ACORN clears self, critic cries foul

Another bull crap "breaking story" from the Right Wing noise machine gets debunked....I'm Shocked!.....not

I knew the rights anti ACORN nonsense wasn't holding water a few weeks after it happened. The punk kid that was doing the video taping was trying to pass himself off to ACORN as a US Senator - all of which is the subject of a law suit right now.

Here's some more info on the company Obama keeps. Absolutely revolting and twisted.
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http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/07/fistgate-barack-obamas-safe-schools-czars-2000-conference-promoted-fisting-to-14-year-olds/#more-41962

If only we had known sooner that all the problems in our country were caused by the all powerfull ACORN!

Look at the power this massive criminal conmspiracy has!

They are solely at faulty for the banking meltdown. The banks and Wall Street were powerless against them! They have contrrolled every election through massive vote fraud. They destroyed New Orleans. The hookers David Vitter used? Supplied by ACORN. ACORN outed Valerie Plame. ACORN has Saddam's WMD's and they're going to supply them to Iran. Who was on the grassy knoll? ACORN.

Who let the dogs out? ACORN. Who took the last cookie from the cookie jar? You guessed it. ACORN!

They're everywhere! Be afraid! your neighbors are ACORN, your relatives are ACORN, the mailman is ACORN. Trust no one!

Ahhhh but of course!
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http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/07/the-complete-acorn-whitewash-report-nothing-to-see-here-folks-move-along-we-have-to-pass-obamacare/#idc-ctools
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Harshbarger's conclusion was that no criminal activity resulted from the sting because they didn't really import 14 year old girls and Hannah didn't really prostitute herself. By the way, he made essentially that argument before he was even appointed as an analyst on Fox 25 Boston.
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I'm sure his membership in Americans For Progress didn't affect his judgement.
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It turns out radical Socialists don't have values, morals, principles, ethics, a lick of honesty, and few believe in God.
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BE PROUD LOONY LIBS, BE PROUD!!!!!

All parodies aside, this knucklehead thinks he's funny?

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If only we had known sooner that all the problems in our country were caused by the all powerfull ACORN!

Look at the power this massive criminal conmspiracy has!

They are solely at faulty for the banking meltdown. The banks and Wall Street were powerless against them! They have contrrolled every election through massive vote fraud. They destroyed New Orleans. The hookers David Vitter used? Supplied by ACORN. ACORN outed Valerie Plame. ACORN has Saddam's WMD's and they're going to supply them to Iran. Who was on the grassy knoll? ACORN.

Who let the dogs out? ACORN. Who took the last cookie from the cookie jar? You guessed it. ACORN!

They're everywhere! Be afraid! your neighbors are ACORN, your relatives are ACORN, the mailman is ACORN. Trust no one!

Posted by: Faux News - We Distort, You Lap It Up | December 7, 2009 3:21 PM

*********************************** Comedy can be the cause of laughter or in this case, the cause of wincing at the ignorance of others.

Did you get paid to write that stuff? My dead uncle needs to register to vote Democrat, can you help him out?

More lunacy from the Left:

I knew the rights anti ACORN nonsense wasn't holding water a few weeks after it happened. The punk kid that was doing the video taping was trying to pass himself off to ACORN as a US Senator - all of which is the subject of a law suit right now.

Posted by: Jilly | December 7, 2009 3:13 PM

Yo, Jilly, when exactly did the kid try to pass himself off as a U.S. senator?

Anyway, to use a headline Silva used the other day:

ACORN clears itself: What a joke!

The Loony Left and ACORN: What a joke!

The Mainstream media and ACORN: What a joke!

The Obama administration and ACORN: What a joke!

It would seem that the libs here over looked one line that just about says all that needs to be said. And that line is:

"ACORN has investigated itself and found that its employees broke no laws"

Do you see that libs. Words 2 & 3 jumped but, I bet its over most libs heads. Seeing how they are just 1 in 5.

Scott Harshbarger is a very honest guy, was a great DA and Attorney General and was brought in as a 3rd party investigator. This was not an ACORN report.

The results confirm what I always thought. The ACORN people were punked by O'Keefe/Giles and like the shows "Punked" "Jackass" and "Candid Camera" they played off people's natural tendency to try and be helpful even when the situation or setup is absurd. Those TV shows lived off secretaries and clerks trying to accommodate the outrageous requests of the actors. And like those shows, O'Keefe/Giles were able to selectively edit multiple attempts to solicit bad employee responses into a few highlights that portrayed the ACORN workers in the worst light.

It turns out radical Socialists don't have values, morals, principles, ethics, a lick of honesty, and few believe in God.BE PROUD LOONY LIBS, BE PROUD!!!!!

Posted by: Bobby Mobbie | December 7, 2009 3:32 PM
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Teresa,
Wrong again. The right wing punk kid tried to pass himself off as a US Senator and there are multiple lawsuits pending against him for doing so. They also reported him to the Police.

It's no wonder ACORN tried to help that tool, he misrepresented himself.

It turns out radical that these radical right wing fascists don't have values, morals, principles, ethics, a lick of honesty, and all of them are phony 'family values' Republicans too. BE PROUD LOSER WINGNUTS, BE PROUD!!!!!
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http://www.mediaite.com/online/acorn-worker-from-pimp-video-reported-incident-to-police/

The emails at the heart of SwiftHack were obtained from the Climatic Research Unit of a British university, and the basic conclusions of that university's work have been independently corroborated by three sets of American and Japanese researchers. So these phony Republican "complaints" amount to what they usually do - crap
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http://enviroknow.com/2009/11/25/climategate-the-swifthack-scandal-what-you-need-to-know/
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Al-Queda clears itself of any wrong doing in Sept. 11 attacks.

An internal investigation headed by Osama Bib Laden has exonerated Al-Queda of any wrong doing. "We are an organization that promotes peace through our shared religious experiences, " said Bin Laden.

George W. Bush cleared himself today of ignoring pre Sept.11 warnings of a pending attack on America.

An internal investigation headed by Dick Cheney has exonerated George W. Bush of any wrong doing. "We are a peaceful organization that takes our religious beliefs and tries to ram them down other peoples throats, " said spokesman Karl Rove.

Harshberger was not only paid by ACORN, he's done work for ACORN in the past.

"the basic conclusions of that university's work have been independently corroborated by three sets of American and Japanese researchers"

They verified the basic conclusions using original data that CRU admits it no longer has? Wow, that's pretty impressive...not.

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Harshberger was not only paid by ACORN, he's done work for ACORN in the past.
Posted by: Amused | December 7, 2009 5:40 PM
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Yeah.....except for the FACT that Harshberger DOESN'T work for Acorn and NEVER HAS worked for big bad "scary" Acorn...

Try a new post name Teresa aka "Bobbie Mobbie". You've been busted again.

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They verified the basic conclusions using original data that CRU admits it no longer has? Wow, that's pretty impressive...not.

Posted by: Barry J | December 7, 2009 6:40 PM
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And you can prove that the CRU no longer has that data.......how?

Because Druggy Rush told you so? HaHaHa!!!!

Try a new post name Teresa aka "Bobbie Mobbie". You've been busted again.

Breaking News - OJ Simpson has conducted an internal investigation and has declared himself innocent.

As ACORN says "Who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?"

WTH is wrong with you people.....that ACORN condones and doesn't bat an eye about child sex slavery etc etc etc doesn't concern you at all?????
That people in that organization funded with your tax dollars have mechanisms in place to conduct sick illegal activities and offers advice on how to do so and this is nothing????????

Seriously, WTH????????

Faux News ACORN "investigation" = Epic F A I L !!!

You've seen the right wing slobbering and heard their wailing over the scandalous ACORN video, the one where the ACORN employee "admits" to killing her husband. It's given certain on air personalities on FAUX fits. They've used it mercilessly this week to smear ACORN.

Yeah, that video? They were punk'd!

According to Media Matters and Crooks and Liars, both of whom have excellent video of the FOX News talking heads blathering over this hidden camera tape, the ACORN employee pretty much figured out why the people were filming and decided to, as they say in England, "Have them on."

She just kept inventing wilder and wilder claims, all of which FOX ran with without checking. Her husband is alive and well, something according to Media Matters:

"A reporter right out of J-school would have taken the two minutes necessary to call the San Bernardino Police Department and verify Ms. Kaelke's statements. But that never occurred to anyone at Fox News before the network ran with the story. This kind of shameful work raises serious questions about the legitimacy of the entire campaign currently being waged against ACORN."

More info here:

http://mediamatters.org/press/releases/200909160021

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/fox-gets-punkd-acorn-volunteer-knew

Oops!

OK, you can go ahead and laugh now

PS - you heard that right Wingnuts, I said: "Media Matters". You can cry all you want to about that, but VIDEOTAPE DOESN'T LIE!

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WTH is wrong with you people.....that ACORN condones and doesn't bat an eye about child sex slavery etc etc etc doesn't concern you at all????? That people in that organization funded with your tax dollars have mechanisms in place to conduct sick illegal activities and offers advice on how to do so and this is nothing?????
Posted by: UnfrozenCavegirlBlogger | December 7, 2009 9:57 PM
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Flat Earth Cave Dweller,

Really? Acorn condones sex slavery? And you know this because....you pulled it out of your backside, right?

What a joke.....Acorn gets a pittance of money compared to the multi billions that right wing supported criminal organizations like Blackwater and Halliburton get. How about we investigate them?

If Acorn could steal elections Karl Rove would have hired them years ago. Afterall, the Republican party has a lot of experience when it comes to election rigging (Florida 2000, Ohio 2004).

Moron libs, you can't even make up an original posting name. And, you use mine to cry about a poster that you think is posing as another poster. It's time to check back into the institution.

And, defending ACORN? Are you kidding? Yeah they are a great organization...if you want info on how to cheat, lie, steal, pimp, prostitute and swindel. But, you democrats always were experts at all those things.

you guys need to stop watching Fox news. 1. Did a crime take place not on the video I saw, no. What was the end result of the employees helping those imposter's. 2. There must have been intent to knowingly commit a crime. Didn'T see that either. Was the women arrested who said she killed her husband no, why not? she said on tape she killed her husband. You guys need to get a clue. Why is it that they have not been linked to voter fraud. Do any of you Fox news brainiacs know the answer to that?

Dear no spin,

1) Advising people on how to cheat on their income taxes is a crime.

2) ACORN has been linked to voter fraud. Submitting false names on voter registration is voter fraud.

3) It would appear that you are the one who needs a brain there, champ.

Chris Chris Chris you must stop Watching Fox news

1) Accorn is not allowed to throw away any voter registration form. They verify all forms and split them up fraudulant and verifide and turn them all in then they are verifide again. Even if they are proved to be fraudulant because they must turn in all forms. Accorn is not allowed to decide who is allowed to vote and who is not. Once verifide again and some are proved to be fraudlent they are discarded. Fox news reports on the ones proved to be fraudulant and says Acorn is commiting fraud not the case they are following the law. They must turn in the forms even if Mickey Mouse filled out the form. Fox news again didn't tell the whole story. Acorn has never been linked to voter fraud. O'riely reported that fox news has reported on acorn 300 times and that network news reported on acorn less then ten times total. That is because they have never been linked to voter fraud but when you watch Fox news they tell you that Accorn has commited fraud when they only followed the law.

2) I didn't see the whole video on the tax fraud. Did you how did it end did they prepare a tax return for these people.

3) To my knowledge that person was not a certifide tax accountant. If I go up to Joe blow in the street and he tells me how to commit fraud on my taxes did he break the law. All information given to the associate was made up by Joe citizen so was there A crime commited. Just go back to the person who said she killed her husband what law did she break. Was there a tax return created who was commiting fraud.
4) It's Just another half truth store that Fox news is famous for they are neverending. Look at the czar story. The term czar was made up by the press to shorten the correct title of the government offical. Busch had more czars then Obama does. Belive it or not the term has nothing to do with the historical term czar but don't expect to hear that from fox news. As long as people keep watching Fox news and belive that crap I will alwas have people to laugh at.

Dear no spin,

US Code § 7201. Attempt to evade or defeat tax.

Any person who willfully attempts in any manner to evade or defeat any tax imposed by this title or the payment thereof shall, in addition to other penalties provided by law, be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more than $100,000 ($500,000 in the case of a corporation), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both, together with the costs of prosecution.

The perp need not help prepare a tax return in order to violate this law. Simply put, an ACORN representative was asked for help in securing government funding for housing. The housing was to be used for illegal purposes (underage prostitution, illegal immigration, etc). The ACORN representative provided council to the undercover pimp and prostitute on how to defeat the tax law for their illicit endeavers.

Now, I'm not going to even get into the whole argument that you're trying to defend people who would aid and abet child prostitution. I'll leave that to your own moral conscience, provided you have one. The fact that the ACORN rep in at least one of the videos offered advice on how to falsify income tax data should be enough to meet the test of "willfully attempting in any manner to evade or defeat any tax."

Hey Free to Watch - How do I know they don't have the data? They (CRU) admitted that it was discarded, trying keeping up, please...

http://theknightshift.blogspot.com/2009/11/climate-data-was-dumped-east-anglia.html

Chris the question at hand has always been was there a crime committed. Your moral beliefs and my moral beliefs are not an issue. Moral beliefs have nothing to do with weather a law was broken. The two clowns posing as customers are not members of a law enforcement organization this was not a sting operation. You have two private citizens setting up Accorn. We have not seen the entire transcript of what went on here. Could what was said be considered entrapment? The woman from Accorn says she could tell they were full of it and she decided to play along. Was she a prostitute when she was younger as she alluded to and did she kill her husband no. She was giving back as much crap as she was given. Not to mention we all saw how those two were dressed how often do you think people come in dressed like that. Now the important question what crime was committed. Was there a tax return were there actual tax documents filled out were there w2 forms what was there. Remember there must be an actual crime is there a tax return was there fraud? Two people standing together talking about robing a bank for ten minutes and nothing is done about it should they be arrested for bank robbery or attempted bank robbery when nothing is done about actually robing the bank. In the law you quoted it said wilfully attempt in any manor to evade or defeat any tax imposed. Show me anybody's actual attempt to evade or defeat any tax nobody did anything to fraud the government. If I ask you how to steal a hot dog and you tell me how we did not commit a crime. Neither one of us actually did anything to attempt to steal that hot dog.

Hey Free to Watch - How do I know they don't have the data? They (CRU) admitted that it was discarded, trying keeping up, please...

http://theknightshift.blogspot.com/2009/11/climate-data-was-dumped-east-anglia.html

Posted by: Barry J | December 8, 2009 6:25 PM

The liberal idiot who's not even bright enough to make up his own posting name (and he doesn't even realize what a moron he looks like using mine) wouldn't know data from liberal media bias. And, data and facts just confuse watermelons like him.

No Spin,

I suggest you study criminal law and learn about mens rea.
Conspriacy to commit a crime is a criminal act. An act done in furtherance of a crime, is a criminal act. Inchoate offenses are acts that are deemed criminal without an the actual crime being committed, which these ACCORN representatives have certainly done with regards to offering and assisting the undercover pimp and prostitute with tax fraud.

I never said that my moral beliefs had anything to do with whether or not a crime was committed. It was a comment on you seemingly having no problem rushing to the defense of these low-life ACORN workers who would over-look the obvious moral and legal implications of assisting someone commit child prostitution, illegal imigration, and tax fraud.

Chris
I have, your missing a very important ingrediant Leagle decisions. I understand what you wrote you were attempting to define the law. What you skiped is that " No person may be convicted of conspiracy to commit a crime, unless an overt act in pursuance of that conspiracy is proved to have been done by him or a person with whom he conspired.

In short you must be able to prove intent. You can't convict someone by what is on thier mind or what they said. With all the bs.about prostitution and murding her husband you don't even know what was on her mind.

No spin,

I suppose you miss the point about criminals being tried in court before a jury, whose job it is to weigh the evidence and determine guilt or innocence.

Can you even grasp at how obtuse you are being in this debate? People have been and will continue to be convicted on charges of conspiracy to commit a crime. Juries decide whether or not the prep reached the level of criminal intent necessary to convict. This is why we have juries in criminal courts. Must I really explain our whole criminal court/legal system to you???

There is no point in debating this matter any further with you since you seem to always retort with the same nonsense about the "murdering wife" ACCORN lady.

Chris i don't know what leagle experience you have?. A quick lesson, in order to be charged with a crime you must be able to show intent to commit the crime. Leagle president means that is the law end of story. You cant charge someone for conspiracy without an overt act in the pursuance of the conconspiracy. That means it does not go to trial they are not arrested. The reason I go back to what the Acorn lady said and did or did not do is because you cant show intent to commit a crime when she is talking bs. No arrest no trial no jury. end of story. Just because you think you know sombody commited a crime you cant arrest that person and just go to trial without evidence. You might have herd of Habieas Corpus without proof a crime has taken place you cant hold them. I hope this is a little easier for you to understand. let me know if you still don't understand.

no spin,

Putting aside your atrocious spelling, trying to make sense of what you wrote is nearly impossible.

As far as my legal (take note of the correct spelling of the word "legal") background is concerned, it's really none of your business.

It is painfully obvious that your knowledge of criminal law is as poor as your spelling, sentence structure, and grammar.

Good luck with that.

Chris,

Sorry for my atrocious spelling and grammar. I was at work when I sent out my last post. I wasn't able to proof read or see everything I typed. However I think you are taking this a little too seriously. As far as criminal law goes I have worked in the field for 17-18 years. I know what I'm talking about. When you posted the definition of conspiracy I assumed you new about legal precedence or criminal intent and what is meant by the term overt act. I also thought you knew what evidence is needed to make an arrest. In the future I will not assume anything and work harder on my spelling and grammar. i hope to debate with you again.

The emails at the heart of SwiftHack were obtained from the Climatic Research Unit of a British university, and the basic conclusions of that university's work have been independently corroborated by three sets of American and Japanese country..