Head-banging: Guantanamo's 'juke-box': The Swamp
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Chicago Tribune
Posted October 23, 2009 7:00 AM
The Swamp

by Mark Silva

Waterboarding is one thing.

But the Bee Gees? And Nine Inch Nails?

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Saturday night Head-banging taken to a new level: A coalition of rock musicians, including Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails (pictured here) and Tom Morello, formerly of the band Rage Against the Machine, has joined in a Freedom of Information request to learn what loud music may have been used in the torture of detainees at the U.S.-military-run prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba - a practice which the Obama administration, intent on closing Guantanamo, says no longer exists.

"The fact that music I helped create was used in crimes against humanity sickens me," Morello said in a statement. "We need to end torture and close Guantanamo now."

A coalition of musicians, including Reznor, R.E.M., Pearl Jam, Jackson Browne, Rise Against, Rosanne Cash, Billy Bragg and the Roots has announced they are joining the National Campaign to Close Guantanamo They also have initiated a formal protest of the use of music in conjunction with alleged torture at Guantanamo.

Retired Gen. Robert Gard, a critic of the Bush administration's practices at Guantanamo, says: "I sympathize for the musicians whose music was used without their knowledge as part of the Bush administration's misguided policies."

Sympathize with the musicians?

"Having these acclaimed artists join the campaign to close Guantanamo will help ignite a prairie fire of grassroots support across the nation. We are thrilled and grateful to have them aboard" said Tom Andrews, a former congressman from Maine and director of the National Campaign To Close Guantanamo.

The musicians have signed on to a FOIA request for records of what records where played at Guantanamo which the Washington-based National Security Archive has filed.

"At Guantanamo, the U.S. government turned a jukebox into an instrument of torture," said Thomas Blanton, executive director of the National Security Archive. "The musicians and the public have the right to know how an expression of popular culture was transformed into an enhanced interrogation technique."

The group already has found 20 declassified documents referring to the use of "loud" music to "create futility" among some uncooperative detainees at Guantanamo. A 2004 Defense Department report stated that the "futility technique included the playing of Metallica, Britney Spears and Rap music."

"We signed onto the campaign in complete support of President Obama and the military leaders who have called for an end to torture and to close Guantanamo," R.E.M said in a group statement. "As long as Guantanamo stays open, America's legacy around the world will continue to be the torture that went on there.''

The <strong>FOIA request on Guantanamo and related music-as-torture documents can be found at the link here: .



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They also played the music from the Meow Mix commercials too. That would have driven me to insanity.


May I suggest adding Barbra Streisand to the torture rotation or looping Hillard Clinton's cackle.


WAAA! WAAA! Who cares? These people are entertainers. Period.
Get over yourselves.


You have got to be kiding me!! Get a clue you spoiled rock stars. These people are tying to kill Americans, what part of this don't you get. Have you seen what they have done to Americans they have kidnapped, ever see them behead a person with a hand held knife. It's not a pretty picture. Just keep making music and leave protecting Americans to the people who can deal with it and quit trying to weakin our efforts.


Heck, "the playing of Metallica, Britney Spears and Rap music" turns a jukebox into an instrument of torture anywhere in the world, not just at Gitmo.

This is probably what has these "musicians" shorts in a knot; not that their "music" was used at Gitmo, but the idea that someone thought that it was really irritating.


You have got to be kidding! Torture?

On the other hand, some of the music by these musicians is quite disturbing and I suppose borders on torture. I do recall being tortured when forced to listen to some opera. It was sheer agony.

These days I am tortured by the sounds of Christmas music even though Halloween hasn't passed.

I think these musicians should be put in an elevator and forced to listen to elevator music.


I had a hard time keeping myself from giggling when reading this story, even while staying mindful to the horrors of torture. As a classical musician, I remember feeing slightly miffed when I came upon store fronts, alleys and public restrooms piped with loud classical music and opera in order to discourage loiterers. Talk about "casting pearls among swine."


I'm a huge music fan, but these idiots need to get over themselves. My hope is that the next terrorist attack only affects liberal music artists and actors/actresses only. We'll see what kind of tune they're singing then.


That guy looks like a terrorist - lock him up!


Hey, I'm tortured every time some thug gangbanger drives by going "Dum-Dum-Dum Du-Du-Dum" with his stupid 12 inchers blasting out of his car.

As far as these 'rock' musicians, they're a group of smug leftists feigning insult. I'd be proud if my music was used against people wishing to do us harm, I think it's a riot actually!


Torture? Torture would be to force people to listen to that :"Kars for Kids" radio ad.


Rock star and slug Morello is like a gay guy shouting out demands for equal rights - let alone his music stinks and isn't in my mind even considered music. And I do not say this off the cuff, yes ... I was in a cover band in the 80's and know what musicians are all about - I decided in my mid twenties to get a real life and contribute to the advancement and better direction of society - not the deterioration that Morello and his like-minded associates make to it. HEY LOSERS ... get a life.


I would be honored if I was a musician and they used my music in a non-lethal manner to extract information used to prevent terrorism. It's not as if someone can kill somebody with loud music.

Seriously, Vedder, Morella, and Reznor need to stop whining and get a life. Their music was used to prevent innocent people from getting hurt!


give me a break. these people locked up want to harm America and don't care if they die in the process. But let's close down gitmo and oh my god ... god forbid ... play music to interrogate them! ... none of these bands or people against gitmo have lost anyone in 9/11 or in the war. Get over it people.


"The fact that music I helped create was used in crimes against humanity sickens me"
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Actually, the creation of his "music" was the crime against humanity.


Using the word, "torture," a bit loosely, aren't they. Literally millions of teens and brain-dead adults pay $100 or more to listen to this kind of "torture." Ranks right up there with the air-conditioned cells, the prayer rugs not pointed in the correct direction, and the
quality of food on which all the terrorists are becoming Michael Moore look-alikes. Having to look like Moore IS torture!


I think these musicians just want to check if royalties were paid for the music that was played.


DD, some years ago I was manning the Boy Scout booth at our town's annual Labor Day Weekend festival. A few feet away was a band playing some rock music, a bit too loudly for my taste. Then they played the opening bars from Richard Strauss's "Also Sprach Zarathustra." All of a sudden, it wasn't too loud any more.


Springsteen is more torturous to look at than to listen to, but he's no vase of posies to listen to either.

But only in America is being force-fed music considered "torture" by our simpering drips. It's used universally, and I don't remember anyone having a problem with it when we used it in Panama to get Noriega to knuckle. Throw it at folks who had been trying to American soldiers in A'stan? Wah; cry me a river. [I'd-a said "send in the clowns", but this was already an article about them, and it would have been redundant].


Shouldn't we be happy that the military is using bad music to torture instead of far worse methods that our enemies use? What country has lighter interrogation methods than the U.S? Doesn't this writer understand how good we have it, here?


If playing bad music is torture, I would like to know just how far these "artists" would be willing to go when we interrogate suspected or known terrorists? Can we make them even a little bit uncomfortable, or should we just ask nicely?


Much of modern music is torture to the ears no matter where its played. Maybe the ACLU should call for investigations into Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, Kanye West, etc. Why is it only considered a problem when we torture terrorists?


How silly. Merely underscores the fact that the "enhanced interrogation techniques" were not torture at all, merely an attempt to impose mild pressure on hardened homicidal maniacs. The harshest form of interrogation--ducking terrorists' heads under the water for a few seconds was used on only THREE people. Watching the likes of Obama and Durbin criticize their own country for "torture," the world's terrorists scorn and contempt of their naivte and weakness inspire them to never give up.


I agree with ALK. Keep playing that "1 877 Cars for Kids" song over and over, and you'll have confessions in not time. I'd rather be waterboarded.


these musicians aren't mad about the "torture." That's just a cover. What they really want is to figure a way to collect more royalties.


I think Bruce Willis summed it up best in ths quote from The last Boy Scout.

Milo "But just once, I would like to hear you scream in pain..."

Joe Hallenbeck (Bruce Willis): "Play some rap music"


Let's just hope that Pelosi received the playlist in advance from the CIA.


There is no political solution
To our troubled evolution
Have no faith in constitution
There is no bloody revolution

Our so-called leaders speak
With words they try to jail you
They subjugate the meek
But it's the rhetoric of failure

Props: Tom, Trent, Marilyn, Michael, Eddie, and David.

Ventura Sheehan Perot Paul Nader McKinney
Kucinich Kaptur Grayson Gravel
Gonzalez Clemente Choate
Carter Baldwin Anderson


Talk about 'Cruel and unusual punishment'. Gimme waterboarding any day.!


They could have used Britney Spears or Ashlee Simpson or some of the other crop (crap) of current pop -- at ANY volume.

Or why not just crank up Rush, Glenn or Lou Dobbs?


KB,

If they put on conservative talk radio, they might just learn to love the United States. Torture would be making them watch the PMSNBC evening line-up.


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