Obama: Vietnam's lessons true today: The Swamp
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Chicago Tribune
Posted October 20, 2009 1:30 PM
The Swamp

by Mark Silva

They're still talking about the lessons of Vietnam at the White House, where President Barack Obama today awarded a Presidential Unit Citation to Alpha Troop, First Squadron of the 11th Armored Cavalry.

At the White House, where a decorated Marine veteran of the Vietnam War serves as National Security Advisor - Gen. Jim Jones -- they're also still debating the nature of the deployment of the war in Afghanistan, where Gen. Stanley McChrystal is seeking thousands of additional troops.

In citing the valor of the Blackhorse Regiment nearly 40 years ago in a jungle war, Obama surely had a current conflict in mind today when he said:

"If that day in the jungle, if that war long ago, teaches us anything, then surely it is this. If we send our men and women in uniform into harm's way, then it must be only when it is absolutely necessary. And when we do, we must back them up with the strategy and the resources and the support they need to get the job done.''

Eight years into war there, Afghanistan is not another Vietnam, at least not the way Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, another decorated veteran of the Vietnam War sees it - though public opinion apparently is sharply divided over that question.

But today, in the Rose Garden, Obama was talking about another war altogether:

REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT
IN AWARDING THE PRESIDENTIAL UNIT CITATION
TO ALPHA TROOP, 1ST SQUADRON, 11TH ARMORED CAVALRY

Rose Garden


12:24 P.M. EDT


THE PRESIDENT: Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to the White House. And welcome to a moment nearly 40 years in the making.

Last month, I was privileged to present the parents of an American soldier, Sergeant First Class Jared Monti, with our nation's highest decoration for valor -- the Medal of Honor. Today, we celebrate the awarding of our nation's highest honor for a military unit -- the Presidential Unit Citation.

The Presidential Unit Citation is awarded for "gallantry, determination, and esprit de corps in accomplishing its mission under extremely difficult and hazardous conditions." Since its creation during the Second World War, it has only been bestowed about 100 times.

Today, another unit assumes its rightful place in these ranks -- Alpha Troop, 1st Squadron, 11th Armored Cavalry, the legendary Blackhorse Regiment.

To mark this occasion we're joined by Congressman -- and Vietnam veteran -- Leonard Boswell; Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Jim "Hoss" Cartwright; John McHugh, our Army Secretary; and Vice Chief of Staff Peter Chiarelli; from Fort Irwin, California, leaders of today's 11th Armored Cavalry -- Colonel Paul Laughlin and Command Sergeant Major Martin Wilcox; and most of all, the men of Alpha Troop -- those behind me and some 100 here today.

Now, these men might be a little bit older, a little bit grayer. But make no mistake -- these soldiers define the meaning of bravery and heroism.

It was March 1970, deep in the jungles of Vietnam. And through the static and crackle of their radios Alpha Troop heard that another unit was in trouble. Charlie Company, from the 1st Calvary Division, had stumbled upon a massive underground bunker of North Vietnamese troops. A hundred Americans were facing some 400 enemy fighters. Outnumbered and outgunned, Charlie Company was at risk of being overrun.

That's when Alpha Troop's captain gave the order: "Saddle up and move out."

As these men will tell you themselves, this isn't the story of a battle that changed the course of a war. It never had a name, like Tet or Hue or Khe Sanh. It never made the papers back home. But like countless battles, known and unknown, it is a proud chapter in the story of the American soldier.

It's the story of men who came together, from every corner of America, of different colors and creeds. Some young -- just 18, 19 years old, and just weeks in the jungle; some older -- veterans hardened by the ugliness of war. Noncommissioned officers who held the unit together and the officers assigned to lead them.

It's the story of how this team of some 200 men set out to save their fellow Americans. With no roads to speak of, they plowed their tanks and armored vehicles through the thick jungle, smashing a path through bamboo and underbrush, mile after mile, risking ambush and landmines every step of the way, and finally emerging from the jungle to the rescue -- what one member of Charlie Company called "a miracle."

It's a story of resolve. For Alpha Troop could have simply evacuated their comrades and left that enemy bunker for another day -- to ambush another American unit. But as their captain said, "That's not what the 11th Cavalry does."

And so, ultimately, this is a story of what soldiers do -- not only for their country, but for each other: the troopers who put themselves in the line of fire, using their tanks and vehicles to shield those trapped Americans; the loaders who kept the ammunition coming, and the gunners who never let up; and when one of those gunners went down, the soldier who jumped up to take his place.

It's about the men who rushed out to drag their wounded buddies to safety; the medics who raced to save so many; the injured who kept fighting hour after hour. And finally, with dark falling, as the convoy made the daring escape back through the jungle, these soldiers remained vigilant, protecting the wounded who lay at their feet.

The fog of war makes a full accounting impossible. But this much we know. Among the many casualties that day, some 20 members of Alpha Troop were wounded. And at least two made the ultimate sacrifice -- their names now among the many etched in that black granite wall not far from here. But because of that service, that sacrifice, Alpha Troop completed its mission. It rescued Charlie Company. It saved those 100 American soldiers, some of who join us today. And those soldiers went on to have families -- children and grandchildren who also owe their lives to Alpha Troop.

Now, some may wonder: After all these years, why honor this heroism now? The answer is simple. Because we must. Because we have a sacred obligation. As a nation, we have an obligation to this troop. Their actions that day went largely unnoticed -- for decades -- until their old captain, John Poindexter, realized that their service had been overlooked. He felt that he had a right to wrong. And so he spent years tracking down his troopers and gathering their stories, filing reports, fighting for the Silver Stars and Bronze Stars they deserved and bringing us to this day.

Thank you, John.

We have an obligation to all who served in the jungles of Vietnam. Our Vietnam vets answered their country's call and served with honor. But one of the saddest episodes in American history was the fact that these vets were often shunned and neglected, even demonized when they came home. That was a national disgrace. And on days such as this, we resolve to never let it happen again.

Many of our Vietnam vets put away their medals, rarely spoke of their service and moved on. They started families and careers. Some rose through the ranks, like the decorated Vietnam veteran that I rely on every day, my National Security Advisor, Jim Jones.

Indeed, I'm told that today is the first time in 39 years that many from Alpha Troop have pulled out their medals and joined their old troop. Some of you still carry the shrapnel and the scars of that day. All of you carry the memories. And so I say, it's never too late, we can never say it enough. To you and all those who served in Vietnam, we thank you. We honor your service. And America is forever grateful.

Today also reminds us of our obligations to all our veterans, whether they took off the uniform decades ago or days ago -- to make sure that they and their families receive the respect they deserve, and the health care and treatment they need, the benefits they have earned and all the opportunities to live out their dreams.

And finally, if that day in the jungle, if that war long ago, teaches us anything, then surely it is this. If we send our men and women in uniform into harm's way, then it must be only when it is absolutely necessary. And when we do, we must back them up with the strategy and the resources and the support they need to get the job done.

This includes always showing our troops the respect and dignity they deserve, whether one agrees with the mission or not. For if this troop and our men and women in uniform can come together -- from so many different backgrounds and beliefs -- to serve together, and to succeed together, then so can we. So can America.

I cannot imagine a more fitting tribute to these men, who fought in what came to be called The Anonymous Battle. Troopers, you are not anonymous anymore. And with America's overdue recognition also comes responsibility -- our responsibility as citizens and as a nation, to always remain worthy of your service.

God bless Alpha Troop and the 11th Armored Cavalry. God bless all those who wear this nation's uniform. And God bless the United States of America.

Thank you very much, everybody. (Applause.)

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"And when we do, we must back them up with the strategy and the resources and the support they need to get the job done.''

Rubbish. If the Waffler-in-Chief believed a word of this he wouldn't be conducting the war as he has been. He hasn't learned a single thing from Vietnam, so we're doomed to repeat it.


Lesson from VietNam - Let the Generals fight the war and keep the politicians out of it.

If BO isn't for victory (as stated in the clip below), then bring our young men and woman home.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk7scgN-37E

Never mind the historical error in the Obama's speech - it wasn't Hirohito that signed the Japanese surrender on the Missouri.


Terry is right. Civilian control of the military simply isn't the American way. In America Presidents follow the orders of the generals, not the other way around. Did Lincoln ever question his Generals? FDR? Truman? Nixon? Bush 1? Nope. They did whatever the generals said when they said to do it. This whole notion that the President should consider things other than what the Generals say is nonsense. It strike at the very heart of our military dictatorship and would turn this great nation into some sort of Republic! Terry is obviously a great military man, who has spent his life in the service of our country, and we must all obey him as we would any military leader. Lead us General Terry, Lead us!


I thought Obama already added troops in Afghan. How did that work out? Read McNamara's book on Vietnam. Former defense secretary Robert McNamara said of Vietnam....."we were wrong, terribly wrong.....". Why continue to repeat that? 58,000 American men and women died there in that terribly wrong place--along with 2-4 million Vietnamese--who was counting. Big black holes do nothing to keep America safe. Big black holes only take in an inordinate amount of treasury money and human life. There is no good end game in Afghanistan. There isn't a good end game in Iraq either. Thank a Cheney and a Bush for no foresight, no clear exit stategy in either place. Thank a Cheney and a Bush for all the obfuscation on reasons for going in. I'm thinking Cheney and Bush thought a 'troop' was a tank, a toy soldier or some other inanimate object to play with, or to wager with, or to make a lame point with. Obama has already added more than enough men and women into Afghan. during his administration. The Rumsfeld-stacked, Cheney-monitored pentagon and our lovely top-heavy industrial-military-$$$$$$$$$$$-complex will just have to do with less citizen/troop blood and citizen money.

In the mean time, the GOP monsters cry about the cost of health care. The GOP seems to like death--either through BS "wars" or through no medical care back home. Won't two months of our current BS "wars" pay for health care? The Cheney/Bush "war" in Iraq alone is up to 2.7 trillion dollars. Take that money out of any yes-vote politicians' "defense" dividends (or from anyone who manipulated and BSed the politicians for the yes vote.) Oops, I actually mean to call them offense dividends from the offense industry. Cheney and Bush did start with the offensive S & A bombings in Iraq, didn't they?


Lets see if I get this right. McChrystal want to do what worked in Iraq. But, the democrats want to wait and see. Iraq is done and wrapping up thanks to Bush giving the military what they needed. And Boxer tonight said (on MSNBC) they will not be getting what they need in Afghanistan. The longer Obama and the democrats wait the more blood on their hands. Once DC starts to run the war it becomes another Vietnam War.


Crooks- General Petreaus himself has said that the strategy used in Iraq won't work as well in Afghanistan.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/13/petraeus-iraq-style-surge-wouldnt-work-afghanistan/


Posted by: Suddenly you care? | October 21, 2009 1:34 PM

I know because of the lay of the land there. Its they will take parts of the surge and use other strategies.


Orders,

That's what screwed-up VietNam - 535 people that thought they were commander-in-chief instead of one.

If BO's objective isn't victory, then bring them home.


Terry, please tell us what Goerge Bush's objective in Afghanistan was. Was it victory? Did George Bush ever give the Gernerals all they wanted in Afghanistran? Did you ever once demand that Bush give the generals all they want in Afghanistan or that he bring them home? Did you complain when Bush drew down troop levels in Afghanistan before the job was done? Or did your concerns about victory and troop levels in Afghanistan only develop recently?


So Terrry, you're saying that the Republicans in Congress should just keep their mouths shut and support what ever the Commander in Chief decides to do in Afghanistan without question?


Suddenly,

President Bush mission was to go after bin Laden, al Qaeda, and the taliban - something Clinton couldn't quite find time to do while rolling the cubby intern.

Support,

I am saying that the democrats and republicans in Congress should let teh commander-in-chief wage the war. Congress did its part declaring the war, let the commander-in-chief execute the war.


Lame Terry, very lame, but pretty well an admission that you, like many, don't actually care about Afghanistan, victory, or the troops there, but just pretend concern in order to further your partisan attacks on Obama (and Clinton).


Suddenly,

For all you loons, I thought this was the 'good war"? This was the war that we need to achieve victory, isn't that what canidate BO said?


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