Corzine vs. Christie and...: Countdown

This race just goes to show how bad the Republican brand name has become and how the right wing lunatic fringe has taken over control of their party.

It's an off year election in which the Dems hold the White House and Congress. If Republicans actually had anything to offer America there wouldn't be any close races like this out there.

Why I will not vote for John Corzine:

#1 He has been the governor for four years and spending has increased along with taxes. We might be the most heavily taxed State in the Union.

#2 His campaign has been ugly, I thought his ad mocking Christie for being overweight was out of line. Then we have the robocalls, which can drive one insane.

#3 His spending over 20 million dollars on his reelection campaign. I do not believe that rich people should be able to buy elections.

#4 Corruption in the State of New Jersey is out of control and when he first ran for governor he proclaimed he would do something about it. He has failed as is witnessed by the indictments returned just over a month ago.

#5 The Democratic machine is at it again with vote fraud. It is being reported that more absentee ballots have been authorized for this election than in 2008? What is going on?

I would hope that John Corzine return to Goldman Sachs, make a lot of money and then pay a lot of taxes to the State of New Jersey!

The Democratic Party in New Jersey, this day, admitted that they have been paying for robocalls supporting Daggett.

Is the Democratic Party of New Jersey supporting Daggett or Corzine?

I am confused?

Chris Christie is a Republican criminal of the Karl Rove mode.
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http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/10/i_dont_think_theres_much.php
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http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/federal-records-christie-spent-big-on-government-funded-business-trips.php
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http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/09/chris_christie_one_lucky_dude.php
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Corzine has been a disaster as governor. NJ is rife with corruption. It's quite like Illinois in many respects. Problem is that no matter how incompetent the Democrat is or how corrupt the Democrats are, Democrats will vote for Democrats no matter what.
It's like Todd Stroger. More than likely he will remain Crooked Country Board Pres beyong 2010. Despite all the corruption in Illinois Democratic circles among the Madigans, Cullertons, Blagos, Quinns, Hynes, Giannoulous, etc. Democrats will elect them anyway.
To a large degree, Democratic voters are extraordinarly dumb. They get taxed to the hilt, corruption runs the system, yet they will vote for it time and time again. Shameful.

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Corzine has been a disaster as governor. NJ is rife with corruption
Posted by: John D, still right, as usual | November 2, 2009 7:17 PM
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Lil' Johnny Gynecomastia,
Really? And it all started with John Corzine?....yeah, right.

So you think a Karl Rove minion like Chris Christie is going to clean New Jersey up?
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http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/08/karl_rove_says_gop_candidate_c.html

Ha Ha ha!

These elections could swing 15 - 20 points in the % of votes that BO carried just a year ago. I think the country has had enough Dope and Change.

I also hear that the outcome of Miss America will determine the mood of America's voters. Our Mayor also got voted out and his name had many of the same letters in Obama's name. If only he would have called Palin to help.

Big Mike.....I'm a little confused....it sounds as though your voting on local issues.

Back to NY for a minute; My sides are hurting from laughing so hard.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/nyregion/02district.html?ref=politics

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#5 The Democratic machine is at it again with vote fraud. It is being reported that more absentee ballots have been authorized for this election than in 2008? What is going on?

Posted by: Big Mike | November 2, 2009 5:41 PM
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Yeah...because we all know that absentee ballots are a Democratic voter fraud plot!.......not.

You need to pull your head out of Crazy Glenn Beck's backside and get some fresh air, Mikey.

obama is still "dithering" about Afghanistan, (while our troops wait and wait for re-inforcemnts) but the community-organizer-in-chief is still in perpetual campaign mode in N.J. stumping for a man that raised taxes 6-Billion dollars in the last four years.
Something doesn't seem right here, except to obama.

Paulo

Chris Christie is a Republican criminal of the Karl Rove mode.
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http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/10/i_dont_think_theres_much.php
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http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/federal-records-christie-spent-big-on-government-funded-business-trips.php
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http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/09/chris_christie_one_lucky_dude.php
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Posted by: L Votto | November 2, 2009 6:42 PM

WOW REALLY links from a left wing nutsack site. Come on you can do better then that, get real.

How easily voters are confused !! Governor Corzine supports many of President Obama's initiatives, which did not, I repeat, did not, include, starting nor overseeing a "Trillions of Dollars" war, with a third-world nation. Governor Corzine supported President Obama's initiatives to stimulate our economy, which created 100s of Thousands of jobs, especially in the education sector. President Roosevelt created 100s of Thousands of jobs, in our public sector, which helped to save America from an even worse economic depression, had he done nothing !! Governor Corzine believes in a government that helps people, not one that protects Corporations from unbridled greed, malfeasance and irresponsibility !! To the voters of New Jersey, a vote for Governor Corzine is a vote against more Republican-Libertarian policies, that would see patients denied healthcare, because the Corporations claim to have a constitutional right to gouged the public !! If you want more of Bush&Cheney's incompetency and malfeasance, than vote for the Republican-Libertarian fringe !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

It would be a stretch to think that if Corzine loses, it would be a referrendum on Obama. Not even. Chris Christie should be sharing a cell in federal prison with the former Republicum governor of Illinois, George Ryan. And John D., the Republicum voters are just as 'dumb' for re-electing the crooks who infest DuPage county (i.e. Joe Birkett, Bob Schillerstrom, Pat O'Shea, Dan Cronin, Bob Biggins, and ratface Peter Roskscum). I will agree, Illinois politics is dirty and corrupt but the Republicums have absolutely nothing or anybody to offer who can do better!!

These elections could swing 15 - 20 points in the % of votes that BO carried just a year ago. I think the country has had enough Dope and Change.
Posted by: Terry | November 2, 2009 8:08 PM
Excellent comment -
Lets hope it becomes true-

The late and former Democratic Speaker of the U.S. House Tip O'Neill always said that all politics are local. Although many will be talking about the results of the two governor races and the U.S. House race in Upstate New York tomorrow morning, I do not think any of those races will have major effects on the 2010 Elections. In New Jersey Corzine is unpopular and may have worn his welcome out with the voters. But he has outspent his Republican opponent by 2 to 1 and has major Union backing. There also is a third party candidate in the race that could have some effect on the outcome. In Virginia the Republican has a comfortable lead and the state, which Obama carried (1st time a Democrat has carried Virginia since 1964 in a Presidential Race) may be swinging back to the Republicans. The race for the House Race in New York (which had 3 candidates) is even more unusual. The Republican candidate, who was unpopular with Conservatives, dropped out of the race last weekend and endorsed the Democrat. The Republic National Committee after this occurred endorsed the Conservative Party candidate. And the NRA has endorsed the Democrat. All of those races are local and I do not think you can see any national trends out of them. Although Obama carried all three areas last election one must remember that he is not running in this election. All three of those elections are local and should not be held as a referendum on Obama. It will be interesting to see the results tomorrow morning.

To Don Fitzgerald

Its good to see you are on all the swamp boards posting the same nonsense day after day, week after week. You either need to get a job ( although I imagine you are waiting for your messiah to give you free handouts) and become meaningful to society or new material becuase the same old stuff is really getting boring.

Doug R, Not a stretch at all. Plesae explain why Obama has been stumping so hard for Corzine for the past 3 weeks This is not about Corzine at all, It's about Obama. Everything is. The White House has already said this morning that Corzine's loss does not reflect negatively on Obama. Oh, really......

I do not think any of those races will have major effects on the 2010 Elections.

Posted by: Depot- Jim | November 3, 2009 10:28 AM

And that is what Clinton and gang were thinking in his 1st year.

On the eve of the election in New Jersey that Republicans and Democrats will be talking about for months -- with a Quinnipiac University poll portraying a virtual dead heat between the major parties' candidates -- the impact of a third-party challenger is the wild card. ~ M.S.
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Mark Silva, Django here, your xtra set of Swamp eyes. There are at least two wild cards. The 2nd being Election Thievery. I’m sure we both know how these things work. Not only is there a Pequannick River in NJ, but there is also the Manasquan and the Wanaque. The Indian Americans apparently had quite an influence in NJ, at one time. Some of tonight’s precinct boxes that might tend to lean Republican will be spending an indeterminable (a Mathematical term) time in one of these Indian named rivers. We probably both know that.

Little noted fact:

Jon Corzine is a farm boy from Taylorville who went to the U. of I. (at the time it was regarded downstate as Athens in the cornfields).

Then he became chairman of Goldman Sachs.

NJ has not been kind to him.

Corruption there too deep for anyone to make a dent in a few years.

But he is an enormous talent who should have been Treas. Secretary or higher....

To John D, Terry, Django, Springfield, Brucie and the rest of you foamers of nothingness:

The sitting president's party, whichever one it is, routinely loses the gubernatorial races in New Jersey and Virginia. The exit polls in both states showed more voters approved of President Obama's job performance than not, and most people in both states said he had nothing to do with how they voted. (In fact, those who said the president was a factor were evenly split between showing support and opposition to him)

People expressed much more concern about the economy than anything else, but local issues in both states -- Democrat Creigh Deeds' inability to connect with voters in Virginia, and a desire for change in scandal-ridden New Jersey -- also played major roles.

But if anything belies the notion of a "transcendent," unified GOP, it's the victory of a Democrat in the solidly Republican 23rd Congressional District in upstate New York.

So what voice exactly has the GOP found? The moderate one that brought victory in Virginia and New Jersey, or the hard-line conservative one that flopped in New York?

To John D, Terry, Django, Springfield, Brucie and the rest of you foamers of nothingness:…

Posted by: Scot S. Blakeley | November 4, 2009 10:42 AM
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Scot, I perceive progress here. I am all about progress.

1st, Thanx for including my name with John D, Terry, Springfield, and Bruce. They often do express very closely my sentiments as well. I read their comments and counter-arguments, and chill on all of the damn typing. We need to quit meeting up like this in the dark, suspect, hours of the night.

2nd, Thanx for having some kind of argument. Calling folks, even though they are just Swamp folks, a _ _ _ _ _ !! is not particularly conducive to not much of anything going forward, but whatever, either way.

I am sure that we, the “foamers”, all realize that the in-power party, can count on losing seats in non-presidential elections. That’s not that much of a revelation.
However way u want to label the Republican message in VA or NJ s really fine with me, but the fact that Republicans won in a big way probably needs to be acknowledged by the powers that be of the democrat party or they will soon become the lesser powers that be of the out-of- power party.

I thought that Hoffman, the real Republican, was going to win in NY. Obviously he didn’t, but he was shorted on organization, time, and mostly money. No excuses have I, but they will surely be teeing it up again in a few short months and working off of a more level playing field.

I was also wrong about NJ. I surely thought some GOP voter boxes were destined to spend eternity as an underwater fishing reef. Looks like that was kept within the margins. Good for blue NJ.

With respect to the GOP, I can only tell u that all of those 2006, 2008 post-mortems were way too pre-mature. I have seen BOTH parties virtually wiped off the face of the earth only to find their way back. My highly refined political mind does not worry about polls, and underlining messages and the like. The voters will decide.

I can tell u though, that the people who are in office DO NEED to pay attention. Clearly the so-called Independents or moderates, whatever that is, are what they are for a reason. They can cut u in. They can cut u out. They can just cut u. If I were a democrat, I would be like a beagle sniffing the air, every step of the way, and at the least, downscaling whatever it is that I am inflicting on the constituent voters. Even moderates can be found to have limits. That is the moral of the story that I see, and I am just a guy with a bunch of fine guitars.

Posted by: Django - N Exile In/Around the 30th Parallel | November 4, 2009 3:22 PM

Thank you too for a comprehensive and meaningful response. The others tend to puch my buttons with their typical name calling and insults that drive me to do the same. I appreciate your honesty. However I disagree that winning VA and NJ was a big huge win as both of those contests were expected to go that way. Cheers!

Scot, no problem. There needs to be a way to have a virtual reality beer summit in The Swamp. My Swamp detractors probably would not imagine that in real life I would just as likely blend quietly into the background and unobtrusively fingerpick venerable melodies on my acoustic guitar. My political target value in that setting would be, or should be, something close to zero. No problem.