White House: Race not cause of criticism: The Swamp
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White House says President Obama doesn't agree with ex-President Carter

Posted September 16, 2009 4:50 PM
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White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs today. (Photo by Charles Dharapak / AP)

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by Mark Silva and updated

President Barack Obama does not subscribe to the belief that criticism for him stems from "the color of his skin,'' the chief White House spokesman, a native Alabaman, said today.

Robert Gibbs, the president's press secretary and a son of the post-segregationist era from Auburn, said this in response to several questions stemming from the comments of former President Jimmy Carter, a Georgian and son of the Old South, that "an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he is African-American.''

"Let's take what former President Carter said,'' Gibbs said today from the podium of the West Wing about what Carter said yesterday, in an interview broadcast last night by NBC News.

"The president does not believe that criticism comes based on the color of his skin. We understand that people have disagreements with some of the decisions that we've made and some extraordinary actions that had to be undertaken by both this administration and previous administrations to stabilize our financial system, to ensure viability of our domestic auto industry....

"The president does not believe that it's based on the color of his skin.''

In the midst of controversy surrounding ACORN, the community organization which Republican congressional leaders are attempting to "defund'' because of the alleged and reported behavior of some of its workers in first voter-registration drives and lately videotaped dealings with conservative activists posing as a pimp and prostitute, the White House also addressed the government's involvement with the organization.

"Obviously the conduct that you see on those tapes is completely unacceptable,'' Gibbs said. "I think everyone would agree with that. The administration takes accountability extremely seriously.

"The Census Bureau evaluated and determined that this group could not meet the bureau's goal of achieving a fair and accurate count in 2010, and I assume others are -- are evaluating to ensure, as we always are, that any grantee, whether that grant was let in this administration or in previous administrations -- there's housing counseling grants that were let in previous administrations, FEMA grants that were let in previous administrations -- that we constantly evaluate to ensure that any grantee is living up to what has to happen in order to fulfill that grant application.''

Is the White House not concerned about a "climate of hate'' in the country, Gibbs was asked.

"That was neither (the) question nor my answer,'' Gibbs said. "I simply said I didn't think and I don't think the president believes that the majority of those that are upset at actions that have to be taken are based.... '' on the president's race.

Asked if Carter had ever voiced his concern to Obama privately, Gibbs said, "I don't know when the last time they talked was. And I doubt that this was a topic of their conversation.''

What does the president say privately, when people raise the issue? "What the president says privately is what I just shared with you publicly as his spokesperson,'' Gibbs said.

" I think, most people that see him understand that he's an African-American,'' Gibbs said. "So this whole notion that somehow people won't see or notice that has always to me been something of a peculiar line of either questioning or reasoning....I'm just simply saying...the president does not believe that... the majority of this is based on that. I just don't subscribe to that.''

Michael Steele, the Republican National Committee chairman who, like Obama, is the first African American to hold his position, told CNN's Wolf Blitzer today that he doesn't agree with Carter either.

"I think the president's interpretation of what racism is is not a reflection of what this is about,'' Steele said. "The reality of it is, this is about policy -- differences in how we approach solving some of these issues that we're confronting on health care and the economy. And the fact that there are citizens around the country -- I don't care what color they are -- that are outraged or -- or confused or concerned or whatever, however they come to this debate, you know, that has nothing to do with the color of the president's skin.''

Might this be one of those "teachable moments,'' such as the "beer-summit" that followed Obama's public characterization of the Cambridge Police Department's arrest of Harvard Prof. Henry Gates in his home earlier this year as another case of racial profiling - with the president later allowing that he had chosen his words poorly in saying the department had "acted stupidly?''

Might this give rise to another presidential address on a subject which he confronted in Philadelphia, as a candidate, following the controversy generated by his former longtime pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright of Chicago?

Obama spoke of seeking that "more perfect union.''

"Obviously the president has and has always had great concerns about race relations in this country,'' Gibbs said. "He's talked about them in speeches. He's talked about them throughout his career in politics. Believes we've made great strides, and obviously we've got work to do. But I don't -- I'm not sure I see this large national conversation going on right now.''

So "what impact does it have when a former president of the United States, someone who came from the South, someone who worked against discrimination all of his career says that the -- what was it -- "an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity is because he's black?"

"It adds to our dialogue,'' Gibbs said. "I'm just simply saying I don't think the president agrees with that. ''

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The GOPer Teabaggers aren't just racists....they're also bigots and homophobes.


"Obama heckler Joe Wilson a member of neo-Confederate SCV, fought to keep Dixie flag flying in South Carolina"
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I have grown very, very weary of trying to prove that there really is an 800 pound gorilla in the room called Republican racism. It is so overt that it surprises me that our "leaders" have not addressed it.

Glenn Beckkk, Lush Rimbutt, O'LIElly, and that group have whipped up the GOPer racists and the bigots in this country to a violent, hysterical tone. They don't care that people carry guns to Obama events. They don't care that people have signs calling OUR PRESIDENT a socialist or a Nazi, and much, much worse. They don't care that people say racist things about OUR PRESIDENT.


I am so distressed by this that I can't watch the news anymore. It hurts me, makes me angry, and makes me realize that the hope I had that this country was changing, slowly, but changing, have been dashed by the knuckledraggers, racists, bigots, and other idiots who make up the GOP.


I am shocked that our leaders have not come forth and taken positions against this. Why? Because they feel and believe the same way. OUR PRESIDENT has no protection other than those of us who put him where he is. WE have to have his back. WE have to address racism wherever we see it, hear it, read it, or smell it. WE HAVE TO!



.....And Obama continues to play the rabid, emotional Right Wing Lunatics like a fiddle. You guys fall for distractions way too easily.


No one should deny the truth and the truth is that many Republicans who hate Obama are motivated by racism.


It is no accident that a Confederate flag proponent like Joe 'the heckler" Wilson feels he can interupt the Presdient in a speech before Congress and call him a liar.


Wilson is a racist. The Confederate flag is an evil symbol that Wilson embraces.



well, this is awkward. that means a lot of people have to admit that they agree with obama who probably would rather not. >


Who cares? Do anyone really that anything would change these racist Tea baggers minds (or what passes for minds)? This isn't about telling them their racists - if they don't know it already, nothing is going to help the situation. This is about making sure the rest of the country understands the underlying racism that dominates the motivations of the Republican party in 2009.



Republicans elected and supported a guy (Bush) who may go down in history as the worst president ever. Bush has a horrible track record... and the Republicans know that, and it embarrasses them. When they look at what Bush did to the country, and know that they put him in office and supported him, they feel pretty stupid. I mean, seriously, if you'd been a Bush-booster and got that kind of result, wouldn't you have to think, "Jeez, maybe I'm stupid and have incredibly poor judgement and shouldn't be trusted to pick our leaders anymore"? So, because of that humiliation, they want to force Obama to fail. That way, they won't have to be the only stupid people in the country... or, so they think.


Also, they saw the protests against Bush, and now they want "their turn," even if they have to trump up ridiculous things to get it. The main difference is, Democrats protested Bush for things he'd done. Republicans are protesting Obama for fantasies about what they think he might do (thanks to idiots like Glenn Beck and Limbaugh who feed them their daily dose of stupid).



You liberals are hilarious. Now Republicans are bigots, homphobes, knuckledraggers (whatever that is) and whatever else you can think of. The problem with liberals is you are closet racists. You claim in public to be for every race but Caucasians but in reality, how many of you live in the ghetto? How many of you actually have friends of another race? How many of you will be willing to send your children to a black school? NONE. Why, because you are as phoney as the president when it comes to this subject.


I am critical of the programs that President Obama espouses.

I am concerned that these programs will lead to an increased national debt, a deficit that is greater than any we have experiended, increased taxes and greater inflation that exceeds what we experienced when Jimmy Carter was President.

i am not a "Nazi" as Nancy Pelosi claimed, I am not un-American as Harry Reid claimed, and I am not a racist as Jimmy Carter claimed.

I am just an average American who worries about the policies that the government in D.C. is pushing!


You liberals are hilarious. Now Republicans are bigots, homphobes, knuckledraggers (whatever that is) and whatever else you can think of. The problem with liberals is you are closet racists
Posted by: Fed up with Liberal Whining | September 16, 2009 5:49 PM
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You're hilarious Teresa,


So all of those Repug whackjobs and cretins who were out "protesting" against whatever it is that they're "protesting" against, for Glenn Beckkk...in DC on 9/12 were....Liberals?.....Ha ha ha!
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@ Fed Up: you're addressing liberals as a group of people as though they're all white. May I remind that black people and other non-white people exist, and some of them even consider themselves to be liberal?


I am critical of the programs that President Obama espouses. I am concerned that these programs will lead to an increased national debt, a deficit that is greater than any we have experiended, increased taxes and greater inflation that exceeds what we experienced when Jimmy Carter was President.
Posted by: Pat H | September 16, 2009 5:55 PM
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We need to keep talking about economics. Republicans are all for government spending when they're controlling things - as long as the money is spend lining the pockets of other Republicans and taking it away from everyone else. We need to get people to recognize that it's all about economics.


Talking about Republican racism, in this instance, plays right into the Republican strategy of dividing people.



I agree with Pat H.

Violent rhetoric and epithets accomplish nothing. That is certainly not the way the current (or former presidents were elected ... with the possible exception of Jefferson).

What actually works is a clear & compelling presentation of facts - ALL of them ... and clear thinking/discussion about them. It is what we desperately need, but it is also the most difficult thing for us to do.

As Thomas Edison once said: "There is no expedient to which a man will not go to avoid the labor of thinking."

It is much easier to throw a brick than to build with one.


It must really suck to be a racist these days. Hard to own up to the fact that the president is Black, and he won't be the last Black president. And, hopefully, we may see a Hispanic, and a Woman, and all other types of Americans be presidents. The (racist) breed is dying. It's just too bad that we have to spend so many more years listening to it die.


The lefty zealots and comrades might try to find another excuse to explain away the well founded opposition to the President. Try for example his policies, based on intrusive social engineering dogma, egregious spending and unsustainable deficits. No? Guess again. In fact the protests would be just as loud if WJ Clinton or the misguided 'Jimmy' Carter were doing the promotion. Do therefore project your racial bias theories elsewhere. A mirror might suffice.


Democrats need to stop paying attention to what some closet or openly racist Republicans may or may not think of President Carter's statement.


95%+ of the problems President Barack Obama is dealing with is because of the political and financial disaster George W. Bush left for him.


I say, good for President Carter for speaking out. It's about time someone actually called a spade a spade!


What insanity? So Carter stirs up the liberals saying anone who disagrees with Obama is a racist. Carter was one of the worst Presidents the U.S. ever had. I disagree with most of what Obama has done, but that doesn't make me hatefull, or a a racist. That makes me someone who doesn't like Obama and his policies. What bothers me is the Democrats booed Bush on the Senate floor, but the media said nothing. Wilson calls Obama a liar, and the Democrats change the wording of the health plan to check ID"s, and the media doesn't say a word except to put down Wilson. The media is not to be trusted in the U.S.


We've been letting Republicans get away with racist dog whistle politics for 50 years...enough of this crap. We need to STAND UP and make people understand that we KNOW what they are doing and it is UNACCEPTABLE and DESPICABLE and President Carter did just that. Bravo for him

President Obama can't make this case...it is up to all political persuasions of white Americans to get into the faces of their mothers, fathers, sisters brothers and grandparents and let them know that this is UNACCEPTABLE behavior. No more standing around and sucking it up and saying under our breath and dismissing it as just old crazy right wing XXX. This behavior is damaging our country and our children. They are watching us and what we do.



The "New Millenium Republican Party" would attacked Hillary Clinton the same way and with all the venom they could muster had she been elected too. Nonetheless, right wing racism inflames the hatred against President Obama.


The irony is that their hatred trumps the recognition of how badly our economy deteriorated under the Bush years. (Not ignoring that Summers/Rubin didn't help much under Clinton.) Hatred blinds those that feel marginalized, so much so that they are falling into the insurance industry's steel trap regarding healthcare reform.


Criticism Of Obama Is Obviously About Racism. I'm An African American & I've Voted Democrat & Republican Throughout My Life. I See Racism In Both Parties & Laugh At The Idea That Republicans Somehow Have A Monopoly On Racism. Just Because Obama Is Our President & Leader Of Democrats Now One Has To Wonder Where African Americans Are Throughout The Democrat Party. There Are Hardly Any African American Congressman, Senators, Or Staffers In Washington D.C. In Both The Democrat & Republican Party. Lets Call A Spade A Spade-When Someone Criticizes Obama, They're Obviously A Racist Just Like When People Used To Criticize Condoleeza Rice. As A Proud African American I Realize That Today The Democrat Party Is Representing Us, But I'm Not Gullible Enough To Believe That We As African Americans Are Represented Proportionally By Democrats Or Republicans And When I Hear Criticism Of Obama Or Condoleeza Rice Or Clarence Thomas (Appointed By A Republican President To The Supreme Court) I Know That Those Voicing The Criticism Are Really Just Bigots-Hiding Behind There Centuries Old Racism.


Perhaps Mr. Wilson thinks Mr Obama was lying when he said as much, or is that just too obvious?

Opposition to his policies? Couldn't be the policies could it, nah, to the enlightened leftist it is obviously racism.

Theater of the absurd.


Here are more racists opposed to Obama's liberal policies:

Ken Hamblin, Alan Keyes, Thomas Sowell, JC Watts, and Walter Williams.

Must be b/c he's black.


The Republican Party for years built its base on whiteness and white privilege. They're stunned that this country decided it wants its most powerful person to be black. The Republican world has been turned inside out.


And, as DrainYou put it so well: "The main difference is, Democrats protested Bush for things he'd done. Republicans are protesting Obama for fantasies about what they think he might do (thanks to idiots like Glenn Beck and Limbaugh who feed them their daily dose of stupid)."


Republican fantasies about what they think he might do are predicated on the fear that whiteness isn't the privilege it was even 10 years ago.


This is just like the 2008 elections all over again.

Obama would get someone to claim the race card, and then he would take his role in the theatrics and denounce it. He wants to appear to be the mild little lamb, but he is faking. He instigates all this racism stuff, then falls back and tries to heal it.

Observe.


Remember, liberals, when you point at someone else there are 4 fingers (well, 3 really, if you want to get technical) pointing back at you. YOU are the ones that are racist. YOU are the ones who think that other people (minorities) are too stupid to make the "right" decisions without your help. Just let it go already. People disagree with you and your messiah. Act like adults and deal with it. Seriously.


Wow. You know its getting bad when the only thing you can do to support the President and his poor performance is call those who disagree with him names. How many lies or misleading statements does it take? Stimulus isn't pork, no more earmarks, shovel ready, transparency, bipartisanship, illegal aliens wont be covered, 47 million uninsured, etc. before you realize that all either party cares about is getting re-elected. This could be the first time Obama got it right - its not about Race. This is bigger than that and its bigger than either political party.


Carter is right.


This is just like the 2008 elections all over again.

Obama would get someone to claim the race card, and then he would take his role in the theatrics and denounce it. He wants to appear to be the mild little lamb, but he is faking. He instigates all this racism stuff, then falls back and tries to heal it.Observe.
Posted by: knowdalaw | September 16, 2009 9:05 PM
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Yes Of Course!


Now I Get It!


It's Obama's fault that Republicans call him racist names!


How could I not have known this before?


We all know that everything that we Republicans do that looks and sounds stupid to 99.9% of America, is a plot by Obama!....And we also know that Jesus rode a Dinosaur and the Earth is flat.


When will you stupid Libs figure that out?



1) us white folks lost the monopoly on racism long ago

2) I have no problem with having a black man as my president, I DO have a problem with THAT black man as my president, because I don't think he is up to the job - I think he is dangerously unqualified, and most of what he has done in his first 9 months on the job reinforces my fears.

Get it?

3) Carter is an idiot

4) More Republicans than democrats voted for the original civil-rights bill in 1964.


Carter doesn't have a clue and merely panders to the White House. Some would find pepper in buckshot. I am sick and tired of the racial hypocrisy in this country. The 'holier-than-thou' attitude and double standards of democrats and liberals is enough to make anyone run to the rail and hurl. Enjoy it while you can, the 2010 elections are fast approaching. The dems are going to get kicked to the political curb and deservedly so. In the meantime, next time you have a thought, let it go. The race card pull has been done once too often. Racism is a two-way street; in fact, those that bandy the word around really have no idea what the term really means. If they did, they would be applying it to themselves. God forbid they point the finger of blame where it really belongs...


If Republicans want to argue that the birther, Kenyan, Muslim, un-American, monkey, witchdoctor attacks against President Obama, made by the elected and unelected arms of the Republican Party, have anything to do with policy disagreements then let him try make that laughable case. But they can take their fake outrage and straw man arguments about being called out on it and shove it.



Its funny how the left is 1st to pull out the race card when they do not get their way, acting like little kids. And the Tea Bagger stuff just goes to show you how right I am.


I consider myself a conservative and do not agree with everything Bush did. He kept us safe for 8 years after 9/11, other than that the bank bailout was wrong, but remember congress went along with it and Obama was a part of the Senate at the time. Stimulus = 1 trillion dollars, cash for clunkers = 3 billion dollars, Obama care = 1 Trillion dollars, cap and trade/tax. Where is this money going to come from? Even the GBO says Obama Care is not deficit neutral. This is why the american people are upset and the Democrats calling them crazy, unamerican, racist, etc, etc, etc. Obama has brought us Chicago politics on the Potomic. Can we please but the race card away please. Its getting old and worn out.


Keep in mind that these right wing lunatic fringe mouth-breathers who are saying all of this racist garbage about President Obama are the same ones who were just carrying signs calling Obama Hitler and saying that Acorn groups and his "arrogant" wife (Michelle) should be sent back to "their own" country and be stripped of their rights.


More seriously, these people are a perfect example of the modern Republican racist. They don't go around calling black people "boy" (to their faces) and they certainly don't think of themselves as bigots. But in their minds, racial minorities are dangerous barbarians who are threatening to destroy their way of life. Hence, when they find themselves in a group of loud Teabaggers, they see it as a test of their own manhood to "put them down." (Of course, that's why they need all those guns.)


A black president is threatening to them, even if they don't really understand it, because while he is unquestionably a very accomplished individual in anyone's estimation, the loyalty he inspires among African Americans frightens them --- and his sometime feints to popular culture and black solidarity make them very, very uncomfortable. That's why the right wing's obsession with ACORN has such resonance with the "base". In their little pea sized brains the believe that a "black army" is forming. They are living in a new world where racism is a minority position. But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist or that it doesn't find political expression in some powerful ways. It behooves Progressives to be vigilent about this and keep these impulses in check with frequent reminders that it is not acceptable in modern America to be a racist.


It's also obvious that nativism and immigration are the great racial undercurrent of the moment and they have long been the animating feature of toxic right wing populism. We ignore this stuff at our peril.



"Who cares?"

That's right, Archie. What possible relevance do the facts have to this discussion? You tell 'em!


@ Fed Up: you're addressing liberals as a group of people as though they're all white. May I remind that black people and other non-white people exist, and some of them even consider themselves to be liberal?

Posted by: Alphonse | September 16, 2009 6:14 PM

Alphonse I am not assuming all liberals are white. Your statement backs up my point. You assume that non-whites can't be racist yet they are and probably more so. However, the white liberals are the real closet racists. They claim in public they are for everyone when the reality is they are not. By the way, why is it that all liberals assume that all republicans are racist and all listen to Limbaugh or Beck or any of the other nut jobs?


WOW!!!

How fast was that White House bus going that just rolled over Jimmy Carter? Did anyone see who was driving? Did anyone get the license plate?


I am white, and our president is half-white. I disagree with a lot of his policies, mostly his plans to increase the size of our government and the size of our deficit.
I am white, and our president is half-white. Nieither of those facts change the fact that I completely disagree with his choices as president.
How does that make me a racist?


How does that make me a racist?

Posted by: Johhny Weak | September 17, 2009 11:16 AM


well if you listen to Beck, what's with his "secret negro army" claims? or why would he say healthcare are reparations? Why would Rush say America is too multi-cultural? You can't read between those lines?


It seems like no matter what happens, there will always be an issue of racism to some degree.


The best thing that will come from this is it will make Obama a one termer, people like to criticize their presidents, if they are to be labeled racists, Obama will be lucky to get 40 %. This theory was confirmed by the Grand Wizard Democratic Sen. Byrd........i bet he has a little trouble getting into those sheets these days.


well if you listen to Beck,
Posted by: bill r. | September 17, 2009 1:44 PM

Hey bill r. does it bother you just a little bit that all the Dems. are listening to him now. i see they are trying to get some distance from Acorn now... and to think they thought, it would just blow over because the msm didn't cover it, "the worm has turned" bill r. and you know it....no more lofty numbers for the "Messiah" these days.


Hey bill r. does it bother you just a little bit that all the Dems. are listening to him now.
Posted by: Don B. | September 17, 2009 3:39 PM


Wow ....what drugs are you on? Don't dribble on yourself Don..it's embarrassing. Dems could give a hoot about your leader Beck. He is crazy, vile, arrogant and evrything else that you find attractive in him and more than likely posses. I believe you said back in Sept 08 that McBush would be the next president. Your predictions are as acurate as your posts.


"1) us white folks lost the monopoly on racism long ago

2) I have no problem with having a black man as my president, I DO have a problem with THAT black man as my president, because I don't think he is up to the job - I think he is dangerously unqualified, and most of what he has done in his first 9 months on the job reinforces my fears.

Get it?

3) Carter is an idiot

4) More Republicans than democrats voted for the original civil-rights bill in 1964."


Terry, you also forgot to mention that the only sitting member of Congress ever to have been a member of the KKK (and a high-ranking member at that) is a Democrat, i.e. Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia.


Hey grumpy how did the vote split on the extention of the Voting Rights Act extention in the House in 2006?


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