Illinois 'Choose Life' choice: Supreme Ct.

I support PRO-CHOICE which is legal in this country. Would I even think about demanding a license plate made which states MY support? NO!! These anti-abortionists are out of their collective minds. How on earth could they possibly think that tax-payers money should go into making this crap.

Pathetic losers.

Thank goodness! That's the last thing we need--let's all state our minds on our license plates. Seriously, talk about indoctrination!!!!

Right. And they wouldn't be the first ones with their briefs in a bunch if Illinois approved a "pro-choice"' license plate. They don't want free speech - they want to make their opinion law.

Which is all part of why we need to eliminate vanity plates altogether. A license plate is for the purpose of identifying your vehicle for law enforcement purposes. It is not for advertising your political opinion, favorite sports team, alma mater, etc. If you want to do any of the latter, buy a bumper sticker.

Ah, it is good to see the whackos out in full force. Now, America can see how delinquent these rabid conservatives, presently, the Republican-Libertarian Party, really are !! In the name of life, they kill doctors, harass women, support brutal wars and enjoy capital punishment !! How is that for a consistency in "Supporting Life " ?? Can you get any more confused, any more moronic !!? Go, Republican-Libertarians, go !! Take yourselves out of the next 5-10 election cycles, America needs a break from your broken-down agenda and your hate !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

If people really want these plates, have the state charge them $250 annually. Then we'll see if these folks will put their money where their zealotry is.

Ah, it is good to see the whackos out in full force. Now, America can see how delinquent these rabid conservatives, presently, the Republican-Libertarian Party, really are !! In the name of life, they kill doctors, harass women, support brutal wars and enjoy capital punishment !! How is that for a consistency in "Supporting Life " ?? Can you get any more confused, any more moronic !!? Go, Republican-Libertarians, go !! Take yourselves out of the next 5-10 election cycles, America needs a break from your broken-down agenda and your hate !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

I suppose they have the First Amendment right to plaster as many bumper stickers on their cars as they please.

I like cheeseburgers - can I get a "eat cheeseburgers" license plate? If not I'll sue!!!

Why do we even have speciality plates? The duplication of numbers which occur between the different plates sometimes makes it difficult to determine exactly who owns a vehicle. Red light cams, tollway violations, parking tickets, etc all require careful reading to insure that the correct owner is idenified. State should have one plate style and no duplication of numbers. The plate should identify the owner, not his poltical views

GOOD!! There shouldnt be ANY personal license plates. They are a costly waste.

Does anyone, other than people who commit suicide, choose death?

No one wakes up and looks in the mirror and says to themselves "Oh JOY!!! Today is the day I get to finally have that abortion I always wanted!"

Oh my. Aren't the Choose Life people going to have a snit fit.

I think the reason for "vanity" plates is simply to increase revenue to the state.

Have these people never heard of bumper stickers? GET a life first, Choose Life afterward.

Wow, such vitrol in these posts. Aren't "pro-choice" people allowed to have their own lisences plates? I imagine if they did, no one would complain as long as it went both ways. It is free speech if we want to say we are pro-life. We ALL get to express our opinions under the constitution. And, even though no one looks in the mirror and gets excited about having an abortion, they certainly made a choice that included that possibility when they chose to have sex. (no extremes, please, I'm not talking here about rape and incest). And, most people I know who are anti-abortion are also anti-war and anti-poverty and anti-death penalty. It's just that abortions takes thousands more lives than all three of those combined, so that's where we put our efforts.

I'm glad about this decision. The right-to-lifers are really getting out of hand in our area. They've literally set up camp by the street next to a clinic that happens to perform abortions. They stand out there praying and then yell at the women that go in this clinic calling them murderers. These people go for the "easy fights" - and want to push their beliefs on everyone else. How about putting some of that effort toward helping children and families that did happen to choose "life" but now can't afford to care for their children?

Hey Don;....Can you get any more confused, any more moronic !!?

Yes you can, how about a pro choice person's intolerance of another persons choice.

Yessiree, those Pro-Life "whackos" sure are flooding this blog with their crazy, off-the-wall comments!

By my count, it's the Shrill Xenophobic Leftist Comments: 12, Obnoxious Xenophobic Conservative Comments: 0 (er, make that 1, if you intend to pigeonhole me).

I agree with comments that matters of such gravity have no business on a license plate. At the same time, you guys on the Pro-Choice side really need to stop demonizing people who disagree with you. Your comments suggest that the only way to have a reasoned discussion is if people agree with you.

Don, where did you get the Republican /Libertarian stuff? Most Libertarians don't support anything you mentioned in your repeated rant. Maybe you should check before you post.

"And, even though no one looks in the mirror and gets excited about having an abortion, they certainly made a choice that included that possibility when they chose to have sex. "

Finally - an honest "pro-lifer"! It's not the unwanted babies they care about - they aren't adopting. They want people punished for having sex.

All those who are Pro Choice, When was that last time you thanked your mother for choosing to be pro life. If you are parents, when was the last time you looked into your child's eyes and said I wish I would have gotten rid of you before you were born. Don't want children, don't have sex. Most unwanted children are because someone was to stupid to have protection or just say no. I am pro choose and I choose to disagree with what you people stand for.

In regards to your comment on how pro-life protesters should put some of that effort toward families and children that did choose life, they probably already do.

I know my church is having a collection of new or gently used baby clothes and items for women that did choose not to have an abortion. Also, of the pregnancy crisis centers that these protesters help out at, give free diapers, clothes and baby food to women that choose life.

They just choose to not trumpet it from the rooftops and exalt themselves.

They believ aborting a baby is killing it, so no wonder they are serious about this issue.

To all the people who say those who want "Choose Life" license plates, need to "get a life", I guess anyone who gets a specialty license plate, needs to "get a life" as well.

Illinois offers a ton of different ones, they are idiots for not allowing a "Choose Life" one, because they would raise some good revenue from the fee they charge for it. But, we do live in the Land of Liberals.

http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/vehicles/license_plate_guide/specialty_plates/home.html

Ah all you pompus pro-choice fools......on the other side of the coin....you have no problem with vanity plates for University of Illinois(public) or Northwestern (private) or Breast Cancer plates or Peace vanity plates or conservation plates or the warehouse full of other vanity plates that Illinois has. It's just the group that you don't agree with. The ones who buy the plates pay a PREMIUM pay for the plates !!!!! You taxpayers don't.

Get a life !!!

Oh you did.....it's others getting a life that have your panties in a righteous knot !!!

To Cheery; I don't think you should use birth control because you are stopping the potential for life. Don't drink because over half of all traffic accidents involce alcohol. Don't own a firearm because you should not have the right to protect yourself from the bad guys who have guns. Also, don't drink anything or eat anything with nutrasweet because it removes calium from you bones. Lets take all of the rights and decisions away from everyone, so they can be just like who? No objections, we can all go to a single church to eliminate conflict, we can all drive the same car to eliminate jealosy... when does it stop, when everyone agrees with you?

"And, most people I know who are anti-abortion are also anti-war and anti-poverty and anti-death penalty."

Bwahahahahaha! Good one. You should try open mike night at the comedy club.

Me? I am pro-Choice also. But my choice is different. Pro-Choice for me means this:
If you have a brain, you can use it...but use it wisely! You can choose to have a baby or you can choose to exercise birth control BEFORE you have sex. Once the act is done and you have created a living organism, then...I am Pro-Choice for either having the baby yourself or placing it for adoption. I also am Pro-Choice to have you experience the same death you inflict on that baby. Imagine yourself being injected with a lethal dose of something to kill you...the agony of it..the suffering. Thus, I am Pro-Choice in many areas. I believe in equal treatment of people...the unborn and the born.

These plates are not offensive. Don't care what people put on their license plates.

What if the NRA wanted Choose Death license plates? How many Choose Life people support the NRA?

I love how this site edits everything. I love how they claim freedom of speech but won't put these things on. I know..that is called the owner's right...actually...it would be the left though restricting free speech. Very funny.
Will try this though:
The best abortion cartoon I have ever seen went like this:
A crowd is calling out to God asking.."IF you claim you love people like the Bible says, why haven't you sent us someone to cure AIDS, Cancer, MS, MD, Cerebral Palsy, and all the other afflictions we suffer?"
God answers..."I DID BUT YOU ABORTED THOSE PEOPLE."
Now...THAT is something to think about...

And then there is all the whining about the lack of support for taxes, Social Security, Medicare, etc. Kids...you don't have to be a rocket scientist when it comes to the fact that if you terminate 1.5 million fetuses annually beginning in 1973...and the average wage earner begins working at age 20..and let's say that 50% of those terminated would be working people, you have killed a potential sum of 12 million wage earners. DUMB...VERY, VERY DUMB!

How about those who wish to have the choose-life plates move to those states that have them.

Choose Life Illinois Inc. wasted a LOT of their supporters money over this frivolous lawsuit. If Illinois offered a pro-abortion vanity plate but refused to offer a choose-life vanity plate the organization would have a case. First amendment rights were not infringed at all. What's wrong with bumper stickers or a window sticker? Think of all of the stickers the organization could have bought and distributed. Instead, they tossed a bunch of supporters money in the toilet for an outcome that any first year law student would have appraised them of.

Do any pro choicers realize how ridiculous they are when they are against people having a choice on their own license plate?????????????????????????????????
talk about pathetic hypocrites...

I think we're missing the point here. Why would the state fight this, when instead it could have collected the cash for the special plates? Then, when the pro-abortioners see it, they will want their own special plates...and the state gets even more revenue. These special plates have nothing to do with state endorsement...just collecting money to allow people to customize their plates. So, if you think about it, our state spent a bunch of money to fight so that it wouldn't have to take people's money. Brilliant!

Frankly, the sooner the state eliminates all these specialized plates, the better. There are nearly FIFTY different kinds now, including eight collegiate plates and almost twenty military plates, not to mention various diseases, agriculture, environment, etc. The proliferation of these plates, with different graphics, differnt arrangements of letters and numbers, often makes it difficult to tell what state the car is from, and makes identification harder. They need to be gone.

I currently live in FL and was recently wondering to which organization Choose Life fees go. I do not like the fact that the plate is out there, a little separation of church and state (eventhough many who are on either side of the debate are not religious at all). Remember- FL has plates for nearly everything under the sun- universities and colleges; save the manatee, sea turtle, black panther, reefs, dolphins, whales and many other enviromental ones; Family First; State of the Arts; In God We Trust; safe cycling; NACAR; military, and many, many more to choose from and let's not forget those regular old oranges. So don't hold FL as a good example of anything, it is all just so weird down here.

Yes, in the eyes of the Loony Left, adoption bad, abortion good! A couple dozen states already have these plates, so what? Illoinois wouldn't, with our present leadership, because Illinois is run by pro-abortionists and trial lawyers.
As a pro-life Republican I have voted for pro-choice candidates. It is not an issue that I base my ultimate decision on. Good people can disagree on this topic. But what gets me is the folks who think abortion is swell and get all warm and fuzzy all over just thinking about killing babies. Sort of like most of those who have posted here so far.
By the way, Don Fitzgerald, what about that whacked out pro-choicer who killed the pro-life in Michigan a couple of weeks ago? Silva and most of the media ignored that story. Didn't fit the agenda.

Yes, in the eyes of the Loony Left, adoption bad, abortion good! A couple dozen states already have these plates, so what? Illoinois wouldn't, with our present leadership, because Illinois is run by pro-abortionists and trial lawyers.
As a pro-life Republican I have voted for pro-choice candidates. It is not an issue that I base my ultimate decision on. Good people can disagree on this topic. But what gets me is the folks who think abortion is swell and get all warm and fuzzy all over just thinking about killing babies. Sort of like most of those who have posted here so far.
By the way, Don Fitzgerald, what about that whacked out pro-choicer who killed the pro-life in Michigan a couple of weeks ago? Silva and most of the media ignored that story. Didn't fit the agenda.

I am a pro choice believer because
1: I am not a woman!!

Abortion is legal in this country. As much as I deteste the idea, again I state, who are men to decide what woman do with their own bodies?
I have no doubt that if men could have babies, abortion would have been legal long before 1972!
As for free speech, well I am all for that too. If these people want to pay extra for this plate then let them.

Scottie,

If it is a woman's choice, should be fully responsible for that choice - whether she chooses to have the baby or abort the baby?

If someone can't tell a woman what to do with her body, why does the gov't outlaw prostitution and drug use?

Is it OK for a pregnant woman to drink a large amount of alcohol? It is her body after all.

Little Johnny D,
Playing loose with the facts once again....the Michigan killer killed 2 people. One of them happened to be a Pro-Life zealot. The killer did not seek out and murder the Pro-Life activist. The killer had a psychotic episode and murdered the first 2 people who attracted his attention. The second victim happened to be int he wrong place at the wrong time. What about the KY man murdered by anti-government Conservatives? The guy we know was targeted because he had FED scrawled on his chest.

Vanity plates, like all things American, get carried to the ad-nauseam degree.
It's like snowmobiles or 40 foot 'camping' bi-levels on wheels.

If the fundy-mentalists were to get the ''Choose Life' plates, why not the 'Choose Choice' plate for people that want freedom? (double positive)

But realize that the 'Choose Life' group considers this a victory. They love to play the victim. It's a fundy Christian ethic.

Always remember; With 'the base' nothing succeeds like failure.

"Don, where did you get the Republican /Libertarian stuff? Most Libertarians don't support anything you mentioned in your repeated rant. Maybe you should check before you post.
Posted by: xtbuff | October 5, 2009 12:33 PM"

Maybe he got it from your Prez candie, Bob Barr.

Does Bob support:
Legalize drugs use
Legalize prostitution
abortion rights
separation of church and state

Set us straight.

Libertarians have become the handmaidens of the Repimplican party.

PS;
BTW, don't get around Bob if has a gun. He can't handle it.

"Do any pro choicers realize how ridiculous they are when they are against people having a choice on their own license plate?????????????????????????????????
talk about pathetic hypocrites...
Posted by: justin | October 5, 2009 1:30 PM"

I believe a state, (Fla?) offered Pro Life plates, and a pro choice group wanted a 'pro choice plate', but was denied.
That's the hypocrisy.

why does the gov't outlaw prostitution and drug use?

Is it OK for a pregnant woman to drink a large amount of alcohol? It is her body after all.

Posted by: Terry | October 5, 2009 5:31 PM

LOL Terry, are you serious?

Ok prostitution, in my mind, shouldnt be outlawed anyway so lets not go there.
As for drugs, people buy drugs they dont buy a baby in a bottle or a platic bag. Its growing inside them!
I hate abortion just as much as the next person who does but I dont know what these woman are going through. Emotionally, financially, physically, or mentally. Whats growing inside them will change their lives forever! Some may have been reckless and not used protection. Some may have been raped. Some may have been victum to incest. Not our business. The moral obligation is to the woman herself.

I'm not even going to respond to the stupid drinking comment.

Well said Brad.

Well, It looks like it was SC that I was referring to, and it was the state motto of 'choose life' on the plates, with no opposing view allowed.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4183/is_20040630/ai_n10062345/

It seems to me that anyone who is seriously pro-life should donate the cost of the plate directly to any of the various organizations that promote adoptions, and cut the Illinois corruptoment middle-man out of the loop.

Scottie,

"As for drugs, people buy drugs they dont buy a baby in a bottle or a platic bag. Its growing inside them!" That statement is irrelavent. Both are choices they are making. Shouldn't one live with the consequences of their choices?

"Some may have been reckless and not used protection." - Should have thought about that, along with the man, before they had sex.

Rape and incest - no argument.

If the moral obligation is to the woman herself (along with the decision), then why shouldn't the financial decision be to the woman herself?

You can't answer the drinking question, because you know the inconsistancy within the issue.

C Morris, you are one wise bird.

Terry, are you sayiong that we should make the consumption of alcohol by prgenant women illegal? Orfr should we ban the consumption of all alcohol by women illegal, since they may be in the first weeks of prganancy and not no it at any time? Perhaps you'd like the government to monitor and regulate all aspects of the pregant woman's life, in the name of protecting the child. That sure sounds like small government conservatism to me! While we're at it, lets ban smoking in any home with children in it, and having any firearm in a home with children in it. Those are grave risks to the health and well being of the child. After all it's not a choice, but a child. I'm sure you'd support legally limiting those choices too, right?

Choices & Children,

Woman have been arrested for drinking alcohol while pregnant. As for the rest of your strawmen, don't light that cig by them.

http://advocatesforpregnantwomen.org/issues/unborn_victims_of_violence_act/the_socalled_unborn_victims_of_violence_act_does_not_protect_women_or_children_1.php

So Terry, as a pro-life individual, you support aresting women for drinking while pregnant correct? After all it's all about protecting the child right? Should the government also regulate what women are allowed to eat and what activities they can perform in the name of protecting the rights of the unborn child? Where, in your opinion, is the line between a woman's rights and the rights of the child. If abortion should be illegfal, and pregnant women drinking should be illegal, how far do myou want the governbment intruding into the lives of women?

You raised this argument, so answer it. I've created no straw man, I've just addressed your questions.

Choices and Children,

There obviously would have to be a line drawn and I don't know where it would be drawn. I'll assume you wouldn't let society take no action for an obviously pregnant woman sitting at a bar night after night drinking until she passes out and causing hyer unborn baby to have fetal alcohol syndrome.

As far as eating, smoking etc... it does have health implications on the baby, but there must be a clear line drawn. It will be the liberal left gov't ironically that will move this line as they push their healthcare bill and start dictating health habits in tghe name of saving money.

Do to your silence on my other points, I guess you agree that if a woman makes the choice to keep the baby; she, and she alone, s/b finanicially responsible.

What the Hey! No politics on the taxpayers dime, and also no crosses. If you want a cross wear one around your neck like I do. If you have a statement put on a bumper sticker, Period!! whiteagle38

Terry, come on, don't wimp out. You want the line drawn. Should a woman have to present a certificate proving she isn't pregnant to a bartender before she can order a drink? Should the Feds run random pregnancy tests in bars? Should the feds be allowed to monitor pregnant women's food intake to insure that she is following federal regulations to protect her child? Have some guts. Stand by your position. Should a woman have any choice about how she lives her life while pregnant, or while she might be preganant, or is it all open to federal regulation with the threat of criminal prosecution? Does she have any choices Terry, or should she just be remanded to total federal custody when preganant? I really want to see how much federal monitoring a small government conservative wants on the most basic elements of women's lives.

Children and Choices,

An obviously pregnant wqoman should not be served at a bar and if she causes damage to the fetus by drinking or doing drugs, she should lose custody of the chiild.

You miss the point, gov't already tells woman what they can do with their bodies - prostitution and drugs. How little federal monitoring does a large government liberal want on peoples lives? Do you think prostitution s/b legal? Do you think drug use s/b legal? At what age should these become legal? Do you think a woman should have to full support a child she solely chooses to bring into the world?