Republicans boycott climate-bill hearing

Even Voinovich is not anxious to complete the destruction of the American economy with this piece of worthless garbage.

Hey Django, I see that you support Republicans and their pro-business ways to the detriment of people. So I'm sure you're behind BP who, 4 years later, got fined $87 million dollars for not correcting safety hazards that caused an explosion and the deaths of 15 workers in 2005. They're only people, so what's the big deal. right? But an $87 million fine for arrogance - now THAT'S just plain wrong in your eyes.

Demand that the facts be known?
Shame on those Republicans!
Next thing you know, those evil Republicans might actually ask that Democrats read the bill before they vote on it!

The Republicans are so desparate, hypocritical, and frustrated. This shows all they have no ideas, no visions, no plans and absolutely nothing to offer the American people. They probably would be incapable of comprehending the bill even if they did read it.

Boxer said..."There is no reason to do additional analysis and spend more taxpayer dollars when the work has been done," Boxer said, declaring that there were over 300,000 pages of documentation supporting the EPA's analysis of the bill. "We need to move forward."

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Liberal interpretation : We want to save taxpayer money by not allowing the discovery of inconvenient facts, logic or reason to get in the way of spending more taxpayer money...

Reality: Hurry up and get nonsense climate legislation passed before people realize that honest scientific support of the "crisis" of climate change is drying up..

The Party of No strikes again..

No ideas

No plans

No clue....zero, zip, nada
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If you can't stand the heat, get out of our Senate !! The Republican-Libertarians are, oh, so fond of our constitution, yet they can't even perform their constitutional duties. Kick the bums all the way back to their districts and let them answer to their constituents, why they aren't representing them !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Inhofe walks out only to find out he's irrelevant.

Inhofe can keep on walking all the way back to Oklahoma

Inhofe and Coburn? Really? These are the two best and brightest that the Repukelicans could come up with to represent them? Out of all the folks who live in Oklahoma THESE are the best you could come up with? HaHaHa!

The Republicans really do want to turn the calendar back - there's no racism to worry about if blacks know their place, there's no competition from women if women are barefoot and pregnant, and life is easy if WASPs rule the world. Well, it's easy for the WASPs and that's what matters, right? We are in the Gilded Age again which is tragic. As long as this ideology is acceptable our economy will strangle, our middle class will disappear, and our nation will sink into irrelevance.

Liberal interpretation : We want to save taxpayer money by not allowing the discovery of inconvenient facts, logic or reason to get in the way of spending more taxpayer money...
Posted by: heartburn | November 3, 2009 1:55 PM
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Wingnut interpretation: We want to stall because we want to prevent Democrats (and America) from getting anything done. If it doesn't benefit the richest 1%, we're against it. We're nothing but a group of doughy white rich guys and what we say goes.

What's the problem, let the Republicans drag this out. Let them OK spending more money for a report that has already been given. That way, when the EPA comes back with the same recommendation 6 weeks later, the Democrats can turn to the cameras and say with sincerity and truth, the Republicans are still being obstructionists and are wasting the time and treasure of the Amercian people to grandstand rather than govern.

The GOP is trying to pass off GOP committee members Voinovich and Alexander as leaders of the obstruction that "Inhofe has been working to orchestrate." The ship for spinning these players as reasonable sailed a long time ago. A leaked GOP delay memo (pdf file) spelled out the plan of parliamentary delay because the: "bottom line is that the GOP very much wants to have this fight, engage in it for a prolonged period, and then make it as difficult as possible to move off the bill."

Delay is no longer just a former Republican leader; it has become a Republican way of life as a political calculation to stop DC from remedying the shitload of messes that Obama inherited from Bush. Inhofe has indicated that one of his goals is not just a delay of a month or more for a duplicated EPA study, but rather this would likely be the first of more delays to reach his target of the model of good legislative negotiation, the 2 years used for Bush's "Clear Skies" initiative. Thus, the current Inhofe delay tactic also needs to be evaluated in the context of the broader pattern of delaying climate change legislation by any means possible:
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The party of owe strikes again:

- huge tax increase

- knee jerk reaction based on refuted, controversial, political, unproven science

- Never let a crisis go to waste

- kill jobs and increase reliance upon the government

- no evidence that the proposed legislation will have any bearing on purported man made global climate change, formerly known as global warming. (one study shows Waxman Markey impacting global temps by 9/100 of 1 degree F by 2050.)

-full support of Swamp lemmings, granola eaters, celebrities, the Nobel Academy, and Algore

- Exempting China and India, further ensuring no environmental impact and vast wealth redistribution

- Naively believing that fossil fuels can be instantly replaced with the ample gifts from mother Gia's bosoms: wind, sun, geothermal, wave action, bovine flatulence, and acacia berries.

- Exempting Algore's mansion.

Wingnut interpretation: We want to stall because we want to prevent Democrats (and America) from getting anything done. If it doesn't benefit the richest 1%, we're against it. We're nothing but a group of doughy white rich guys and what we say goes.

Posted by: antacid | November 3, 2009 2:48 PM

Wow- that type of comeback may have been clever if it wasn't some variation of every response you have for anything in this space...are you able to respond to a post w/o referencing someones skin color? I know you probably get that a lot- don;t mean to pile on but MAN are you predictable..

Do you honestly believe that something as invasive as climate change legislation is not worth another 5 weeks to be sure the scientific data supports the political solution?

I will patiently wait for you to cut and paste your answer from some bedwetting blog out there in la la liberal land..

If it is good--if it is for life--if it can help man or nature-- the repugs are against it. What are the odds, really, that ALL the pugs are, in their hearts, against the same things? There has to be more to the story. The fact that the pugs are boycotting informational meetings tells me they don't want to learn anything outside of their own predetermined knowledge bubble.

Hearings are usually very informational.

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Posted by: ThepartyofOWE | November 3, 2009 3:58 PM
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The Party of Owe/Republican?

Yeah, I remeber them well...
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- Tax cuts for the richest 1%, big oil and big corporations

- Start two wars, one (Iraq) based on lies

- Torture and commit war crimes

- Tank the economy by allowing Wall Street to run like a casino with Ronny Raygun, trickledown voodoo economic policies.

Yeah, I remember them. Hey, hatever happened to those guys anyway?
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And this is what the Republicans call trying to reach across the aisle?

Not showing up --I bet they say that now they can't vote on a bill because they don't know what was said in the meetings.

This is how they represent their constituents by not showing up? I'd vote every last one of them out because they are NOT representing me. They are being paid a good salary AND insurance benefits, something many do not have, and they don't go to work?

No little gender challenged liberal JohnEE cut and paste, posting under 4 names in this one article thus far, the Party of Owe is the lib party in charge, running up the national credit card like drunken sailors on shore leave. Contrary to liberal think, government cannot provide for all of the needs and wants of the citizenry. It creates a culture of dependency, such as yours, and it bankrupts government, as is underway.

Since small business owners ARE the corporation now (under sub-S tax laws), please substitute "the richest 1%" which you reference in 2/3 of your posts under dozens of names, with "small business owners" or "job creators." Under the current administration, these business men and women will soon be extinct as they are called upon to fund every mandate under the sun.

Don't forget gender-bender free love JohnEE, those silly Libs and their pro-Iraq military action rants, BEFORE they were against it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5p-qIq32m8

Silly Liberal JohnEE. TRY AGAIN, as you always say under 10 different names....

Republicans want more analysis when it comes to La Terre than they do when it comes to sending off Le Sang to war. If only they were so thorough each and every time, one missing meeting "I protest" at a time, one investigation after another. To counter, the Democrats want to move faster when it concerns La Terre than when it concerns Le Sang, hanging in the wind. According to a Pew Poll, the public is aware of the science and does not hold it in high esteem, AND STILL more support some type of curb emissions policy than those who do not. Not to mention that across the board this is not top priority for any party, even Democrats. Nice symbolic gesture, try something with teeth next time. Big teeth.

Don't forget gender-bender free love JohnEE, those silly Libs and their pro-Iraq military action rants, BEFORE they were against it:
Posted by: ThePartyofOWEbama | November 3, 2009 5:48 PM
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Yeah, the phony pre-Iraq war intelligence that the Repug/Neocon chickenhawks in Bushco presented to the Dems sealed the deal for Cheney's hunt for the non existent WMD's in Iraq.

Do you honestly believe that something as invasive as climate change legislation is not worth another 5 weeks to be sure the scientific data supports the political solution?

Posted by: heartburn | November 3, 2009 4:11 PM
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I realize that this may come as a surprise to you, but Democrats weren't elected just so they could roll over for minority party Republicans.

Contrary to liberal think, government cannot provide for all of the needs and wants of the citizenry. It creates a culture of dependency, such as yours, and it bankrupts government, as is underway.
Posted by: ThePartyofOWEbama | November 3, 2009 5:48 PM
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YES! All we need to do is give more tax cuts to Billionaires, Chevron and Exxon Mobil....that ALWAYS works!
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Why doesn't Obama get that?

Little Rubber JohnEE/Janet/Wanna Be An Idiot/XXX/Antacid/Former Republican ("Liar!).... When in doubt, blame Bush. You sound like Hopebama. Man up. You and your liberal celebrity/elites love to tie the hands of those gathering the intel (Miranda rights for terrorists, no loud music, have to reveal sources in court, etc..etc...), then you decry the results of the intel you get. Must be nice to have your cake and eat it too, cake eater JohnEE. Have mom bring your din din tonight so you can keep on postin.' Research your Daily Kos for your cut & paste response. Ding Ding Ding. Ding Dong.

Here's a little tid bit on AlGore

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/6491195/Al-Gore-could-become-worlds-first-carbon-billionaire.html

All you lib sheeple just follow ol AlGore, while you huddle peddle your bike, AlGore will count his billions.

I believe the term is SUCKERS

"So the EPA conducted a simplified analysis, drawing heavily on the study it had already made of the House bill and highlighting the parts that differed."

The full study has already been done. What doesn't the Grand Old Zombie Party get?

Why don't all the Republican senators go to John Galt's secret island?
Then we can all be happy.

Hey Django, I see that you support Republicans and their pro-business ways to the detriment of people. So I'm sure you're behind BP who, 4 years later, got fined $87 million dollars for not correcting safety hazards that caused an explosion and the deaths of 15 workers in 2005. They're only people, so what's the big deal. right? But an $87 million fine for arrogance - now THAT'S just plain wrong in your eyes.
Posted by: BC | November 3, 2009 1:05 PM
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BC, how the hell are ya. I have to do a Liz Cheney on u here, hoss. I can’t allow your phrase “to the detriment of people” to frame the argument. I don’t think that this is the best example that u could have picked. I worked in THIS refinery for 3 years. I worked on the Ultraformer Unit which is the feed unit for the Isomerization Unit. The Blowdown Drum on the Isomerization Unit overfilled with liquid aromatic hydrocarbons, with the resulting vapors initiating the subsequent explosion. I was not there in March 2005 when the explosion occurred, but I could have been there.

THE MANUFACTURE OF GASOLINE HAS CERTAIN INHERENT DANGERS. Always has, always will. The same can be said about riding in planes, trains, busses, boats, and cars. If u can’t accept the risk, then be prepared to walk to all of your intended destinations.

In Refinery World, if something does go wrong WITHOUT regard to the actual condition that caused the problem, there WILL BE accusations rightly or wrongly, fines, and lawsuits. The major oil companies have to accept these risks because there is always some risk even if it is comparable to walking into a McDonald’s and choking on a Big Mac. The standard fine is $10,000 per DAY that the cited operation is considered in violation. Often it is the state, even in Tx, that assesses the fine.

BC, perhaps u and other liberals know how to engineer out all risks. I don’t and neither do engineers on my level or unquestionably more capable than me. Probably the bigger potential risk with this Refinery is its age. It was built in the early 1920’s. BP has upgraded many areas but maybe they need to hire a bunch of liberals to insure that they have corrected everything. In HINDSIGHT, that Blowout Drum should have been replaced with a larger BO Drum AND a flare stack. With the benefit of Hindsight, I could have also had the Phillies at 4 wins and on to Disneyland as of last night.

IF ANYONE MOVED TO SHUTDOWN THIS REFINERY, THERE WOULD BE A NEAR RIOT IN TEXAS CITY WITH THE MOST VEHEMENT VOICE OF OPPOSITION BEING THE HOURLY WORKER THAT IS SIMPLY TRYING TO MAINTAIN A DECENT STANDARD OF LIVING FOR HIS FAMILY. He probably has several kids in high school or maybe one in college. He would typically have a base wage of $22.00 - $24.00 per hour for an annual wage of $49,900 a year. This prototypical worker however is taking and demanding all the overtime available and IS actually knocking down $125,000 a year with the overtime. He is a Union man and he is a democrat. HE WOULD CUT YOU WITH A SERRATED KNIFE IF YOU MADE ANY ATTEMPT TO TAKE DOWN HIS PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT. I’m just trying to break it down for u.

No one should die at work, but WE DO ACCEPT THE RISKS. After I left the BP Texas City Refinery, I taught high school math for 2 years in a suburban school district. I felt MORE at risk and threatened in that overrated suburban school district each and every day than I ever did in the BP Refinery. If they were hiring, I would go back to British Petroleum tomorrow and eat pizza with my Union-democrat friends that run the stinking refinery.

One minute after the accident I surely understood and British Petroleum surely understood, that there would be a significant fine to be paid. Yes, I think that the fine is excessive. That is not my phase of the business or my problem to resolve, then or now, but they will work something out.

It is one thing to fine a company for an industrial accident that no one would ever want to happen. Its’ another thing to drive hard for the destruction of that company or industry. This is Barbara Boxer, California Marxist, seeking to do exactly that in a manner not even related to this accident that would have required some level of incredible foresight to have prevented. Our lives do have risks. No democrat-styled socialist legislation will ever change that fact.

Django, don't you know that Obama and Nancy Pelosi are going to GIVE everybody little green jobs? And the earth will once again be safe from humans. Nobody will ever get hurt or die doing a green job, no never. BECAUSE THERE WON'T BE AN ECONOMY LEFT TO SUPPORT ANY JOBS BY THE TIME THESE MARXISTS ARE DONE.

You and your liberal celebrity/elites love to tie the hands of those gathering the intel (Miranda rights for terrorists, no loud music, have to reveal sources in court, etc..etc...), then you decry the results of the intel you get.
Posted by: ThePartyofOWEBama | November 3, 2009 7:30 PM
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Translation:

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
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Gary, it's an utopian's dream, making the Earth safe for some damn frog perfectly contented to just otherwise live his life in seclusion. In my 2 miserable years in High School World, I QUICKLY recognized that education is the one commodity that NO ONE wants.

All you lib sheeple just follow ol AlGore, while you huddle peddle your bike, AlGore will count his billions.I believe the term is SUCKERS

Posted by: Terry | November 3, 2009 7:54 PM
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Teabaggy,
So you've got a problem with capitalism? Are you one of those pinko commies or something?

Posted by: Django - N Exile In/Around the 30th Parallel | November 3, 2009 9:33 PM
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Pure baloney, dude. BP was fined because, 4 years later, they haven't fixed the problems that caused the explosion in the first place AND OSHA has found that they have dozens of MORE violations on top of the original ones. BP doesn't care one iota for you or your fellow Texans' health and safety - all they care about is their bottom line. You are nothing more than a commodity to them, to be used in the process of making gas and chemicals. Once they consider you all used up, you will be discarded into the trash barrel with no second thought.
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THAT'S the kind of company you and your Republican enablers are defending.

BC,

It is not "gas and chemicals". The correct terminology is: Refined Petroleum Products. U could also go with: Aromatics, Olefins, Motor Fuels, and Middle Distillates.

Texas Grade A Naphthenic Lube Oil - $15,995 per quart, retail, no discounts for Liberals. u need to walk.

Trickled On John E,

Just crooked capitalism. He makes Bernie Madeoff look like a choir boy.

Teabaggy,

You know all about crooked capitalism. Afterall, you're always on here pushing bogus anti global warming studies, produced by scientists who are bought and paid for by right wing groups and big oil.

BC and fellow Libs,

BC, I stayed up all night playing my ’57 Strat re-issue. It’s a type of thing where when u pick it up, there is no putting it down. All night long, as it were. Trying to keep “Perfidia”, a Spanish classic locked in the memory file.

I also took a run at “What A Difference A Day Makes”. Love those 3rds that I can use in the intro. To my unexpected bemusement, I noticed that “What A Difference A Day Makes” has Spanish lyrics, beautiful Spanish lyrics, and even a Spanish title ~ “Cuando Vuelva a Tu Lado”. I need to try it out on Salma Hayek Lite ~ a fair chance that she may have never heard this song. My next thought was: Wish I could sing, Wish I could speak decent Spanish, Wish I could sing in Spanish. Then, I realized: Damn, I sound like a damn Liberal, “WISHING” for a lot of damn things that aren’t.

But here is something that you and your fellow Liberals can do. Something, that will allow u to take a firm stance against all industrial accidents, past, present, and future. STOP using the evil refined hydrocarbon products. Park that car. Junk that truck. U could donate them to your favorite charity, maybe. Dry dock that boat. Stay off busses, planes, and trains. Get a skateboard. Get a sail mast. Walk. Why can’t Liberals just do that???

U ladies in Utopia World need to pack away the perfume. Every one that I ever bought for a very pretty Latina had more than enough “aromatics” to create the desired mood and effect. Those “aromatics” came through a Udex Unit in a stinking refinery. Even the white cooking oil that u sop YOUR “baloney” in, came through a 3,000 psig Lube Hydrotreater located in a stinking refinery. Just giving u the real deal, here.

Liberals, U can end this madness. Just walk away. Literally. Just walk. U can start today? This is your moment. Show those evil Industrialists who is in charge. Power to the proletariat. My ?s are all rhetorical. Have a nice damn day.

Global climate warming change is killing us all

Trickled On JOhn E,

AlGore making all his money on phoney science that the gov't will create unneeded regulations and Fat Albert will reap his billion.

After a careful study of the environmental regions and sub cultures of Earth, I have found that average temperatures change over time... Do I get an award?