Obama: Lies, trust, action - 'tis season

It seems if you are going to write about the integrity and honesty, you should have integrity and honesty yourself. The way Krauthammer plays "slight of hand" with the facts on most of the matters he addresses is disengenuous to say the least. I'm not saying kill the messenger, I'm saying one should verify what the messenger is saying before acting on the message.

I also wish he'd stop playing William F Buckley. He does an extremely poor job of it and he's in way over his head.

Another poll reference and still no Rasmussen report from Bruce......puzzling.

Obama passes a trustworthy test? I doubt it.
I wouldn't trust obama to run a lemonade stand. He's shown his incompetence, his policies have divided this country more than it was and he lies incessantly, yet the press says nothing.
IE campaign financing, lobbyists, earmarks, fixing washington, bipartisianship etc.
To say this guy is trustworthy is almost comical.
ANYONE BUT OBAMA, 2012

We need a change, this time, let's make it a change for the better!

"Speaking of Jimmy Carter: He attempted to speak some truth this week, too, and was roundly denounced for lying about the motivation behind the most extreme criticism for the president, the inability of people to accept the fact that a black man is president."

There's just so many times you can play the race card. It's become so common for the Left to trot out this tired old canard, it's lost its impact.

Given that Krauthammer swallowed the whole WMDs-in-Iraq BS, I'd say his ability to detect a lie is minimal at best.

Seems like you put the wroing title on this article. Based on the data you provide, his trustworthiness as well as his popularity is sliding. That's because more people are starting to figure out who this guy really is -- he's Obama:

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Krauthammer's not trustworthy.

Obama passes a trustworthy test? Are you joking? He’s from Chicago you idiot! Let’s see Obama was raised in Hawaii and went to school in Cambridge Ma. Why did he settle in Chicago? For the dirty politics!

BO keeps talking about how "his" plan will do this, and how "his" plan won't do that, etc. To my knowledge, BO hasn't submmited any plan at all to congress.

I think healthcare reform ought to be done within a framework setup by the government, properly incentivized to drive the changes desired, eliminate barriers to competition and let the free market drive the results.

So, will the big media provide equal time to counter BO's commercials?

Tracy @ 1:01PM, you said "Given that Krauthammer swallowed the whole WMDs-in-Iraq BS, I'd say his ability to detect a lie is minimal at best."

Then you must be going absolutely nuts then over what the Democrats said:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

Trustworthy?? Got ACORN?

You must be taking the Koolaid by IV rather than by mouth. Fifty-six percent of the people do not believe him when he speaks about Obamacare -- and that is AFTER his wonderful lecture last week. Perhaps shots of Koolaid would help you forget the ever mounting heap of evidence while you slump into your pro-Obama coma.

It's truly amusing to see people stand up and scream that Obama is Hitler, ought to be assassinated and call him names that would make a truck diver blush and then say that he hasn't brought the country together the way he ought to.

Krauthammer was head cheerleader for the Iraq war--a massive, costly blunder that our own intelligence people say made us less safe--and all based on a pack of lies.

I think Krauthammer is too distracted to do a good job as a columnist, he's still looking for WMDs.

BHO is trying to do the right thing even if it is wrong at this time. I lived in Canada and experienced their health care and for 95% of the times it was just fine. That was sometime ago and talking to my friends in CDN things are not so great now. One of the problems is that a lot of their Docs left for the states for bigger bucks.
We should move towards system that does provide for people that are laid off, poor folks, or work for companies that do not provide health care.
This is going to cost. We will have to pay more in taxes - so what - it is money well spent.
BHO has got to tell the truth - it is a moral deal nothing else and having said that just lay it out the way it is going to be rather than walking around the truth.

To say this guy is trustworthy is almost comical.
ANYONE BUT OBAMA, 2012We need a change, this time, let's make it a change for the better! Posted by: noneoftheabove | September 18, 2009 12:39 PM
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Teresa,
So who are the Repugs going to win with in 2012? Plastic Mitt the Flip Flopper? Mickey Huckleberry? Palin? Joe "the heckler" Wilson?.....Ha Ha Ha!

You Wingnuts aren't going to be winning any elections with only 20% of the electorate in your corner.
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/the-incredible-shrinking-gop-only-one-in-five-self-identify-as-republican/

Try a new post name, will ya?

Silva, why not turn in your resignation and go apply for a job with your idol? Gibbs is such an amateur, he can't last much longer. Seems like you have the requisite qualification of being a slobbering sycophant.

Obama is nothing more than a well-dressed snake oil salesman. He is a smart one, but that is what he is.

His ability to morph the facts is amazing, and the majority of the American people, rightly, don't believe anything he says.

You are a tool, my friend.

Obama is EVERY bit as "Honest" as Bill Clinton when Billy looked DIRECTTLY into the camera and said " I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH "THAT" WOMAN." The lie and/or PREMEDITATED falsehood are indeed one and the same. Both Bill AND Barry seem to think Not Getting Caught is the same as telling the truth.

Thankfully we have the media to keep telling us that not getting caught IS the same as telling the truth.

In a nuanced world, a nuanced description of things is necessary. It is nice to have a president who recognizes that the truth is not easily made into a headline

I really hope Mary's reference to koolaid isn't what I think it is.. that would be an ignorant thing to say.

The mounting heap of evidence points to the fact that those without healthcare coverage are 40% more likely to die than those with it. I really hope anyone against coverage availability to ALL citizens doesn't have a relative who does freelance work or lost their job or works from home.

So if I haven't already made myself clear, healthcare should be available to ALL AMERICANS!!

Gawd, what other things are Republicans going to be driven to, in their deep depression over having a president who's from a different party and has different priorities and is BLACK!? If they were willing to ask for teenager's weewee measurements (Mark Foley), have diaper sex with hookers (David Vitter) and solicit gay airport bathroom sex during the good times (Larry Craig), I can't imagine what they'll be driven to do in their current despair. If we pass an energy bill, will John Boehner be found overdosed on crack after an all-night, five-hooker session in a Washington hotel? If America gets real health care reform, will Newt Gingrich then be photographed naked riding a donkey through a Montessori school at recess?

Now that "I've just been so depressed since my state was forced to take federal funding in order to help unemployed people and our school system" is a good excuse for getting kicked out of the house by your wife, swiping a state vehicle, abandoning your job as governor and booking a flight to Argentina for a ten-day bars'n'sex romp (Mark Sanford), I can't imagine what the heck could be next. Given how much they go on about marrying dogs (Rick Santorum), ducks and turtles, though (John Cornyn), I think the repeal of DOMA could well result in a million-conservative march to the everglades for the world's largest freshwater orgy.

You know what Krauthammer thinks before he writes it, he's got the repub hand-book memorized, just like a lot of the clowns on this board.

The Big Health Insurance Lobby-Republican Puppets, who are using aggressive, foaming at the mouth tactics to shut down the possibility of a political discussion on healthcare in this country are reminiscent of the anti-desegregation movement, a point that becomes noteworthy when you aggregate the motives of the Wingnut "birthers", who loudly deny Obama's citizenship, the Wingnut "teabaggers", who loudly declare that the same taxes they paid under Bush are tyrannical under Obama, the Wingnut "deathers", who loudly assert that healthcare reform is secret plot to euthanize seniors and others that the government deems unproductive.

None of these positions makes a damn bit of sense or has any evidence to back it up, but in large part it is the same group of hard-right nutjobs, almost entirely white conservatives that believes all three at once. If you believe the Repug shouters themselves, in their own words, the healthcare debate isn't about healthcare but about a conspiratorial government and the end of the Republic.

This is, by definition, a far-right position, and less charitably a batsh*t insane one, and that it has managed to make it so far and be featured so prominently is testament to just how completely the farthest of the far right has captured the Republican party and why they can't win elections anymore.

These people are pathetic excuses for human beings.
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Hey, I still trust the President. It's a relief that amongst all the children throwing tantrums there's an adult to keep it cool. Also, yes Acorn's got some serious problems, but there are far greater ones that shouldn't be ignored at the same time.

Wow, the paranoia and pointless dismissal of President Obama merely & clearly indicates that a sizable chunk of our fellow citizens are not rooted in reality. How can any leader be blamed for serious problems when they've only been in office 9 months and have piles of catastrophes to fix first?

Turn off your TV & computer and talk to some real human beings, esp. if they disagree with you.

are you crazy no one pass the trustworthy test from chicago who gave the test ACORN

Krauthammer is a scum bag. He is the epitomy of what is wrong with America. He twists the truth and makes us believe; in other words, he is a pathological liar!

He's only a good speaker (which is not the same as a good communicator) when the teleprompter's on. When he's speaking off the cuff, he hems and haws, can't put an idea together, and makes grammatical mistakes my seven-year-old doesn't make. He reads well outloud, essentially. We still don't know what the details of the health care plan are after his promises about being transparent in his speech to Congress. Instead, he just stated his goals. I don't trust a word he says (though i don't trust many politicians because of the nature of the job).

Charles Krauthammer - bitter, nasty, and consumed by hatred.

Joe Wilson is just a dumb arse....Krauthhammer is worse than that.

He's only a good speaker (which is not the same as a good communicator) when the teleprompter's on. When he's speaking off the cuff, he hems and haws, can't put an idea together, and makes grammatical mistakes my seven-year-old doesn't make. He reads well outloud, essentially. We still don't know what the details of the health care plan are after his promises about being transparent in his speech to Congress. Instead, he just stated his goals. I don't trust a word he says (though i don't trust many politicians because of the nature of the job).

I think Mark Silva is campaigning for the job of Senior Cabana Boy for the Obama family.

You Obama haters are obviously on the Faux/ElRushbo/Beck koolaid. It's especially obvious after 8 yrs of Bush/Cheney -- the worst admin EVER. In fact, if you voted for Bush, STFU.

It's always fun when somebody on the right like Krauthammer or Wills brings up someone to quote. They usually throw off a little description like 'Harvard Economist' or 'respected CEO'. A few minutes research, however, always reveals that the individual quoted as a definitive source is just as much slanted towards the right wing lunatic fringe as the authors themselves.

In this case we have Greg Mankiw. Two second's research reveals that from 2003 to 2005, Mankiw was the chairman of President Bush's Council of Economic Advisors.

Can we honestly saw that this individual has no horse in this race? That he has no reason to make Obama seem like he doesn't understand the brilliance of George Bush's economic strategies? He aided and abetted George Bush in his blind and idiotic policies that lead, directly and indirectly, to the disasters of last year.

Nice try, Chucky, but a little more info makes it very clear that this is just another exercise in sour grapes. And as for the President 'misdirecting, implying and misleading', what does Krauthammer call it when he quotes a man in an article about politics without mentioning his past political ties? I call it lying.

Goodness, why are all you people here questioning Mark Silva and his 'god,' Obama? This is the Lib-Trib. Only praise here, please. Truth can be located at other locations. Praise here.

Really, the Repubs have NO ROOM to criticize a Democrat president on the "trustworthy" issue.

I give you Watergate. I give you Iran-Contra (and before that secret deals for hostages). I give you "Read My Lips, No New Taxes." And I give you war of choice in Iraq - the home of WMDs and someone who's just crazy enough to use them.

Of course, the REAL issue isn't trustworthiness with the Repubs. As ALWAYS, it's about the MONEY.

If Obama had lied about upholding the U.S. Constitution or deals with American hostage-takers or evil dictators, he'd be okay.

But he's been sniffing after the money. George Herbert Walker WENT after that and lost. Clinton may have wagged a finger from one hand, but as long as he wasn't sniffing after the money the Repubs didn't care what he was doing with the other hand. So he won a second term.

Stay away from the money! That's the real Republican/Dollar worshippers' issue.

He doesnt lie? HA!
Here is an example (of many): President Training Wheels said "If you make under $250,000 a year your taxes will not go up one single dime". Then he immediately slapped a $1.00 tax on cigarettes.
I certainly do not make $250,000 a year but I smoke.
Oh.. I get it.. it went up "one single dollar" not "one single dime"
Where I am from, we call that a lie...

Does anyone else notice how the race card is thrown out ONLY when one speaks out against the direction that the USSA is going? Yet racism is never thrown out when explaining why some people continually support the messiah, no questions asked. RACISM GOES BOTH WAYS.

"Speaking of Jimmy Carter: He attempted to speak some truth this week, too, and was roundly denounced for lying about the motivation behind the most extreme criticism for the president, the inability of people to accept the fact that a black man is president."

There's just so many times you can play the race card. It's become so common for the Left to trot out this tired old canard, it's lost its impact."

also Chuck Krauthammer:

"Obama communicates. Joe Wilson hates that, so let me defend Wilson. And while I defend Wilson, let me bring up everything I hated about Clinton, because he communicated, too. And that dude won a second term."

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He's only a good speaker (which is not the same as a good communicator) when the teleprompter's on. When he's speaking off the cuff, he hems and haws, can't put an idea together, and makes grammatical mistakes my seven-year-old doesn't make. He reads well outloud, essentially. We still don't know what the details of the health care plan are after his promises about being transparent in his speech to Congress. Instead, he just stated his goals. I don't trust a word he says (though i don't trust many politicians because of the nature of the job).

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I'll bet you Repug morons can't name ONE President in the last 35 years who didn't use a teleprompter....that's because there hasn't been one. And all of them used them ALL of the time. Do you know how many times W. lost his place and forgot his words - WITH a teleprompter? Ha Ha Ha!

W. used one all the time, it's not our fault that you Wingnutters elected a mental midget like him who can't read.

Obama and Bill Clinton are great communicators. Bush was a dry drunk whom Republicans wanted to have a beer with. :-)
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These numbers are why Obama still has the upper hand in the reform debate. He has the ability to win the fight over message and get a majority of the public - who already want some sort of reform - on board with a specific proposal.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

It's amazing how little actual intelligence it takes to pass onesself off as an "intellectual" on to the Right nowadays. Krauthammer and Gingrich intellectuals? They may have some native intelligence, but by virtue of their intellectual and political dishonesty they have given up any right to be considered in the company of someone like Goldwater. I used to think that George Will was a worthy heir, but some of his recent columns and comments, such as his views on Global Warming, have started a slide to the Gingrich hypocrisy level.

Krauthammer is terrified that the Repug/Neocon paradigm of eternal conflict and demonization will be replaced by peacemakers (Obama) that want equity for all and to live harmoniously. The intelligence, patience and skill required for effective diplomacy is utterly beyond these simplistic bullies comprehension.

Macho chickenhawk Repug schmucks like him equate peace with weakness, in reality, advocacy of peace and forbearance are great strengths and inflexible ideologues like him who batter the world community into submission with their self centered interest are the cowards.

That's what all of this nonsense is about to him...Get the hell out of the way Charles, as we will rebuild what you Neocon hacks tore down.

Mark, remember your pledge to end "rudeness" on this blog?
Just reading the above postings, your leftist friends call Obama opponents: "Repugs" who are "bitter, nasty, and consumed by hatred", "dumb arse", "scum bag," "pathological liar", "insane," "pathetic excuses for human beings," "nutjobs" "not rooted in reality", who "weewee" and have "diaper sex."

We all realize you have a problem, Mark. If you apply any standards of "rudeness" to your blog posters, you won't have many (any?) Lefties left.

THE REAL STORY BEHIND JOE WILSON'S "YOU LIE" OUTBURST.
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http://tpmtv.talkingpointsmemo.com/?id=3445089
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city guy,
My taxes didn't go up. You wanna know why? I'm not a filthy smoker. Get some self control and you won't get taxed. PS Thinking people knew he was talking about INCOME taxes.

We all realize you have a problem, Mark. If you apply any standards of "rudeness" to your blog posters, you won't have many (any?) Lefties left.

Posted by: Bruce | September 18, 2009 5:07 PM
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Sounds like you're trying to stifle dissent, RNC Brucie....

Aren't you the one who is always saying: "Dissent is Patriotic"?

Let's see here - according to Brucie, calling Obama a "Nazi" and Hitler is "patriotic"....but anyone who calls out you (Wingnuts) is just making trouble and should be crushed?

Get lost RNC Brucie, don't you have a Teabagger party you can go to or something?

Yaaaawwwnnnnnn...... this is so old.
Can't we get on with the War on X-mas?

Really now, who in their right mind would trust ANY politician out of Chicago?

Hey, " Bruce " quit being such a Republican-Libertarian cry-baby. Running to the " teacher " and telling on people !! You can try dish it out, but you sure can't take it !! Go and nod-off at that phony keyboard, get your pay and quit the whining !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Bruce, Rick, T, John D, John W, HB,
Please book passage asap to the secret island. Stop. Pot holes need filled. Stop. Need self starters to install plumbing and sewer system. Stop. No health insurance. (Yay!) Stop. Will have unlimited credit at company store. Stop

Mark, as Obama and his merry band of lefty minions attempt to impose all this socialism on Americana and the average folks have emerged from the "fog" of deception the once mainstream media and press laid on them, we are witnessing a new "change". A sleeping tiger, the once silent majority, has awakened and by the looks of the polls, Obama's policies are being soundly rejected. The independents have realized that the Obama mantra of "hope and change' and all his campaign rhetoric has in reality been tossed under the bus, most likely was just election obfuscation to hide just exactly who and what he is, and now, as actual governing is necessary, they are discovering their great mistake in trusting this charlatan. Ditto for the majorities they gave the Dems. in Congress. Better quit hyping WH deception, the only ones remaining are the comatose, kool aide drinking lefties (my, my, they are becoming desperate in their demonizing) and as Obama tanks, they will be hit by the bus wheels soon. Oh, what's happening with your favorite gal, Sarah? She just go hunting or something, haven't seen any recent updates lately? Always a "Swamper"!

What the Hey! Who gives a care what Krauthammer says. He is just another
op-ed who has become a whore for the conservatives! Remember the Republicans never do anything for this nation they only do things to this nation! whiteagle38

Wait, I thought Obama was a god who transended all such common ideas like trust? Aren't you a little late with the idea that he is a mere mortal? And, are you just now figuring out that he intentionally moved to Chicago (where all politicians are trustworthy) because he had connections there to all his radical friends? I think that Obama has shattered any image of his trustworthiness.

TRANSPARENT. The only thing transparent about this administration is that they are radicals with idealism straight from the radical movement of the 1960s.

It is time to investigate the entire ACORN, SEIU and Obama web of corruption. This man was never properly vetted and had 90% of the media peeing themselves every time he spoke.

Listen to the real facts coming out now and this is only the tip of the iceberg. Even at that the vast majority of the media have downplayed it, if giving it any attention at all.