Glenn Beck: 'God Help us all'

Crazy Glenn is making a fortune off of the low IQ Teabaggers who make up the Republican base. It's kind of funny in a sick and twisted sort of way.

I have a friend who's a Dem and ever since these Right Wing whackjobs started holding their Teabagger tantrums he started selling anti Obama bumper stickers and buttons to them on the internet. He's laughing at them all the way to the bank.

I doubt that Beck can even spell the word 'Blackberry'.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-D_S7WOnjg
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What he doesn't say is that he wants an event, a riechstag moment, another 9/11 so that he can try to use his thuggish unthinking followers to overthrow the legally elected government of the United States of America and install a government more to his liking. More militaristic, more Christian, nmore controlling. A government where liberal thought will be permanently supressed, ans where minorities will be permanently oppressed.

Glenn Beck 's vision of Ameriica is one of rigid right wing conformity, where the white Christian conservative male is obeyed with out question. God Help us All.

I wonder what Beck's next gimmick will be?

An hour long special on eating lead paint chips? 30 minutes of pro-paint chips people, and 30 minutes of anti-paint chips people?

Or maybe he'll discuss the pros and cons of putting your hand in the toaster. He can bring in Orly Taitz, foremost expert on hand-toaster interactions, and Michael Scheuer on how Obama's Hitleresque government is trying to take away your freedom to stick your hand in your toaster whenever you want.
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Beck is a calculating entertainer who says these outrageous things simply to enhance his legend among the mindless conservative base and keep making the bucks. He has no love for America.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

"It mainly goes for the Left, but there are some of those who are political animals only. They are not tied to values. They are tied to politics and power,'' Beck tells Ruddy. "They don't understand that people actually care about things... ~ Glenn Beck, speaking to Chris Ruddy of Newsmax media
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Glenn Beck is great. When he dropped the frog, a Kool-ade drinker, into the pot of boiling water and then looked back, in shock, to see how the frog was making out, it was truly a classic moment in television. When Beck and O’Reilly go head to head, one explaining to the other what the righteous, but indignant, Leftists are saying about the other guy, it is a highly informative exchange of acutely discriminating observations. More great television. Beck and O’Reilly, just asking the questions. That’s what they do. The acolytes of the Mustapha Faith don’t get it, and they never will.

Oh, I love the comments from the Loons from the Left. Such ignorant, worthless people they are. Beck isn't always my cup of tea, but he does make many valid points and he can make one think. But it takes opening one's mind in order for it to think. Clearly, the Loons on the Left neither have the mind nor the ability to open it if they do have one.
But, again, Mark, was your inspiration for this Beck piece from Media Matters? DailyKook? Moveon.org?

Actually, Newsmax's publicist.

Glenn Beck is great.
Posted by: Django - N Exile In/Around the 30th Parallel | October 6, 2009 4:28 PM
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Straight from the mouth of a goober from Texas who voted for war criminals Shrub Jr and The Dick Cheney.....twice.

So Beck's problem with the Iraq war was that there wasn't enough killing? I think he's missing some understanding of key parts of his self-proclaimed Christian faith.

Lil Johnny Dittohead,

This is straight from your heroes at Newsmax. I guess they got tired of reporting on Big Foot sightings.

The acolytes of the Mustapha Faith don’t get it, and they never will.

Posted by: Django - N Exile In/Around the 30th Parallel | October 6, 2009 4:28 PM

I certainly hope not. There is enough sickness in this world.

Sometimes I'd like to go Michael Vick on Glenn Beck's "Watchdogs", his pet name for his eager little Storm Troopers who watch his comedy show w/ notebooks in hand.

I'm always amazed these people do not get it...Beck and the rest are "entertainment personalities". They are very happy to take your money and put it in their bank. Will their followers EVER get it?

Will their followers EVER get it?

Posted by: lochnessmonster | October 6, 2009 5:09 PM

Well, we're talking about folks like John D, and Django, so the chances of them ever getting it are incredibly small. I mean they still think Bush was great President, so if two disasterous wars, and the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression aren't enough to get through to them, anything silly little Beck does can't even come close.

Beck says. "Because I am a recovering alcoholic, when I hit the bottom, I promised to the Lord that, if he would take the guilt away... I would serve him... and I have done that..."

Typical religious right hypocrite. I mean, seriouly, was Beck sick the day in Sunday School when they went over, "you shall not put the Lord, your God to the test"? A lesson Christ reaffirmed when he was tempted by the devil.

You DO NOT say to God "if YOU do this, then I will do that".

God doesn't make deals. Sometimes we do good deeds, sometimes we fail (sin). But thanks to God's never ending love for us, he sacraficed His son for the forgiveness of our sins. Even Beck's "false prophet" style hypocrisy.

Beck is a complete charlatan. He is like some bizzare cross between Elmer Gantry and Howard Beale.

John E @ 4:44 p.m.
Have u ever slowly boiled a frog? Supposedly the frog won’t just sit there and allow that to happen, but IF, u were to perform a lobotomy first, the deed can still go down as propagated. Well, let’s hope that never happens to any of the frogs that we would know. One thing we do know, jimmy carter will never be any kind of a statesman.

("Any college kids that are watching,'' host Chris Ruddy, CEO of Newsmax Media, notes in an aside to the audience, "don't tell your professors that you watch Glenn Beck. You'll get an F.''

Anyone who watches Glenn Beck never made it out of the 6th grade, anyway.

why doesn't Glenn honestly admit that his boss Rupert Murdoch is in bed with the Communist Chinese gov't.?
why won't he expose how Rupert dines with Communist leaders in their elite compound, and how Fox News helped China’s state broadcaster develop a "news" Web site. and yes, tell us more about how old Rupert married a Communist.
sadly, Fox News fans are being played by Rupert and his commie cronies.

Yeah I think Beck is a little too much for me. Some of the things he says have a ring or truth to them, but it is the way he says things.. too angry and bitter --

Who are these freaks that spend any time listening to Mr. Beck?

They should be sterilized to stop their genes from spreading any further.

I'm just saying...

Glenn Beck says what everyone is thinking, that is why he is popular with his audiences

Glenn Beck says what everyone is thinking, that is why he is popular with his audiences

BA DA DA DA DA DAAA! ♫

Sitting on the Fox bench
eyeing BHO with with bad intent.
Tears running down his nose
greasy fingers smearing snotty nose

Hey Glenn Beck!
Lying is such cold fun,
Watching as the thrilling psychos run!

Feeling like a FOX-lick
spitting out pieces of his broken lo-GIC.
Hey Glenn Bleckky!

Feeling alone
T-Bagger army up the road
salvation à la mode and
a cup of tea.

Glenn Beck you fiend
don’t turn from what you’ve gleaned
you alien pod, new instructions will be beamed.

Glenn Beck it seemed
You just could not be reamed
You huge gas bag, the voices inside have now been streamed.
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BA DA DA DA DA DAAA!

It's like an interview with David Brent.

Glenn Beck says what everyone is thinking, that is why he is popular with his audiences

Posted by: JOHN C | October 6, 2009 6:10 PM
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Yeah ....if you're talking about what the toothless rednecks who make up the Republican base are "thinking".
http://community.livejournal.com/ontd_political/3983339.html#cutid1

Beckerhead must have gotten very confused and promised to serve the "Dark Lord" as he is clearly doing the devil's work in serving Faux News--Rupert Murdoch's Lying Circus. It is frightening that certain conservative morons pay attention to this little, self-righteous Mormon moron.

Dumb Dumb Janet, don't know about Newsmax covering Bigfoot sightings, but I do know deranged people like you Janet, er John E., regularly see pink elephants!

bill r @ 4:50 p.m.,

Yeah, well, I guess. I really don’t see how the Left can possibly claim the holy ground on anything. Prince draws a lot of fire, even as a fairly quiet private citizen not weighing in on anything. I certainly expect that to continue for another 3 years, 3 months.

I can tell u too, that I and the other Secessionists love Willie, his ponytail, and his classical guitar with the big ole worn-in pick hole, but we don’t need Willie to be in charge of anything. IF he were, there would be no shortage of Glenn Beck – Bill O’Reilly kind of questions that would surely be raised. Just asking the questions where the LSM dare not tread.

Although Beck is a bit over the top, he makes it easy for those who are willing and able to listen and I am sorry to say that that excludes most of the fools who are ignorantly supporting the conversion of this country to a socialist state, a condition in which most of those with any semblance of education and marketable talents will not prosper at all. You libs are gliding happily toward your own ruin and you don't even know it. You are, indeed, the "Useful Idiots" that the left needs to create the inferior nation that they dream stupidly of.

The loonie lefts are afraid of Beck because they can't grasp the concepts he shares. They are afraid because Americans are listening. They even believe obama's government health coverage is about health care

I guess Glenn doesn't know that the Bush policy in Iraq was to pay ??? to the Sunni insurgents to stop killing us.

Glenn, please get back on the sauce. You were more lucid in that state.

I just love the anger and sheer hatred that spews from liberals like pea green soup when they talk about Glenn Beck. Its like playing Barry Manilow for gang bangers or waving a cross at a vampire. Their little minds unreel like a broken Grateful Dead 8-track. HA!

Lou,

One of those disastrous wars is the war that democrats claimed that we should have been more involved in all along, ~ “then”. Now that the “then” is now, and they are driving the bus, they are, in their typical fashion, just thoroughly confused. Don’t really know what to do. Do u ramp it up or do u apologize now and call it. Always Shuckn’ and Jivin’. That apparently is the Iraq-Afghanistan policy position of this administration ~ “now”.

Yeah, an economic collapse made worse by democrat policies. No high tech jobs, no shovel ready jobs, no green jobs. No real recovery. No one is going to invest in something where the rules of engagement cannot be defined and nationalization is just waiting for the right confluence of “emergency” events. A lot of good could be accomplished simply by cutting capital gains tax. Ain’t going to happen with this group of dedicated socialists.

Here’s the democrats Model Economy:
Worker Group 1 - 50% Government Jobs
Worker Group 2 - 25% Green Jobs That Do Not Exist
Worker Group 3 - 15% Union Jobs ~ Gotta Take Care of Them. Always.
Worker Group 4 – 10% Permanent Unemployment, Those Not In Gps. 1, 2, & 3

I think we are just about there. Just making an observation, that’s all. This is not so hard to see. U gotta crack open an eye every once in a while.

The demigod of trailer trash.

I just love the anger and sheer hatred that spews from liberals like pea green soup when they talk about Glenn Beck
Posted by: J in KC | October 6, 2009 7:23 PM
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Shouldn't you be busy celebrating America not getting the Olympics with your fellow 'Country First, Great Ameican' Republican traitors today?

Here’s the Repuglicans Model Economy:

-Tax cuts for the richest 1%, big corporations and big oil, thus tanking the economy
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-Start two wars (one based on lies) and then proceed to commit war crimes, torture and sell out the American taxpayers to Military Industrial Complex cronies like Haliburton, Blackwater and KBR.

I think we are just about there. Just making an observation, that’s all. This is not so hard to see. U gotta crack open an eye every once in a while.

Posted by: Django - N Exile In/Around the 30th Parallel | October 6, 2009 7:55 PM

Django I think you got the answer I was looking for in your 7:55 post. I love it. The democrats model economy is what they are after and the sheep just follow along not knowing any better. I think we may need go over 100% because we have the "undocumented" in this country that the dems need to vote for them. Just a ? do you put ACORN under group 1

Here's a book, so that if you can't think for yourself, we'll tell you what to say. I think that sums it up.

This guys is such a joke. You want a guy who panders to the simple masses? You got him! When was the last time a legtimate conservative spoke out in favor of this moron? I wanted how many fans of this idiot also read legitimate conservative publications? Good thing he is on TV.

Django, While Afghanistan is a necessary war, Bush's handling of it was been disasterous. Absolutely disasterous. It's unfortunate that people like you cannot or will not make that distinction.

"Shuckin' and Jivin'? Do you really think racial stereotypes like that are funny Django? I don't. I think it just makes you look ignorant at best. I guess that helps explain why you still think Bush was a great President.

Here’s the Repuglicans Model Economy:

-Tax cuts for the richest 1%, big corporations and big oil, thus tanking the economy

-Start two wars (one based on lies) and then proceed to commit war crimes, torture and sell out the American taxpayers to Military Industrial Complex cronies like Haliburton, Blackwater and KBR.

Posted by: Rafael Alberti | October 6, 2009 8:11 PM

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Rafael, Tax cuts DO NOT tank an economy. Economists of various persuasions may argue the real benefits of tax cuts, but you will not find this false theory of “tanking the economy” in any Economics Textbook that I would recognize, unless said textbook was written by a bona fide Socialist.

From my extensive personal collection of textbooks, I selected at random:

Economics, Fourth Edition, A
Contemporary Introduction by William A. McEachern. I have about 5 of these tomes, but I am not on this all night.

From Chapter 12, Theory of Fiscal Policy, p. 257:

“A decrease in net taxes, other things constant, increases disposable income at each level of real GDP, so consumption increases.”

In this same section, there is also this statement:

“Specifically, consumption spending at each level of real GDP rises by the decrease in net taxes times the marginal propensity to consume.”

If a person, u or me, is allowed to keep more of their disposable income, they will have the inclination (marginal propensity) to spend it on something that benefits them. Maybe u don’t like what they would spend it on, but the collective activity of doing this is what makes an economy an Economy. democrats complicate this, but that is not a problem that I have.

I, a rich Repuglican apparently, personally benefited significantly from the Bush Tax Cuts. So did my tadpole nieces and nephews, all broke-a$$ democrats still in college, who could not wait to run to the mailbox and get their annual return on their federal taxes. “Uncle Django, why are we rewarded with this extra money? What did we do wrong?” The next time that u are drinking the Starbucks swill, buy yourself a Macro Economics book.

Tax cuts for a corporation like ExxonMobil, that I do have some intimate familiarity with, largely affects the marginal projects that they would choose to either do or otherwise not do due to the additional tax load that has to be covered. ExxonMobil is making billions already on a volume commodity business that they manage to near perfection. democrats would not know anything about that. A Tax cut or tax increase only changes specifically what they do or don’t do.

Increase ExxonMobil’s taxes, and they will invariably just cancel projects, tell older workers that they will be retiring sooner rather than later, lay off a bunch of middle class workers, and pay LESS corporate federal taxes to the Federal Government on fewer profitable projects. In general, they would simply do less with less, of what they would normally be doing otherwise. That is what u would have changed.

As a corporate entity they, ExxonMobil, are still who they are unless the goal is to nationalize them sooner rather than later. I personally don’t see the benefit in this, to the employee, to the stockholder, to the bondholder, to the corporate entity, to the Federal or State Government, or TO THE CONSUMER IN THE FORM OF KEEPING PRODUCT PRICES LOW. A good democrat of course, sees blots, goofy shapes, psychedelic colors and a whole lot of strange stuff that I can’t see, but WHO THE HELL DOES THIS BENEFIT?

Democrats have the WH, the Senate, the House, the Print Media, Television, practically everything except Radio. Don’t like the wars, then stop them. Mustapha could make one of his lofty, idealistic, America Hate-ing, George Bush was my evil predecessor speech, and then end the damn thing. Rafael, my guitar time is starting to be compromised here. Have a nice night.

The left likes to keep minorities enslaved via government entitlements. The better to control them and gain their vote. The left is nothing but a bunch of racist douchebaggers.

It's a good thing we have people like Beck pointing this out.

Oh, and I guess I should sign this post as a disgruntled Democrats to balance out all these so-called disgruntled Republicans.

What the Hell? Hey Glenn, look around you'll be looking at the walls of your colon. You have yet to hit bottom pal, you had better start praying for the right wing nuts. Remember the Republicans never do anything for this country, they only do things to this country. whiteagle38

Glenn Beck has gone off the deep end. He's now a Truther, in addition to being a birther.

You're right lefty loons! Glenn Beck is outlandish, not like Kieth Olberman,Rachael Madnow and Ed Shultz.

The loon mantra-FOX sucks, msnbc rocks--except in the ratings.

Paulo

RE steve and his posts about beck having Michael Scheuer on as a guest: remember when he was the progressive left's unimpeachable source of authority for their anti-bush, anti-GWOT blogging?

thismodernworld(dot)com/3085
commondreams(dot)org/headlines05/0208-13(dot)htm
nytimes(dot)com/gst/fullpage(dot)html?res=9807E4DD1230F937A35754C0A9609C8B63
http://www.dailykos(dot)com/comments/2006/8/11/101550/831/24#c24
dailykos(dot)com/story/2007/2/25/212330/112

etc.

and, when did beck ever have taitz on? never did.

uh, let's see. what else?

not caring about whether the u.s. hosts the olympics: treason.

marching in an astroturf "antiwar" rally organized by saddam's attorney, ramsy clarke: "dissent is the highest form of patriotism".

rafael alberi was also funny.specifically the parenthetical qualification he had to append to his bush-era rhetoric: "Start two wars (one based on lies) ..."

of course he remembers it differently. they were both based on lies because he, along with more than a third of democratics, believes that bush did 911 as a reichstag fire excuse to invade afghanistan so as to build a gas pipeline, or something. this was the substance of the first half of michael moore's Fahrenheit 911 and it was the sort of nonsense Scheuer would spout off back in '06 when progressives would beg him to speak at their conferences.

this reversal of progressives now professing to be appalled by conspiracy theories and obtuse assertions is hard to reconcile for many progressives even, as evidenced by the third comment in this thread where the poster says something along the lines of "no! you want the reichstag fire!"

Glenn Beck is an entertainer. He is working the crowd to get them to listen to him and buy his books etc. He is no different than any of the right or left entertainers on the radio or TV. He has no education beyond a couple of college classes. He is only interested in getting people to listen. He isn't that different than Billy Mays. Except he hides behind the mask of being a 'broadcaster'.

Jonah Goldberg: In defense of Glenn Beck
http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2009/10/column-in-defense-of-glenn-beck-.html

Who are these freaks that spend any time listening to Mr. Beck?

They should be sterilized to stop their genes from spreading any further.

I'm just saying...

Posted by: Don B. Sea | October 6, 2009 6:04 PM
Dr. Mengele, I presume.

Well that was a hard-hitting profile... I guess things like Beck saying Obama is a racist who hates "White Culture" (despite being half white) don't merit mentioning...

Hey Glenn, my all-powerful imaginary friends can beat up your all-powerful imaginary friends.

I find it so interesting and ironic to see how people from the left trash Beck, and others like him, who express their views & beliefs. Growing up I was told that liberals wants diversity on many different levels and that included ideas & freedom of expression. Now I've come to realize how hypocritical liberals are when they try to shout down & shut down others that don't share THEIR beliefs. LOL...people are people and I don't care what side of the political spectrum you're on...I encourage everyone and all to express their thoughts and don't worry about what leftist elites think of you.

United States of Israel.
Treasury is Bankrupt.
American Holocaust.
9/11 False Flag.
James Blunt,
No Bravery

The liberal meltdown continues as O-man confirms he is a ZERO.

Beck merely points out a few hard truths and the left comes unglued.

That is why his ratings are high. The truth hurts.

I just love the anger and sheer hatred that spews from liberals like pea green soup when they talk about Glenn Beck

Start two wars (one based on lies) and then proceed to commit war crimes,

I would like to start by identifying myself as a conservative. I am currently serving in Iraq and am not a "nutty tea bagger" as so many of the liberal commentors have labeled all conservatives. I am not Repoublican or Democrat, I am an independent conservative. What I find so offensive here is that the liberal comments appear to want to stiffle the very freedom of speech they enjoy by putting a gag on not only Glenn Beck, but Rush and all the other conservative commentators. I find this hypocritical of them as they so dearly love to hide behind the right of free speech when they throw hate speech out at anyone they disagree with. I personally do not like the fringe elements on either side of the aisle that attempt to drown the view points of the other. In order to debate there must be at least two differing opinions represented. All the issues we are facing in our nation today MUST be debated, and NO ONE should be affraid of a differing opinion.

But as I read the opinions expressed by the liberal side they revert to the personal attack against those that express a differing opinion. This tells me that they have no factual information to present an opposing argument to what Glenn Beck is saying and therefore can be dismissed.

A FACTUAL history lesson for those that like to equate the conservative (whether Christian or not) to the Nazi Party through either direct statement or through innuendo. The Nazi Party was the National Socialist Party in Germany and was solidly rooted in the LEFT-WING politics of the day. Not the Right Wing. The Nazi Party was the radical far left wing of the German Socialist Democtratic Party that had established itself in the 1860s. They are the ones who established Germany as a Socialist state with government controls over every facit of their society to include the major manufacturing sectors of their domestic economy, like health care, the auto industry and the banking industry amoungst others. Sound familiar?

Long live the Bill of Rights and open, honest and FACTUAL debate.

"sell out the American taxpayers to Military Industrial Complex cronies like Haliburton, Blackwater and KBR."

Well thank gawd Obama has turned that trend around and is now selling out the American taxpayers to GM, Citygroup, Bank of America, Bear Stearns, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and my favorite ACORN just to name the few we know of.

I happen to agree with Beck,and God
only knows who is on the other line?
I happen to believe,that you cannot put any man or woman with no leadership ability,governing ability or
any military experience in charge of the U.S. and expect anything good to happen.That said,I think Bush was even worse,and I was foolish enough to vote for him twice.I feel in retrospect
Al Gore would have been a fine leader.As for Obama,he simply lacks,in my opinion the credentials
to head up the most powerful nation on earth.In electing Obama,
we were a nation voting on the rebound,and would have voted for
Lassie or Barney,before we elected another republican leader.I feel that
Bush almost destroyed the republican party,and set up our nation to vote out of fear,and loathing,rather than vote for a real leader for our country.And as far as Beck being crazy?Yes,just like a
Fox.
Thanks for listening

John D. describes those of us that don't think just like him: Such ignorant, worthless people they are.

Golly John, maybe you'd bless my ignorant worthlessness with an example of the wisdom and insight of your Glenn Beck godlet?

The sad fact is that none of you libtards know that the U.S. is a Republic...........

The first Email to this article is wrong. This teabagger's I.Q. (mine) has been tested twice at 140.

Beck (and Rush and Palin) speak for Mr. and Mrs. Middle America who are horrified at seeing our government slide so far to the left we hear Lenin talking - "Redistribute the wealth". "Go to jail if you don't buy insurance"

Beck is a demogogue | October 6, 2009 4:11 PM "A government where liberal thought will be permanently supressed, ans where minorities will be permanently oppressed. "

Uniformity is precisely how humans survive, "conform or be cast out", cultural Darwinism. Remember when America was great? When people came here to melt in one big pot and become...of all things American? To share one recipe for Apple pie? Our nation is now divided beyond any hope of repair.

You think China is going to become a big softee multicultural insanely liberal society like the USA did after America spends itself into an early grave? Fat chance.

As I read the comments from the left I remember a time not long ago when I too would have responded the same way.. having been brought up in Chicago's Bridgeport area it was a give in you were a Yellow Dog Democrat..
However, I always complained that the media in Chicago, IL or anywhere NEVER spoke the truth.. no one in the city even asked logical questions and just buried their heads in the sand..I started out watching Lou Dobbs and Glen Beck on CNN but then CNN crawled into bed with the Democrats and the hard questions and reporting stopped.. I was happy when Glen Beck surfaced on FOX.. asking the same questions I have been asking and connecting why the answers were not forth coming.. I don't care what names the left calls me.. or their Thug tactics.. I KNOW the truth when I hear it.. and the extreme LEFT is bonkers that they lose at least 500 followers a day because of it.. it hurts but so what the People and that is a majority of Democrats, Independents and Republicans want their country BACK and are willing now thanks to Beck to stand up and take it back.. He might not be pretty but at least he's honest..

Need more Glenn Becks if for no other reason, to keep the heat on The Obama administration

"When people came here to melt in one big pot and become...of all things American? To share one recipe for Apple pie? Our nation is now divided beyond any hope of repair."

No, I don't remember that America. It never existed. Instead we had an america where anyone who wasn't a straight white male anglo saxon protestant was a second class citizen at best. Enforced conformity is tyranny, nothing more, nothing less. If tyhat's what Beck and His fiollowers stand for, ten they stand for tyranny, not freedom or the American dream. Frankly, if that's what they stand for, they are no better than the Communist Chinese, so what does it matter?

Ken G.
So, in spite of your 140 IQ, you believe that if you don't buy insurance you will go to jail?

You may indeed have a 140 IQ, but apparently the voices in your head do not.

"The idea is killing them faster than they can kill you."

Ummm....actually......no, Glenn. You can stop pretending to be Christian now. Your statement practically endorses genocide against Muslims.

Last I checked, the Christian law says, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Not, "Do it TO them, before they can do it to you."

But don't worry, Glenn. I'll still pray for you to see the light. God knows you need the help.

"Remember when America was great? When people came here to melt in one big pot and become...of all things American? To share one recipe for Apple pie? Our nation is now divided beyond any hope of repair."

RN,
Perhaps you are recalling the Jim Crow/apartheid period when, somehow, many Americans of Asian, African, and American Indian backgrounds were not allowed into the 'melting pot'??

Long live the Bill of Rights and open, honest and FACTUAL debate.

Posted by: JM BROWN | October 7, 2009 4:13 AM

But the United States would be a much better place right now if FDR had gotten the "Second Bill of Rights" passed. Too bad he died before he could make it happen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bill_of_Rights

Lou,

I NEVER knew that 'Shuckin' and Jivin' was yet another race thing. I apologize for my racism. I will need to tell Pancho, my Jewish compadre, that he is a racist also. That's his standard greeting, as in we need to do some of that. Looks like we are just a bunch of racists ~ Pancho the Jew and Django the Mongrel. What other vernacular expressions may be racist that we may not be aware of? Pancho needs to know too. Damn Racists.

I have a few Beck like questions I would like to raise:

1. Why is Beck such a racist? Why does he hate non-white people?

2. Who is at the other end of Beck's blackberry? Is he getting advice from skinheads and neo-nazis?

3. Why does Beck want to destroy our democratic system of government and bring about a radical rightwing dictatorship?

I'm certainly not attacking Beck or making wild accusations, I'm just asking the questions that need to be asked in the name of free and open political debate.

I do not watch Glenn Beck, FNC, or MSNBC. But, I do find it funny how the left start acting and sounding like little kids in the school yard once they hear the name Glenn Beck. And using the term teabagger just shows who really has a low IQ here.

THANX Jim Brown @4:13 a.m.

Glenn Beck asks questions, as does O’Reilly, as does Lou Dobbs. Roland Martin is a good defender of the Administration, but he does ask a few questions. Even Katie Couric will occasionally ask a challenging question. I’m ecstatic when she does.

The Left just does not get it. I have no reason to think that they ever will. Now that they are in charge, we are just supposed to passively swallow down everything that they would want to do and have a News Media that only works for them. Thanks for your sacrifice and your service to our country in Iraq.

Why would anyone ever care what a former bong hittin', coke sniffin', radio disc jockey has to say? Ever! GB is groovin' on the disaffection of a bunch of dolts who have never had an original thought in their entire lives. Go Glenn Go!

Everyone needs a hero - idiots included.

Of course Django falls back on the tired excuse "I didn't know that has racial connotations." . Followed up by the ever popular "but I have minority friends." Yeah right buddy.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/11/martin-shucking-and-jiving-and-the-campaign-trail/

When I googled Glen Beck and read the wikipedia profile I quite surprised...
He barely made it through high school and his college career lasted only weeks!! He is a self professed racist; drug addict and alcoholic! His lack of formal education along with his addictions makes me wonder if he has the smarts to really understand most of what he rails against...
Isn't there someone smarter out there who really understands what's happening in the world that FOX can employ?

"The idea is killing them faster than they can kill you."

Ummm....actually......no, Glenn. You can stop pretending to be Christian now. Your statement practically endorses genocide against Muslims.

Last I checked, the Christian law says, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Not, "Do it TO them, before they can do it to you."

But don't worry, Glenn. I'll still pray for you to see the light. God knows you need the help.

Posted by: Davey S | October 7, 2009 11:03 AM

What a bunch of nonsense...
So is war ever justified- ?
If you say no- you are a pacifist, and, -with all due respect- exclude yourself from the debate. Since you really only offer one ideology based solution.
If you say yes- how else do you fight a war other than with the goal of ending the war as quickly as possible?
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Ending the war means capturing, killing or making sure, your enemy, the people that are trying to kill you- stop doing that as soon as you possibly can... if you are not committed to doing that, then you should pull everyone of our soldiers back today.
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Obama’s deer in the headlights reaction to the advice of the guy he put in charge of developing and recommending a strategy is really not surprising or out of character…he is doing the only thing he knows how to do well-- paying attention only to the political impacts of his decisions regarding war –he is voting present.

RN,
Perhaps you are recalling the Jim Crow/apartheid period when, somehow, many Americans of Asian, African, and American Indian backgrounds were not allowed into the 'melting pot'??

Posted by: C.Morris | October 7, 2009 11:05 AM

You nailed him there all right- C Morris how inciteful your post is... ignorant and shortsighted, but inciteful.

Here, all this time I thought we were a perfect country and that all of the 100's of millions of people that live here all do the right thing and everything is fair all the time for everyone. Thanks for pointing out that we actually do not fit your arrogant view of what we as a country should be- I for one, will try to do better, thanks to your post.
Show me a country that has done even half of what this country has done for humanity in our relatively short time of existence... people all over the world, even in the worst of times, Jim crow, depression, two world wars, still sacrificed everything to come here...
This mean spirited, racist country has lost hundreds of thousands of men over the years to fighting things like ending the institution of slavery here in our country, Nazism in Western Europe and oppressive communism in Eastern Europe...I am sure there most have been some underlying racist reasons why our parents, grandparents and ancestors sacrificed and died to fight those things...

When are you fools going to realize that there is not a single politician in this country - right, left, progressive, libertarian, or independent, that gives a damn about what's good for you or this country?

You bicker and you argue and call each other names, while they laugh at you peasants and count the endless supply of money they've stolen from each one of us?

Wake up fools. Obama is no different than Bush. He just belongs to a different crime family. You "libtards" are no better than the "rednecks" you vilify. We're ALL being undermined by the scum called our "leaders".

When you idiots stop bickering at each other and realize that, only THEN can we save our country.

Posted by: heartburn | October 7, 2009 12:48 PM

YOU talk about "one ideology based solution"?
Beck is a WAR FIRST AND ONLY idiot like you. No rational, inrtelligent thought ever enters his head.

Thank GOD we have a president now who takes the time to evaluate the advice of the generals in combat. And doesn't just jump salivating, with guns a-blazing, looking for false glory like he just came out of some Frederick Remington painting.

I don't have to respond to your "Am I a pacifist" question. It is irrelevant. But to claim I don't have the right to express an opinion just because I believe ALL peaceful options should ALWAYS be exhausted before we go to war? Ehat a hypocrite you are. I thought you guys claimed the patent on free speech.

Whether a war-mongerer like Beck or a pacifist like Gandhi, all opinions are still valid. I would never presume to tell you to "exclude yourself from the debate".

But even if we must and RARELY go to war, shouldn't the idea still be to take as few lives as possible? Even enemies lives? Beck's opinion appears to be to just murder and wipe out the enemy, even if there is no threat against your own life.

Beck claims to be Christian. But Christ said, "Offer NO RESISTANCE to one who is evil". And to "Love your enemy". And he said "Blessed our those who die in my name." Not once did he ever even suggest it is o.k. to KILL in his name.

It's like the old phrase "you can't take it with you". Conservatives care more about protecting their wealth and property than they ever really care about human life.

That is your problem.

Heartburn, the absolute quickest way to win the Wars in Iraq and Iran would be a massive nuclear attack killing every last person in both countries. Is that the war strategy you support? Or do you just want massive conventional bombing without concern for the loss of civilian lives? Tell us heartburn, which is closer to the Christian beliefs that Beck refers to, pacifism or the widespread slaughter that you and Beck support?

heartburn, in your opinion, should I be grateful that my ancestors were brought to this country as slaves, bought and sold as property, raped by their white masters, while those same white masters profitted from my ancestors forced labor for generations? Am I supposed to forget that more American died defending their rights to hold by ancestors as slaves than died trying to free them?

Should I be grateful that my parents had to attend second class schools because of the color of their skin? Should I be grateful that they weren't allowed to use the same bathrooms as whites, eat in the same cafe's as whites, and were prevented from voting for years?

Am I supposed to look back at those years with nostalgia? Am I supposed to be proud that those things happened? Am I suposed to say that my ancestors suffering was worth it because the US because of the other things the US has done?

heartburn, in your opinion, should I be grateful that my ancestors were brought to this country as slaves, bought and sold as property, raped by their white masters, while those same white masters profitted from my ancestors forced labor for generations? Am I supposed to forget that more American died defending their rights to hold by ancestors as slaves than died trying to free them?

Should I be grateful that my parents had to attend second class schools because of the color of their skin? Should I be grateful that they weren't allowed to use the same bathrooms as whites, eat in the same cafe's as whites, and were prevented from voting for years?

Am I supposed to look back at those years with nostalgia? Am I supposed to be proud that those things happened? Am I suposed to say that my ancestors suffering was worth it because the US because of the other things the US has done?

Posted by: Non-white | October 7, 2009 2:32 PM

No to all of your questions- and you have clearly missed my point. Are your examples of what happened to your ancestors the only representations of this country??

Over all - do you see this country as good or not? Might be simplistic, but overall despite some ( and current ) periods of really bad things... I believe this country has way more to be proud of than not.

You can choose to view it in whatever way you wish..

Heartburn, the absolute quickest way to win the Wars in Iraq and Iran would be a massive nuclear attack killing every last person in both countries. Is that the war strategy you support? Or do you just want massive conventional bombing without concern for the loss of civilian lives? Tell us heartburn, which is closer to the Christian beliefs that Beck refers to, pacifism or the widespread slaughter that you and Beck support?

Posted by: Who would Jesus Bomb? | October 7, 2009 2:06 PM

Nice leap! You will have to take it on faith (pun intended) that I am definitely not the one to represent Christianity. Having said that, your premise completely ignores my condition that we should
(Ironically - unlike the radical Islamists practicing their religion of peace) go after only the people trying to kill us and our soldiers.

That is your problem.

Posted by: Davey S | October 7, 2009 2:00 PM

Sorry - your completely wrong.

Obama is not being deliberate he is being political, and frankly, dishonest whilein the meantime we may be losing the war.
Obama had told us in March- that he , after meeting with top advisor and military people - had COMPLETED a review of his Afghan strategy -( so he has 5-6 months to "evaluate the advice of the generals in combat").

As recently as August he proclaimed the Afghan war critical and a war of necessity...And keep in mind that since March- when he claimed to have a clear strategy in place, that he had one single conversation with the guy running the show in Afghanistan-- ??
Maybe he could have forgone on or two rounds of golf , or perhaps a completly wasteful trip to New York to take his wife to dinner in order to squeeze and instead had a talk about the war he campaigned on as being the "right" war?

And no- sorry- if you are a committed pacisfist- ( believe me when I say that I repect this view point) you really don't have much left to say once the fighting starts... other than stop. US forces winning or losing are essentially equal results.

I don't read Becks opinion as kill em all- I read it as If you make the decsion to fight- you go all out and protect our troops and civilians as much as you possibly can- this can only be accomplished by committing as many resources, funding and troops needed to make the war as short as possible. Becks opinion is not an irrational one.

we should
(Ironically - unlike the radical Islamists practicing their religion of peace) go after only the people trying to kill us and our soldiers.

Posted by: heartburn | October 7, 2009 3:30 PM
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What does a terrorist look like?

Heartburn, General McChrystal had input into the Afghan strategy discussions in March. However conditions in Afghanistan have changed. McChrystal's opinion of the number of troops needed has changed, and he has increased his request as a result. That is part of what is being discussed. Now, we all know from the Iraq fiasco that Republicans believe in "Staying the Course" with a strategy no matter what changes occur in the meantime. They stubbornly stuck by a failed strategy in Iraq for years, even though it was obvious that the strategy needed to be re examined. That is a recipe for failure. The strategy for Afhghanistan is not something that should be discussed and reviewed once, and then never discussed again. It is, in fact, a constant process. If we stuck by the March decisions without any thought of review, the answer to General McChrystal would be an immediate "No, you have the troops you requested in March. The stategy is set., the decisions are already made." However that would be a terrible way to handle it. (Incidently that was how Rumsfeld pretty much handled Iraq). However in a rationally run war, it is appropriate when a general requests more troops to ask questions like, Why do we need more troops? Have conditions chhanged? Why have conditions changed? Is a troop increase the best way to deal with the changed conditions, or is a change in the way the troops currently in the theater are used more appropriate? What are the underlying causes of the changed conditions? Are they priimarily military, or are they non-military in nature? if non-military, is a military solution the best response? Those are questions that need to be addressed by not only Generals, but by diplomats, economists, and others. It's not in any way a simple decision, nor should it be treated that way. Historically almost every wartime President has challenged Generals who demand more troops to justify that demand, rather than immediately agreeing as you seem to believe a President should.

"And no- sorry- if you are a committed pacisfist- ( believe me when I say that I repect this view point) you really don't have much left to say once the fighting starts."

Posted by: heartburn | October 7, 2009 4:24 PM

By that theory, then if you are COMMITTED TO WAR, you have NO PLACE in peace talks. See how silly that sounds?

And yet the same politicians who start a war, will subsequently discuss terms of peace with the enemy. So why wouldn't someone who is against war still have a place to bring peace back?

By that theory, then if you are COMMITTED TO WAR, you have NO PLACE in peace talks. See how silly that sounds?

And yet the same politicians who start a war, will subsequently discuss terms of peace with the enemy. So why wouldn't someone who is against war still have a place to bring peace back?

Posted by: Davey S | October 8, 2009 6:48 AM
Actually it is not silly--- if you are committed to war-and already in the middle of a war you do have no place at the table to negotiating peace- your point of view would be counter productive. If you are committed to pacifism you have no place at the table to determine war strategy- your POV would be equally counter productive. So either end of the spectrum can be legitimate perspectives, but also have specific (limited) roles. When you are actually in the middle of war, pacifism would have no role in managing it, or determining strategy since the only strategy available to you would be to stop-(unless you can convince the enemy to do the same) stopping may cause the circumstances to worsen, embolden your enemy, or in the case of Afghanistan (and Iraq) throw the civilian population to the dogs.

The issue is whether or not war is ever justified...my contention is that it is, and I believe Beck's point of view is legit, in that once you have already committed yourself to war and are in the middle of the conflict you pursue ending the war and destroying your enemy as quickly and decisively as possible. Hard to think that given what we know about wars just in this century that you could believe that war in some cases is not only justified, but in some cases an obligation . We have also learned that war strategy that is determined by politics usually end with disastrous results.

Posted by: Lou | October 7, 2009 6:02 PM

Lou- of course things on the ground change- but this would be a non- issue if Obama had any consistemt communications with his general in the last 6 months...or even in the last six months since the report of the troop request was leaked. If the war was such an important effort for Obama duringthe campaign, wouldn't you think it was worth a meeting or two a week with his general to at least get a status on his so-called strategy he announced in March? This gap makes Obama either a liar because he never had a strategy when he proclaimed he did, or a really bad executive in not making sure that his strategy was going as planned.

How much longer would the decsion to address the generals request for more troops be delayed if the report had never been leaked- Obama is only addressing ( or appearing to) because the news of the request became public.

Heartburn, you have no idea whats been communicated and what has not, nor do you have any idea of how the military communicates. General McChrystal does not report directly to the President of the United States. He reports to his theater commander: General Petreaus, Commander of US Central Command. General Petreaus reports to the Joint Chiefs Of Staff, who then report to Secretary of Defense Gates and President Obama. It is important for information to filter up, and down, through the chain of command in this way. While General McChrystal is well informed about the needs of his individual command, General Petreaus, and the Joint Chiefs need to evaluate how those needs relate to the other needs and resources the military has both in the theater, and world wide. McChrystal has been allowed to make his case directly to the President. The President does meet with the appropriate military advisors regularly : The Joint Chiefs. They are who The President issues his orders to the Joint Chiefs, they are who reports directly to the President. also speaks with the Theater commander more often than he speaks to the ground commander. That's the way the system works, and it works that way for a reason. During World War 2 FDR, didn't communicate directly with General Patton on a regular basis. He talked to his Chief of Staff, George Marshall, who talked to the theater commander, Eisenhower.

There is no gap, other than the gap in your knowledge.

What does a terrorist look like?

Posted by: sensible | October 7, 2009 5:32 PM

Before or after they blow themselves and whatever innocent people are nearby up?

Lou,

I did take a look at your link. It seems that Andrew Cuomo, liberal democrat, used the term “shuckin’ and jiving”, hereafter referred to as s&j so as to not offend. Roland Martin, a CNN guy, a Houston guy, and a guy of a certain race that we can never be critical of, called A.C. out on his, like mine, unintentional offensive use of the s&j term. A.C., as is the convention, had to apologize. One of the posters on this link made the comment that the problem is really Liberals’ over-sensitivity to, what at times must seem like every possible thing under the sun. I would surely have to agree with that.

Lou, once again, I, Django, am a mongrel. My dad was a Florida Creek or Seminole based on the pictures and letters in his possession at the time of his demise. My mother is a Louisiana Creole, part black, part French. I was made to read history books, math books, and chemistry books, by my very tough disciplinarian dad in my youth, and not be pre-occupied with race and progeny, none of which I had anything to do with selecting anyway. In my racial non-identity I am not familiar with all the Race Class Do’s and the Don’ts. Salma Hayek Lite, a pretty Latina from Michoacan, independently affirms that I seem to defy racial classification. For lack of anything worth more thought, she calls me “Latino Guy”, probably as a nod to my deep affection and weakness for her. Mongrel-ism has been very good to me. On that, God and I are/were of one mind.

I am FREE, Free I tell you, Free to like baseball instead of another sport, Free to play the guitar instead of a more percussive instrument, Free to like classic rock, jazz, blues, but not hip-hop, Free to pursue Mathematics because I can generally understand it at a level that others don’t, Free to think through Crap and be a conservative Republican that likes Glenn Beck and Bill O’Reilly. Don’t think that I would change any of that even if I could. For sure, just the act of being born in America, despite all of its flaws, was an excellent choice on my part. A damn racist mongrel, overly-attached to being Free, I guess that would have to be me.

Heartburn,
Bless U, for arguing with all of these damn socialists, pacifists, and Kool-ade drinkers.

Gee Django, thank goodness we have guys like you around to explain that those who are concerned about racism and it's affects, and point out instances of racist speech are the bad guys who are just oppressing the freedoms of everyone else. I guess your'e right that we're all too sensative and should just go back to the good ole' pre- PC days, where we would have just called someone of your background either a Sp*c, a N****R or an Inj*n, I'm sure you'd be be much happier in a world where racist speech is never corrected, or commented on. Truly, how did we ever let evil liberals bring us to a point where we treated all races with verbal respect, rather than mocking and slurring them? If only it was 1950 again, and we could go back to using those all american racial slurs in freedom. I

Lou,

This could be progress. 1950 was a rough time to be living in many parts of America, especially in America’s 4th largest city, and be black, or Latino, or have the jangled up blood and genes like I have. I am well aware of that. Fast forward to 1960, and if anything, it was probably worse, since the Civil Rights Movement was underway. By 1970, a little bit of progress could be reported. Now it is 2009. We are 44 years post Civil Rights Act of 1964/1965 and I would contend that there has been a lot of progress. At some point, we need to acknowledge the progress and not call everyone that we disagree with a racist. I do not know if it is obvious or not, in a Swamp, but name callin’, on a personal level, would never be my thing anyway. I do call socialists, “socialists”, liberals, “liberals” or “leftists” and interchange it all, but it is in reference to a philosophy of governing, not a personal invective based on someone’s heritage.

I don’t think that it is just my point of view, but in the year 2009 Conservatism does not equate to racist. Certainly, it is not a tenet of my conservatism. Similarly, I do not make the connection that to be racially tolerant, u just HAVE to be a Liberal. Colin Powell very eloquently made this point as a speaker during the 1992 Republican Convention much better than I ever could. Absolutely I want to see people make the extra effort to treat other people with dignity and respect, but my political opposites need to recognize also that sometimes we will disagree, and it is not about race unless the other party just insists that it can only be about race. My Freedom Thing was only to say that I cannot be pre-packaged based on race. There are those that always want to do this for/to you. Not me.

If Obama would just give an occasional nod to the United States Constitution, I would even retire the Mustapha Mond thing. That is the number one cause of my heartburn in this moment.

Lower Taxes – Guilty! Energy Development for America – Guilty! U.S. Constitution Supporter – Guilty! Israel Supporter – Guilty! America Supporter – Guilty! Global Warming Really Is A Joke – Guilty! No Moral Equivalency for Terror – Guilty! Glenn Beck / Bill O’Reilly Fan – Guilty! Racist – I think not unless someone just insists otherwise. Lou, I hope that we are making a little bit of progress here.

Errata. The Colin Powell Convention speech was in 1996 not 1992. It had a Houston flavor but actually emanated from San Diego. My bad.

Isn't it strange that Glenn Beck NEVER talks anymore about those dogs (Pit Bulls)? I'm supposed to believe this is a coincidence?