House censures Wilson: Party lines

Too bad Joe "the heckler" Wilson didn't call Obama - President Betrayus, because to the Repuglicans apparently THAT's beyond the pale.

Hey Repugs! Stand with Joe "the heckler" Wilson or stand with 78% of the country! Have fun with the wedge vote, Wingnuts!

And thanks for the meaningless flag-burning amendments! Oh, you think we forgot about that? Nah.

If a Democrat sneezes the wrong way, the Rs are screaming Holy Bloody Murder.

Just saw Wilson on the floor. He had the Zombie Tom Delay look in his eyes. Frightening. He's knows he looked like an idiot last week but he can't disapoint the nutty fringe Teabaggers who make up what's left of the Republican base - ha ha ha!

By refusing to apologize to Congress Wilson is trying to say he doesn't consider himself bound by rules of decorum and doesn't care whether he embarrasses it or not.

That may play well to the wingnut base but wait until he needs a co-sponsor to get anything done.

Nice job Wilson....you moron.

It's official...!

House Republicans think the office of the President should only be respected when the President is either white or a Republican
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Man, I sure wish the liberals would just follow the namesake of one of their organizations and just MOVE ON. There are dummies in all spectrum of the world from Wilson to Kanye West to Serena Williams. Move On and let's debate and come to a SOLUTION!

The Republican party has turned into a bunch of Limbaugh and Beck-like lunatics.

Dems vote on a resolution admonishing bad behavior.

Republicans bring concealed weapons to Presidential speeches.

Wilson also violated the GOP's own House rules.
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"A Member should avoid impugning the motives of another Member, the Senate or the President, using offensive language, or uttering words that are otherwise deemed unparliamentary." and "[I]t is not permissible to use language that is personally offensive to the President, such as referring to him as a “hypocrite” or a “liar.”
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Funny how the same media outlets screaming about Joe Wilson's stupidity were more than happy to interview those who heckled John McCain's speech at the RNC convention. And leave it to the Black Caucus to wave the race card. Pitiful. Yes it was a stupid and rude statement, but aren't there more pressing things to handle?

The thing that the House fails to understand is that our approval of their efforts is at an all time low, regardless of subject. What Joe Wilson said was nothing more than what was shouted at TV screens by the many average Americans last Wednesday evening as President Obama spoke. So go ahead and waste our tax dollars on this kind of grand standing. All you've accomplished is losing the support of a few more Americans.

President Bush, like him or not, had to endure booing and other bad behavior by the Dumbs that was never covered by the media. Now we've got the race baiters out to say it was because he is black. The reality is Wilson spoke the truth, even though inappropriately, apologized and we should all move on. Maybe somewhere in this debate O will tell the truth.

Republicans are domestic terrorists who are so fearful of losing their way of life, one in which corporations run the country, fund their campaigns, and stuff their back pockets. They'll say and do anything including showing blatant disrespect to the highest office in the land; as evidenced by Rep. Wilson. If they were intelligent enough they'd be embarrassed. Instead they stir hatred up among the poor uneducated rural white community to rally around their own fear of again, losing their way of life - which, fortunately, will end.

Why the double standard? It's ok for congressional Democrats to boo during a Bush speech but when a Republican does it is a breech of decorum.

For those that need a reminder of undisciplined breach of decorum see below:

TED KOPPEL (ABC host): When the president talked about the bankruptcy of Social Security, there were clearly some Democrats on the floor who thought that that was taking it too far. And they did something that, apparently, no one at this table has ever heard before. They booed.

[ABC, Nightline, 2/2/05; Koppel's panel consisted of former Bush adviser Mary Matalin, former Reagan chief of staff Ken Duberstein, and former Clinton speechwriter Michael Waldman]

So go ahead and waste our tax dollars on this kind of grand standing. All you've accomplished is losing the support of a few more Americans.

Posted by: Sue | September 15, 2009 6:12 PM
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I seem to remember a bunch of meaningless flag burning ammendents coming from your beloved Repug party the last eight years. Did you disapprove of that too?

What Wilson did was not only childish it was pathetic and the fact that the Wingnut clowns are making excuses for him tells anyone everything they need to know about the hypocrites who make up the GOP in 2009.

Bush was booed by Dems in 2005...and Obama was booed by Repubs last week, big deal. BUT Wilson's racist outburst was something altogether different, he was personally disrespting the President and he did it on National TV..

And Republicans are also using Pete Stark as an excuse?....except the they're really reaching with that one, especially when Stark made his comments on the House floor, NOT during a nationally and internationally televised speech where there are also dignitarys from other countries in attendence.

This is typical of the GOP, one of their members acts like flaming racist fool in public and instead of demanding an apology from him like everyone else has, they try to excuse his behavior by using any sort of false equivalency argument from the past that their little pea brains can come up with.

So go ahead and waste our tax dollars on this kind of grand standing. All you've accomplished is losing the support of a few more Americans.

Posted by: Sue | September 15, 2009 6:12 PM

Wilson broke the rules of the house and there for should be addressed. You wing nuts suggesting the House should just ignore their own rules defeats the purpose now doesnt it? And Sue, you guys spent gazillions impeaching Clinton for lying about his sex life and got absolutely nothing done for the country for two years using up our tax dollars! for his lying. Im not defending Clintons lies just the waste of tax payers time!
So yes lets move on but by the rules ok!
Oh and by the way here is the list of Republicans who voted yes on this matter:

Cao
Emerson
Flake
Inglis
Jones
Petri
Rohrabacher

John, Terry, Bruce and Teresa, we all know you're going to say that they're not really Republicans but heck who is anymore!!

It's amazing...really! Republicants are now using the "we have more pressing matters, so let's just chalk this up to exuberance" excuse.

I recall the lead singer of the DIxie Chicks making a comment about President Bush after he started a war that was not needed. SHE WAS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, but vilified by politicians and Republicants who made death threats and boycotted the group. They reacted with such hate and demanded that she move out of the country.

It seems that duplicity is now the dress they wear so well. Change the elephant to a snake and you will have a more fitting symbol.

Republicants...those who want more than they deserve and blame others for the mistakes they make.

Is it any surprise that speaking the truth is considered to be 'making the House look bad'?

Ha ha.

It defies belief that with a history of corruption and ineptness in Congress, these people consider THIS to somehow 'besmirch Congress'.

What a joke.

`...breach of decorum and brought discredit to the House.'' Really???

The real discredit are these fools wasting our country's time and money on this nonsense. They need to look back at Reid's and Pelosi's statements during the Bush years to see what real "decorum" is like.

When does Nancy apologize to the CIA?

Wilson makes me proud that I didn't vote Republican this time.

So what. It's a censure. If he didn't do anything wrong, then why did he apologize to the President? Someone has to maintain decorum in Congress. And that someone is Congress. Take the slap on the wrist and move on. If nothing is done, the next speech by the President will be a free-for-all. Not sure if that will more entertaining or embarrassing.

Isn't it republicans who argue it's all about logic & not emotion or passion?

The funniest line in this article is the comment by Rep. Clay: "He made the institution [Congress] look bad.''

Hell, Congress has been looking pretty bad for a long time!

I just sent a check for Joe's re-election campaign. The hyprocrisy Pelosi displays is silly.

Former Republican,

You're typical of the Democratic Party; call anyone who disagrees with Obama or any black politician a racist.

Worse, if you're a black Republican, then Democratic leaders say RACIALLY tinged attacks are FAIR because you're a Republican (as was said about Steele).

An angry white out of shape conservative Republican male from the prominent slavery state of South Carolina heckling the first African American president in Congress while he is addressing the nation and Congress. Oops, he meant to say it anonymously from under the cover of his hooded white sheet.

Joe "the heckler" Wilson is not only a racist, he's a LIAR:
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As bad as Republican Joe "the heckler" Wilson's behavior was during Pres Obama's speech last week, look on the bright side -- at least he wasn't carrying a sign that said "Obama = Hitler", or a loaded rifle, like the rest of the goons who make up what's left of todays Republican party do when they go to health care townhall meetings.

Then again, rather than look at the bright side, just donate to Rob Miller - Joe "the heckler" Wilson's 2010 opponent. Thus far Rob is raising close to $1K per minute. Let's keep that momentum going!
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http://www.actblue.com/page/kossacks4miller
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Uh uh Mr Wilson.
Uh uh Mr Heath.

When you don't have an argument, yell "racist".

Ha ha!

Obama WAS lying, which is why he issued a statement FRIDAY saying an eligibility verification process would be in a health care reform bill (which Democrats twice had previously voted down).

Now, Rep. Gutierrez (D-IL) is blasting Obama for making it harder for illegals when Obama himself said it was a 'lie' that health care reform would cover illegals.

A White House official responded to Gutierrez's criticism by saying "The President has been clear since the campaign that he does not intend for health insurance reform to cover undocumented immigrants."

It appears the Democrats should THANK Wilson for helping Obama keep a campaign promise.

This is only the start of it all.Nothing can change the shape of things to come !

Bryan,

You're behind the curve. The Congressional Research Service, the "research arm" of the US Congress said a proclamation that illegals would not be covered was pretty much meaningless because HR 3200 didn't require verification procedures (like other federally funded programs, including Medicaid).

That's why on FRIDAY, Obama released a statement saying any health care reform would have an eligibility verification process (which the Democrats had previously voted down for HR 3200).

Why is it that so many know so little?

Congress needs to censure Wilson to avoid setting a precedence for letting it slide... if they don't censure him they are opening the door to having Taiwan or Korea style sessions, where the loudest and the meanest rules.

This is the last straw, I've had it with the childish actions of the Republican party. I'm never voting for a Republican again for as long as I live.

Regarding the list of words that are now clearly racist and cannot be leveled at or near His Excellency, add:

"Liar."

Please make note of the new rule, adding this to your handbooks so as not to make this mistake again.

Democrats, however, may continue to impugn Republicans in any forum, public or private, as before; as was the case throughout the Bush presidency as evidenced in the '05 State of the Union Address, where boos and catcalls were the Dem norm for decorum.

Said: "If you misrepresent what's in the plan, we will call you out." - B.O.

Implied: "If you attempt to call us out, we will censure you."

If anyone should know about lying it is a Republican. After all they lied to start a war, They lied about the supposed "death panels", and they lied about being fiscally responsible while they were in charge of the government. To all those conservatives who are upset about them Democrats being in charge. You only have yourself to blame. After all if you had not run the country into the ground, the people would not have voted you out of power. Unfortunately rather than learn from it and improve, you have decided it is better to throw temper tantrums and behave like little children.

This is what Congress does most of the time. They have to have order and rules. The rules have to be enforced. When they are broken, there must be consequences.

Wilson's apology was anything but. He went out and bragged about it and did fund raising off of it and repeated his lies over and over. His excuse about being passionate on behalf of his town hall speakers was worse than lame. He should not be scaring them about losing Medicare benefits if health reform passes.

I just saw where one of his town halls was held in D-Clyburn's district without telling Clyburn. That's a pretty nasty breach of decorum and comity there as well. No wonder Clyburn was mad and pushed the resolution. Good for him.

Wilson is arse and has been for a long time.

YOU LIE, JOE WILSON!

Yet they continue to let scumbag tax evader Rangel continue to be in charge of the Ways & Means Committee so Nancy won't offend the Black Caucus. That certainly a legislative body that values decorum and integrity.

I do believe that blacks too often cry "racism" for no reason. But this time, unfortunately, they are right. Can it really be true that this ugly incident just "happened" to the first black president, and by a well-known race-baiting Congressman from -- admit it, folks -- one of the most racist states in America? The rules of decorum and civility in the halls of Congress go back to our nation's founding. No other president was EVER so insulted in the House. And let's be honest here -- if any president ever deserved to be publicly called a liar, it was George "Weapons of Mass Destruction" Bush.

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If you misrepresent what's in the plan, we will call you out." - B.O. mplied: "If you attempt to call us out, we will censure you."

Posted by: Everything's Racist | September 15, 2009 8:05 PM
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Here's an idea Teresa,

If you Wingnuts don't want to be called racists - then QUIT BEING RACISTS!

"Obama heckler Joe Wilson a member of neo-Confederate SCV, fought to keep Dixie flag flying in South Carolina"
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http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/obama-heckler-joe-wilson-member-neo

And quit playing the victim, it's laughable and no one believes you liar Rethugs anyway.

What Wilson did is not only pathetic and, unfortunately, typical of todays Republican party, it's also against House rules which means he deserved to be censored.

Wilson was also lying (big surprise!). There has been no proposal--not the President's, not the House, not the Senate, not the Democratic Party--to cover illegal immigrants.

Wilson is a liar. He apologized for "incivility"...but, he hasn't apologized for LYING!

Funny:

Jones rightfully admonished for his "verbal" display of disrespect.

However, Dodd and Rangel overlooked for "real" indiscretions (sweetheart loan deal from failed Countrywide and failure to report $1 million of taxable income , respectively)

Someone please explain.

So when Pelousy lies on the House floor about the CIA, it is okay. When Barney Frank lies on the House floor about his protection of ACORN, FANNIE and Freddie, it is okay?

Also I get a kick out of the idoits on this blog saying that Wilson made a racist remark. Where in the words: "YOU LIE" is there any trace of racism?

Maybe the real racists are those who are falsely accusing others of racism. Did it ever occur to anyone that the true racists are Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Charlie Rangel?

Who has done more to keep their own people down than Jesse Jackson? His crusade despite what he says has only been about making him wealthy.

Racism can cut both ways.

WILSON IS A LOSER!

The Democratic congress can't stand these outburst in their drive toward Obama Socalism.

Rep. Wilson apologized for shouting "You Lie!"

When will Obama apologize for lying?

Rep. Wilson apologized for shouting "You Lie!"

When will Obama apologize for lying?
Or not even apologize, but at least stop lying?

Throw your shoes at a President - go to jail because he was just protesting a war.

Call a President a liar - become a hero because he's protesting... Exactly what was he protesting?

Illegal immigrants? Surely they can't be a drain on this county because when Bush was in office, illegal immigrants were necessary for this country's economy. Who else, he said, would pick our strawberries?

MCD: Nice post. Oh the irony of it all.

Go get 'em, Gutierrez! Just don't use the L-word on him, even though Dems voted down every Republican atttempt for verification for illegals when it comes to Universal Free Healthcare.

JDHD: So which is it? Are there rules of decorum which were violated under BHO but these violations are acceptable whilst GWB is addressing the nation? The only reason you couldn't hear "liar" during GW's SOTU was that so many Dems were hollering all at once. You Dems have to learn to take turns when you are heckling your Potus.

"Congress needs to censure Wilson to avoid setting a precedent"

I guess you didn't know a precedent HAD been set when Democrat Pete Starke called Bush a liar from the House floor.

Why is it that so many know so little?

You know what makes the House look bad.......when the House has more balls more fortitude and determination to act swiftly....when it comes to naming streets, or "admonishing" one of it's own (after he apologized and the apology was accepted to boot) than actually withdrawing troops, fixing social security, immigration, or passing real health reform. I'm so proud of the ground breaking block party that has become the Democrats in Congress. This resolution has victory all over it. I would also like a resolution passed to publicly rebuke the treatment of Taylor Swift at the WMA's and one addressing our Presidnet's attempt to inject himself into yet another local (this time celebrity) incident by calling Kanye a jacka-- (sorry Silva) off the record. We can file most of these ground breaking public rebukes under the Michael Jackson resolution. Way to go Congress! Create a mountain out a mole hill where it does not exist and then boldly move against it to show how proactive you really have been. All this time. I don't understand why we can't replace Pelosi with Oprah.

Community Organizer,

WRONG!

HR 3200 did not have any eligibility verification requirement (concerning coverage of illegals).

And what is really telling is the Democrats TWICE voted down amendments to have a verification of eligibility mechanism put in (like other federally funded programs have, including Medicaid).

The ignorance of so many Democrats is amazing. I guess that's what Obama was counting on.

Inky,
Shouldn't you be a out Teabagging right now?
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Uh uh Mr Wilson.
Uh uh Mr Heath.
Posted by: Kenny Bunkport | September 15, 2009 7:31 PM


More proof that Mr. Bunkport is.....
ENGLISH!!
This cannot be tolerated!
Please, Sir!, disappear into your grey cloud of 2-cycle troll smoke!

When will Ms. Pelosi apologize for calling the CIA liars? And when will she be held accountable?

i applaud the dems for reprimanding a member of the right wing whose actions are similar to that of a child. i hope the right wing will stop the vile rhetoric and stop trying to divide america thru hatred and fear. america has deep issues that need to be solved and demogoguery does not help anyone

Why has the racism card been waved so much? Are all the liberals saying that it is a known fact that only black people lie and therefore it was a racist statement?

Everyone is acting like this is the first time something like this happened. Where did the last 8 years go or heck, the last 200? I've watched CSPAN. Politicians yell, insult, gasp - LIE, doze, and snore their way through their jobs. I am getting tired of this "holier than thou" act. Suck it up, grow thicker skin, or in the very least don't act like we are all dumb and have missed the last thousand years of politicians to grace this earth. If they suddenly all decide to do their jobs then great. But acting like things were peachy until this guy's outburst is something way too many of you are falling for just for the sake of sticking up for your guy. Just makes you sound naive.

You defenders are pathetic. First of all the CIA did lie. Secondly, Booing has been going on for decades. Thirdly, no Democrat EVER called out 'You Lie' during any Bush speach knowing very well that everything out of his mouth was a lie. And finally, oh never mind, lying and distorting and BS rhetoric is all you know how to do. Cant teach an old dog new tricks but we can certainly vote them out into the pasture!! Freekin yo yo's!!

Rep. Fortney Stark said that Pres. Bush was sending young men over to Iraq to get their heads blown off for his amusement and the "ethical" Democrat Congress voted down a measure to censure him. Also, San Fran Nan allows Tax Cheatin' Charlie Rangel to remain as the Chairman of the tax writing Ways and Means Committee.
Fine, upstanding examples of what it means to be a Democrat.

To former Republican:

Bush was booed by Dems in 2005...and Obama was booed by Repubs last week, big deal. BUT Wilson's racist outburst was something altogether different, he was personally disrespting the President and he did it on National TV..

Where was the RACISM in this?

Bad form for sure, but pulling the race card is total BS. We will all get sick of that super fast.

Obama is the President and will be questioned in the future, booed, and disagreed with and none of it will be because he is black, it's because he is the President and not everyone agrees with the job he is doing, no matter what his skin color is.

While I agree that Wilson's outburst was wrong, it absolutely PALES in comparison to the blatant disrespect that many democrats demonstrated towards former President Bush. I can't recall all the times that he was heckeled, and the silly and immature expressions and eye-rolling caught on camera by Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi to name a few! I commend Obama for how he handled the situation, but I am thoroughly disgusted by the liberal dems in the House.

He made the institution look bad,'' said Rep. William Lacy Clay. This coming from the same group that elected Nancy Dimiwit as their leader.

The Congressional Black Caucus who said Wilson's outburst was a sign of disrespect of the nation's first African American president. Would it have been OK if the president was white? Would the Congressional Black Caucus have objected?

And when you have absolutely nothing say this "I guess we'll probably have folks putting on white hoods again,'' Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.).

"Wilson has become a hero to the right" and a bogeyman to the left.

The wingnuts in this thread once again show their mentality. Joe Wilson talks about the business of Congress. Tell me- how long does it take to stand up in the House and say, "I'm sorry"?

This action by Congress is just plain wrong. He apologized.

I am shocked at what Jimmy Carter said about this being an act of racism. The congressman is a conservative and doesn't think that we should be expanding government. Where is Carter coming from with his comment? I would expect Al Sharpton to say something like this, but not Jimmy Carter

Wilson brought "discredit to the House" but apparently Charlie Rangel hasn't. The Democrats sure have their priorities straight, don't they?

Disrespecting our Commander-In-Chief the wilson did is an act of TREASON. wilson should be jailed for the duration of President Obama's terms in office.

Medicare does not check for illegal aliens. They actually tried to verify peoples' citizenship a few years ago and what happened? -- people here legally got denied benefits for not having the proper "paperwork". Our country has so many "statuses" that the verifications they are talking about can punish the legal immigrants.

HR3200 has the adequate language necessary to keep illegals from getting tax subsidies. Everything else falls under our Immigration Policy and doesn't belong in the healthcare debate.

members of the Congressional Black Caucus, who said Wilson's outburst was a sign of disrespect of the nation's first African American president.

`I guess we'll probably have folks putting on white hoods again,'' Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) said. ``That's the logical conclusion if this kind of attitude is not rebuked.''

I guess if you don't have ideas or logic to defend your
position, you cry racism? What, tell me, is so "progressive" about progressives?

COURTMARTIAL

There is a difference between Rep's & Dem's. Rep's hold EVERONE accountable for their actions or words. Dem's attack any Rep they don't like or feel threatend by.
Nixon Had to Go!!
Ford Goof Ball
Carter A worse Goof Ball
Regan A True American
Bush the 1st I lost faith in him when He said "Read my lips, no new taxes" and then he raised them.
Clinton On Natioinal Televsion, "I did not have sexual relations with..." the biggest lie ever The Dem's got their nose out of joint on that one.They were embarrassed,
George W Bush The Dem's have called him a Liar many times on the Congress floor, even Booing him.
Obama The "Chicago Way President" firering an Auto CEO, increasing the deficet more than all the Presidents before him combined. As for health coverage of Illegal Aliens in this country. there is a loop hole in the House bill to cover that just like in the city of Chicago. Bottom line, Wilson Called the President out on Lying and he was right

Wow...for such a looser as you Libs state he is...you might want to look at the campaign contributions he has been getting. He is ahead of his challenger. Good luck next election :)

Why, oh WHY is it never mentioned that BO is mixed race? He, by all accounts of the truth, is NOT black. He is not white. He is MIXED RACE! And his comments about the police acting stupidly show he has no better control of moronic outbursts than Wilson. He is also covering the fact that government is rooting into everything with talk of do goodness and inspriational speeches. You liberals need to wake up and see the damage being done to this country with your coddling of criminals, diversity brainwashing and spending that makes Bush look like a penny pincher. The trail of hidden agendas behind BO is huge, but liberal dems refuse to see whats really happening. Soon it will be too late, and the entire country will be run just like Chicago, where BO learned his tricks of the trade.

A agree 100% with Don (sept 15th.)

`I guess we'll probably have folks putting on white hoods again,'' Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) said. ``That's the logical conclusion if this kind of attitude is not rebuked.''


Sorry Hank, but I'm not seeing the logic here. Help me find the necessary link between overtly challenging the veracity of the president's factual assertions, and the color of his skin.


Statements like this one are proof positive that the Democrats are losing the debate, not to mention their composure. Dems routinely play the race card, but when they do so without even a shred of connection to the issue under discussion, that's not a good sign.

I guess if you don't have ideas or logic to defend your
position, you cry racism?

Posted by: JD | September 15, 2009 11:41 PM

I agree. Glenn Beck's pathetic cries of racism clearly show that he has no ideas, and that he is unable to debate issues on their merits. Instead he plays the race card.

`I guess we'll probably have folks putting on white hoods again,'' Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) said. ``That's the logical conclusion if this kind of attitude is not rebuked.''

LOGICAL CONCLUSION?!?!?! ARE YOU *&%*ING KIDDING ME?!?!?!?! You lie = KKK?!?!?!

Logical conclusion if you're a race-baiting liberal . . .

Community Organizer,

WRONG!

HR 3200 did not have any eligibility verification requirement (concerning coverage of illegals).

And what is really telling is the Democrats TWICE voted down amendments to have a verification of eligibility mechanism put in (like other federally funded programs have, including Medicaid).

The ignorance of so many Democrats is amazing. I guess that's what Obama was counting on.

Posted by: MCD | September 15, 2009 9:32 PM
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Do you know why it was voted down??? Because HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars have been spent enforcing Medicaid not be given to Illegal immigrants and only 8 cases have been caught since the programs inception. So being GOOD stewards of taxpayer dollars, Democrats don't see the wisdom in spending HUNDREDS of BILLIONS more enforcing a problem that doesn't exist.

Even if one does not agree with the President, the outburst was so disrespectful, so the rebuke was a good decision.