by Jim Tankersley
COPENHAGEN - After an opening day of pomp and hope-sowing, the largely behind-the-scenes negotiations for a new global climate treaty have begun in earnest here in Danish capital.
That means it's time for the bargaining-table leaks to begin, as veterans of past climate summits will tell you.
Sure enough, we have our first leak this afternoon: a copy of a proposal (Danish climate text) floated by the Danish government for "The Copenhagen Agreement" under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.
And sure enough, it's less notable for what it says than for what it conspicuously leaves out.
The draft text provides a basic framework for what climate negotiators call a "political agreement" - a sort of nuts-and-bolts declaration of actions to reduce the heat trapping gas emissions that scientists blame for global warming. It's one of several proposals rumored to be on the table, including one from China.
The Danish proposal stipulates that nations agree they must limit global temperature rise to two degrees Celsius. It sets emissions reductions targets for both developed and developing countries, but with very different goals. Richer nations would agree to cut their emissions from historical levels, while poorer nations agree to reduce emissions compared to projected levels.
Perhaps most notably in the eyes of many environmental groups, the draft commits richer nations to providing money and technology to help poorer ones reduce their emissions and adapt to the effects of climate change - in the "immediate, medium and long-term." The "long-term" is something that developing nations and green groups have insisted on.
Much more important are the blanks the draft leaves unfilled.
Read more of the talks underway in Copenhagen in the blog: Greenspace.
(Pictured above: Copenhagen's famous Little Mermaid, left, and "The Survival of the Fattest,'' by Danish sculptor Jens Galschiot. The sculpture represents an overweight Lady Justice figurine, symbolizing the rich industrialized world sitting on the back of a thin worn-out African man. Photo by Peter Dejong / AP)





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John D: As soon as we get around to her front side, we change places, right Terry?
Posted by: Kenny Bunkport | December 8, 2009 11:41 AM
This whole extravaganza is costing $215 million, according to one estimate. Money that governments could be using for better things, like jobs or deficit reduction.
Copenhagen has a carbon footprint as big as Al Gore's mansion, complete with hundreds of private jets and gas-guzzling limosines.
I'll take warming alarmism seriously when the alarmists, by their actions, take what they say seriously.
Posted by: Inconvenient Truth | December 8, 2009 12:40 PM
It's hilarious the way Republicans want us all to believe that global warming is a myth because of a couple of taken out of context hacked e-mails...which just conveniently happened a few weeks before Copenhagen. Remember people, these are the same right wing morons who still think the Earth is flat and Jesus rode a dinosaur.
This is becoming more and more representative of the level of discourse from this pathetic throng of losers. They have already tried to make federal cases out of phony death panels, presidential bowing scandals, child indoctrination via stay-in-school speeches, White House guest lists, and how many pages a bill contains. The ever more lame content of their complaints reveals just how desperate they are to come up with something about which to bitch.
There is an obvious evolution of lameness on the right. In the old days they employed the primitive flag lapel pin gambit. Then they tacked to the War on Christmas. And there is the always popular idiocy of "Who would you rather have a beer with?" But now they have shattered all previous records if idiotic asininity with the ticklish temple tactic.
Next on the Republican scandal agenda: How often does Obama floss? I probably shouldn't give them any ideas.
Every time I think the right wing lunatic fringe can't get any more moronic they come up with something like this. Mustard, arugala, a manufactured lobster scandal?
Posted by: B Mobbie | December 8, 2009 1:54 PM
Yep, today is warmer than yesterday, so we need to DO SOMETHING NOW! Tomorrow it could be even hotter, like maybe 50 degrees and then in the summer it gets hot and in the winter it gets cold. Climate change, and its all because of humans. That thing called the sun has nothing to do with it, nope. We're riding the hockey stick straight to spontaneous combustion. We just need to toss out a little more factual data...
Bush and Cheney and big oil them's the villains here, and Sarah Palin's clothes of course.
Can we get some more news about Tiger Woods?
Posted by: Free to Watch Whatever I Want | December 8, 2009 2:40 PM
The emails at the heart of SwiftHack were obtained from the Climatic Research Unit of a British university, and the basic conclusions of that university's work have been independently corroborated by three sets of American and Japanese researchers. So these phony Republican "complaints" amount to what they usually do - crap
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http://enviroknow.com/2009/11/25/climategate-the-swifthack-scandal-what-you-need-to-know/
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Posted by: Free To Watch Whatever I Want | December 8, 2009 3:04 PM
I love that picture of John D and Bruce frolicking in the water in their thongs.
Smells like Compassionate Conservatism....
Posted by: HHH | December 8, 2009 4:51 PM
The delegates to this "global warming" conference are generating at a minimum over 40,000 tons of extra CO2, using 1200 limos and 150 private jets.
They are generating more CO2 than many small nations, all for 2 weeks, to go over data that has been deliberately distorted to make a political, not scientific, point.
They are the epitome of hypocrites, and should be at minimum ignored, but more appropriately laughed at.
Posted by: Dan C | December 8, 2009 6:04 PM
@ Dan C 6:04PM
Sometimes you have to give a little in order to solve problems, Danny.
Drill, Baby, Drill is NOT the answer to our problems.
If we use your logic we would never be able to drive our cars to work.
Posted by: Andrew Carson | December 8, 2009 7:37 PM
@ Dan C 6:04PM
Sometimes you have to give a little in order to solve problems, Danny.
Drill, Baby, Drill is NOT the answer to our problems.
If we use your logic we would never be able to drive our cars to work.
Posted by: Andrew Carson | December 8, 2009 7:37 PM
First you have to actually have a problem. What REAL problem do you have?
The real problem is that people in the undeveloped countries of the world are dying because of a need for power, electricity, running water, you know all the things that you have. And, the cheapest is nuclear, but that causes problems with possible development of the bomb. Next are fossil fuels. Realistically you cannot run industry off windmills and solar cells, sorry. And, let's see you turn you lights on at night with a solar cell.
Back to the people of the world that are dying because of poor living conditions. We should develop the most efficient, least polluting ways to generate power for us and for the rest of the world. People are dying right now from lack of running water, electricity and development. But, let's not do anything about that. Besides, we would have to actually build things using concrete and the production of concrete produces tons of CO2.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/19/AR2005091901295.html
But most of all, water is a fundamental global health issue. Unsafe water and sanitation is now the single largest cause of illness worldwide, just as it has been a major threat to the health of people affected by Hurricane Katrina. A recent U.N. report has estimated that:
· At least 2 million people, most of them children, die annually from water-borne diseases such as diarrhea, cholera, dysentery, typhoid, guinea worm and hepatitis as well as such illnesses as malaria and West Nile virus carried by mosquitoes that breed in stagnant water.
· Many of the 10 million child deaths that occurred last year were linked to unsafe water and lack of sanitation. Children can't fight off infections if their bodies are weakened by water-borne diseases.
· Over half of the hospital beds in the developing world are occupied by people suffering from preventable diseases caused by unsafe water and inadequate sanitation.
If action is not taken now, 135 million people could die of water-related diseases by the year 2020. That is a larger number than those expected to fall victim to the HIV/AIDS pandemic, a catastrophe that has already killed 23 million people worldwide. Furthermore, water plays a critical role in this disease since many deaths from AIDS are linked to illnesses resulting from dehydration and diarrhea caused by unsafe water.
Posted by: Free to Watch Whatever I Want | December 9, 2009 12:13 AM
“After an opening day of pomp and hope-sowing,…” ~ J.T.
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Errata. The word “hope” should be removed and replaced with the word “hoax”.
“It sets emissions reductions targets for both developed and developing countries, but with very different goals. Richer nations would agree to cut their emissions from historical levels, while poorer nations agree to reduce emissions compared to projected levels.” ~ J.T.
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“different goals”, “projected levels”? Is it a crisis or is it not? One group has to meet one standard. Another group gets a more imaginary standard. Where are they performing the lobotomies?
“Perhaps most notably in the eyes of many environmental groups, the draft commits richer nations to providing money and technology…” ~ J.T.
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Money and technology. Now we are starting to get a sneak peak at the truth.
Andrew Carson@ 7:37 p.m.,
We, Dan C, Django, see nothing but gross hypocrisy. These Elitists are not going to give up anything. Ever. If we use your logic, forget driving "a car" to "work". There likely won’t be "work" and there certainly won’t be a symbol of affluence known as “a car”. This is the scam of the century. Fergetaboutit.
Posted by: Django - N Exile In/Around the 30th Parallel | December 9, 2009 12:29 AM
Washington Outrage and Outrages
Some people say the very existence of government is an outrage; they’re called anarchists. Many others contend what our present government is doing to America is outrageous; they’re called patriots.
There is some limited common ground between those two segments of the body politic and both should agree the following are affronts to America’s independence:
. Navy Seals Trial: Members of the Special Operations units of the United States Navy SEa, Air, and Land Forces (SEALS) have had one essential mission since their commissioning 47 years ago: to accomplish their assigned mission.
That mission as the acronym suggests can involve reconnaisance, hostage rescue, unconventional warfare, counterterrorism and other direct action assignments anywhere on sea and land.
The general mission of SEALS Matthew Vernon McCabe, 24, Jonathan Elliot Keefe, 25, Julio Antonio Huertas, Jr., 28 was to seek out and destroy Islamic terrorist enemies of the United States.
One captured suspect, Ahmed Hashim Abed, alleged mastermind of the 2004 murder and bodily desecration of 4 Blackwater USA operatives in Fallujah, has now accused these men of assault.
If that’s not absurd enough, the three SEALS are now in process of being disciplined by their superiors and could face anything from pay forfeiture to imprisonment to bad conduct discharges.
To add insult to injury, the Navy has refused to release its evidence of this awful, alleged crime committed against a terrorist even though trials are set for next month: http://bit.ly/4zuZqq
My questions: . . .
(Read the rest at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1364)
Posted by: Berlet98 | December 9, 2009 2:17 PM
Posted by: Berlet98 | December 9, 2009 2:17 PM
Agreed, this administration and the "I hate America crowd" are more interested in prosecuting our soldiers than fighting terrorists. These people hate the military and our economy, BECAUSE they think that we should pay REPARATIONS to the rest of the world for "polluting the earth" and our hegemonic ways of world domination.
They are radicals, like Obama, Pelosi and Reid.
Posted by: Free to Watch Whatever I Want | December 9, 2009 2:59 PM
Posted by: Berlet98 | December 9, 2009 2:17 PM
Agreed, this administration and the "I hate America crowd" are more interested in prosecuting our soldiers than fighting terrorists. These people hate the military and our economy, BECAUSE they think that we should pay REPARATIONS to the rest of the world for "polluting the earth" and our hegemonic ways of world domination.
They are radicals, like Obama, Pelosi and Reid.
Posted by: Free to Watch Whatever I Want | December 9, 2009 3:49 PM
*****
Posted by: Berlet98 | December 9, 2009 2:17 PM
As if this were not incongruously bizarre enough, consider the contrast between the TRIBUNAL treatment of the American Navy SEALS in this charade operation versus the CIVIL treatment awarded to Sheik Khalid Muhammad for his terrorist role in bringing down the WTC. Truth and Reality are stranger than fiction in Mustapha’s Administration. What are liberals using to spike that Koolaid?
Posted by: Django - N Exile In/Around the 30th Parallel | December 10, 2009 4:42 AM