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by Mark Silva
That battle between the White House and FOX News is one thing that President Barack Obama is not losing a lot of sleep over these days.
So says the boss at the White House where various advisers have raised various complaints about FOX - the White House's chief blogger fact-checking FOX commentators on statements made, the White House communications director calling FOX "an arm of the Republican Party'' and the White House chief of staff concurring in his aide's opinion that FOX is not really a news network.
The president himself had something to say about this back in June, when he said in an interview: "I have got one television station that is entirely devoted to attacking my administration.'' That would be FOX? CNBC's John Harwood asked Obama. "Well, that's a pretty big megaphone,'' Obama said, "and you would be hard-pressed, if you watched the entire day, to find a positive story about me on that front.''
And the president had this to say in an interview Wednesday with NBC News at the White House, when asked about the propriety of the White House trying to say what's a news organization and what's not:
""I think the American people are a lot more interested in what we're doing to create jobs or how we're handling the situation in Afghanistan... What our advisers have simply said is that, we are going to take media as it comes.
"And if media is operating basically as a talk radio format, then that's one thing, and if it's operating as a news outlet, that's another. ... But it's not something I lose a lot of sleep over.''
The White House press secretary was pressed this week about why the administration is chastising one news network. "You and I should watch sometime around 9 o'clock tonight. Or 5 o'clock this afternoon,'' replied press secretary Robert Gibbs, pointing to the early show of FOX's Glenn Beck, who has been attacking various members of the administration for their political points of view and who lately has taken on Anita Dunn, the communications director who called FOX a GOP subsidiary, for her talk about admiring Mao Zedong as a philosopher.
FOX News, for its part, maintains that it is proud of its newsgathering, and that it has every right to reserve space in the programming day for commentary. It's a mix that works well for the network, its executives say, and the flap with the White House has been good for business, too.
Michael Clemente, senior vice president for FOX News , told the Tribune Washington Bureau this week: "Surprisingly, the White House continues to declare war on a news organization instead of focusing on the critical issues that Americans are concerned about like jobs, health care and two wars. The door remains open and we welcome a discussion about the facts behind the issues."
And Chase Carey, president and COO of News Corp., which owns the network, echoed the setiment of boss Rupert Murdoch when he said at a Broadcasting and Cable Forum this week that the flap with the White House has "probably been PR and marketing we couldn't have bought...
"I think FOX News is quite comfortable where it is,'' Carey said. "We try to present an honest presentation of the issues from both sides. It has clearly struck a raw nerve. But we're not trying to pick a fight. We're trying to present an honest and in (the words of FOX News Chairman Roger Ailes), a fair and balanced perspective of the issues. We're quite comfortable with where we are.''
So, it seems that everyone is sleeping quite well.









Comments
There are reports that President Obama, Rahm Emmanuel and David Axelrod met for two and one/half hours this past Monday with two commentators from MSNBC and three reporters from the New York Times.
This meeting was not listed on President Obama's schedule that day.
The public should be informed of what was discussed or did these individuals and their employers agree to push the Administration's policies in secret!
Posted by: Chicago Joe | October 22, 2009 10:25 AM
Sorry, but Obimbo is so wrong and full of it. If he's not losing any sleep over Fox News, then why is his shaministration spending so much time worrying about it?
Robert Fibbs invited Jake Tapper to come and watch the Beck and Hannity shows. Beck is a libertarian. Hannity a true-blue Republican conservative. But what about the 7-10 (central time) block on MSNBC with Olberidiot and Rachel Madcowdisease? I don't recall seeing much news in those programs. Or even Spit Matthews' gurglefest in the late afternoon. In fact, I don't see much news on MSNBC, just covering up and aiding and abetting the Obimbo shaministration.
I also don't recall the Bush administration having such hissy fits on the nonsense on MSNBC.
This shaministration spends most of its time demonizing those it does not like: Fox News, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, insurance companies, investors, food industry, and on and on. Now, it wants to limit pay, all the while Obimbo lives it up like he is some sort of dictatorp-wannabe with high-priced parties at the White House on a regular basis. Somehow methinks if a Republican president was spending so lavishly while 1/5th of the U.S. population was hurting, Mark Silva and the rest of the so-called mainstream media would be having catatonic fit after catatonic fit.
Posted by: John D | October 22, 2009 10:27 AM
Actually Ocommie is losing LOTS of sleep or he wouldn't keep pushing this petty Alinskyite feud. Fox has had the audacity to ask the tough questions and actually do some investigative journalism, instead of propagandizing for him and falling at his feet to lick his boots like ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC etc. Predictably, this has seriously ruffled The Royal Ego, and of course that cannot be tolerated.
Posted by: Quit yer dang whinin', wussy boy! | October 22, 2009 10:38 AM
President Obama shouldn't lose any sleep over the infomercial network. It is a gagging propaganda machine, with very little "truth" being distributed. It is laughable that a foreigner is Fox Noise Studies's CEO and if you don't think that has any effect on their product, than you are dumber than you look !! I hope Fox Noise continues to be noisy, because it is an everyday reminder of the Republican-Libertarian's agenda, that is directed at victimizing the majority of the working and middle classes of America !! The best they can offer America is The Big Lie and Fox Noise is their mouthpiece !!
So, I am glad to hear, President Obama, that you aren't losing any sleep over the " The Seven Dwarfs " Noise service. It's a peach of an entertainment show !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.
Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, IL | October 22, 2009 10:46 AM
""I think the American people are a lot more interested in what we're doing to create jobs or how we're handling the situation in Afghanistan... "
Oh, yes, we are indeed!!! You should be losing sleep over that, not Fox News.
Posted by: Bobbie Mobbie | October 22, 2009 10:51 AM
By the way, Special Report with Bret Baier is news, except for the last 20 minutes which has analysts from across the political spectrum. Also the Fox Report with Shepard Smith is straight news too. The daytime programming is largely news and light stuff, not much different than what one would find on CNN or even local newscasts throughout the day.
Obimbo, time to go and leave the job of presidency to the adults.
Posted by: John D | October 22, 2009 10:57 AM
Fox News: the National Enquirer of the broadcasting world.
Posted by: Kenneth Janowski | October 22, 2009 11:06 AM
Its amazing how the radical right, which spends all their time whining about how unfair the media is and how leftist it is, gets soooo upset when anyone criticizes Foz in any way. Folks like Bruce and Johnny Dolt who are fixated on the "liberal media", suddenly find critizing Fox to be unamerican, when they spend hours ezch and every day slamming media outlets for liberal bias.. What nonsense for a bunch of hypocrites.
Posted by: Righties are hypocrites | October 22, 2009 11:10 AM
"Not losing lot of sleep"
Riiiight....that's why obama sent out his attack dogs on the Sunday morning talk shows to disparage Fox News.
And it also looks like he's not losing any sleep over our troops being killed in Afghanistan while the military generals plead for more back-up.
Totally clueless!
Paulo
Posted by: Paulo | October 22, 2009 11:22 AM
He and everyone of us should be losing sleep about this graph from the non-partisan GAO . . .
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d10137sp.pdf
Posted by: Bobbie Mobbie | October 22, 2009 11:24 AM
Good for him, he needs his rest! He's a dal garn busy guy that president and should be sharp and rested at all times.
When's he going to bring those troops home Don?
Posted by: springfield | October 22, 2009 11:38 AM
You would think he has better things to do than meet with Madcow and Overman. They lick his boots and are not at all objective in their reporting (as Beck is not in his). They are suck ups. This is scary when the main man has to spend time with those types.
Posted by: BigbadSouthsideJim | October 22, 2009 11:41 AM
It is a sad day America when any president overseeing the fighting of 2 wars and a growing unemployment situation, takes the time to try and stop any media criticism. His people should be working day and night to solve America's problems and they have nothing to do with the news, be it Fox or MSNBC. The real news is that things aren't going too well and no news outlet has anything to do with that problem.
Posted by: Tom | October 22, 2009 12:02 PM
Pelosi's dog must have eaten her copy of the GAO report? She sure tells a very different story, I wonder where she gets her information?
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He and everyone of us should be losing sleep about this graph from the non-partisan GAO . . .
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d10137sp.pdf
Posted by: Bobbie Mobbie | October 22, 2009 11:24 AM
Never fear, Underdog is here! With reading comprehension classes and free government cheese for snacks, I bet we can straighten out this mess!
Nancy, pass the brie and arugula to Barry, he's hungry for an education on economic's.
Posted by: springfield | October 22, 2009 12:03 PM
“One of the amendments to the Constitution… expressly declares that ‘Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press,’ thereby guarding in the same sentence and under the same words, the freedom of religion, of speech, and of the press; insomuch that whatever violates either throws down the sanctuary which covers the others.” - Thomas Jefferson
http://republicanredefined.com/2009/10/22/obama-fox-news-like-talk-radio/
Posted by: T Christopher | October 22, 2009 12:38 PM
Posted by: BigbadSouthsideJim | October 22, 2009 11:41 AM
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This comment is demonstrative of the ignorance on the right and how they perceive these media organizations. Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann will NEVER claim to be journalists. They provide their OPINIONS. They can show they are biased. Glenn Beck will NEVER call himself a journalist and doesn't. I can't believe you rubes don't understand the difference between news and opinion with respect to these personalities.
Posted by: janet | October 22, 2009 12:42 PM
Ocommie isn't making a law to suppress free speech -- he's just engaging in Alinskyite thuggery to accomplish the same purpose.
Posted by: Ocommie is no Thomas Jefferson. | October 22, 2009 1:09 PM
FOX news is a joke, but isn't funny that the President's whining about FOX is contained in a link to the MSNBC website?
MSNBC the network whose mission statement is "Hey the braindead on the left need to be told what to think, too"
Excellent choice Mr. President.
And remember back when the likes of Olberdouche and that creepy dude whose show follows his were up in arms over "you're either with us or you're against us"?
But now, that same line of thinking seems to be just fine.
Hypocrisy, um I mean journalism, no I mean political pandering at its absolute finest!
Posted by: IndieMan | October 22, 2009 1:17 PM
We all know President Jefferson was far from having it right !! After all, he was a slaveholder !! So, let's not get too carried away with his observations. As for the press, there has been a premeditated attempt to confuse our electorate, with news shows that are, in fact, entertainment and entertainment shows that pretend to be news programs !! President Jefferson never foresaw this shell game. In President Jefferson's day, the press was taken seriously as an arm of democracy, unfortunately, as the Iraqi slaughter and occupation has proven, the media had been hand-in-glove with government, when it came to the illegal war in Iraq as well as the illegal activities on Wall Street !! Again, using the constitution to cover modern problems, when the societal dynamics have changed, is a dishonest attempt to win an argument !! Does the constitution cover Entertainment Today and AK-47s ? I don't seriously think so !! The NRA and Pornographers would say yes, but let us at least be honest, when it comes to constitutional questions. Or, is that asking too much !!?
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW. !!
Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, IL | October 22, 2009 1:28 PM
Ahhhh Dumb Dumb Janet, as usual you show your lack of comprehension and just plain ability to think like a normal human being.
First of all, Keith Olberidiot does claim and believes he is a journalist, not an opinion-maker.
Second, Madcowdisease is an opinion-maker but often times skews and lies about the facts. I suppose one could say Beck and Hannity do the same, but so far the only proof we've been presented is that when Beck meant Calgary in regard to the Olympics he saif Vancouver. Oh and he spelled a word wrong.
Third, Beck and Hannity never claim to be journalists either. They both freely admit their beliefs, they do not hide from them.
Fourth, I have not seen a right winger say Beck or Hannity are journalists and it doesn't appear that SouthSide Jim is saying that about Beck.
But when it comes to "journalists," please where is the objectivity from the likes of Andrea Mitchell, Matt Lauer, Katie Couric, and dare I say it, Mark Silva?
Posted by: John D | October 22, 2009 1:48 PM
"We all know President Jefferson was far from having it right !!"
Lemme guess, Jefferson's big problem was that he wasn't a commie like Obama (but only because Marx hadn't come on the scene yet).
Wow, Donnie, you are so far beyond hopeless that it genuinely defies articulation. I'm slightly more inclined to pay heed to the author of the Declaration of Independence, and one of the key architects of the nation in which you have the freedom to shoot off your ignorant, unthinking, idiotic mouth.
"Again, using the constitution to cover modern problems, when the societal dynamics have changed, is a dishonest attempt to win an argument !!"
Maybe, just maybe (I know this is a stretch) the Founders were just a teensy bit wiser than you give them credit for. Maybe they actually had the foresight to plan for a governmental structure that would last longer than their personal political careers.
But why bother making the argument? As I said, you're beyond hopeless. If you were suddenly to keel over dead we would see a dramatic and concomitant spike in the overall I.Q. of the national gene pool. You and Obama deserve each other, comrade.
Somehow the phrase "mindless, unthinking, idiotic, gullible, naive, sycophantic, self-deceived, gibbering, mouth-breathing knuckle-dragger" just doesn't quite capture your full glory. I'll have to work on expanding my lexicon.
Posted by: Teresa | October 22, 2009 2:53 PM
Not even the people at Fox believe what they're saying. They revel in outlandish claims because it resonates with the white, extra chromosome crowd who lap it up to the tune of million$. Unlike most Americans who routinely ignore the channel, those who barely made it past grade school are the ones Fox relies upon to keep its pockets lined with ratings gold.
Posted by: Diane | October 22, 2009 3:11 PM
To Don Fitzgerald, who is now making attacks on Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence, Third President of the United States and the Author of the Statute of Religious Freedom in Virginia to name a few of his great accomplishments, where did you go to school to learn such nonsense? I really liked your statement that in Jefferson's day "the Press was taken Seriously as an Arm of Democracy." The attacks by the Press in 1798 were much harsh than the mild criticism of our leaders today. And it is obvious that you never have heard of the Alien and Sedition Acts past by the Federalists in 1798. Part of those laws was an attempt to quell any political opposition from Democratic-Republicans (fore runner of the modern Democratic Party) led by Thomas Jefferson. The last of the laws, the Sedition Act, passed on July 14, 1798 declared that any treasonable activity, including the publication of "any false, scandalous and malicious writing," was a high misdemeanor, punishable by fine and imprisonment. By virtue of this legislation twenty-five men, most of them editors of Democratic-Republican newspapers, were arrested and their newspapers forced to shut down.
Posted by: Depot- Jim | October 22, 2009 3:17 PM
The WH fact checking FNC, funny. I bet that is the only network they check.
Posted by: Crooks_In_DC | October 22, 2009 3:18 PM
Little Johnny Donut,
As a complete hack of an editor of a trade magazine, you have no place to talk about journalism.
Also, please get some neighbor kid to edit your posts. You really are quite an embarrassment.
Posted by: Blubber Snorter | October 22, 2009 4:55 PM
Blubber Snorter, er Dumb Dumb Unclean Janet, er John E., I am just fine, thank you, and so is my journalism. Keith Olberidiot, well, like you he needs to go back to the Elgin Mental Hospital.
Posted by: John D | October 22, 2009 6:40 PM
Calling little johnny dingbat a journalist is even more of an insult to journalism than calling anyone on Faux News a journalist. JD is nothing more that a trade rag writer who one day dreams of becoming a "real" reporter. It the only reason he blogs here day after day...so he can see his name in a real newspaper!
Posted by: Neal | October 22, 2009 7:00 PM
Well, I come home, sit down and do a little surfing and discover tons of stories -- though not too much mainstream media -- about how the WH tried to shut out Fox News today. Feinberg would be available for interview -- for everyone but Fox.
Thankfully, the other networks told the WH to stuff it -- if Fox weren't included, they wouldn't play ball either, and miraculously the WH backed down. But, true to the thin-skinned nature of this arrogant, narcisstic president who thinks he walks on water, all the times weere trimmed from 5 mintues to 2. Miraculously, the world did not end.
No news from the Swamp. nothing on ABC. Nothing from HuffPost, though wny that's a surprise I'm not sure. I must be deranged tonight.
Our president is a dangerous man. And we're in danger, too.
Posted by: Beth | October 22, 2009 11:05 PM
Funny that an Aussie (irregardless that he obtained US citizenship) has more say in American politics than any GOP members.
I've lived in countries where Mr. Murdoch "took over" the press - and it's been abysmal. What is so bloody wrong about admitting that Mr. Murdoch and his TV or print media aligns to the "Right". I think the issue here is "Fair and Balanced" - which is pure bunk. Just like it's been at every News Corporation Entity. The Conservative agenda is pushed by News Corp in EVERY country they operate. Opinion that differs from that is pushed out. Do the research folks.
Granted; CNN, MSNBC, etc are not right aligned - but they do give full respect to Republican, Independent and other parties along with full airtime. That is balance. Balance isn't bringing Democrats or those aligned with Democrats on a show and berating them, yelling at them and calling them idiots and unpatriotic. THAT is the true problem with Fox News... I'm a middle of the road Republican - but I don't watch Fox News - I don't need some idiot blowhard to form MY opinion. I can think for myself... Maybe some of you should indulge in that as a right - THINKING FOR YOURSELF. Not having Fox News form your opinion from a highly isolated group of "experts"
Posted by: NPS | October 23, 2009 2:23 PM
Yeah, he may not be losing a lot of sleep right now, but when he's unemployed after his first and last term, he'll change his attitude. There is a bright spot however he can read the news at NBC or be an assistant to Chris Matthews.
Posted by: Paul | October 24, 2009 6:35 PM
" It is laughable that a foreigner is Fox Noise Studies's CEO and if you don't think that has any effect on their product, than you are dumber than you look !!"
Only an Obamatard is stupid enough to support that Kenyan, then have the nerve to complain about a network's foreign-born CEO.
Look you silly tard, that CEO is at least a Naturalized US citizen, lol!
Which is more than can be said for Obama.
Ask your president where his birth certificate is. The ORIGINAL.
Posted by: phil | October 26, 2009 3:46 AM