Election Day 2009: Spin-room open

Yawn...Virginia always elects a governor who is of the opposite party of the president.

A win by Hoffman tonight would be great news....for Democrats.

That seat has been held by a Republican for years and years and years.

Hoffman winning will do nothing but make the whack-a-doodle Teabaggers think they can do this all over the country.

Let the GOPer civil war begin, and oh yeah - Pass the Popcorn!

* Per CNN, voters in Virginia did not see their state's gubernatorial race as an opportunity to voice opposition to Barack Obama. A 55 percent majority of voters said that the President was not a factor in their vote, and an additional 18 percent indicated their vote in Virginia was one of support in the President. Just 24 percent of voters indicated that their vote was one of opposition to President Obama. The numbers out of New Jersey are not terribly different, with 60 percent saying that Barack Obama played no role in their gubernatorial vote, 19 percent saying that their vote was one in support of the President, and 20 percent saying that their vote was in opposition to President Obama.

Concludes CNN, this is not a referendum on Barack Obama.

* Chuck Todd is reporting that Barack Obama's approval rating among Virginia voters stands at 51 percent (just under the 52.6 percent of the vote he received in the state last November)
http://twitter.com/chucktodd/status/5403704282

And 57 percent in New Jersey (almost exactly the same as the 57.1 percent of the vote he earned in that state last November). In other words, exit polling indicates President Obama has not really lost supporters over the past year.
http://twitter.com/chucktodd/status/5403776459

This is not a nationalized election. Democratic special election victories in early 2004 had no bearing on the beating we took that November, while a solid Republican showing in MA-05 in 2007 had no bearing on the trashing they took in November of 2008. These were not nationalized elections, and focused mostly on local issues.

Republicans will spin any gains as a repudiation of Obama, but they risk the same level of delusion that Dems suffered when they thought winning special elections in South Dakota and Kentucky in 2004 meant anything more than good Democratic candidates running on local issues beat crappy Republican ones."

60-65 % of the voters in Virginia, upon exiting the polling place, spoke highly of President Obama. That is good enough for me. We would have liked to have won in Virginia, but we knew, going into this election, the Republican-Libertarians were favored. So, we move on to the next item, Healthcare Reform !!!
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"This is a warning shot,'' Rep. Eric Cantor, a Republican from Virginia, said as election returns were coming in from Virginia.

A grown man who attends Britney Spears concerts deserves to have his "warnings" summarily dismissed. Trying to spin this as a referendum on Obama only makes Cantor look sillier than he is. The Virginia race was so predictable that even the most backward Republicans knew McDonnell ran the better campaign and that his opponent was too weak to prevail.

: Congressman Cantor, what do you make of that whole John and Kate Gosselin thing?

Eric Cantor: What John and Kate Gosselin clearly prove is that America rejects the policies coming out of Washington, and rejects Barack Obama's agenda.

Q: Uhm... okay. So, the Yankees are leading 3 games to 2 in the World Series. What do you think?

Eric Cantor: What the Yankees clearly prove is that America rejects the policies coming out of Washington, and rejects Barack Obama's agenda.

Q: Are you okay? Would you like an aspirin?

Eric Cantor: What aspirin clearly proves is that America rejects the policies coming out of Washington, and rejects Barack Obama's agenda.

Q: Uhm, yeah. Thanks for stopping by. Goodbye.

Eric Cantor: What your goodbye clearly proves is that America rejects the policies coming out of Washington, and rejects Barack Obama's agenda.

NY 23 is really a win-even-if-Dems-lose situation. If Owens wins, Democrats take a district that has been in Republican hands for more than 100 years, with the added bonus of Teabaggers everywhere declaring open war against the Republican Party with even more far right primary challenges to any Republican who doesn't toe the whack-a-doodle Glenn Beck line. And if Hoffman wins, Teabaggers high-five and then put up even more far right primary challenges ......

Ahhhh, the spin from the Loony Lefters.
The Republicans CLOBBERED the Dems in Virginia. The fact that 55 percent said Obama had no impact on their vote is basically a non-issue in that most local elections are usually about the local candidates and NOT the national scene.
However, that barely more than half said Obama was not a factor indicates that he was for enough, and a resounding defeat for his policies.
With, two-thirds of the vote in NJ, Christie is defeating the Democrat in a heavily Democratic state by 6 percent. Again, local politics trumps the national scene, but then Obama spent lots of capital to get Corzine re-elected.

Of course it is a rejection of Obama. Obama won Virginia big.
And Schwarzenegger would lose because he's another rino who caved in to the democrats and gave California the BIGGEST TAX INCREASE IN HISTORY. And the state is still broke because the crazed liberals that run the state won't cut anything, and have given huge pay raises to state union workers. And FAT retirement benefits. And the rest of the country is next...unless the Tax revolt continues and it will.

Obama campaigned hard and often for the Democrats in VA and NJ. He laid his reputation on the line in both states in an effort to help his candidates.

Republicans have won both. VA, in fact, was a landslide GOP win. In NJ, the incumbent Democrat, a multi-millionaire, outspent his Republican opponent 3-1 and still lost this normally "blue" state.

Thank you, President Obama.

Face it Loons, the Left is crumbling:
1. In heavily Democratic NJ, the Dem lost.
2. Dems lost big in Virginia.
3. A third-party candidate on the Conservative ticket is barely running below the Democratic candidate in a district Obimbo won by 5 points in 2008.
4. Reid says health care reform may not get through the Senate this year.
5. So-called health care reform was to get done by August. Then by October. Then by the end of October. Then by Thanksgiving. Then by Christmas. And now, not til next year?
Dems hold the Senate 60/40 and the House by nearly an 80 seat majority. And it still can't get done?
6. What has Obimbo done so far?
A WGN poll found that by 56/44 most say since Obimbo was elected the country has gone down the WRONG TRACK. In Illinois?!?!?!
Perhaps since enough folks in NJ said enough to high taxes and corruption, the folks in Illinois will say enough to high taxes and rampant Democratic corruption and incompetence here.

Yep Team Clinton was saying about the same thing in Nov 93 but, not in Nov 94. I can't wait to see the left's spin this Sunday. It has already started, MSNBC is barely covering it.

GOP wins red-state VA. GOP wins VERY red-state NJ. In fact, the results in those 2 states are better for the GOP than in 1993--which was the last time the GOP carried both those governorships.

Pretty good for a party that the media claim is "moribund", with a "death wish", in a "civil war", and "extreme." Perhaps the media might want to re-examine their own biases...

Poor obama...he spent so much time in N.J. and Virginia on our tax dime, but it was for nothing because his tax raising boys lost big time.
Oh well...maybe now he can stop "dithering" about Afghanistan and get down to business...or, he can still be the campainger-in-chief.
Hey obimbo...our troops need Help!

Paulo

The proletariat American voter person has started to stir a little bit, but what, exactly, is in that koolaid that u liberals keep dragging to the party?

I don't agree with some of Obama's decisions, however, I'm still glad he's president now, rather than Bush or McCain. Chances are Bush or McCain would have already bombed Iran. And, the fact that we are debating ANYTHING having to do with domestic policy--given health reform--is amazing. Bush didn't seem to care about Americans or keeping the home fires happy and healthy. McCain seemed all about continuing the Cheney/Bush fears and war talk.

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How to help Obama's numbers? I think it would help Obama if he would do a lot less Geithner, and a lot more Robert Reich. Reich has some good ideas--like separating the Wall Street money from the Main Street money in banks. Obama needs to do a little more Sarbanes-Oxley Act and a lot less Goldman Sachs pact. There are more real Americans than W.S bankers, and from what I've learned, Americans and bankers, as individuals, still only have one vote each in the booth.

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Obama needs to go back to when he was most popular. What was he saying? What was he promising? Obama never had the republicans' numbers, or the republicans' votes. He never will. Better to relax and forget about those fishies. (Bush and his push-it-through House and Senate never cared about being bipartisan--or about oversight--for the six years they existed.) Obama did have most dem voters' votes and most independent votes in November of '08. He needs to go back and make what his promises were then the reality now. They were good promises--and those promises are precisely what made him president today.

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So, what or who got to Obama after the election? Given how McCrystal did a pass around Obama with his press leak on his own (McCrystal's) desires for Afghanistan--if I was Obama-- I wouldn't totally trust the daily intelligence briefings from the pentagon. And, the briefings sure shouldn't make Obama demure to wishes that are not his own, and not the wishes of the majority of voters--the people who gave him the initial higher numbers. Cheney continues to have security clearance as a courtesy. ($#!&???) That is counterproductive on so many levels--especially on a national level. No one--and no voter--ever wants to see their chosen leader demure to the ideals of liars, con artists and manipulators who were in power the previous eight years. Obama's courtesy and demuring will be his achilles heel. Heck, for the religious base even--dem or repub--the psalms are full of prayers for fighting, surviving and asking for enemies to be crushed--or made to be confused.

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Obama needs to also look over the Bush presidency and highlight all major and minor decisions, laws passed (tax cuts) during the first six years of Bush, and all his presidential orders. Then, it would be helpful if Obama reversed most of them--helpful mostly now with the economy. Obama needs to do this due to the huge and devastating problems Bush left this nation. I won't say Bush left Obama the problems--Bush left the problems to all of us. Obama will be OK if he listens to the Obama of '08--and if he shows Americans he is more for Main Street than for Wall Street. That, above all, would give me confidence.
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P.S. Could it be time to burn or to napalm some crops in Afghanistan--after first asking the farmers of poppies to do it themselves, and to grow other things? Isn't the UN big on reclaiming desert land and teaching and providing for Green Revolution stuff? The coalition nations need to cut off the insurgent funding now. The same way the world forced Germany not to ever have an army of their own is the way the world can tell Afghanistan never to grow the raw material for heroin. And, the Afghans can't BS and say they grow poppies for the hugh flower auction in the Netherlands--when it's a fact that so much heroin flows through and out of their nation--or their land of war lords--or whatever it is.

Need food, not 'change.' Need real working people, not 'expect-something- to-drop-easily-from-big government people.' Need a different change now. Need Good Change! Thank you, Obama --- good job on FOX News!

Spin all you want Looooonly Leftie Libs. THAT WAS A SPANKING!!!!!!! And probably just a pre-cursor to 2010. This country is made up of twice as many Conservatives as Libs. And then there's those pesky Independents that have obviously voted with their feet. The Oblama Buzz . . . long since forgotten. The poor and the young that are easily fooled and placated stayed home, just as they will in 2010.

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The Republicans CLOBBERED the Dems in Virginia.

Posted by: John D, still right, as usual | November 3, 2009 9:59 PM

Hardly Johnny, as losing Virginia was expected and generally speaking any state doing poorly economically (New Jersey) the incumban usually loses) . But tell me, hows that district 23 working out for you? THAT was the real message!

Virginia and New Jersey are non issues. The voters , in those states, did what they have done for decades. The voted in a party opposite of the President.
The real story is the meltdown of the GOP. The split is becoming obvious. The moderate Republicans versus the intolerant Conservatives. Look at New Jersey as an indicator of things to come. Division and revenge against each other will prevent them from achieving their various agendas. The hard right does not have a chance, they are too indoctrinated in hate and division, There are not enough rednecks in the US to sustain a party that can consistently win. The moderate Republicans cannot beat the Democrats without the fringe rights numbers. While the GOP falls victim to its own philosophy the Democrats will grow in strength and dominate the political scene for years to come. They can still attract the moderate and independent thinkers out there that will be disgusted with the hard right and realize a vote for a neutered Republican party is futile.

Here's some spin from a liberal: This is a wake-up call for democrats. Obama and the congress are not listening to what we want. So people are getting discouraged and not voting. This is particularly true among young people and black people. The trend is going to continue, and republicans are going to win not so much because the country has turned conservative, but because moderate and liberal people have lost their enthusiasm. Congratulations to the GOP winners. I for one am happy for the wake-up call.

Obama campaigned hard and often for the Democrats in VA and NJ. He laid his reputation on the line in both states in an effort to help his candidates.
Posted by: Bruce | November 3, 2009 10:47 PM

Why Bruce.....you didn't quote any democrats so your opinion is moot. Talk about reputation, the big story you failed to mention was that after Palin, Beck, Limpbag, and Vannity stomped for Hoffman in a district republican since the Civil War, the American people and the republican party said KEEP THE CRAZIES OUT OF OUR PARTY. While Va. followed a 36 year precident of electing the opposite of the party in the Whitehouse, and NJ with an unpopular candidate in Corzine, it is good that at least you have something to grasp at to keep complete depression away, the big story remains a resounding vote against the crazies and extremists. But you can't fix stupid so please put Palin on the 2012 ballot.

Beginning to show America is getting fed up with Obamism fast,

Someone out there must be spiking the cool-aide!. The White House claims that NObama was not watching the election results last night, does anyone out there want to buy the Brooklyn Bridge?. Mr, Littman is one great spin doctor. he claims this election had nothing to do with NObama, I don't know how he can say that when everyone was complaining about the large deficit spending, health care reform and unemployment, these are all NObamas' babies. Listen up President Bush is no longer in office duh!. This is Nonamas' , Waterloo.!

Someone out there must be spiking the cool-aide!. The White House claims that NObama was not watching the election results last night, does anyone out there want to buy the Brooklyn Bridge?. Mr, Littman is one great spin doctor. he claims this election had nothing to do with NObama, I don't know how he can say that when everyone was complaining about the large deficit spending, health care reform and unemployment, these are all NObamas' babies. Listen up President Bush is no longer in office duh!. This is Nonamas' , Waterloo.!

Ahh, the desperate ramblings of the ridiculous right. You guys are so pathetic, but go ahead and latch on to what ever gets you through the day. The Democratic Party gained two congressional seats yesterday; one in a district that hasn't had a Democrat in over a century. I applaud the Republicans in that district who rejected the crazy right wing agenda and voted their conscience and on the issues. That's more than I can say for right wing hacks like John D, Paulo, Terry, and the rest of their ilk, who rely only on lies and hyperbole to smear President Obama on a daily basis; that's what losers do.

To John D and Brucie and you other foamers of nothingness:

The sitting president's party, whichever one it is, routinely loses the gubernatorial races in New Jersey and Virginia. The exit polls in both states showed more voters approved of President Obama's job performance than not, and most people in both states said he had nothing to do with how they voted. (In fact, those who said the president was a factor were evenly split between showing support and opposition to him)

People expressed much more concern about the economy than anything else, but local issues in both states -- Democrat Creigh Deeds' inability to connect with voters in Virginia, and a desire for change in scandal-ridden New Jersey -- also played major roles.

But if anything belies the notion of a "transcendent," unified GOP, it's the victory of a Democrat in the solidly Republican 23rd Congressional District in upstate New York.

So what voice exactly has the GOP found? The moderate one that brought victory in Virginia and New Jersey, or the hard-line conservative one that flopped in New York?

Did I hear correctly on this guy who won from upstate NY that in a year he will have to run again? He'll have to start running all over again before you know it.

I love it! Reading the rediculous comments above reinforces my belief that all democrats a dizzy, lieing cheats who have no morals or ethics. But I will admit that too many Republicans are the exact same way!

The spin factor? was created by a Democrat, perfected by the Democrat party and used to elect Barack Obama into the White House.

Well, the bells are ringing and the sheeple are wiping the fairy dust from their eyes. Oh my, that great and wonderful Oz, that magnificent voice and giver of incredibly mesmerizing speeches is just that little guy behind the curtain acting like he's really somebody.

I know it's hard to admit defeat. It's hard to see your status deminish and your followers walk off to a different path than yours but reality is starting to set in on this one. The party is over. The Honeymoon is over. The Campaign is over - he won! He just can't convince the sheeple anymore with promises of change and hope, he has to produce to keep his flock (well the ones with brains anyway).

Posted by: springfield | November 4, 2009 1:16 PM

So how'd that 23rd district work for you huh? That was a more important win then the two gubernaturals that everyone knew would go to your dreaming of nothing offering nothing party. Try agian buddy.

the rediculous comments
lieing cheats
(well the ones with brains anyway).

There you go again......don't you hate it when the anal pick on silly things? Would the ones with brains please correct the spelling on this?

Obama not involved in these elections???? What a laugh.
Since the Swamp won't show these pictures, here's a link to the Dem flyer used in VA, with a huge photo of Obama and the catchphrase "He needs us". The Dem candidate, Deeds, was barely mentioned. And a Dem billboard in NJ, complete with a huge photo of Obama hugging Corzine. http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/