find a more spineless, pandering, incompetent, anti American, phoney socialist politician than Durbin. Though I know it is an exercise in futility, I enjoy voting for his opponent every 6 years. Illinois will never wake up.
Posted by: spec4 | September 21, 2009 1:37 PM
PLEASE vote this guy out of office. He is a disgrace to the State.
Posted by: David | September 21, 2009 1:41 PM
How long has the Federal government been giving money to ACORN? My understanding is at least 15 years. So these two reporters out of the blue just decide to investigate them. Hmmm is is possible that people who rely on ACORN are democrats and not republicans and some of the blowhards on FOX don't want to see this group of people represented? While I agree any organization that gets govenment funds needs to be held accountable I wonder why they weren't checked out by Fox prior to Obamas candidacy.
Posted by: Suze | September 21, 2009 1:43 PM
Illinois just lost nearly 20,000 more jobs last month. That is another 20,000 families unable to pay rent, mortgage, bills, buy groceries and live! Mr. Durbin, you and your buddy, Burris are busy voting to maintain wasting the taxpayers money on ACORN. Don't you fellows understand what is important here? We don't need to fund ACORN either way, legit or not. The citizens of Illinois need real representation that take real action on their behalf to get us through the latest mess that congress has created.
Posted by: Pragmatic | September 21, 2009 1:43 PM
the man did the right thing. Good for Durbin. Due process should have a place in our society.
I know, ACORN has been grating on the right for some time now. As it is, ACORN will continue to do its registration drives and what have you. That won't change. The $3mil from congress ACORN receives does not go to that type of work.
Posted by: alex | September 21, 2009 1:46 PM
The media perceive and portray Durbin as a kindly Midwestern centrist, but he is a complete left winger beholden to every corrupt interest group of the Democrats.
Posted by: quotidian | September 21, 2009 1:49 PM
People of Illinois should remember this and many more Durbin's comments when he is up for re-election. I will.
Posted by: John | September 21, 2009 1:51 PM
Any organization receiving tax dollars need to be accountable for those monies.
The Federal government has been giving money to ACORN for well over 10 years. It is interesting that FOX only now accuses them of being a corrupt organization. Where were the FOX networks top notch investigators prior to Obama's candidacy?
Posted by: suze | September 21, 2009 1:53 PM
OK voters...pay attention..Durbin is a big liberal!
Don't forget to vote him out!
Posted by: Barbara | September 21, 2009 2:02 PM
Why did he vote to fund acorn? Simple, he's an idiot. But he's an idiot who will be in the Senate for a long time because Dems have such a strangle hold on Illinois and liberals (whether they call themselves dem, repub or indep) seem to naive to understand him.
Posted by: Guy Williams | September 21, 2009 2:04 PM
HUD has destroyed the South Side and West Side of Chicago by seeding safe working-class neighborhoods with minority gang members in the name of "integration" and "fair housing". HUD has destroyed Detroit and Gary. HUD is well on its way to destroying Cleveland, DC, Memphis, St. Louis, and Philadelphia. HUD is starting on cities like MIlwaukee and Minneapolis. HUD has done more damage to this country than Osama bin Laden ever dreamed of doing.
Posted by: tom | September 21, 2009 2:06 PM
I just wonder how Dicky keeps getting elected. Anyway, unless Pres. Obama signs the bill nothing happens to the funding. If he vetoes it, I doubt anyone will call for an overrife vote.
Posted by: Ken | September 21, 2009 2:06 PM
Sure wish the Repubs would have been this diligent in busting Halliburton for all the millions they've overcharged on their cushy no-bid contracts, for the harm they inflicted on our soldiers with shoddy service...why weren't the FOX robots jumping up and down then? It's a witch hunt and another big waste of time (kind of like that big witch hunt over a BJ in the 80's).
Posted by: DD | September 21, 2009 2:13 PM
To Jules: You got your Keith Olbermann talking points down real well regarding the ACORN Scandal. Is that your only response is to blame it on Fox News? It is interesting that the other News Outlets, first CNN and then the others, are all reporting this story now. The only amazing thing here is that it took some of the News Media 10 days to report the story. There may be something to this story that the Far Left does not want the American Public to hear.
Posted by: Depot- Jim | September 21, 2009 2:16 PM
The Repubs would LUUUV ACORN if they were 1) signing up mostly Republican voters, 2) ripping up registrations of any other party's voters, 3) giving advice to preachers on how to push their political agenda without losing their tax-exempt status, 4) giving loan assistance to millionaire CEO's who are in trouble for looting their companies...etc.
Posted by: DD | September 21, 2009 2:17 PM
"I'm from one of those traditional law schools -- you know, first the trial, then the hanging,'' Durbin said
ACORN doesn't have a "right" to our tax dollars unless proven guilty of something; Sen Durbin will do well to consider that he has a constituency to represent.
Posted by: Mark | September 21, 2009 2:25 PM
Mr. Andrew Breitbart told radio talk show host, Dr. Michael Savage that a new and bigger blockbuster story was going to be exposed this week. What Mr. Breibart also mentioned is that it won't be related to ACORN.
I told my wife that several major cities have been successfully targeted and exposed, except Chicago, furthermore, on the videos young Mr. O'Keefe has in some instances introduced himself as a politician seeking office.
I suspect that the new bombshell(s) will be related to damaging politics for the Democratic Party and the City of Chicago will be front and center.
Posted by: Joe Bird | September 21, 2009 2:30 PM
I am all for a full and proper investigation of ACORN but I must admit that I am quite confused about how much attention this whole situation is getting. I understand that they are under investigation for voter fraud but is this situation any different really than the two elections before? Gore won the 2000 on popular vote and was robbed by the electoral college and any quick google search will show a laundry list of voter fraud accusations in 2004 against the Bush administration (especially in Ohio). This stuff happens every election. Should it be investigated? Yes. That said the organization should still be given due process. I do not watch Fox news so I guess I might not be as in the loop on this topic as some folks here but I must admit that I am a bit suprised that so much ruckus is being made over an organization that receives about $3 million from the federal government a year (peanuts in a several trillion dollar budget). It just kind of blows my mind that ACORN is drawing this much attention considering all of the other pressing topics out there. We could be seriously debating the billions and possibly trillions at stake in healthcare but we have to find anyway possible to stick it to anything that could trickle down to Barack. It amazes me how easily people can be manipulated.
Posted by: Joey B | September 21, 2009 2:32 PM
We're lucky to have one of the very few Senators with both intelligence and a backbone.
Posted by: Doug | September 21, 2009 2:35 PM
This goes to prove that Durbin and Obama and most of their buddies could not recognize waste, fraud, and corruption if it was right in front of their noses.
Posted by: eco3810 | September 21, 2009 2:38 PM
Durbin, our own Eddie Haskell.
Posted by: JoeoutWest | September 21, 2009 2:38 PM
If every federal contractor was treated in the way that ACORN has just been treated, there would be no federal contractors. If we're now to a point where anyone who does business with the government gets completely canned on the basis of wrongdoing by three or four employees at one location, we're pretty much sunk. And if not, then why is ACORN being singled out?
Posted by: DBX | September 21, 2009 2:42 PM
I don't believe the United States Congress is required to hold a trial when deciding to whom the taxpayer's money should be given. I believe the members are empowered to make such judgements using their intelligence, common sense, and experience. Apparently Senator Durbin and the six others do not feel they can rely on those factors with respect to themselves.
Posted by: Mike | September 21, 2009 2:48 PM
I have lived in chgo all my life and Durbin has always been known as the chief scum bucket of the world. no morals, no ethics. he will be thrown under the bus soon, they all will
Posted by: mommalu | September 21, 2009 2:48 PM
Agree Dick Durbin is a Total waste to Illinois and any Red Blooded American, for sure he has no creditability.
Posted by: Inky | September 21, 2009 2:48 PM
You've known all along what this organization was about, what its intentions were, and what they were capable of. Period. Now you, and everyone associated with this not only radical, but illegal organization is exposed and the usual guilty response is "shock"...or "surprise"...or the best "vast right-wing conspiracy"...remember, "Facts are stubborn things..."
Posted by: GiveitUp | September 21, 2009 2:49 PM
I'm not saying what those ACORN employees did was right. But it's too bad these self-righteous young conservatives didn't use hidden cameras to entrap all the Wall Street bandits whose irresponsible (and probably illegal) gambling caused a world financial collapse. The outrage at FOX NEWS over the ACORN scandal is so hypocritical.
Yes, these employees were encouraging illegal and even downright disgusting behavior. But given the deprivation they come from, it's no wonder they just want to get their share of the pie, like they see everybody else doing.
Posted by: lnbee
I can't help but shake my head at Inbee's rationalization for justifying tax evasion, fraud, and child prostitution - It's okay because everyone else is doing it.
He (she) also makes the assumption that ACORN employees "come from deprivation" , which further justifies their crime. Please show me ONE article, ONE video, ONE scrap of information that shows ACORN employees are "derprived".
I worked a full-time job while attending college, and I paid for it on my own. Maybe since I was "deprived" of a free college education, I should start stealing from my boss. Or maybe I should hold up a gas station.
After all, I just want "my share of the pie."
One last thing, Inbee. Do some research. James O'Keefe DID make a video on Wall Street Greed. It's called Bailout Prize Patrol. You can find it on YouTube.
Posted by: Dave | September 21, 2009 2:50 PM
Durbin is a pandering idiot!
How dare anyone with half a brain not see the ACORN vid and not scold them. He is pandering to his Don't Snitch Mentality base! Loser. Maybee Todd Stroger can hire him next
Posted by: jeff s | September 21, 2009 2:53 PM
This guy is one of the biggest blow hards in Congress and yet he continues to get re-elected. People need to wake up!!!
Posted by: Ashamed | September 21, 2009 2:55 PM
Good for Senator Durbin for not rushing to join the the flock of bleating sheep. We have too few profiles in courage any more.
Posted by: Frank Surge | September 21, 2009 2:56 PM
Where to begin? So many options! Durbin! What a waste of humanity!
He, alongwith all of his demorat ccronies in the House and the Senate and now the Whitehouse, have known about ACORN's corruption for decades and have done absoultely NOTHING about it!
And now he wants a trial for the hanging. He and his buddies have stopped investigations of ACORN, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for well over a decade in the House and Senate. So what in century would he and his buddies hold the trial? 32nd?
And then you have Barack NICHOLAE CARPATHIA Obama with this statement: ""I didn't even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money,'' the president said. (A little more than $50 million over 15 years.) "What I know is, is that what I saw on that video was certainly inappropriate and deserves to be investigated (but) this is not the biggest issue facing the country. It's not something I'm paying a lot of attention to.''
He doesn't know how much money his ACORN buddies get? To quote Joe Wilson: YOU LIE!"
And what BNCO saw on the video is only "inappropriate?" That is like saying that armed robbery is "unfortunate."
The Chicago corruption permeates this Whitehouse and the entire Congress starting with Nancy Pelousy and Duffus Reid.
Posted by: Don | September 21, 2009 2:59 PM
Dick Durbin represents Illinois well. Angry Republicans will do anything to drum up a controversy. Durbin is safe and Illinois and ACORN is welcome.
Posted by: Joe Hinton | September 21, 2009 3:00 PM
Dick Durbin won't talk or have anything to do with Roland Burris and I don't recall him having any kind of trial.
Ditto Blago.
Ryan? No hanging there after trial, just a clemency request from his old buddy Dick.
And now ACORN. Taxpayers be damned.
Durbin is a do nothing, know nothing, legislate nothing, bobbleheaded hack. He should retire, take his fat pension and write his memoir - all 200 empty pages of it.
Posted by: JB | September 21, 2009 3:08 PM
Thank the deities for guys like Dick Durbin.
Posted by: Cheryl | September 21, 2009 3:24 PM
Dick Durbin has been an "empty suit" since taking office. Why is this a surprise? Illinois voters are STUPID and until the electorate wises up and actually analyzes his uselessness, he'll be in office until he dies.
Posted by: NotSurprised | September 21, 2009 3:30 PM
"That hanging has been underway for some time now at FOX News, its commentators reveling in the video of two young conservative activists who posed as a pimp and a prostitute and carried a video-camera into ACORN offices. "
So if these would have been LIBERAl activists the journalist would not have a problem with them? I don't care how it wsa done or who did it. ACORN is a criminal enterprise. Even Al Capone did some good things. I do not want my tax dollars going to ACORN, and I will do everything I can to back whoever is running against Durbin.
Posted by: 1stMarDiv75 | September 21, 2009 3:32 PM
DaveK - explain why he then tried to stop Burris from getting into office and why he demanded Blago step down.
As far as I know neither of them have ever been convicted of a crime.
Oh and while you are at it explain why durbin also wrote a letter to get Ryan released early if u recall ryan was convicted.
DaveK you wrote:
While most of the posteriors here are content in making Durbin the butt of their comments, I think that the two principles involved are worthy of more detailed discussion:
1.) the traditional legal principle of being innocent until proven guilty; and 2.) the "urgency" on the part of some in Congress to strip federal funding from entities merely under investigation. My hope is that they will begin with Defense Contractors and the para-military security organizations that have proliferated in the past decade, though. These contracts are worth tens of billions of dollars in losses to the taxpayers. Get a sense of priority, people!
Posted by: MinisterR | September 21, 2009 3:34 PM
But, since Senator Durbin didn't read the health bill (too busy sitting in first row seats at a Cubs game), how would he bother to learn the evidence at the trial he speaks of?
Posted by: Joe Hosteny | September 21, 2009 3:37 PM
Durbin is pathetic. Who is he kidding, on the Dems watch there will be no trial just like there will be no action on tax cheat Charlie Rangel, but there will be a day of reckoning Mr. Durbin.
Posted by: vla | September 21, 2009 3:43 PM
"ACORN" is of course wingnut-speak for "Black people." Thus the enthusiasm for getting rid of an inconsequential organization.
Here's the real problem, folks: wipe out ACORN and your lives will still suh huck. This will not change any electoral results; it will not save any "real" money; IT WILL NOT PREVENT ANY MINORITIES FROM VOTING. Your juvenile foot stamping may make your sad worlds better for an instant, but in the big picture you Republicans once again accomplish nothing by knocking down a straw man.
Posted by: a blinkin | September 21, 2009 3:50 PM
Go, Senator Durbin and Senator Burris, both of you, have my votes !! You two may be the only two politicians in the whole state that are truly honest politicians !! The Republican-Libertarian crowd here in Illinois are lemmings, that follow the Pied Piper of Springfield !! Like their national brethren, a laugh a minute !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.
Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, IL | September 21, 2009 4:02 PM
"Tortured people to death"? Uhhh when did that happen?
Dick is that you or did Nancy Pelosi sneak in here?
But it doesn't bother me that the radical Islamists get some of their own pain. They are neither citizens, covered by any Geneva Convention rights, or even human beings. And from what I see they are treated better then there are back home anyway. Is there a reason their own countries don’t even want them back? Yes so they don’t even deserve to exist.
Oh wait we were talking about "Dick" Durbin. See above.
Posted by: Terry | September 21, 2009 4:04 PM
Read this link - this is one of the ways the great one got elected..
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122394051071230749.html
Posted by: BigbadSouthsideJim | September 21, 2009 4:06 PM
This is an article from last Oct. in the WSJ about Acorn and Obama links to Acorn..
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122394051071230749.html
Posted by: BigbadSouthsideJim | September 21, 2009 4:09 PM
having a trial before a hanging is always a good idea. I just hope Durbin leads the charge for getting the trial going, because based on the videos I have seen, most taxpayers won't want their money going to groups that support, and cover up, underage prostitutes.
Mr Durbin please start the trial ASAP, of course, I won't hold my breath for that trial. Its just a trick to divert attention away from a group Durbin enjoys the support of.
Posted by: Steve | September 21, 2009 4:13 PM
Durbin started his latest term by publicly calling for the release of the corrupt, swollen George Ryan. He then cashed in on inside information--from a Senate briefing--to sell stocks that were about to lose value. Next he was caught wielding "clout" to have the child of an associate leapfrog over more qualified kids to obtain a place in an elite Chicago Public High School. Now he wants to continue giving our tax money to an obviously corrupt and disfunctional "NGO." The trial analogy is a cynical joke. This is not about putting anyone in prison, although some ACORN people clearly belong there. It is about showering them with money extorted from hardworking taxpayers. We don't need a trial to withhold public monies from an organiaaztion under criminal investigation in 20 states.Durbin is just another corrupt Illinois politician.
Posted by: john p | September 21, 2009 4:22 PM
God for you, Sen. Durbin. It's time to take this country back from rednecks and racists.
Posted by: David V | September 21, 2009 4:28 PM
Senator Turban is a mirror-image reflection of the ACORN mouth-breathers, union goons and assorted thugs and sociopaths we know as the Illinois electorate. Turban represents these people exceptionally well.
If Chicago, Turban and his constituents were another country, they would be in the same class as any other tinhorn Central American socialist regime.
They are THE ENEMY and a danger to this country no matter where they reside.
Posted by: J in KC | September 21, 2009 4:32 PM
Terry, I provide links to documentation of those tortured to death. We're they too difficult for you to read?
However your vile comment shows that you are much of the ssame mind as the Nazis. Replace "radical islamicists" With "Jews" and your comment reads like a fine piece of Nazi propaganda. It is the hatefilled, bigoted mindset that you have that Durbin condemned. No wonder you hate him so. He has the courage to point out just how evil and debased people like you have become. You, and those who think like you, are a disgrace not only to the US, but to humanity. In that sense you are no different than the terrorists.
Posted by: Torture is wrong. Period. | September 21, 2009 4:32 PM
Dick Durbin is once again acting like a good little Chicago Democrat Machine politician, talking out of both sides of his mouth at the same time.
Durbin has always been the kind of political creature that has never taken a stand on anything unless it gives his Democrat party more power than it already has. So naturally he is going to come to the defense of a corrupt organization like ACORN, which has done all it can to insure than any liberal candidate will be elected to office. ACORN also has the added distinction of NEVER endorsing one Republican or conservative candidate in its entire sordid history.
Add to that the fact that Durbin is a complete disgrace as a Senator and needs to be voted out of office come next election.
Posted by: CGull | September 21, 2009 4:33 PM
not sure if mark silva was writing about acorn and durbin or his personal opinion on fox. give it a break mark and stick to the facts. obama not awarae of all at acorn but his campaign gave acorn almost $1 million. where i come from that is still a lot of money. durbin should be careful it might come to roost in his own house.
Posted by: george michaels | September 21, 2009 4:56 PM
Dick Durbin is not up for reelection until 2014, which is a lifetime in chicago politics. His thought is noone will remember how he voted way back in 2009. People you have to remember and vote accordingly. If Acorn is still around, they will go out and get all the homeless, black and illegals they can to vote for this mope again. He knows that and that's why he is going to support them until they no longer exist. Burris isn't an issue, his time in the sun is over, Durbin will make sure of that.
Posted by: Elizabeth | September 21, 2009 5:06 PM
It's hopeless that these politicians can do the right thing. O'Canada...
Posted by: GhettoMan | September 21, 2009 5:24 PM
Dipsh*t Durbin has been a pathetic elected official for many years. He rarely takes a stand without being told where to stand, and when he does it is wrong. How does voting to continue funding this questionable organization serve the interests of the citizens of Illinois and the country? Isn't that what he should be protecting and why he was elected? If this devious behavior was found at only one location by one or two employees I could understand. But this same behavior occurred at different offices in different states by different people, indicating that it is likely systemic and organized. It is funny that ACORN claims to be getting it's own investigation into this situation. This is the same organization and group of people who would be outraged if the police were conducting their own internal investigation into corruption within their ranks.
Posted by: Tired of Politics | September 21, 2009 5:34 PM
Durbin, GIVE IT UP MAN
Lets see you in the town meeting this week.
Posted by: PistolPete44 | September 21, 2009 5:36 PM
Oh come off it Durbin, do you really think the voters are that dumb to believe you anymore? Geez
Posted by: Darkwater | September 21, 2009 6:16 PM
We did not torture anyone to death. Keep making things up to boost your liberal agenda but most people are smarter than that. And most people don’t care if we did hurt a few of them to keep us safe. Keep up the good work!
Let me guess; you voted for Obama right? And Bush did nothing right correct? You probably like socialist healthcare also? 9/11 was an inside job wasn’t it?
Let's see the Jews were innocent people killed by a psycho leader so he could take over the world.
Hmm what the connection to fighting radical Islamist who will kill us at all cost?? If you can't live in the real world and not make things up maybe you should move to Canada, France, or maybe the South Pole. The U.S. has no place for radical thinkers like you. Bye bye and have a nice trip.
Posted by: Terry | September 21, 2009 7:08 PM
The Big Government-Media Complex…
NEA = Nefarious Expenditures on Agitprop!
http://bigchase.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/obey.jpg
ACORN: Child “Services” / Financial “Services” / “Voter” Registration ---Democrat Funded
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
Posted by: JupiterSuite | September 21, 2009 8:53 PM
"There are times when, no matter how much you like them, you need to throw one of your own off the bus. Democrats need to recognize that this is one of those times. There is no upside to defending the indefensible. All it does is throw your credibility after theirs." --Megan McAardle
To those defending this organization, please. It has been caught on tape five times (with more to come!) offering advice on how to evade the authorities while enslaving Salvadoran children as prostitutes.
As the WSJ kindly put it to other apologists, "There is no kind way to say what we think of this, but we will try to put it as gently as we can: Partisanship is well and good, but one ought to take care to observe some minimal standard of basic moral hygiene."
Posted by: JupiterSuite | September 21, 2009 8:56 PM
Terry. If we didn't torture anyone to death, why did the military write reports about the people that were tortured to death? Why were soldiers court martialed for torturing people to death? Was that all a liberal plot Terry? Is the military lying about what happened?
Your genocidal hatred of Muslims has made you blind to fact. Your bigotry has made you impervious to reason.
You would make a perfect little Nazi, blindly following the leaders orders to commit any atrocity against the "non-human" enemy. You are the radical Terry. You have embraced toture, You have embraced murder. You have embraced hate. The world has no room for dangerous hatefilled radicals like you and your soul mates in Al Qaeda.
Posted by: Torture is Wrong. Period. | September 21, 2009 9:46 PM
D'OH! It seems that Fox news didn't fact check the vids. In one case, the ACORN worker caught on tape reported possible trafficking to the police: http://tinyurl.com/mpo53g
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And in another, the worker who 'confessed' to killing her husband knew she was being duped and led the so-called investigative journalists on: http://mediamatters.org/research/200909160023
Way to go Fox! Yet another example of shoddy journalism and shilling for the right. Fair & Balanced my a@@.
Posted by: incognita | September 22, 2009 2:10 AM
Durbin is a political hack that cannot tell wrong from right. Although his qualifications and sense of judgement is normal for Illinois politiciians, don't we folks from Illinois owe our countrymen better than sending this ethically challenged baffoon to the US Senate?
Posted by: Mike C | September 22, 2009 10:41 AM
Hey "Mr. Torture",
You liberals are great for parsing or changing words to feed your dangerous agenda. I said RADICAL Islamists and not Muslims. With your bad spelling I don't think can read to begin with.
I am not a soldier so I follow no leaders to do anything. Again no one got tortured to death. If any radical Islamists did die from our military actions I'm sure they deserved it. We didn’t start this war. I'm sure there are individual soldiers or CIA agents that made mistakes and those get dealt with on an individual basis.
What I and most intelligent people are saying is that if a few enemies (people we have actually caught in the act of violence against us) get a little hurt or worse during interrogation then so be it. But I don’t consider that torture but what these people have brought upon themselves. They chose the life of violence and pain and it is the only language they understand.
And completely ironic you mention that I am like Al Qaeda because those are the people we do need to eradicate from the planet with ANY method possible. Maybe you are a member or supporter?
Posted by: Terry | September 22, 2009 11:57 AM
Genocidal Terry ,I'm sure that in your ignorant hatefilled mind that "radical islamists" equates to the entire populations of Palestine, Syria, Iran and most of the rest of the Muslim world, doesn't it? You've lumped the Iraqi General who was tortured to deth into the "Radical Islamicist" category, so clearly you aren't making verey precise judgements about what makes a muslim a "radical islamicist".
You can't think for yourself can you Terry? If the military killed them they must have deswrved it? That's some brilliant analysis there. I bet you the followers of Al Qaeda say to themselves "Well, If Osama thinks those americans in the towers deserve to die, they must deserve it. No need to think or analyze anything for myself." You'd fit in perfectly among them. You are as filled with murderous hate as they are. You, like them,want to slaughter the "enemy" by any means necressary. You are a radical. You are as radical as the islamists you claim to hate. You too are choosing a life of violence and pain, and are demanding that this nation chose policies of violence and pain. The world would be far better off without the radical like you and Osama spreading your joint creed of violence, pain and torture.
Posted by: Torture is wrong. Period. | September 22, 2009 12:27 PM
This Acorn nonsense is some more staged stooges of the Republican-Libertarians trying to muddy the waters, again !! Can't you discuss the merits of the issues instead of coming up with your side-shows, to distracted and misinform our country !! Blackwater and Haliburton have tricked this nation, via the Bush&Cheney tag team to the tune of 100s of Billions of Dollars and you want to focus the nation's attention on an organization that does good for its clients !! The Republican-Libertarian axis is a pathetic group of losers. They couldn't do right by this nation, even when they had full control of the entire governmental apparatus. They torpedoed any hope for this country, for at least the next 2 or 3 years. That is how long it will take just to get out from under Hurricane Bush&Cheney !! Thank God we don't have those morons, the Bush&Cheney fringe had in charge of The Dept. of Homeland Security and FEMA, when Hurricane Katrina hit !! If they were, the Ridge, " Brownie " and Chertoff gang, we wouldn't be out from all of the muck the Bush&Cheney fringe has left America, for at least a decade !!
At least with President Obama and Vice-President Biden, we have a chance of being clear of their nonsense in a lot less time.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.
Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, IL | September 23, 2009 9:16 AM