Sarah Palin, Hillary Clinton: Presidential?: The Swamp
The Swamp
Chicago Tribune
Posted November 16, 2009 2:00 PM
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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arriving at a meeting between President Barack Obama and Chinese President Hu Jintao at the Diaoyutai state guest house in Beijing. (Photo by Elizabeth Dalziela / AFP / Getty Images)

The Swamp

by Mark Silva

Sarah Palin has a book, Going Rogue.

Hillary Clinton has a book, It Takes a Village.

But on the eve of the release of Palin's memoirs, a day in which Palin is appearing on The Oprah Winfrey Show and Clinton is traveling through China as secretary of state, Palin does not have what it takes to be president, most surveyed say.

But Clinton does.

Just 28 percent of those surveyed by the post-Lou Dobbs CNN and Opinion Research Corp. say Palin, the former governor of Alaska, is qualified to serve as president -- and 70 percent say she is not.

Speculation about Palin's potential interest in the 2012 Republican nomination, following her run at the White House with John McCain in 2008, has been spurred by the publication of a memoir filled with regrets about the conduct of McCain-Palin.

At the same time, only 50 percent of those surveyed see Vice President Joe Biden -- "can I call you Joe?'' Palin asked of him during their 2008 running mates' debate -- as qualified to serve as president. And 48 percent say he is not. Which could help explain that 71-vehicle motorcade that President Barack Obama rode into Beijing today.

(Obama seriously considered Clinton as a running mate, his campaign manager has told us -- see the book mentioned below -- but Obama worried about Bill Clinton.)

Yet Clinton, who was favored to win the Democratic nomination for president last year until someone from Chicago had the "audacity'' to hope -- and "The Audacity to Win,'' as campaign manager David Plouffe has entitled his own book -- is viewed by two-thirds of those surveyed as qualified to be president. The former first lady has the confidence of 67 percent of those surveyed, with 32 percent saying no.

Yet Clinton says she has no interest in running again.

As for the rest of the potential 2012 GOP pack, Palin may have some catching up to do with former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who won the GOP's Iowa caucuses last year -- and who, it turns out, will also be making his own appearance in Grand Rapids this week as Palin launches her book-tour there. Forty-three percent of those surveyed say Huckabee is qualified to serve as president.

And 47 percent say Mitt Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts who also sought his party's nomination in 2008, is qualified.

The Nov. 13-15 survey of 1,014 adults, including 928 registered voters, carries a possible margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

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So Hans you were saying?? Ba haaaahahaaaaaa!!!11


Sarah and Hill,Presidential?

O my yes indeedy yabetcha.


I can hardly wait to see either debate Barack on any issue in 2012.


That's gonna be rich. Yabetcha.


Hillary is a street fighter who actually knows what she's talking about.


And Crazy Sarah? Her support comes from pudgy middle aged white Republican (Teabaggers) guys who can't find dates. These clowns assume every right wing hottie who's in the news is brilliant while totally dismissing women who have made it merely on their intellect and accomplishments.



It is especially interesting that Joe Biden, who was a senator for over 30 years and now VP for nearly a year that about half said he is not qualified to be prez. I find that even more interesting and newsworthy than 70 percent saying Palin is not qualified to be VP. Course, Palin has more qualificatiions to be prez than the inexperienced dingbat currently residing in the White House.


The true believers on the Right are such total simpletons that they fall for the tacky, superficial facsimiles they are offered as candidates every single time (Palin, Romney, Huckabee etc). They take these shoddy knock-offs and parade them about as though they're the genuine article.


But Barack Obama is so much more than his skin color, while Michael Steele is simply a clown who everytime he opens his mouth does more good for Democrats than Republicans; Hillary Clinton is so much more than her femaleness, while Sarah Palin simply is.....a joke.


The Right gets it wrong again because tokenism and lies will always do that to you.



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Course, Palin has more qualificatiions to be prez than the inexperienced dingbat currently residing in the White House.

Posted by: John D, still right, as usual | November 16, 2009 2:18 PM
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Yeah.....because she quit half way through her first term in office. In the minds of the right wing lunatic fringe mouth-breathers like you, that makes her a stellar leader.


Try again, Lil' Johnny 40+ YearOldVirgin...



Palin has more qualificatiions to be prez than the inexperienced dingbat currently residing in the White House.
Posted by: John D, still lying and incorrect, as usual.
Oh really?? Why don't you name a few. Enlight us all about dimwit Palin abruptly quitting as governor of Alaska.
The only people this lady appeals to are pudgy and out of condition middle aged Republican males who drool and slobber all overthemselves over her beacuse they have nothing else constructive to do. She's eye candy to them. Other than that, she's completely...empty and clueless, like her followers. Oh you betcha.


Hey scottie, I don't recall saying that Palin would make a good President or candidate. I happen to agree with her that libs are morally bankrupt, have no clue about forming an effective public policty and whose only purpose is to take from the productive members of society and give to the lazy and ignorant.

At least Palin wouldn't be kow towing to every two bit dictator, 3rd world thug and muslim extremist.

For someone so inconsequential, you and your fellow bozo apologists sure spend a lot of time attacking Palin. I guess it is to distract from the fact that the fool you support has done more to trash the economy, increase unemployment, pay off corrupt state politicians and unions than Bush did in eight years. Must be all those years as a successful community agitator. Tell me again how many jobs Obozo's job center created? Oh that's right, even with free government money he couldn't accomplish squat. That's presidential experience, you betcha.


This is idiotic. Why even bother "reporting" this crap as if it means anything.

Personality polls out of election cycles mean absolutely ZERO. Actual campaigning and voting itself completely change these numbers when it counts.

The numbers you gave us are nothing more than the half-second visceral reaction people get when thinking about an individual. All that changes when votes are actually cast.

Stop publishing this B.S.


So, the media portrays Palin as an unsophisticated candidate who cannot string a sentence together, yet Joe Biden is a mental giant?
Wake up and smell the coffee people, don't believe everything you read, especially in today's liberal newspapers.


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I happen to agree with her that libs are morally bankrupt, have no clue about forming an effective public policty and whose only purpose is to take from the productive members of society and give to the lazy and
Posted by: Hans | November 16, 2009 3:12 PM
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So I guess this also means that you're claiming that the last eight years of Bushco Republican rule was a smashing success? Who's lazy and ignorant again?


Ha Ha Ha!
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Bush 2, Reagan and Kennedy were all unqualified too. I never overestimate the common sense of my fellow Americans.


Poll shows 70% think Palin is unqualified....

this means that 30% of our population are absolute idiots and have no idea what it takes to be qualified to be president?

btw- I'm a republican.


I saw the interview with Oprah- it was astounding. As interviews go, she has no substantive answers for any of the questions. A real light weight with about 12 memorized, sugarcoated answers to the questions. It is sad that American media thinks so little of the electorate and today's women as to parade this person in front of us.


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yet Joe Biden is a mental giant?Wake up and smell the coffee people, don't believe everything you read, especially in today's liberal newspapers.

Posted by: Harley Brooks | November 16, 2009 3:26 PM
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Yeah, because an occasional gaffe by Biden means he's as dumb as Palin?


That damn "librul media" - which is everything to the left of Rush and Fake News Channel! Why do they always have to ruin our GOPer memes with big fancy words and facts and stuff?!?!


Facts?!?!


Wingnuts don't need no stinkin' facts!



Seventy per cent of those polled believe that Sarah Palin is not qualified to be President is not surprising. Until John McCain selected her Palin was an obscure Governor of Alaska that had not been in office a full two years. And Palin's resignation of the Governorship probably hurt her greatly. Most Americans do not like a quitter.

The question is what qualifications does an individual have to have to be President? Hillary Clinton had been "First Lady" and a U.S. Senator from New York. But Joe Biden had been in Congress for over 30 years. Bill Clinton had been Governor of Arkansas for a numbe rof years and was considered a new face of the Democratic Party. And Obama had some experience as a State Senator and less than four years as a U.S. Senator. On the Republican side Bush the Younger had been Governor for 6 years. His father Bush the Elder had been VP for 8 years, a Texas Congressmen and held some high level Federal Offices including Head of the CIA. And Ronald Reagan had been Governor of California for 8 years. Romney, Huckabee and Pawenty are probably still unknown to a majority of the American public and that probably explains their poll numbers.

So what are the best qualifications one must have to be President? I believe it is the candidate that a majority of the American Public likes and trusts the most that usually get elected. In 2008 the American Voters liked and
preferred Barack Obama over John McCain just as in 2000 and 2004 they liked George W Bush over Al Gore and John Kerry.


Why are you liberals so concerned about Palin?

janet: typical name-calling liberal. Bar'aq essentially quit halfway through his first term.

Laura K: Bar'aq is so much more than his skin color.

So much more what?


The GOP Party of No and Fear are unable to govern and when one does try to Govern and accomplish things for the American people like healthcare, raising the minimum wage or continuing unemployment benefits, they continue to "huff and puff" and spew fear in the air in hopes that people will continue to stay depressed and afraid thereby immobilizing and paralyzing them to do anything at all. Now the GOP are huffing and puffing about the Obama Decesion of having the terrorists being tried in open court in New York. Of course, we should bring these men to Justice, this should have been done a long time ago. GOP are just mad and angry that they could not accomplish this very basic task of holding these terrorists accountable for their acts! I would not even be surprised if Team Obama finds Bin Laden, something Bush & Co. were also incapable of doing. Would this anger the GOP also? Probably!

As far as Obama bowing to the Japanese the Bible teaches us in Matthew 20:26 "It is not this way among you, but whoever wishes to become great among you shall be your servant."


The right loves Sarah Palin because she exemplifies the philosophy of the right. Fail and quit to make more money. The right is not about a job well done but bailouts, corporate welfare and anything for the money, even if it means turning your back on serving your constituents.


Would not vote for Palin.
Will not vote for Obama.
Waiting for Damien Thorn
which is how the liberals view all male republican candidates...


We really needed a poll to tell us this?? She's been telling us this since the first time she opened her mouth!


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Why are you liberals so concerned about Palin?janet: typical name-calling liberal. Bar'aq essentially quit halfway through his first term
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Really? So you're actually dumb enough to think that Obama is going to quit half way through his first term as President? Hahaha!


And you really think that Obama doesn't get called names by frustrated Wingnuts everyday?


You must be pretty sheltered. The only thing the Repug minions have against Obama IS name calling. That's what those goofy Teabagger rallies are all about.
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At least Palin has some real world executive experience, unlike the current empty suit who has zero.


Why is it that people who never did anything with their lives throw stones at SarahP.
I am not a great fan of hers, but have some class.

What a bunch of sore winners.


Why do news media continue to cover Palin? She is a nobody with nothing to say. When she resigned prematurely as governor, she became a nobody. Reviews of her book demonstrate that she has nothing to to say. Why would Oprah waste an hour of boradcast time, and why would the Trib think that that was newsworthy?


@ savannahbigcat,
Palin quit her job to become a blogger on Facebook, Obama quit his job because he was elected President.


Are you really that dumb?



Sarah Palin is an idiot and Hillary is a hothead. No way either should be considered.


Who the heck are the 30%?


How about we worry about focusing on this administration fixing the problems of the last one before we start thinking about another election 3 years from now? Seriously--the people of this nation were sick and tired of hearing about the election by the time it already came around--coverage started wall-to-wall over a year and a half earlier.

Seriously--focus on the problems we need to fix now rather than who potentially thinks they could do the job that's already well-in-hand.


Chicago Logic:

Let's see - Sarah Palin who was a mayor (chief executive of a city); and, a governor (chief executive of the State of Alaska) is NOT qualified to be President...

BUT: Sheik Barrack Obama, who has never been the chief executive or chief administrative officer of anything, Is qualified to be President???

That's why you keep ending up with idiots like Daley, Jr. running Chicago!!


I'm guessing this is the same 28% that gave Bush a favorable rating on his way out the door. Wingnuts till death.

roundlaketom - real world executive experience? BAAAHAHAHAHA!!!! Do you mean Govenor of the least populated state in the union? You mean the job she quit? HAHA!!!!!!


It is especially interesting that Joe Biden, who was a senator for over 30 years and now VP for nearly a year that about half said he is not qualified to be prez. I find that even more interesting and newsworthy than 70 percent saying Palin is not qualified to be VP. Course, Palin has more qualificatiions to be prez than the inexperienced dingbat currently residing in the White House.

Posted by: John D, still right, as usual | November 16, 2009 2:18 PM

Why can't we have dingbats in the White House? We have John D. on this forum.


Posted by: RonDog1 | November 16, 2009 5:11 PM

So your condition of being the president is the candidate should have "executive experience"? In that case how about someone like Bernie Madoff or any one of the CEO's in charge of the banks that went belly-up? Oh, George W. had "executive experience" and he lost a surplus that Clinton left the American people and left his successor with a huge deficit, two wars to clean up, and pick-your-financial-disaster. He did a real good job with his "executive experience".


Finally, something that restores my faith in the American public! That less than 30% see Palin the idiot as qualified to be President is a relief; however, I am appalled that more than 1/4 of those surveyed see her as qualified. Just how dumb do you have to be for those folks to consider you "unqualified"??


How smart does a President need be? We've had four consecutive Presidents out of the Ivy League and yet not one of them has provided a long term blueprint to stem the decline-hell, the elimination- of America's middle class.

The ability to govern isn't any more correlated to a Mensa test than Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis's near perfect SAT score leading to wins on the gridiron.

Obama is locked far inside the anti-intellectual box of collectivism that's led cities like Chicago and a host of States such as Illinois to the brink of fiscal disaster, chronic joblessness, failing educational institutions and lawlessness.

So yes, when a plain spoken, small town woman talks about common sense solutions and can compare booming Alaska to the crumbling 48-regardless if the Alaska Miracle was her doing or not-she looks pretty darn good compared to the Yale grads who can't get out of their own way.


Wingnut Logic:


Let's see - Sarah Palin who was a failed mayor (chief executive of a city); and, a failed governor (chief executive of the State of Alaska) and is NOT qualified to be President...


BUT:Barack Obama, who has never been the chief executive or chief administrative officer of anything ran a two year long campaign and was elected president by the American people.


That's why you keep ending up with idiots like Tom Delay, Dick Armey, Karl Rove, George Bush and Dick Cheney. running Texas!!



I agree, she's not ready. However, she's no less qualified than the bowing apologist we have posing as a president!


But there is something very peculiar with respect to how you Socialists just can’t seem to get enough of her in promoting your politics of destruction two + years out.


Sarah was chosen after McCain got a good look at the state of the country after 8 years under Bush, and needed a dingbat to help him lose the election.


DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE BARACK OBAMA IS QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT???????

WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!


Well, jack & coke, Texas ain't looking for any Land Of Lincoln or Great Lakes State license plates. Texas ain't broke and Texas ain't begging. Most importantly, Texans run Texas, not some totally incompetent cardboard Elitist incapable of making a difficult decision. Something, you Kool-aid drinkers would never understand.


Wait three years and 90% will agree that our current president was never qualified either!


Neither is Obama - take a poll and you will see. Completely useful man.


Palin was selected by McCain because he thought he could get the female vote after Obama didn't select Clinton. That "logic" was obviously flawed as female voters are more intelligent than McCain thought. Someone needs to let Palin in on the facts (she was a pawn) and McCain lost.


Mel, you're the one who was sleeping.


American voters made that decision last November.


A commanding majority answered your question YES.


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Posted by: Django - N Exile In/Around the 30th Parallel | November 16, 2009 6:28 PM
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Try again, Tex the Rodeo Clown,


Since elitist means being well educated then you're right, the Dems have that market cornered. And you Wingnut goobers have got the market cornered on dry drunk imbeciles who think with their gut.
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http://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/Misc/bush-drunk.jpg


"Today, Texas is on the brink, ranking last or near last in almost every category, from education to care for children and women, protecting our environment to providing access to capital to Texas' businesses. Here is the reality behind the rhetoric. 5.83 million Texans do not have health insurance—one in four—making Texas the least insured state in the nation. Not a single Texas city even reaches the national average in citizens with health insurance. From 2000 to 2007, Texas families saw their health insurance premiums soar 86.8 percent—nearly six times more than their median earnings increased," Senator Shapleigh said. 'Twenty-nine cents of every private pay health dollar now goes for denial management and administration—in other words, Texans are paying more for less health care. That's the reality. Now, what are lawmakers going to do about it?"
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http://shapleigh.org/news/2716-senator-shapleigh-to-release-texas-on-the-brink-how-texas-ranks-among-the-50-states-discuss-state-of-texas-health-care
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We needed to conduct a poll? Really?


John McCain lost a great deal of integrity when he choose Palin as his running mate. If you're gonna pick a conservative, at least pick a competent one.


Most notable is that women are far more likely than men to say they dislike Palin and view her as unqualified to be President. She cannot win the job losing women as badly as she is now./

http://www.political-buzz.com/


WOW, do the libs crawl out from under their rock when the media reports about Palin. They can't handle that their President is being challenged and that she is liked by many people. But instead of debating back on the issues, they lob insults.


Palin is becoming more and more like Bin-Laden every single day.


From her cave in Alaska, Palin releases a statement on FaceBook every couple of months condeming Obama and encouraging her fellow Al-Qaeda members....I mean right wing Teabaggers.....to fight on.....for whatever it is they're screaming about today.



Palin's as dumb as a bag of rocks, and yet we still have the 20% that makes up what's left of todays Republican base who think she's a genius. Talk about being left behind in the intelligence arena....


Shocking, isn't it?......not.



What is twice as smart as a Pagent Walker from Wasilla...?
A 1 slice Toaster....unplugged!
She doesn't know the difference between a NEWS paper and a TABLOID, or, A journalist and a Commentator OR a newswriter and a Editorial Columnist....and whats more neither do those who think she has a gram of smarts.


Palin, how about getting a real job because your celebrity status will start to fade soon. Please enjoy because we all know Americans have short memories and you will finally become a distant memory. Please go away!


LIBERALS are the most intolerant hateful people I can imagine. Constantly making fun of peoples background: youbetcha, name calling, always interjecting race, calling people racists who don't agree with you.

So, I looked it up and sure enough you liberals ARE the most hateful!
"Now comes fascinating statistical evidence that the Left is indeed more hateful than the Right. Syracuse University professor Arthur Brooks writes in the WSJ today about annual surveys that shed light on just how unhinged liberals really are:"
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/17/the-statistical-proof-of-liberal-intolerance/


And over a year before, this same newspaper ran a poll that said over 70% of people asked said that Barack Obama would be the greatest President this country ever had!

Speaking of which, how are the 70% of you back then liking that "Hope and Change" these days, with all the jobless numbers, potential higher taxes coming and possible government control of your very lives through controlled health care?

How you all like that "Hope and Change" now?

Or are you just hoping you'll still have change left over after you've been fleeced?


Rightwingers, don't get us wrong.

Don't. Don't get us wrong.


We really, truly want Sarah Palin to be your nominee for Prez in 2012.


'Tis a consummation devoutly to be wish'd......

Bring it on, rightwingers.


Bring. It. On.


It blows my mind how Sarah gets the left so fired up! I mean read the comments and the viscous attacks against anyone who disagrees. Hilarious. Ummmm...I'm not middle age, unmarried, pudgy or lonely but I like Sarah. I don't want her to be President, either. Although, its hard to imagine she could do worse than the current crew.


John E. @ 7:24 p.m.,


“Now, what are lawmakers going to do about it?"


“Hopefully”, NOT a damn thing. That would certainly be the preferred choice.


We do not need 1,990 damn pages of Crap designed to punish the doctor AND the patient. These Elitist democrat styled socialist schemes that EXCLUDES themselves, WILL NOT solve anything. Clearly, No One intends for them to. If U want to tax yourself into oblivion while u wait for someone to give a damn about your medical condition, then by all means. If u are not sick, this load of Crap will make u sick.


Texas Grade A Naphthenic Lube Oils ~ $17,995 per quart. No discount for the socialist Elitists. Elitists are self-lubricating.


Why are so many people against Pailin?

She seems more sincere than Obama, in her beliefs.

The one thing I don't like about EITHER one of them is this. They both have spouses who seem to like meddeling in their official business. The spouses of elected officials should MIND THEIR OWN DAMNED BUSINESS AND STAY OUT OF THE OFFICIAL SIDE OF THINGS!

I would rather vote for ME than for either of them. Want a tax break? Vote for ME. Want better government services? Vote for ME. Want your mail delivered on time every day? Vote for ME. Want your trash collected, without any of it falling on the ground in front of your house? Vote for ME. Want to keep your kids from ending up in gangs? Vote for ME.

Vote for ME, and have a GREAT DAY!


Well, let's see...Obama had all of what - THREE months (when the campaign started) of experience as a JUNIOR Senator. And Palin is Unqualified?


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I looked it up and sure enough you liberals ARE the most hateful! "Now comes fascinating statistical evidence that the Left is indeed more hateful than the Right. Syracuse University professor Arthur Brooks writes in the WSJ today about annual surveys that shed light on just how unhinged liberals really are:"

Posted by: Free to Watch Whatever I Want | November 16, 2009 8:53 PM
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Wow Teresa, that's some "excellent" research you've got there.....NOT!


Michelle Malkin?


HaHaHa!


Michelle freaking Malkin?!?!


HaHaHaHaHa!!!!!


I love it when the thug Wingnuts try playing the victim card...



Django, don't you know that THIS BILL IS DIFFERENT. This time the democrats aren't lying, this time they are transparent, this time they are telling the truth about it. Let's see:

Better Medical Care, no wait they aren't saying that

Not cover illegals. And they will enforce the law just like they enforce the border and the law against hiring illegals and identity theft, etc.
No Penalties, wait yes there are.
No Abortions, wanna bet?

No Jail time, Ah but if this is part of the tax system and IRS enforces it. Let's see, they put you in jail for tax evasion...

But other than that, I'm sure that there is nothing else in the 1990 pages to worry about...

Oh, I forgot higher taxes, and then there is the fact that government agencies ALWAYS get bigger and change the rules.

But to put blind TRUST in government run by corrupt politicians is a wise way to live, don't you think?


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Hopefully”, NOT a damn thing. That would certainly be the preferred
Posted by: Django - N Exile In/Around the 30th Parallel | November 16, 2009 9:16 PM
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Yeah Tex,


That's exactly what I'd expect from you low IQ Texas goobers.


Nothing......no clue, none, zero, zip, nada.



potential higher taxes coming and possible government control of your very lives through controlled health care?

Posted by: CGull | November 16, 2009 8:56 PM

Two key words ''Potential'' and ''Possible'' You know what they mean right? Like, hasnt happened yet and ',Might'' not? Or ''Might''
LOL!!!! Moron!


This poll is funny! If she was a man, 70% would think she was qualified. After all, look who the country elected last year, who in reality had no executive experience.


Just proves that at least 28% of Americans are total morons.


Note that liberals are sticking to the story which is about Palin, while conservatives know nothing except to bash all liberals. If Rush and Sean died tomorrow, conservatives would not even know what to say.


While Obama is wrecking this country for generations, the Liberal dolts are still worried about attacking a female politician who lost the election - brilliant cover-up.

By the way, how does one get to call onself "progressive"? Supporting the killing of unborn babies, giving away free stuff to encourage no societal incentive to work, and the marching for the right to marry the guy whose rear end you anally rape is now defined as "progressive"?


Lets see the poll covered 1000 people and only 900 voters,the US population is over 300 million....HUMMMM !! I think you missed a few voters.


Palin is more qualified to be in office than the current destructive, wasteful team that is currently in there.

Also, with the tribune reporting this article, I have to believe there is no validity to these numbers or the story since the tribune is SO FAR left , it does not know what true reporting or journalism is anymore.


Palin is suffering the backlash of us having a sitting president with zero experience, and it's showing. Of course, Sarah can say she has executive experience, and has actually instituted reform and change, Barry can boast of his experience voting "present."

Funny that the party of victim politics is bashing one of their protected groups so hard. And did one of you lefties actually have the audacity to complain about Bush and deficits. The irony is thick


hans, another teabagger: (snip)
Hey scottie, I don't recall saying that Palin would make a good President or candidate. I happen to agree with her that libs are morally bankrupt, have no clue about forming an effective public policty and whose only purpose is to take from the productive members of society and give to the lazy and ignorant.

At least Palin wouldn't be kow towing to every two bit dictator, 3rd world thug and muslim extremist. (end snip)

The *libs* are morally bankrupt, according to Srah The Quitter and you and the GOP is the party of God ? Riddle me this, riddler:
torture of prisoners..waterboarding..child prostitutes compliments of Blackwater..billions stolen or squandered..soldiers electrocuted due to shoddy work..wars started based upon lies..elections stolen..and lets not forget the GOP and their *pro-life* platform while they provide insurance coverage for..abortions ? Tell me it isn't true. Now which party is morally bankrupt ?



If you will be kind enough to allow me, I would like to propose a toast:
Here's to Sarah Palin; may she never - EVER - go away.

I am going to go out on a limb here: No woman since Eleanor Roosevelt has done more to further the cause of progressive politics in the United States of America than our Sarah.

Don'cha just love her? I sure do!

http://www.tomdegan.blogspot.com

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY


DEBATE PALIN??? All Obama( she would have to debate ANOTHER REPUBLICAN FIRST!) or ANY OTHER candidate or nominee would have to say is..." ER, Mrs. Palin QUIT HER POST as GOV....."
but they will quickly add,
" ,,,however Mrs. Palin, the news hungry, tap dancing vaudeville act, CAN shimmy to the tune of KA-CHING!

Sarah Palin/Fabio 2012!!!!!


Free to Watch Whatever I Want @ 8:53 p.m. and 11:02 p.m.,


I am in total agreement with you that Liberals can be incredibly intolerant, mean-spirited, and hateful. Who goes around hating other people's kids? And this is the party of tolerance and diversity. I can only guess that their drive to crush free-thought and control every aspect of our little lives just so overwhelms them. It does not have to be that way.


There is NO point in me getting into any kind of protracted back and forth yak-yak with John E. Clearly the Koolaid has already over-taken him. I am, again, in total agreement with the points you u laid out at 11:02 p.m. New born cats eventually open their eyes. democrats have the remarkable ability to not ever see a damn thing. Amazing. A nice but probably overwhelming start, for them, would be to simply try to understand human nature.


Disgusted @ 1:51 a.m.
Guitar Hours ~ Django kind of hours. Disgusted@1:51 a.m., liberals, like John E., are always on to some different bone of contention. Liberals rant and rave just like anyone else, off subject to the Swamp article at hand. Your comrade has some kind of mental derangement issue with Texas, which is fine, but like everything else, we see / don’t see what apparently we choose to see / not see.


One thing about it though, when Texas goes belly up, EVERYONE HERE needs to know that it is ALL OVER. May the Chinese, or whomever your new owners are, be kind and merciful.


Django the teabagger-dude:


We do not need 1,990 damn pages of Crap designed to punish the doctor AND the patient. These Elitist democrat styled socialist schemes that EXCLUDES themselves, WILL NOT solve anything. Clearly, No One intends for them to. If U want to tax yourself into oblivion while u wait for someone to give a damn about your medical condition, then by all means. If u are not sick, this load of Crap will make u sick.

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I am aware that the insurance
force has " instructed" their employees to speak out and blog against healthcare reform. I personally know of one employed through United who does this and whenever I pose a question, he either clams up or changes the topic onto something related to Obama. I suspect that you are one of these employees who got their orders and do you want to know why I suspect this ?
Your blogs are empty vessels wrapped in emotionally charged rhetoric. I understand you have to eat, though but please answer me this:

what do you think should be done about the multitudes of uninsured and without healthcare access Americans?
Should America adopt a
" survival of the fittest " policy and ignore the suffering of a lot of people, in favor of corporate earnings?



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