Bachmann: 'Crown jewel of socialism': The Swamp
The Swamp
Chicago Tribune

That's the Minnesota Republican's description for the health-care bill.

Posted November 5, 2009 1:10 PM
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Anti-abortion demonstrator Diana Roccograndi of Wilkes-Barre, Pa., wears a paper mask of Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi while protesting outside the Cannon House Office Building today. The protesters were voicing opposition to health care reform legislation which the House plans to take up Saturday. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla / Getty Images)

The Swamp

by Michael Muskal

Conservatives rallied at the Capitol today while Democrats pushed the levers of their majority in the House as Washington and the nation braced for Saturday's first vote on healthcare reform.

Thousands of people listened to Republican lawmakers, including Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, who has become the face of conservative opposition and one of the principal targets of liberals. "Republicans don't have the votes to kill this bill as we were limited," said the congresswoman, who has called the pending healthcare measure "the crown jewel of socialism."

"But what was unlimited was the voice of the American people," she said.

"Kill the bill, kill the bill," the crowd shouted.

The rally and subsequent lobbying are designed to spur Republicans to oppose the bill, which will be up for a rare Saturday vote in the House.

Top Democrats, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi, braced for the fight to round up the necessary votes. President Barack Obama plans to visit the House on Friday to try to persuade wavering legislators. Majority Leader Steny Hoyer told reporters that he expected the legislation to pass, though the vote could be tight.

"I wouldn't refer to it as a squeaker, but I think it's going to be close," said Hoyer (D-Md.) "This is a huge undertaking."

Language on abortion and illegal immigrants was still being negotiated, Hoyer said of the bill, estimated to cost more than $1 trilion over 10 years. it still has to be reconciled with a Senate version, with no clear timeline for a Senate vote apparent yet.

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Is anyone going to read the thing before they vote on it?


OK JUMP IN LOONY LEFTIE LIBS 5 . . . .4 . . . .3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .

- BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE A LOONY LEFTIE???

It means something to be a democrat ~ high taxes, fiscal irresponsibility, abortion the 1st choice always, compassion for terrorists and murderers, deep reverence for despotic rulers and Bolsheviks, an underlying hatred for America, an open hatred for Israel, a peculiar desire for weak / unreliable wind energy or better yet No energy, no recognition of the rights of state government or the individual but special rights for special people, servitude for the 95% not fortunate to be born in America, the inherent right of democrats to re-define your position as the political paradighm shifts, and always an expansion of the power of the federal government to control every aspect of every one else’s existence. The more miserable that existence can become,the better for your cause.


The party of owe strikes again:

- huge tax increase

- knee jerk reaction based on refuted, controversial, political, unproven science

- Never let a crisis go to waste

- kill jobs and increase reliance upon the government

- no evidence that the proposed legislation will have any bearing on purported man made global climate change, formerly known as global warming. (one study shows Waxman Markey impacting global temps by 9/100 of 1 degree F by 2050.)

-full support of Swamp lemmings, granola eaters, celebrities, the Nobel Academy, and Algore

- Exempting China and India, further ensuring no environmental impact and vast wealth redistribution

- Naively believing that fossil fuels can be instantly replaced with the ample gifts from mother Gia's bosoms: wind, sun, geothermal, wave action, bovine flatulence, and acacia berries.

- Exempting Algore's mansion.


Meanwhile, in Tuesday's election the VOTERS gave the Dems two more GAINED votes from CA-10 & NY-23 towards passing health reform.

Obama=victory


Amazing stuff isn't it? A massive piece of legislation that the majority of Congress hasn't even read yet and they plan on having a "Vote" on a Saturday - this Saturday when......

Language on abortion and illegal immigrants was still being negotiated, Hoyer said of the bill, estimated to cost more than $1 trilion over 10 years. it still has to be reconciled with a Senate version, with no clear timeline for a Senate vote apparent yet.

Still negotiating some of the language but hey, run it up for a vote before people read it, if they're interested that is. In the meantime, keep the lights down low, the white-out handy and look up some more words that can have at least four or five meanings to confuse the heck out of everyone who tries to get an understanding of the thing.


China and India can afford to produce more CO2 and therefore feed and grow more vegetation and trees for their ever increasing population, our telephone companies and their liabilities cut trees down like match sticks and we supplement our farmers not to grow vegetation for our ever increasing waist line in front of the TV.


If Republicans wonder why most Americans view them as part of the fringe extreme, they need not look beyond this event. While Democrats were touting the endorsement of AARP, Michele Bachmann and the House leadership were rallying amidst signs like this, shoulder to shoulder with 2,000 teabaggers.


How dare these fracking teabagger types misuse these horrifying photos from a genuine mass genocide more than 60 years ago to misrepresent a healthcare system that is more conservative than that currently being used in 36 other industrialized democracies around the world. I cannot see the parallel between the two.


I know Representative Bachmann gave up her Federal Healthcare, once she entered Office. Don't you just love false faces, sweet hypocrisy?? The Republican-Libertarians, always keep several on hand or on face !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.


What do freedom-loving Americans have to do with any of Michelle Bachmann's plans?


Bachmann is a Christian-Taliban type; "freedom" is nothing she or her followers want anything to do with. You show them freedom and they start flipping through their Bibles to find some passage in Deuteronomy that can tell you why TheAlmightyGawd screams "no no no" when you do that. What freaking freedom has a hardcore evangelical ever actually promoted? They're always wanting to shut things down, not give you more options.


In the words of Bill Hicks, "You are free to do what we tell you."


Bachmann's "freedom" is just talk with nothing to back it up. She and her kind live in terror of real freedom, because they cannot survive in a free environment. That's why they have to fight to keep evolution from being taught, doctor history texts to keep facts out, even re-write their own Bible. Their fear of freedom is why they can't let women decide what to do about their own pregnancies, or let gay people decide to get married or not.


The word "freedom," from the piehole of Michelle Bachmann. Now that's funny.



The entire Republican party has been taken over by an echo chamber of low IQ toothless rednecks who still haven't figured out that outside of their little cult people view them as being repulsive.


And I love how they're all claiming that they're going to win in 2012.....win with who exactly? Palin? Mittens Romney? Goober Huckleberry? Racist Joe Wilson? ha ha ha! The Teabaggers are all just as delusional as their heroes Bozo Beck and Michelle Bachman are.
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/14/779699/-912-Teabaggers-in-their-own-words
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The Rip Van Wacko Teabaggers - asleep for 8 years of Bu$hco war lies and tax cuts for billionaires only to wake up on Jan 20th to find a black man in the White House. Oh, Noes!



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It means something to be a democrat ~ high taxes, fiscal irresponsibility, abortion the 1st choice always, compassion for terrorists and murderers, deep reverence for despotic rulers and Bolsheviks
Posted by: Billy Mobbie | November 5, 2009 1:37 PM
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ATTENTION SWAMPERS!:


I try to keep in mind that this person's rage (see above) comes from political impotence (GOP), from being shown to the un-mowed backyard of history to be put up on blocks. That's how I keep from hitting people. and you should too. These kinds of people (see above) are to dumb to know any better. Ignore them...



There are many striking things about a bunch of self-entitled Republican white men, crouching down together, waving bags of dried leaves in the air as they whine vaguely about losing the country they've been in firm control of for eight long years. Not the least of which is the fact that they decided to call themselves "teabaggers".
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagger
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What exactly do you liberals that support this bill like about it? I dare you to name one thing...


So the teabaggers hate socialism, right ? Then they should turn in their library cards, keep their little teabagettes out of public schools, disconnect from any municipal water and sewer projects, organize a bucket brigade rather than call the fire dept. hire private security instead of calling the cops, stay off tollways and refuse social security and medicare.
Let them walk the anti-socialist
walk by refusing to partake in homeowners associations.
The truth is that the teabaggers and their various dysfunctional hypocrite leaders, such as Beck & Bachmann, are dloing the bidding of big business interests and hoping the rest of America is as stupid and gullible as they are. Not hardly.


What exactly do you liberals that support this bill like about it? I dare you to name one thing...

Posted by: Gary | November 5, 2009 2:39 PM
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Alex, what is....coverage for when you get sick, can't afford your medical bills and your insurance company drops you?


Bring on the next stupid Teabagger Jeopardy question!



The Teabaggers want a country with no black people, minorites or gay people. They want a white utopia, a place where the sun shines all the time, the sky is Red White and Blue, fields of grain sing patriotic songs every morning and they awaken on clean white linen, Sarah Palin is the President, and no funny "lookin'" people for ten thousand miles.


I suspect that even given a teabag dreamland like that, they would still find someone to hate, because it is in their very nature to hate what makes them afraid



What exactly do you liberals that support this bill like about it? I dare you to name one thing...

Posted by: Gary | November 5, 2009 2:39 PM


Gary, name calling is all they can do. It takes no intelligence, they are easy to train and keep fired up.


The Teabaggers, with generous support from the right-wing astroturf machine ("Hi, Fox News!" "Hi, FreedomWorks!"), are using "tea parties" as a catch-all to vent their frustrations. On the surface it's about taxes (even though President Obama has cut taxes on the middle class) and spending (even though government spending is the only thing that will lessen the severity of the recession and prevent it from becoming a depression). But bubbling under the surface is the old social-wedge issue chestnuts, God, Guns and Gays. In other words, the usual boring old nonsense dripping from the mouths and cardboard signs of a severely misinformed Repulican segment of our population, aided by a right-wing media machine that has trained them to tune in every night and suck their nuts. I believe there's a term for that specific act but I'm too pure of thought to know what it is.


It all boils down to this, my friends, as articulated so beautifully by Anti-Christ abettor Jon Stewart: "Republicans, I think you are confusing tyranny with losing."



I think it is appropriate to call Republican congresspeople and ask why these Republicans endorse this kind of stupidity. Not heated, just fact-finding.


Health Care Reform = Concentration Camps and mass killings?


Of course right wing America is truly uneducated in some ways and there is no telling if any of this stupidity means anything to some of them.


Why are the Nazis always the focus? Don't get it at all. I guess it is one of the few words most Teabaggers recognize - even if they're not sure why they know it is not 'good.'


The Health Insurance Lobby is creating mobs of sickness and hatred. And the Republicans are aiding and abetting it.



What exactly do you liberals that support this bill like about it? I dare you to name one thing...

Posted by: Gary | November 5, 2009 2:39 PM
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Alex, what is....coverage for when you get sick, can't afford your medical bills and your insurance company drops you?


Bring on the next stupid Teabagger Jeopardy question!

Posted by: JoAnne | November 5, 2009 3:06 PM

To reply with the same tone to your silly name calling is tempting...but I won't.

So JoAnne we need 2000 pages to say that insurers cannot drop you? I don't think so. We could have had that months ago. We could have had cheaper coverage months ago by allowing competition across state lines. This bill doesn't allow that and it won't make insurance cheaper or better, and it sure won't improve the quality of healthcare.

You are going to wait twice as long to be seen. How many people will die during that extra waiting time? I guess that's OK with you.

And, since you can't be denied coverage, what's the point of paying monthly? Just wait until you need it and sign up. That should really lower costs!


Gary, name calling is all they can do. It takes no intelligence, they are easy to train and keep fired up.

Posted by: springfield | November 5, 2009 3:16 PM
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Biff, why don't you right wing rubes take a break from playing the victim card here and look at who it is that is really doing the name calling, shall we?
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http://community.livejournal.com/ontd_political/3983339.html#cutid1
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You are going to wait twice as long to be seen. How many people will die during that extra waiting time? I guess that's OK with you. And, since you can't be denied coverage, what's the point of paying monthly? Just wait until you need it and sign up. That should really lower costs!

Posted by: Gary | November 5, 2009 3:59 PM
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And you know this, how?


Because Crazy Glenn Beck and Michelle Bachmann told you so?


Sounds like you've been sniffing to many dried Teabag leaves, Gary.



brooke:(sThe Teabaggers want a country with no black people, minorites or gay people. (snip)

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..or women. especially those feminazi's who want to take jobs away from white men, speak when not spoken to, are not *pure* on their wedding night, possess an independent thought, vote their conscience or just plain exist.
In other words, they want a world of only middle age angry white men with over-developed sense of entitlements.


WOW THE LEFTIES ARE OUT IN FULL FORCE! ! !
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NOTICE HOW MANY POSTS ARE ONLY NAME CALLING. NO FACTS, NO ARGUMENT, NO COUNTERPOINT, JUST NAME CALLING. SADLY TYPICAL.

Like every Republican is a rich middle-aged white guy. Yeah right. So which is it? The toothless rubes or middle aged white guy?


Here's the sorts of "progress' you can expect from "progressives":
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Cat declawing now a crime in San Francisco
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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nation/strange/Cat-declawing-now-a-crime-in-San-Francisco-69298312.html


And you know this, how?


Because Crazy Glenn Beck and Michelle Bachmann told you so?


Sounds like you've been sniffing to many dried Teabag leaves, Gary.


Posted by: JoAnne | November 5, 2009 4:29 PM

No smartass, because IF you put 20 million illegal aliens into the system along with the maybe 10 million legal citizens and they now have "free" healthcare, they will overburden the system making longer waits for everyone. That doesn't include the plans to ration healthcare and review boards to see if you really need that test. Or maybe you think we just pull doctors out of the magic pipe of "medical pot" that you just flamed up.

Long waits are one of the problems of "free" government run healthcare systems. So, I guess the Canadians will have to go to Mexico or India for their procedures. You remember Mexico, it's where you got your lobotomy giving you a democrat for life brain.


Still Worng,

I love how when you flatliners quote the great gov't services, you always mention infrastructure and defense.

Second, why is it an all or nothing proposition? How about ala carte?

Considering I have paid my fair share of taxes over the years for these gov't services, I think I can use them.

As for ala carte:

Library Card - keep it, give me a tax rebate for this.

Water and Sewer - pay for that quarterly. Part of infrastructure, a true function of gov't. Many people do live w/o the gov't providing these services. Ever have a well and septic tank?

Fire Dept and Cops - Defense - another gov't function.

Tollways? Those are paid for by the people that use them - thus the name genius.

Social Security and Medicare - refund my $$$ NOW. I could do better than this gov't run Ponzi scheme.

Eliminate the department of education, energy, HUD, Interior, and Transportation - no reason federal gov't s/b involved in these items.


I.....TERRY....do solemnly swear to uphold the principles of a socialism-free society and heretofore pledge my word that I shall strictly adhere to the following:


I will complain about the destruction of 1st Amendment Rights in this country, while I am duly being allowed to exercise my 1st Amendment Rights.


I will complain about the destruction of my 2nd Amendment Rights in this country, while I am duly being allowed to exercise my 2nd Amendment rights by legally but brazenly brandishing unconcealed firearms in public.


I will foreswear the time-honored principles of fairness, decency, and respect by screaming unintelligible platitudes regarding tyranny, Nazi-ism, and socialism at public town halls. Also.


I pledge to eliminate all government intervention in my life. I will abstain from the use of and participation in any socialist goods and services including but not limited to the following:


Social Security


Medicare/Medicaid


State Children’s Health Insurance Programs (SCHIP)


Police, Fire, and Emergency Services


US Postal Service


Roads and Highways


Air Travel (regulated by the socialist FAA)


The US Railway System


Public Subways and Metro Systems


Public Bus and Lightrail Systems


Rest Areas on Highways


Sidewalks


All Government-Funded Local/State Projects (e.g., see Iowa 2009 federal senate appropriations)


Public Water and Sewer Services (goodbye socialist toilet, shower, dishwasher, kitchen sink, outdoor hose!)


Public and State Universities and Colleges


Public Primary and Secondary Schools


Sesame Street


Publicly Funded Anti-Drug Use Education for Children


Public Museums


Libraries


Public Parks and Beaches


State and National Parks


Public Zoos


Unemployment Insurance


Municipal Garbage and Recycling Services


Treatment at Any Hospital or Clinic That Ever Received Funding From Local, State or Federal Government (pretty much all of them)


Medical Services and Medications That Were Created or Derived From Any Government Grant or Research Funding (again, pretty much all of them)


Socialist Byproducts of Government Investment Such as Duct Tape and Velcro (Nazi-NASA Inventions)


Use of the Internets, email, and networked computers, as the DoD's ARPANET was the basis for subsequent computer networking


Foodstuffs, Meats, Produce and Crops That Were Grown With, Fed With, Raised With or That Contain Inputs From Crops Grown With Government Subsidies


Clothing Made from Crops (e.g. cotton) That Were Grown With or That Contain Inputs From Government Subsidies
If a veteran of the government-run socialist US military, I will forego my VA benefits and insist on paying for my own medical care


I will not tour socialist government buildings like the Capitol in Washington, D.C.


I pledge to never take myself, my family, or my children on a tour of the following types of socialist locations, including but not limited to:


Smithsonian Museums such as the Air and Space Museum or Museum of American History


The socialist Washington, Lincoln, and Jefferson Monuments


The government-operated Statue of Liberty


The Grand Canyon


The socialist World War II and Vietnam Veterans Memorials


The government-run socialist-propaganda location known as Arlington National Cemetery


All other public-funded socialist sites, whether it be in my state or in Washington, DC


I will urge my Member of Congress and Senators to forego their government salary and government-provided healthcare.


I will oppose and condemn the government-funded and therefore socialist military of the United States of America.


I will boycott the products of socialist defense contractors such as GE, Lockheed-Martin, Boeing, Northrop Grumman, General Dynamics, Raytheon, Humana, FedEx, General Motors, Honeywell, and hundreds of others that are paid by our socialist government to produce goods for our socialist army.


I will protest socialist security departments such as the Pentagon, FBI, CIA, Department of Homeland Security, TSA, Department of Justice and their socialist employees.


Upon reaching eligible retirement age, I will tear up my socialist Social Security checks.


Upon reaching age 65, I will forego Medicare and pay for my own private health insurance until I die.


SWORN ON A BIBLE AND SIGNED THIS DAY OF


TERRY - Teabagistan, Alabama
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Signed Printed Name/Town and State



No smartass, because IF you put 20 million illegal aliens into the system along with the maybe 10 million legal citizens and they now have "free" healthcare
Posted by: Gary | November 5, 2009 6:57 PM
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Wrong again, Gary


Other than you and Joe "You Lie" Wilson, no one is saying that illegals are going to be covered in the health reform bill.


Just because you Right Wing goons hate brown people doesn't mean you speak for everyone else in the sane part of America, you don't. In fact it sounds like you've been sniffing Lou Dobbs' exhaust fumes for to long.



terry, spokesperson for the
" no bank left behind " movement posted:

Still Worng,
(snip)
Considering I have paid my fair share of taxes over the years for these gov't services, I think I can use them.

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..your fair share, huh. sounds kinda..sorta..socialistic to me..Thanks for helping me make my point. The fact is, socialism is OK as long as you are first in line and the others in back of you are like you in the way they look and think.
Anytime you find people living among eachother, you will find elements of socialism present.



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Like every Republican is a rich middle-aged white guy. Yeah right. So which is it? The toothless rubes or middle aged white guy?

Posted by: Billy Mobbie | November 5, 2009 5:38 PM
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BOTH



OH PLEASE NANCY HAVE THE GOVERNMENT "FIX" HEALTHCARE. IT WILL BE GREAT. Just like the Post Office and GM and AMTRAK choo choo!

Meanwhile back to reality:

http://www.aarp.org/community/groups/displayTopic.bt?pageNum=1&groupId=21052&topicId=4654992

Guess Who's #1 in Denying Health Insurance Claims -- Medicare

Maybe Nancy will be in charge of deciding who gets surgeries and who doesn't.

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/08/17/hows-that-government-run-health-care-working-out-canada-2/

How’s That Government-run Health Care Working Out Canada?

Last week we passed along the news that the Vancouver Coastal Health Authority is considering cutting more than 6,000 surgeries to make up for a $200 million budget shortfall. British Columbia Medical Association president Dr. Brian Brodie called the proposed surgical cuts “a nightmare.”


The current government Plan, Medicare denies claims up to twice as often as private plans. But you ignorant liberals all Goosestep to the same drum beat. Bad mean corporations, Bad mean insurance companies. When in reality the government is twice as BAD AND MEAN.

Who in their right mind would want the same type of government workers that run the DMV running their healthcare except liberals? Well, when you get a chance to get a "free" checkup have them check for brain activity.


Liberals,


Django here. Trying to take a softer tone in places like a Swamp. To be clear, NOT reaching out to any of you ~ I know about how well that would work. Just trying to read through all of the comments here and enjoy Swamp ambiance.


Sok, how ya doing today. Sok says Republicans are “low IQ toothless rednecks”. Sok, I’m am not real big on dental visits, but I still have all of my teeth, and if u only knew, I would love to go head to head with anyone on a Quantitative (fancy word for Math) SAT, GMAT, GRE, or similarly designed test for either a prize or a treat. I would decide if it was worth it. A bad Django Day = 725 on these kind of tests based on too many that I keep having to take over the years. When u get one problem right, the next one will automatically be harder. Computer Adaptive Testing (CAT), they call it. I thought it was some type of scan at first. Stupid me.


Writerofwrongs, how ya doing today. Django is a Mongrel. I probably would not fare too well in this ‘middle-age angry white guy world with the over-developed sense of entitlements’ if I may paraphrase u. Please let’s not let that happen. And just how does Terry look, anyway? Panoramic Swamp Vision (PSV).


Do Liberals think that there cannot possibly be any legitimate issues and concerns that we Republicans Thinkers on the Right are not allowed to raise? The changes that are being very heavily handed imposed on us are very “extreme”, to use a word that democrats favor a lot. Health care, energy, the American way of life, ~ all of these changes will be difficult to fix if they are done badly. Republicans AND moderates as well, very naturally have some very serious concerns and doubts. Is that somehow un-natural.


Have a nice day n your part of
Transitional America.


django: (snipped)

Do Liberals think that there cannot possibly be any legitimate issues and concerns that we Republicans Thinkers on the Right are not allowed to raise? The changes that are being very heavily handed imposed on us are very “extreme”, to use a word that democrats favor a lot. (end snip)

First off, do not presume me to me a liberal because I am not. Nor am I a democrat, anymore than you are a spokesperson for the
" thinkers on the right " which leads me to my next point:
You are not allowed an independent thought; otherwise you will find yourself
purged or labeled a " traitor" or a " socialist " and forced out.
The republican party, thanks to GWB, has been taken over by bigots, ignorant corporate rah-rah sheeple, nazi's and those whose lives are consumed with fear and ignorance. The smart educated ones are gone. The republican party is in shambles
with in-fighting and purges going on. If I were you, I would not advertize my affiliation unless you want to be laughed at,
If you are a thinker, as you claim, why are you still a republican?


Trickled On John E and Still Worng,

Why do you think if the gov't does a few things right (defense and infrastructure), that they should everything for its citizens?

Also, why should the federal gov't be funding Sesame Street? Retirement Funds? Elderly Healthcare? K-12 Education? Cotton Subsidies?

make your best case.


Writerofwrongs @ 3:31 p.m.,


Writerofwrongs, WoW, if I may. I hate it too when folks assume. If u only knew. Vey high on my Hack Me Off List. I really don’t fit into most of the stereotypical slots that are so conveniently used. My most sincere apologies for assuming that u were aligned with the Liberals / democrats.


I also did not mean to imply that I, the Django man, was some kind of great thinkers, on the Right. That's just too funny. George Will, Jonah Goldberg, Mark Levine, Jay Nordlinger are your great Thinkers on the Right (and they are right). Django is just a guy who owns a bunch of nice guitars ~ Stratocasters and Martins. Serious.


Now, WoW, here’s where I have to take exception to your Independent Thought arguments. None of the “bigots, ignorant corporate rah-rah sheeple, nazi’s (must we always go there) would seem to hold true in my view, with respect to your unflattering characterization. Is Jeremiah Wright a bigot? Would Louie Farahann be a bigot? Which party are they most likely to support? Which party are they most likely to oppose?


Corporate rah-rah sheeple? I have earned / stolen most of my living from one corporation or another. Socially, we would never show up in the same places. They use me. I use them. It’s all good.


Nazis? Again, Django is a Mongrel. First they go after the Jews. Always. Second, probably the Poles. They are generally well-hated also. Third, probably the Czechs. Fourth, the Catholics, Baptists, and Methodists. Let me warn u, the Baptists will be nothing but trouble.


Fifth will be the Communists. Now this is interesting because both Nazis and Communists are Fascists and both are actually Left Wingers, but Nazis are wrongly grouped on the Right because they were adamantly opposed to the Communists. I can only tell u that they are competitors but otherwise more alike than different. We have not gotten to the Mongrels yet, but at some point, they would be coming after them, after they have finished off the others. Django can pass for a lot of damn things, but Django is still a damn Mongrel. End of Django, and that is sort of sad.


Education? I can only say that I feel the same way that Charlie Brown feels when YET another hard-hit line drive has knocked his socks off. I feel like a condemned man with respect to having to get one damn degree / certification / license after the other. Aaaaaaaargh! Mercy. Please. If I told u, u wouldn't believe it.


Django believes in Fiscal Responsibility, Low Taxes, a strong National Defense, Real Energy that can actually perform USEFUL work, Fairness and Respect towards All where All really means all. As an engineer, Global Warming offends me much. NOTHING is more sheeple than this. Pretty Latinas are clearly the cause of Global Warming. What more is there to consider?


Django has great respect for Israel. I don’t hate Palestinians. Palestinians are truly wonderful too, but Palestine is not presently a nation. Israel is. Israel is a sovereign nation (ouch! democrats) and they are a true democracy, something that does not appear very much in that part of the World. My prayer would be that Palestine, whenever it does materialize as a nation, will have some Israel qualities to it. Whew! Just Trying, in vain, to pre-empt the “Django hates Palestinians” allegation which inevitably follows.


Finally, and most of all, I still believe in the potential greatness of America. I don’t follow all of the apologies and down-plays that democrats (but not u) always seem to want to attach to that. Republicans disappoint me often, but I still have to be one because I believe that to be my / our only apparent hope (until the Savior arrives, that the Bible and Springsteen have mentioned a time or two). For one thing, my ability to pay taxes does have physical limits. Also, having not done a better job in picking my family, I have observed yellow dog democrats first-hand. Django NO CAN BE THEM. Cut me with a Serrated Knife. Please.


Finally, again, Jim Morrison says “No One Gets Out Alive”, and I believe that also, but voting Republican is my only, current, “hope”. Django loves a funny story, a good joke. Make the joke on me, it’s all good. Meshes very well with my self-deprecating sense of humor. However, I really don’t see any humor in acknowledging that I am a Conservative, first, or a Wingnut, if you prefer, and as the only choice that I have, also a Republican. I believe in the potential greatness of America. I have to vote Republican. Sometimes it is simply a matter of self-survival. If there is a joke here. I’m not getting it and I DO like a good joke.


Are ya enjoying some good weather wherever u are, WoW? It’s been great, very un-Global Warming like, in Red State Numero Uno. America, what a concept.


Django, dude, you got some strange ramblings going on...


make your best case.

Posted by: Terry | November 6, 2009 6:26 PM
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Teabaggy,


Seeing as how I just handed you your butt on a platter, I'm going to do what I always do - let you have the last word.


You see Teabaggy, unlike others on here I realize that you suffer from a bad inferiority complex, which is why you always demand to have the last word on here. In your twisted mind you think having the last word somehow means you won, meanwhile the rest of us on here get to laugh at your stupidity.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferiority_complex
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terry:
Trickled On John E and Still Worng,

Why do you think if the gov't does a few things right (defense and infrastructure), that they should everything for its citizens?
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The role of government is to prevent tyranny; to protect the little person from the big oppressive bully big person; also to provide a national defense. The issue of healthcare reform is a shining example of a "person" bringing harm onto other persons and our government IMO endorsing this practice by not stopping it and permitting our congress to be bought and paid for by these same bullies.
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Also, why should the federal gov't be funding Sesame Street? Retirement Funds? Elderly Healthcare? K-12 Education? Cotton Subsidies?

make your best case.

Posted by: Terry | November 6, 2009 6:26 PM


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The pointless wars in Iraq & Afghanistanfast-tracked our economic collapse and destroyed lives and continues to do so.


Writerofwrongs,


How ya doing. I only addressed the issues raised by u @ 3:31, on this day, in this space.


writerofwrongs,
Don't bother with Terry, he's drunk on GOPer kool-aide. The only way an idiot like him is ever going to get it is if he or someone in his family gets very sick, gets dumped by their insurance company and then goes broke because of the ungodly and never ending high medical costs. But who knows, Terry is such a mind numbing moron that even then he still might not get it.


Trickled On JOhn E,

No where near handing my butt on a platter. As a matter of fact, you diddn't even to attempt to the answer the question on why the federal gov't is involved in the laundry list of items you mentioned. Time to Man up little one.

Always will be wrong,

Can you please quote me in the constitution where it says "The role of government is to prevent tyranny; to protect the little person from the big oppressive bully big person; also to provide a national defense. "

What if it is the gov't that is causing the tyranny and loss of liberty?

You can answer that question of "why should the federal gov't be funding Sesame Street? Retirement Funds? Elderly Healthcare? K-12 Education? Cotton Subsidies?"

Instead you fall back on the cause of the recession being the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan - just like a typical flatliner. Once again, the spending on these wars and teh deficits in general had NOTHING to do with our current recession. The recession was caused by the collapse of the hosuing market. Anyway, I always thought you flatliners thought the gov't started wars to boost the economy.

Once again, go to your local JC and take an econ class.


terry's a girls name posted:
Teabaggy,

Seeing as how I just handed you your butt on a platter, I'm going to do what I always do - let you have the last word.

You see Teabaggy, unlike others on here I realize that you suffer from a bad inferiority complex, which is why you always demand to have the last word on here. In your twisted mind you think having the last word somehow means you won, meanwhile the rest of us on here get to laugh at your stupidity.
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between you post yesterday from Teabagistan, AL and today's, I am ROTFLMAO in a big way.
You are right on target with your assessment of terry, champion of the " no banks left behind " movement.
I am wondering if his banker pals cut him/her in on the H1N1 flu shots they ALL got ;)
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Will Always be wrong,

Still can't answer the questions

Can you please quote me in the constitution where it says "The role of government is to prevent tyranny; to protect the little person from the big oppressive bully big person; also to provide a national defense. "

"why should the federal gov't be funding Sesame Street? Retirement Funds? Elderly Healthcare? K-12 Education? Cotton Subsidies?"


There is a local JUCO calling your name.


terry, from Teabagistan posted the following drivel:

Can you please quote me in the constitution where it says "The role of government is to prevent tyranny; to protect the little person from the big oppressive bully big person; also to provide a national defense. "

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has Terry from Teabagistan ever heard of the Bill Of Rights?



Hey, all of you " abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz ", hiding in and among those letters, come out, come out, whoever you are !! Quit hiding and stand behind the nonsense you post or is that another trick, from the Republican-Libertarian's playbook. It appears that you've brought that old, faulty " smear and fear machine " out of the garage, again !! You saw how it failed you in the last, presidential election and it will fail you again. America is well aware of your lies, your distortions and your fabrications. Don't take my word for it, just look and see who is in our White House. Why, it's President Obama. How did he succeed, in spite of all of the lies that you told about him and his family, all the lies that you told about his positions, all the lies you told about his associations and he was still elected President !! Why don't you just try honesty and straight-forwardness, then maybe your agenda will really be examined or is that what you are really afraid may happen !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.


Always wrong and getting dumber,

Just which amendment of the Bill of Rights does it say "to protect the little person from the big oppressive bully big person"?

The Bill of Rights is to prevent tyranny FROM the GOV'T. The Bill of Rights was not designed to protect the Gov't from its citizens. The Bill of Rights does not guarentee that the little guy is protected from the big guy.

Attend a civics class.


terry of teabagerstan shared the contents of his koolaid-mottled brain :

The Bill of Rights is to prevent tyranny FROM the GOV'T. The Bill of Rights was not designed to protect the Gov't from its citizens. The Bill of Rights does not guarentee that the little guy is protected from the big guy.

Attend a civics class.

you first, gramps:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_purpose_of_the_Bill_of_Rights



Always will be wrong,

Thanks for proving my point

Your answer from link "Certain states were reluctant to ratify the constitution without it.

The Bill of Rights states what the government cannot do and assert the rights given to the people and which no law or government action can interfere.

to protect the freedom of individuals and states.

To give civil rights, power, freedom, and independents to the citizens of America."

Just who is the "big oppresive bully big person" in your quote above?

You are making Trickled On JOhn E look like the smart one.

When in a hole, quit digging


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