Obama on Iran: Talks first, military last

Basically that means nothing will be done and he'll make some lame excuse and the left will make it sound like Iran deserves nukes because of something we did.

"I understand those who protest that some countries have weapons that others do not. No single nation should pick and choose which nations hold nuclear weapons."

- President Obama's speech in Cairo, Egypt June 4th 2009

Obama is getting run out of Afghanistan, and he expects Iran to actually think military action is on the table? This guy has reached "most incompetent U.S. President" in record time.

Gee, talking to people we don't like instead of just making up reasons (WMD's) to bomb them? What a great idea!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-eyuFBrWHs
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Obumbles, countries have come together before when challenged by another. Anyway, hasn't there been lots of talking already? Hasn't the U.S. tried to get UN sanctions and action on Iran for years now? Hasn't Ahmadinijan basically said screw you to the UN and the rest of the world? That they are going to do whatever they want regardless?
Fine, make another effort and talks and some diplomacy. Right now it is the thing to do. BUT, realize that it really won't accomplish much of anything and that whether we want to or not, some type of military action will be necessary. But when Obama just quietly sat by while Iranian authorites massacred thousands of Iranians after the elections, I don't think the Iranian regime is too scared of this weakling.

JD, perhaps you're unaware of the history between Iran and the U.S., but most of the antagonism has come from us. We deposed a democratically Prime Minister whose policies weren't favorable to a British oil company. Muslims, if you hadn't noticed, have long memories despite the young blood they shed. If you're a Christian, you might know the phrase "for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." Well, get out your tools.

Thank god the American people got smart in 2008 and kicked the warmongering Neocon Repuglicans to the curb in the last election. We would probably have already invaded Iran by now if those nuts were still in charge.

"The neocons are rising, zombie-like, from the grave American voters dug for them in the last election. Untroubled by regret, much less shame, they're already whetting their knives for the Obama administration, exploiting challenging events abroad -- whether in Iran or Honduras -- to rewrite their own history, on the one hand, and start to write Barack Obama's, on the other."
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-signer/what-the-neocons-dont-get_b_229506.html

Nice Larry - You purposely left out the the part of the quote where it finishes with "under the terms of the nuclear non proliferation treaty"

Exactly what George W. Bush would have said under the same circumstances.

Except that opponents would take it seriously when Bush talked about force. With Obama.....

The last thing America can afford militarily or financially is to involve itself in yet another un-winnable war.
1. Korea (Draw)
2. Vietnam
3. 'Secret' war in Laos and Cambodia
4. Iraq II
5. Afg.
6. 'Secret' war in Pak

To support any kind of actual war against Iran I would need to see very convincing evidence. We need more than somebody holding up 'prop' anthrax at the UN, or pictures of weather balloon trucks.

We are nearly 8 years down the losing road in Afg and there is no end in sight in Iraq. It has dropped to a simmer, but the lid will blow off as soon as we leave regardless, so why not leave now?

Except that opponents would take it seriously when Bush talked about force. With Obama.....

Posted by: Dissent is Patriotic | September 25, 2009 8:25 PM
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That's funny Brucie, considering that the only thing I ever heard opponents of Shrub Jr do is laugh at him.
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http://www.plunderbund.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/osama-mission-accomplished-01.jpg
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Nothing is going to be done.
It's funny though that people speak of how tough Bush was, as he didn't do a thing about Iran. He was the one who allowed it to arrive to this state, where now Obama does nothing.
A very interesting, though debatable, suggestion of what can still be done to stop Iran I read here: http://www.pandalous.com/topic/a_nuclear_iran

This is nothing new from Nobama!.
He is so naive it isn't even funny.
He thinks that if you talks real nice
to them, that they will embrace him and give him a big wet one. Frankly, speaking the office of the Presidency requires more than a community organizer can provide. Resign now and preserve your dignity.

Speaking of teh G20, let's see how the left protest:

Since Silva hasn't reported on the G-20 yet, let's look at what a protest by the left looks like. 19 arrests - doesn't sound like a tea bag party. Don't forget to look at 30 pictures.

http://www.star-telegram.com/190/story/1634691.html

84 arrest - the nice peaceful left-wingers

http://www.examiner.com/x-19632-Salt-Lake-City-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m9d25-G20-Summit-protest-84-people-arrested-in-Pittsburg-video

CM,

I thought there was an end in sight to Iraq. Aren't out troops supposed to be out by May 20, 2010?

I wonder how BO will feel now that a hate America dictator here in the western hemisphere is looking to acquire nukes? Maybe he will just shrug since its his good buddy Hugo

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090925/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_venezuela_iran

Obama is getting run out of Afghanistan, and he expects Iran to actually think military action is on the table? This guy has reached "most incompetent U.S. President" in record time.

Posted by: Srurgis Drain | September 25, 2009 7:52 PM

It is alfully hard to try and remain civil when you read a comment so stupid as this. Obviously a Bush supporter who for years claimed Bush was acting smartly. 8 years of Afghanistan, and this bozo has awoken from his sleep. Wake up sleepy head, let me introduce you to the disaster you allowed.

He thinks that if you talks real niceto them, that they will embrace him and give him a big wet one. Frankly, speaking the office of the Presidency requires more than a community organizer can provide. Resign now and preserve your dignity.

Posted by: Paul | September 25, 2009 10:15 PM
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Yeah Paulie,

Obama should just trump up some phonie WMD's and then start the bombing, right?

You Wingnut knuckle-draggers still don't understand why the American public told you to go pound sand in 2008 do you?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFGit_tZDqs
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Why didn't Bush tell us that Iran might have nukes?

The wingnuts are at it again! To the moron calling the President "Ojumbles"- tell me, how many attacks did mr. Bush launch on Iran in the 8 years he was President, despite accusing them of having a nuclear program? To the morons blaming liberals- how many attacks were launched by the GOP in the 6 years they controlled things?

It's deja vu all over again. Let Russia or China bomb them this time. Actually, start by bombing the ones who gave them the tech and the uranium (gee, hope it's not us).
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/kissinger-cheney-rumsfeld-and-irans-nuclear-program

Idiot,

Do you mean klike these trumped up WMDs?

http://www.davidstuff.com/political/wmdquotes.htm

Not only does Krauthammer skewer Obama and his feckless "non-binding" resolution:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDVmMWIyZjYyZjAyY2M2OTVhOWI3YzhmM2I4YmRiYTA=

But all opinion aside, even the French are mocking him. Here is Sarkozy, “I support the extended hand of the Americans, but what good has proposals for dialogue brought the international community? More uranium enrichment and declarations by the leaders of Iran to wipe a UN member state off the map,” he continued, referring to Israel."

Let's hear it for the Canadian National Post, providing the news our own bootlickers in the media can't or won't.
http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/25/sarkozy-mocks-obama-at-un-security-council-hello-big-media/

Today's incivility post: Mark, your Leftie buddies above call Obama critics: "Repugs" who "are idiots", "Wingnut knuckle-draggers", "stupid" "bozos" who supported "Shrub Jr.", "warmongering Repuglicans" who are "zombies".

Mark, are you happy with the intellectual level of your Obama supporters? More important, are you going to keep your pledge to crack down on rudeness in this blog--even if keeping that pledge means deleting most posts by Obama supporters?

Why don't we just let Europe take care of this? We have enough on our plate as it is. Iran is not a threat to us or it's neighbors. And, if we play it smart, we can garner the support of the people of Iran who are starting to demonstrate some resolve. The simple prospect of bombing or invading Iran is just not plausible. Anyone suggesting that should be discounted in the discussion.

Obama needs to resign now. Obviously he cannot continue to destroy this country economically and also protect it from the nutbags who were given a pulpit at the incompetent beauracracy known as the UN this week.

Since our governments general stance has been to bash butts then asked questions, don't you think it might be a good idea to give some conversation a chance instead of continually repeating the same mistake? When you find yourself at the bottom of a hole, it's time to quit digging.

The most obam wil do is long wind' on his telprompter

Obama, along with our "friends", the cowardly Brithish, won't do anything. Get use to a nuclear Iran. Then, get comfortable with paying a lot more for gas. Wait until nuclear Iran decides to close the Straight of Hormuz, then watch oil go up to $200 a barrel, if we're lucky.

Words are cheap. Everyone knows Obama (who I voted for) does not have the backbone to be tough with any terrorist states. Nice speeches, but the tail is wagging the dog. I am disappointed.

Bruce, you also forgot about PrePukes (what a nice name and thought, that is, huh?) and Teabaggers.
Course, folks will say I'm the last to call out name calling. Yep, calling the Far Left, loons, is so mean and nasty!
Bruce, Mark Silva will let his deranged hooligans do and say whatever they want here. But be a little critical and use facts while doing it, that calls out for some censorship by the Swampites!
Anyway, in regard to Bush and Iran, it seems to me that for years Bush called for action against Iran and was met with nothing, first by the Russians and Chinese, then the Europeans, and finally by the media and Left in this country.
And I do remember, even recently, when there were Swamo items about a Cheney interview in which he said he favored military action against Iran, the hypocritical Loons on the Left chastised him. But now that Obama is in charge, all of a sudden, the military option deserves some consideration??? AS one pointed out, I don't think the Iranians are scared about Obama using that option. He is too timid and weak to do anything.

Today's incivility post: Mark, your Leftie buddies above call Obama critics: "Repugs" who "are idiots",
Posted by: Bruce | September 26, 2009 8:52 AM

Bruce.....coming from the party who calls a hero to a dolt that shouts you lie in the middle of a joint address on national TV.....your cries mean do do. Send your check to Wilson quickly to feel good about yourselves.

Terry,
I won't be holding my breath come May, 2010.
And if we do leave, the thin patina of 'accomplishment' in Iraq will dissolve as the lid blows off.

Serious question; Does anyone know if the road to the airport was ever cleared and declared safe for general passage?

Just because Russia and China shared Iran’s undemocratic ideology they will not co-operate fully.

The British are cowards??
Never heard that one before. I know a few and it would be funny to see you say it to their faces. I'd love to see you picking your teeth out of your throat.

CM,

Let's see on BO's probable broken promises:

Detainees out of GItmo by January 22, 2010 - probably not.

Troops out of Iraq by May 20, 2010 - probably not.

The left isn't going to be a happy group in the fall of 2010.

Resign now!., you can have a job instantly reading to new at any one
of the following networks, NBC, CBS,
ABC,MSNBC,and CNN. anyone with the prowess that you show with a teleprompter most certainly be a big hit.

Posted by: Paul | September 27, 2009 9:24 AM

Well said ....and you didn't swallow any spitballs or anything. Pick your toys up and come to dinner.

Let the Iranians alone, they are not stupid enough to attack Israel with an atomic anything. Israel is the only nation in the middle east an atomic device. They just want the U.S. to do they're dirty work for them.