Afghanistan, 'Obama's war now:' Time: The Swamp
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Chicago Tribune
Posted December 3, 2009 10:00 AM
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by Mark Silva

"We did not ask for this fight,'' President Barack Obama told the cadets at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point this week in announcing an escalation -- and also the start of a troop drawdown -- of the U.S. military effort in Afghanistan.

"It's his war now,'' Time magazine declares on the cover of an edition that contains a pointed criticism of a president whom write Joe Klein accuses of trying to have it both ways -- ramping up and ratcheting down a war at the same time.

Time cover on war.jpg

Klein was among the columnists whom Obama invited to lunch at the White House the day that he announced his strategy for a "new way forward'' in Afghanistan.

"I am painfully aware that this is politically unpopular,'' Obama said, as quoted by Klein. "It's least popular in my own party. But that's not how I make decisions ...

"The American people are having a really tough time right now in their own lives. That is why our troop commitment in Afghanistan cannot be open-ended -- because the nation that I am most interested in building is our own.''

Klein suggests: "This is a dangerous mixing of apples and Predators, and it is a reflection of political calculation: the president knows his numbers are sagging because of the oxymoronic perception that he is spending too much and doing too little to ease the economic crisis ...

"The bracing sense of unity that Obama cited in his peroration was achieved reflexively,'' Klein argues. "But such unity is difficult to sustain. And it cannot be reignited by mere words or argument, even when the argument and the policy is, I believe, the correct one."

"We did not ask for this fight,'' Obama said at West Point. "On September 11, 2001, 19 men hijacked four airplanes and used them to murder nearly 3,000 people. They struck at our military and economic nerve centers.

"Yet huge challenges remain. Afghanistan is not lost, but for several years it has moved backwards. There's no imminent threat of the government being overthrown, but the Taliban has gained momentum.

"Al-Qaida has not reemerged in Afghanistan in the same numbers as before 9/11, but they retain their safe havens along the border. And our forces lack the full support they need to effectively train and partner with Afghan security forces and better secure the population. Our new commander in Afghanistan -- General McChrystal -- has reported that the security situation is more serious than he anticipated.

"In short: The status quo is not sustainable.''

The "new way forward'' is Obama's -- and so, Time says, is the war.

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Worst president ever


WOW a headline in the MSM that got it right. Do not many of them now days.


I thought the Left kept saying Afghanistan was the "good war." I always knew the liars and miscreants on the Left never supported going into Afghanistan. The Left is on the side of the Taliban and Al Qaeda.
Obama did the right thing by agreeing with the generals to send in more troops. Where he went wrong was by stating they will be leaving a year later.


You know it's bad for Obama when even Joe Klein and Time Magazine, Obama's biggest media cheerleaders, are jumping ship.


Like most Corporate entities, the Rag, Time, is no exception: Let us attempt to dirty President Obama, to the point of his being unable to effect change in America. In the past, when did a member of the so-called, Fourth Estate, ever point to a President and call a military engagement, that particular President's war ?? That is yellow journalism, of the worst kind, but not surprising, coming from Corporate America !! As much as I would like to call this Bush&Cheney war, it isn't theirs either, although they sure enough, dropped the ball on this one !! This is America's War, or have we forgot why we are there !! Wasn't Afghanistan where the al-Qiada were hiding out !! Didn't they attack America and kill American citizens ? For 8 years, Bush&Cheney left al-Qiada to their own devices, while Bush&Cheney started their war and occupation in Iraq !! Abusing our most precious treasure, our young men and women of our Armed Forces, not to mention our monetary treasures. There was no viable threat from Iraq. They were shooting arrows at our missiles and bombs !!! Once again, Corporate America rears its ugly head. If you haven't been able to see Corporate America's paws behind every debacle that takes from the people of America, then America, you better get to the eye doctor !! Oh, that's right, vision care is not included in that great healthcare policy you have !! Once again, the good, old humanitarian Corporations, win again !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.


Take this to the bank:

We will lose the war in Afghanistan. Just as in Iraq, every serviceman or woman who has died there has died for no reason. Russia and merrie old England learned this lesson a long time ago. You would think....Never mind.

Suffice to say, on my best day I do not receive one tenth of the information that President Obama receives. I don't read any of the Presidential Daily Briefings that are placed on his desk every morning. Obviously he is in possession of a wealth of intelligence that you and I are just not privy to. Maybe we should be giving him the benefit of the doubt - and I have been doing just that, I promise you. But from my vantage point it appears to me that this president has failed to learn the lessons that have been passed onto us down the decades by the administrations of Franklin Delano Rossevelt and Lyndon Baines Johnson - lessons involving bold action in times of economic crisis (more on that another day) and the utter folly of waging wars that cannot be won.

Let this be etched in stone:

Any country that would view its women as inferior beings not entitled to basic human rights is not worth one drop of ANYBODY'S blood.

I want to believe in this president. He is the chief executive I worked harder to elect than any other in my lifetime. I realize that it is simply far too early in this administration to write a final assessment of his term of office. That being said, my confidence in the Obama White House is ebbing rapidly. Where in the hell is all of this change I could believe in? Is the Bush Mob still in charge? What gives?

NOTE TO THE RIGHT WING:

No, I am still exceedingly grateful that John McCain and Gidget von Braun did not win the election last year. Have another sip.

http://www.tomdegan.blogspot.com

Tom Degan
Goshen NY


This is not Obama's war; it's America's war. America's sons and daughters dying, maimed and the astronomical cost and for what?
A natural gas pipeline.
Uranium, copper and whatever else lies beneath the land for the taking. The spoils of *war*
to the corporations and the burials left to us.g


Dear Tommy,

You worked harder than any other time in your life to elect this president. Yet you failed to listen to the campaign promises he made about Afghanistan?

He told you and everyone who was listening exactly what he was going to do with Afghanistan, make it his war! the only one worth fighting and winning!

Now, you're disappointed with the outcome of all your hard work?


Do you drool when hearing a bell ring?


Lather, rinse, repeat.


This is a story about a man and the irresponsible self-involved flippancy of a public-never-satisfied. A story about a man who was able to capture the highest office in the land by being everything to everyone, by having everyone at one time project onto him their own truths. Anyone who has payed attention to the last eight years, the last election, and the present could tell you that for all the platitude packaging and optimistic bubble rap, Obama was a reflection of the conservative times embodied by leave no Republicans behind. He will implement Bush policies (that were never conservative to begin with) more efficiently. There is nothign the President can do to the economy. The solution by the powers that be was always tighten your purse straps poor people and ride it out, cursing the high heavens...and whoever is in office. I feel sorry for the man who stood before those cadets (as crooked as I think he can be at times) because at a time when it would be easy for us to rest (we don't have to do this) he is doing the right thing, if all goes well, in an era becoming more and more underlined by a ever-increasing conservatism preoccupied and defined by our purity and then there is their purity. A responsible end to this war is in order. I questioned his Peace Prize, but like "witnessing" Iranian protesters (not a vis-à-vis that pushes paper, but in conjunction to), I think he's making the right choice, if carried out well, for future generations (I know, I know, ironies). These headlines might redeem the liberal MSM, might break up the liberal block, might play in well to the hands of everything-shinny-and-new-at-all-times media always monopolizing on the short-term memory of an irresponsible self-involved flippant public-never-satisfied.
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Curiously, my home state is now headed by a conservative, and protests have appeared against the Afghanistan surge. Strange times. Economy being a biggy, either way, we are always shooting ourselves in the foot.


Afghanistan will only be owned by Obama if his decisions directly lead to and extended conflict. ....

http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/03/28/obamas-war-afghanistan/

President Obama has employed sound rules of Project Management in regard to Afghanistan. He is holding the United States Military accountable for what they say they can do. The Military no longer gets a blank check. ......

http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/12/03/obama-holds-u-s-military-accountable/


So far I don't believe any of his campaign promises about Afghanistan have been broken, during the run up to the election, every far left wing political advocate was stating that Obama was going to quickly pull the US military out of Afghanistan. My reply was simply, how? To do so would mean to turn some, if not most of of Afghanistan over to "irreconcilable elements".


If we are to succeed in Afghanistan, development efforts will be as important as military commitments. A delegation of senior Afghan women leaders visited Washington DC in October 2009 for consultations with US government officials. Brought by the Institute for Inclusive Security, the delegation crafted critical recommendation for charting the path to success that can be found at http://www.huntalternatives.org/AfghanistanRecommendationsOct2009.cfm.


I'm not a fan of the Prez, but let's give his policy in Afghanistan a chance to work. Both sides of the aisle were advocating this type of action jay a short while ago. Now that he's moved forward, we don't agree?

One more thing--give the troops the latitude they need to win. The present rules of engagement make them sitting ducks.


Wonder what his excuses will be this time next year on the war , wonder if he will still be blaming Bush.


To Don F

After reading your latest post I now get it. You lost your job and you are going to blame Bush & Cheney for your miserable life. Maybe its because you spent so much time posting your jibberish on this and other sites that you lost site of what you were getting paid for, by Corporate America of course, and that is called producing. I now that is a hard concept for you to comprehend but if you want to be a productive member of society you do have to work for a living (and that doesn't mean being employed by any government agency).


" Whiny ", I have worked harder in one day, than you probably have in your entire life. From working as a residential mover, landscaper, 48-cars-a-night, car-cleaner on the "L", warehouse and dock work, I have done my share of hard work. I earned my pay check, during my working days, I didn't have to whine, or cajole to make my way in this world.
As it so happens, I came down with cancer, several years ago. while it is in remission, I am not the man I was. I struggle to walk several blocks, but I am not complaining, it beats the alternative. As for my positions on today's issues, they were acquire through first hand experience, not because of a privileged childhood, or a pampered family life. As for yourself, " Whiny ", I hope you fine some sense, along the way, because what you show on your posts, indicates that you aren't one of the brighter bulbs in the marque. You could start by quitting that idiotic party, The Republican-Libertarian Party. You know, the Party that only knows how to lie and distort.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BREING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.


The Left is on the side of the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

Posted by: John D, still right, as usual | December 3, 2009 10:58 AM

Johnny your rants are so kindergarden its almost laughable! I guess you forgot it was the conservative right who supplied the Taliban and Al Qaeda with training and arms back in the great 80's. I guess you forgot it was Bush the first and Reagan who trained and armed Osama Bin Laden back in the great 80's to fight those nasty commies from Russia. Your twisted logic that the left hates woman, hates gays, hates America, hates everything is so far from the truth I am begining to believe your head is on backwards!!


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