Obama: 47 pct approval, new Gallup low

Obama is doing as good as can be expected with the bad hand that Bush Jr and Darth Cheny dealt him.

And besides, the GOP has NO ONE who can beat him in 2012.

I find it hilarious the way the Wingnuts on here start drooling with joy everytime they see a poll on Pres Obama that shows what always happens the longer Presidents are in office - their numbers go down.

If the Wingnutters think any of this means "good news for Republicans", then they are sadly mistaken.

Americans still hate Republicans and they hate them worse than they ever have.
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Whether President Obama has lost steam or not, he has chosen the right road for America, regardless of the fear and smear tactics of the "loser" Republicans !! They have yanked out every possible smear and there is still a good chance that America will have real healthcare reform, with a public option. All the Republicans can do is scare and smear the most important legislature to come down the pike since, that lie ex-President Bush sent to Congress, the run-up to the War and Occupation of Iraq !! Let's not blow this one, Congress, or even more of you, Republicans, will not be returning to Congress, in the midterms !! Americans of every persuasion demand real healthcare reform, with the public option present, otherwise those who vote against it, may not return to their present Office in the Midterm elections !! You thought you took a beating during the presidential elections, that was nothing, to what you are facing, if you shoot this one down !!

I would love to find something....anything to approve of with his actions. But, I'm still looking and waiting.

The reason that the President's approval rating is falling is he is ignoring the American people.

We are concerned about the deficit, the apparent out-of-control spending by our elected public officials and the failure of these elected officials to respond to the will of the people.

His ratings will continue to go down hill until he starts to find ways to get the economy moving and people employed but not by spending more!

So, compared to other US president's, Obama isn't really that bad?

I wonder where the campaign rhetoric turned into comparisons as the only way to excuse the lack of approval by the average American regarding this administration.

Question: Is 47% the lowest of record during December of all presidential polls?

Get the spin - "Immediate public reaction to his new Afghanistan policy showed 51 [percemt in favor and 40 perccent opposed, according to a Dec. 2 USA Today/Gallup poll...."

However, within 24 hours of that speech to the Nation, even his own Democrat sheeple bagan to question the president and minds began to change quickly. Many an American who had high hopes for this president are shamefully finding out that his rhetoric is long and meaningless while his actions are short and somewhat destructive rather than healing.

I drool constantly when it comes to our current president! BTW when is he going to help Tiger already? We need a help Tiger stimulus...

Obamba's big talk on his Afghanistan escalation now seems to be rife with lies--he said out sooner--escalate in order to leave in about 18 months--now--a week later-- the Pentagon, Clinton and Gates say not.. so.. fast..... Anyone but Obamba in 2012. He is pushing HCR with no public option....No. No HRC without a public option because 33% of all Americans' money for the forced insurance will go as profit to insurance shareholders and to the CEOs obscene bonuses. Nothing in all that insurance corp profit money to keep me healthy or alive. So, take 33% (profits) of 8-15 thousand dollars for private insurance, for-profit companies the gov't will force us to pay to health insurance companies...that's 2700-5100 dollars we will pay extra per year for health care if there is no public option. And, that is not even the taxes Obamba wants all of us to pay on already given employer-covered health care. HCR as it stands is a total rip off to all and a boon to all private insurance companies. Contributions $$$ to Baucus, and other Dems and Repugs have taken hold--like the cancer it was intended to be. Obama threw away those who helped him be elected, and those who would have helped in 2010 and 2012. He has played both ends against the loser middle. Obamba just 'bipartisanded' himself.

"Americans still hate Republicans and they hate them worse than they ever have." Posted by: Druggy Rush - Leader of the Greedy Oil Party | December 7, 2009 3:08 PM

Ummm OK, keep spouting that mantra. But if we split it by conservative, moderate, liberal, libs are only 1 in 5. DO YOU HEAR THAT LOONY LEFTIES?!?!?! ONE IN FIVE.

And with the current occupant of the WH and Loony Libs in control of everything (and doing nearly nothing, thank God), where do think that's driving most of the moderates? To the left? Guess again. 2010 should be fun.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/conservatives-single-largest-ideological-group.aspx

Barack is D o n e...
? Where is the Birth Certificate ?
Wake me up when a Party other than the Dems control the US House and or Senate...
Y o u k n o w, Most of the 536 of 'em inside the Belt Way make B o z o look bad...
God Help Us!!!

Gee, couldn't be this, could it?
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The Obama Administration is already $292 billion in the red this year.
This is more than the national deficit for the entire year of 2006 ($248 billion).
Not good.
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Obama tripled the national deficit his first year in office and he’s off to a record-setting start in fiscal year 2010.
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Despite the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Hurricane Katrina, the Clinton Recession he inherited, and the 9-11 attacks, President Bush brought down the national budget deficit from 412 billion dollars in 2004 to 162 billion dollars in 2007.

I would not read too much into Obama's poll numbers. They are comparable to those of Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton in December of their first year in office. Both those Presidents were also dealt with a bad economy when they took office. It will be interesting to see if those numbers hold after the Mid-Term Elections when the Out of Power Party historically gains seats in the congress. If that holds true in the 2010 Congressional Elections and the GOP gains seats in the House and Senate, Obama will be forced to be more Bi-Partisan and Compromise more with the Republicans than he is doing now in order to get his programs approved.

Gee NPR just can't seem to figure out why the general public isn't as fired up about Blobal Warming urrr Climate Change, urrrr, you know what I mean ; )
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NPR ran a piece today about the apparent paradox that as "scientists" become more convinced that climate change is real, man-made, and catastrophic, the global public is shrugging its shoulders.
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"Americans still hate Republicans and they hate them worse than they ever have."

It must be true! This bat-winger read it on themoderatevoice.com!

tim, what about all the jobs that were "created or saved"?

One can see the tears in Silva's eyes as he wrote this.

Anyway, Mark, I'm wondering if you'll over the Max Baucus scandal? You know the one in which he had a girlfriend while still married, paid the girlfriend $126,000 while working for him, and then recommended her to the U.S. attorney for Montana last spring, while never nothing their relationship?
If Baucus was a Republican, I'd bet there would have been a dozen Swamp items already about it, right?

Let Obama and the Dimcorats pass Obamacare or Cap & Trade and then you'll really see their poll numbers drop. Plus if they can not stop the EPA from running shotgun over us with new CO2 rules it will do the same to their polls.

Did the sheeple who voted for him think that they were going to get anything better? "Hope and Change" is not a plan of action, as we have all experienced. But then, Barry did NOTHING when he was our senator.

Obama has not done enough to push healthcare reform with a strong public option, nor has he pulled our troops out of the mideast quagmire.2 campaign promises which brought him votes from the many disgruntled voters.
America needs a 3rd party.

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The reason that the President's approval rating is falling is he is ignoring the American people.We are concerned about the deficit, the apparent out-of-control spending by our elected public officials and the failure of these elected officials to respond to the will of the people.

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No Patty, the reason Obama's poll numbers are down is because we HAVEN'T passed health care yet.

And it's funny how you Wingnutters are all of a sundden "concerned" about spending seeing as how you locksteped with the Bush Republicans while they DOUBLED our national debt in only eight years recently - a record.

The Repukelicans pretend to care about spending only when they're out of power. The spending that the Dems are doing now is DIRECTLY related to cleaning up the mess that the Bush Republicans left them with.
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And by the way, I absolutely LOVE that poll that you right wing rubes are jumping up and down about that shows that more people are Conservative rather than Liberal. Except that you're leaving out one very imporatant part of it - nowadays, people who consider themselves real Conservatives now call themselves: Libertarians, Independents and Democrats......not Repugs.

Hilarious! The lefties came out swinging on this one. Are you people like 12 years old? The best you can do is call people names?

Here is some Change you liberals Can Believe In: 2010 baby! Go ahead, act 12 years old. Blame Bush. Show your FEAR by calling names. Change is coming, and it's coming in 2010.

Certainly not Loony Libs, Lancer!!!!! You're telling me someone who considers themself a Conservative is going to vote for Tax and Spend Demoncrat? Dream on, sweetheart.

Van Jones, this is what liberals do best. Name calling. They have no ideas. Better to name call and for years and years blame the previous administration. Much easier than to come up with real solutions. "Read my lips, if you don't pass this stimulus plan, unenployment will rise above 8%." Good call Barack!

Gallup: 53% of Americans are racist.

Barack. Hussein. Obama. mmmmm, mmmmm, mmmmm.

Here is the problem:

-Still in Iraq.
-Still in Afganistan (and growing.)
-Budget deficit exploding.
-Iran coming to kill us and we are not going to do anything about it.
-Still with Guantanamo.
-Bigotted Special Olympics comment.
-Hates white police officers.
-Ignorantly bows to foreign leaders.
-Imprisoning political enemies.
-Obliterating freedom of speech.
-Gorvernment controlling the media to limit dissent.
-Hollywood churning out communist propaganda pictures.

Gee, what could those repbulicans possilbly be so upset about?

Bobby, that's how a loony liberal's life is: one big dream. Unfortunately their dream is the nation's nightmare!

Subtract those who will never get over the pigment issue and his approval rating would be about 60%.

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Certainly not Loony Libs, Lancer!!!!! You're telling me someone who considers themself a Conservative is going to vote for Tax and Spend Demoncrat? Dream on, sweetheart.

Posted by: Bobby Mobbie | December 7, 2009 5:14 PM
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Wrong again "Van Jones"....I mean Teresa,

Lance is telling you that as much as you and your sock puppets hate it, people support what Obama is doing to get the economy going again after the Bush Republicans tanked it. And it's working.
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Obama is loosing his supporters because he is acting like a Republican... more war, not pushing the prosecution of Bush War Crimes, not shutting down Guantanamo, more spending, no funding for the spend, helping the rich and corporations rather than the American people... Hey lets face it, Reagonomics doesn't work... but instead of admitting that he is staying the course, rather than providing change. He is willing to bail out wall street but those of us on main street are suffering. He is turning out to be a big disappointment and if he stays on his current track of appeasing teh Republicans and compromising with the party of No most of us supporters will sit on our hands come the next election. I for one was an Obama supporter who cannot support more of the same old Bush war and policies, This is NOT change we can believe in.

Big deal....check out Reagan's first year approval ratings
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Reagan went down to the high 30s "Bush territory" in approval in his second year.

Obama's poll numbers are fine, they're about the same as Saint Ronny Rayguns were at this time in his presideny.

And no one is exactly jumping on the Republicans band wagon.

Let's hear it for our Safe School Czar!!!
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The GOP's problem is that they're all talk and have no one who is credible to run against Obama in 2012.

Palin could continue to play very well with the crazy right wing base and the GOP base is going to be the driving force in picking their next candidate, but Palin has already shown her serious flaws, not the least of them being a lack of any real interest in issues or policy....much like Bush.

She hasn't yet built a loyal team to work with her and reports are that she is quick to anger when she feels she has been slighted.....a lovely brew for palace intrigue, infighting and backstabbing if she tries to put together her own campaign team.

Too many voters are scared of the idea of Palin managing an international crisis. She has no sense of nuance....everything is black and white and military action comes to the fore too quickly.

And with tons of other flaws too many to continue mentioning, I find it really hard to think of any names who are "presidential candidates" for the GOP right now.

Romney....damaged goods and not liked by the wingnutty branch of the GOP. Plus the guy is about as exciting as watching paint dry.

Huckabee....loved by wingnuts for his folksy charm but not a broad national appeal. He gets the same crowd Palin gets but Palin's large crowd of devoted followers makes Huckabee's look like a joke.

Paul.....niche candidate. If Paul actually believed any of his own schitick he'd drop the Republican label and run as a Libertarian - he won't.

Jindal....destroyed himself with that response speech to Obama's State of the Nation

Sanford.....did himself in in Argentina.

Pawlenty......at the point would need a charisma and name recognition transplant to gain any momentum.

Gingrich......Hahaha...snort

Cheney.....myochardial infarction

Kay Bailey Hutchison....may well lose TX governorship battle.

Beck, Dobbs.......if the GOP were to go with either, they would truly have jumped the shark.

The GOP is always looking for a candidate who has Bushlike qualities....malleable, a vessel into which to pour an ideology wrapped in soothing words and phrases and totally devoid of any viable policy or ideology, except for continued emphasis on the military and restoring their own power and influence to sustain a program of more tax cuts for the rich and benefits to big business and big oil.

The GOP has nothing, zero, zip, nada - end of story.

Obama is a good talker and THAT'S IT! I haven't seen or heard of one good thing he's done since being in officer. I'm not saying the Republicans got anything better, but what a clown this guy is turning out to be.

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You're telling me someone who considers themself a Conservative is going to vote for Tax and Spend Demoncrat? Dream on, sweetheart.

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Idiot,
While you were busying cheerleading for Bush and Cheney and their tax cuts for billionaires - Obama and the Democrats passed the biggest tax cut in history for the middle-class this past spring.

Dream on, sweetheart.

In today's "instant" society when people want everything right now, so many think that this countries problems can be solved with a snap of the finger! What's worse is they want someone else to fix their problems! This country is turning into a bunch of pathetic right wing whiners.

It took us decades of Republican mismanagement and corruption to get us where we are today and it will take more than 10 months for us to recover. Grow-up children!! Give the guy a chance before you villify him.

We finally have some intelligent people on Capital Hill that understand that you can't threaten the world into submission. That at the end of the day brain beats brawn every time. You know the old saying...united we stand, divided we fall.

Use that fat head that god gave you and think about it for a while, "Bobby Mobbie"....or whatever it is that you're calling yourself today.

Democrats spend most of their time accusing everybody else of being racists. Why dont you focus on the issues of say, trillion dollar deficits? or terrorism? Then you might understand why Republicans are the more rational side of the argument.

Since Obama is making our economy worse then what it was, it just goes to show you that Bush was doing the best he could. I voted for Obama, and I totally regret it. What has he done for the people? I'm still out of work but yet many people got new cars. What about gas prices? food prices? What is he doing about that? Nothing. He's terrible.

ex-convict, Robert B. Creamer, is a friend of White House. Let a felon have the blue print for future history. The media furor over the White House state dinner crashers ignores the convicted felon who was invited to attend with the approval of Obama's inner circle. The ex-convict, Robert B. Creamer, is a friend of White House adviser David Axelrod and the husband of Democratic Rep. Jan Schakowsky of Illinois. A major Democratic Party political strategist, he is the author of a 628-page book that describes how the Democrats can become the permanent majority party by passing a national health care bill and giving amnesty to illegal immigrants.
Here is the REAL leader for the Democrats plan: The ex-convict, Robert B. Creamer, is a friend of White House adviser David Axelrod and the husband of Democratic Rep. Jan Schakowsky of Illinois.
Creamer went to prison for ripping off non-profit entities. As we can already see, however, there is an overlap into the health care debate. And again, the "faith community" is playing a major role. In fact, the Catholic Bishops are not only vigorously lobbying for giving illegal immigrants access to a national health care plan but favor amnesty for them. In his recent testimony before the Senate, Cardinal McCarrick called it "legalization for the undocumented."

Idiot,
While you were busying cheerleading for Bush and Cheney and their tax cuts for billionaires - Obama and the Democrats passed the biggest tax cut in history for the middle-class this past spring.

Really Joey Votto who checked your facts? Bush'10 % lower bracket and removal of the marriage penalty cut the middle class taxes far more than Obama's pittance this year your tax law knowledge must come from the 1st grade!

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that's how a loony liberal's life is: one big dream. Unfortunately their dream is the nation's nightmare!

Posted by: John D, still right, as usual | December 7, 2009 5:34 PM
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Johnny DiaperBoy,

So the eight years of warmongering, torturing, outting CIA agents, letting Wall Street run like a casino and giving tax cuts to billionaires under the Bush Republicans is what you call good governance?

You Wingnut goons and your petulant child act about waking up on Jan 20, 2009 and finding yourself deep in the minority and rejected by the American voters, are hilarious.

I can't believe he's doing that well.

Obama is a Marxist. His administration is filled with Marxists and other far-left wing-nuts.

Democrats are waking up to the fact that the Democratic Party has been taken over by lunatics. Their Marxist policies will continue to destroy America and Obama will continue to go down. The many lies he told while campaigning are coming back to bite him.

New way of politics in DC...no lobbyists...no special interests...transparency...

What an absolute farce.

The only people left supporting Obama will be fellow travelers and the losers in society who contribute little while taking more, more, more.

I love this decades of "Republican mgmt" and 8 years of "Republican control".

It's called Google, Al Gore invented it, try it out.

Demoncrats have had control of both houses since 2006. Billy Clinton in the 90's and Billy Carter in the 70's/

Something I tell my kids that you may need to hear: "Handle your own . . . stuff!"

For those who think the Republicon moderate "cleansing" is a good thing, I say fine. Go ahead and knock your socks off - it's only going to guarantee continued Democratic and Independent leadership....and thank god for that.

In other words "Hasta La Bye-Bye" Republicon party !!!

This should be a clear message to the Democratic majority party
in Washington: healthcare reform with a strong public option, campaign and election reform targeting lobbyists for big business and most importantly!

The Party of No is already finished.
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Dont worry GOP - you still have Palin to run again in 2012 - she quit her job as Governor to cash in one her "celebrity" and grab some quick cash and last year's attempt at the #2 spot showed us all how "bright" she is - she will do you all fine! Maybe Joe the Plumber can be her running mate!

I must be getting old. I remember when calling names was below the dignity of most liberals, but then, that was when liberals were concerned about a fascist government, which, by the way, is what the bailout of the auto companies and the pay czar seem to have led us to.
Oh, forgive me, "It's all Bush's fault."
I guess liberals never were big on responsibility.

Ask a Republican how to deal with a recession, and you would be safe in betting your life against a steak dinner they will not ask for specifics before laying out their prescription: Cut upper-income and corporate taxes and reduce public spending. They will not ask or state what current rates are, what they are relative to other rates, nor what they should be, because that information - the facts of the situation - has no bearing on their thinking. What counts is the act of cutting, which they regard as an expression of a moral principle.

Ask them how to deal with sluggish growth, or even how to encourage an already-booming economy, and their response will be no different: Cut upper-income and corporate taxes, and cut public spending. Iterate the question through as many different permutations as you please, the result will be the same - their "solution" is fixed in stone. To a rational person it becomes rapidly apparent that the GOP isn't playing with a full deck, but the problem goes much deeper than Republicans being Beavis-like creatures with a single response to everything: They do not even agree with the literal definitions of the nouns in the question, like "economy," nor do they even agree with the unstated assumption that the purpose of economics is to increase general prosperity.

This fact is easily illustrated by asking a simple question: What should be done if these tax rates and social spending are already zero? While some will equivocate, eventually you will get their honest response to that set of circumstances: Under those conditions, there is no problem to be solved.

This is why no one wants to call themselves a "Republican" anymore and why their blather means nothing.

"Additionally, in recent days Obama has been ramping up his focus on finding ways to create jobs for out-of-work Americans, and is planning a major speech on Tuesday outlining his ideas for spurring job creation. ~ M.S.
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The bad news just does not let up. Mustapha, please, you have done more than enough already. Work on your golf game. Please.

Eight years of Republican leadership has left America choking on a $12 trillion national debt, a $787 billion taxpayer bailout, 10.2% unemployment and two wars whose purposes and astronomical costs are still unclear, with no end in sight. Middle America wants jobs, fiscal responsibility, affordable healthcare and quality public education for its children, none of which were delivered under a Republican administration and Republican Congress. Republicans had eight years to produce for America and they failed, breaking the spirit of Middle America along the way.

Republicans can go pound sand.

You mean the economy isn't booming again yet because - in ten months Obama still hasn't totally reversed the eight years worth of Republicans letting Wall Street run like a casino, starting an unnecessary war and tax cuts for billionaires - thus causing our economy to tank in the first place? I'm Shocked!......not.

Here's the thing Republican whiners: You don’t get to call the shots. You don’t get to suddenly decry spending – when it is going to infrastructure, energy policies and the middle class. You don’t get to perpetuate the approval of torture. You don’t get to bury evidence, to allow subpoenas to be ignored, or to dictate who gets tax cuts. And you don’t get to tell the Attorney General how to run the Justice Department, the Secretary of State how to run the State Department and most certainly the President how to set this country’s policy. Not after the ass kicking you took in 2006 and even more so back in November.

You had control of every single branch of Government – and a good amount on the state level as well. And you were able to do exactly what you wanted. And if the country finally realized that the crap that you peddled was worthless, useless, a distraction and sent this country to the brink of disaster, then that isn’t Pelosi’s fault or Frank’s fault or Clinton’s fault (either of them) or even Jimmy Carter’s fault.

You had your chance, and blew it. Big time. And because of it, you got smacked down. Hard. End of story.

So stop whining. Stop lying. Stop with the strawmen and the ad hominem attacks. That era is tired, and frankly is inching closer and closer to being over. Obama knows it. More and more Americans know it. And more are realizing it every passing day as they see what a responsible, engaged and smart administration can do – and the reaction that they are getting around the country and world.

Wake up and realize it, or continue to make an even bigger mockery of yourselves than you already are. Which, frankly, is fine by me, since that will marginalize you even further as this country slowly gets back on its feet.

John Johnson @ 7:36 p.m.

Modern Liberalism. It will take you places that a rational mind can never fathom. Two things that they can do exceptionally well:

1. Link
2. Name Calling

Some of the name calling is even mildly creative. We have to acknowledge that.

Note to Republican whiners and "very serious" concern trolls who are just now taking issue with spending, the economy, detainees that we haven’t been able to get enough evidence in seven years to charge with a crime or whatever other whiny crap that was in large part caused by the very same Republican policies that you cheered for, pushed for or voted for:

Your way failed. Big time. Like "F-" failed. Of epic proportions. The tax cuts failed. The neverending sinkhole of money for Iraq failed. Torture failed. Indefinite detention of "enemy combatants" failed – even shot down by a Supreme Court where 7 of the 9 Justices were republican appointees. Big money handouts to the oil companies failed. Big money handouts to the financial institutions failed. Deregulation failed. Ignoring the infrastructure failed (bridge in Minnesota or Hurricane Katrina, anyone).

And because of it, you lost. Badly. Twice in a row.

I think the term is "elections have consequence". You remember that phrase, right?

The emails at the heart of SwiftHack were obtained from the Climatic Research Unit of a British university, and the basic conclusions of that university's work have been independently corroborated by three sets of American and Japanese researchers. So these phony Republican "complaints" amount to what they usually do - crap
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First of all, before you go blaming anyone for the current economic crisis -- you better start with Bill Clinton -- he was the Bozo that signed NAFTA. That is the real cause of our economic woes. Yes Bush was an idiot -- everyone knows Bush 41 had three terms in office but to blame Bush 43 is just plain ignorance and crimminal. Clinton by signing NAFTA doomed our country. At least when he committed treason on December 31 2000 (by signing the ICC) the Congress was in the right hands and failed to ratify the ICC.

A start on the road o eecovery is not going to happen until after the crash coming next year when Boeing leaves the United States for Mexico...you think the job hunt is bad now wait until all those workers lose their jobs which they will in 2010.

Thanks to Clinton -- unemployment is at an all time high... and thanks for retaliating for the USS Cole -- wait a minute you did not -- thanks for 9/11 as well.

HEY REPUBLICANS ...YOU DID THIS TO OUR ECONOMY/COUNTRY... REMEMBER?
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There are different theories on parenting. Especially when it comes to little children throwing tantrums. Especially when it comes to little children throwing tantrums....in the middle of a burning house.

That they lit on fire.

And then threw gasoline on.
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And now are standing over the blaze with more buckets of (drill baby drill) gasoline.

A quiet little reminder for our wingnutty hacks from the right wing lunatic fringe....

YOU LIT THIS FIRE!

And here is a hint, REAL PEOPLE are suffering....because of you.

Throwing more tax cuts for the rich fuel on it wont put it out. Cutting funds for contraception won't put it out. And stamping your widdle feets and obstructing every move that the people who DIDN'T light the fire are making to put YOUR fire out...won't put it out.

There are two cliches at war here, guess which one will win out in the end:

Give a mouse a cookie, and he will just want a glass of milk.

vs.

Give them enough rope and they will hang themselves.

NO ONE, but you, has forgotten how we got to this point...in two wars, our standing in the world damaged nearly beyond repair and standing in the flaming soon to be ruins of what used to be our economy. No one has forgotten that it was you who brought us to this point. Or that you have gotten us to this point while laughing at, mocking, denigrating and calling people traitors....the same people who now have to clean up the steaming pile of elephant poop that YOU deposited in the middle of the living room...of our burning house.

The time when you could blame all of your mistakes on the Dems and have the public and the pundits buy it is over. No one is buying it. Ok, I'm wrong, the stupidest factions of the Village and the punditocracy are still buying it....because they helped you light the fire.

But know this....Obama IS just giving you enough rope to hang yourself. And, thank you, you are gleefully jumping up on the horse and fitting the noose over your own head. You make demand after demand, and each demand is grudgingly granted, as a nice, kind liberal guiltified parent gives into a child's tantrum, over and over again.....until that parent finally realizes that that just doesn't work. And is FORCED to try something else, something less.....nice.

Soon it will be apparent to all sane people that being nice to you just doesn't work, that every time we give in to you, your unquenchable three year old egos just take that as a signal of weakness and demand more. With every petulant demand, with every hold you put on a nominee, with every little nit you pick, with every foot stomp, with every BLATANT obstructionist tactic you use to keep us from cleaning up YOUR mess and putting out YOUR fire...you reveal yourself as the petulant, vengeful, idiotic spoiled little children you are. Obama is giving you everything you want....and yet all you want is...more. Do you really think that the misplaced kindness and tolerance that is being extended to you will last, even as you continue to roll around on the floor of our burning house and try to scream at the top of your tiny lungs and hold your breath til you turn blue at the same time....as is typical of your hypocrisy and failed drama-queenish stupidity?

You failed. Your ideology failed. Your economic theories failed, your foreign policy failed, your theocratic social policies failed and your theories of governing failed. Everyone knows this....except...apparently....you.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again...as you have with your trickle down bullshit...and expecting different results. Everything you are screaming for is EXACTLY what got us in to this mess. The fact that you think that doing MORE of the same will fix the mess YOU made just proves your true character and intelligence. You are exposing yourself, again, as insane ideologues living in a delusional land where things that have never, ever worked....suddenly start to work, because you held your breath long enough. You are proving to the entire nation and the world that you are insane. Insane little children, throwing a tantrum in the middle of a house on fire....a fire that, I remind you once again...YOU started.

And so in conclusion I wish to say....thank you. Thank you from Democratss everywhere. We have been fighting your class warrior, hate based, petulant, childish, ineffective and incompetent policies and memes for decades now, trying to destroy your policies and assorted crap so that our country and world can move into the 21st century as a prosperous people who value equality freedom and justice. Now, finally, you are succeeding in destroying yourself in a such thoroughly transparent and complete way that there is only one thing that we can do to help you....expose the crimes and corruption that you inevitably commit every time you gain power.

Have you noticed an obvious trend among the leftist posters? They go from name-calling to personal attacks when reality is pointed out to them.

They have no substantive arguments to back up their looney reasoning, so they attack and make personal slams against the rational people who are simply pointing out reality.

That's it, blame George Bush - I'm sure he hired all of the thieves at ACORN....

At some point, there has to be something in the USA that has gone wrong that the Bush Derangement Types can blame on someone else? Just Maybe ...

.. I heard from my girlfriends' cousin's momma's psychic dishwasher repair asistant that George Bush also caused the new Cadillacs to come out two days late !!!

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I must be getting old. I remember when calling names was below the dignity of most liberals
Posted by: John A Johnson | December 7, 2009 7:36 PM
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This isn't your daddys Democratic party, "Jack".

If you're going to act like a right wing thug you're going to get punched in the mouth for it.

The days of Democrats rolling over and letting you Republican goons step all over them them are OVER!

Deal with it Wingnuts.

anybody that votes for him again is a bigger idiot than he is. socialism has never worked

I want all of the people that voted for Obama to list what hope and change you have received so far? Obama's promises can only go so far. Obama will go down in American history as the worst president our country has ever seen. He offered no hope and only bad change. You put a guy, a community organizer in charge of our great country. George Soros, and David Axelrod own him and plan every word that comes out of his mouth via the TelePrompTer. Rev. Wright moved him up into the Chicago political Hyde Park scene, along with his book buddy Terrorist Bill Ayers "who bombed the pentagon and said after 911 he wanted to do more harm." Obama hangs with questionable people. Obama is as far from what our founding fathers wanted for this great country, he is not a true leader. He is leading us down the wrong path. Our founding fathers are spinning in their graves at the thought of these Ivy league lawyers running things in DC. Did Obama ever have a real job, real friends, a girlfriend? Who is he and what is his past? Look up his bio on the white house.gov and compare other presidents bio to his. Obama's bio, has nothing to speak of which says leader and deserving of being president in his resume. Did anyone ever say no to Obama in his life, growing up. Did he work for anything legit, ever? Was he always the schmoozer? The ratings for Obama are dropping folks because there are 15 million people out of work, 17.7% out of work for 6 months and people just giving up! Small businesses are suffering. Obama has put our debt into the trillions in less than a year! No One president has spent our money faster than him. China owns us. Our children and grandkids will never make any money because they will owe too much for this Obama debt. He now wants to spend more. Our troops have a president who does not care about their backs and will continue this war, even when he lied to you and said he would end it. Doctors do not want the public option. Only 15% of doctors belong to the liberal AMA and it does NOT represent the majority of Doctors. If the democrats pass this health care reform bill say goodbye to your healthcare and wait in line like the Canadians. The elderly will not have it good under obamacare. We need TORT reform. We need statesmen not politicians in Washington DC. We need to take our country back by voting good honest men and women into office. Obama has no character. He loves himself and is a narcissist. God help America and God Bless America. I can't wait until 2010 and 2012 elections! That will be real change.

Could Obama The Destroyer be any worse?

At a time when MILLIONS are out of work, these liberals are working to take over the healthcare industry - 1/7th of the economy.

No matter what, it's going to keep some businesses in turmoil for years as we try to figure out the effects of the takeover - which means that millions will stay unemployed and the deficits go through the roof.

What a mess. 2012 can't come soon enough to get rid of these Liberals/Democrats.

A grand example of the kind of discourse that Mark Silva loves and endorses:

Johnny DiaperBoy,

So the eight years of warmongering, torturing, outting CIA agents, letting Wall Street run like a casino and giving tax cuts to billionaires under the Bush Republicans is what you call good governance?

You Wingnut goons and your petulant child act about waking up on Jan 20, 2009 and finding yourself deep in the minority and rejected by the American voters, are hilarious.

Posted by: HHH | December 7, 2009 7:08 PM

Course, HHH is another name for Janet, John E., etc., etc. Perhaps Janet, John E., etc. are actually Silva??? Mmmm, could be?

Anyway, let's set the record straight with FACTS, another enemy of Mark Silva's.
1. Outing CIA agents. Wasn't Cheney, nor was it Scooter Libby. But it was Richard Armitage, a career bureaucratic appeaser.
2. Letting Wall Street run like a casino. Sorry, Republicans did not do that. Now, we do have Bill and Hillary's hands all over the bust of Global Crossing and their bud Gary Winnick, who walked away with millions as the company folded.
http://www.forbes.com/2002/03/13/0313topnews.html
We also have the dot.com bust in March 2000 as the NASDAQ went from over 5,000 to 3,000.

Then we have Chris Dudd, Son of Chuckie Schumer and other Democraps' hands all over AIG, Lehmann Brothers, Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street problems.
3. Tax cuts for billionaires. This, perhaps, is the biggest lie the complete, blithering, lying morons on the Left continue to spew. Under Bush, EVERYONE got a tax cut through lower payroll taxes, higher child deducations and removal of the marriage penalty tax. Estate taxes also went down and everyone also got stimulus checks.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6621

Here are two key elements from the website:
•A reduction of individual income tax rates from 15, 28, 31, 36, and 39.6 percent to 10, 15, 25, 28, 33, and 35 percent;
•An increase in the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000;

As you can see, ALL tax rates went down and the child tax credit was doubled, which helps ALL Americans, especially the poor.

As usual,
John D scores big with the FACTS while Mark Silva and his sad, little brigade are wrong, wrong, wrong.
What new???

The 53% who don't support him are racist. They must be, right? The 47 % who do support himm are obviously geniuses (just ask them, they'll tell you. The 91% of blacks who support him do so because of his policies.......

Typical right-wing crap from a GOP-owned newspaper. Polls mean nothing.

What's to like about the current administration--or the previous one either? One thing is certain, however: The Machine has its stooges who are ever poised to jump to the defense of this rotten, ruinous, malevolent government as soon as anyone dares criticize the party line.

He ran a masterful campaign, but his presidency has been an unfortunate comedy of errors. We will be paying the price for his mistakes for decades to come

Afraid the aproval dosen't bother Obimbo.
He must have the trump card up his sleeve.

During the election, I wondered why people would fight for this Presidency with all of the problems we face. Obama is constrained to limited options on some important issues such as stimulating the economy, and pursuing the war in Afghanistan, and he is taking flak from both the left and right. I wish him luck.

Another example of the "thought" process from the Loons on the Left:

This isn't your daddys Democratic party, "Jack".

If you're going to act like a right wing thug you're going to get punched in the mouth for it.

The days of Democrats rolling over and letting you Republican goons step all over them them are OVER!

Deal with it Wingnuts.

Posted by: Joe Frazier | December 7, 2009 8:43 PM

Ahhh, threats of getting punched in the mouth by a pansy-arse little amoeba-dropping lefty.
No brains, no guts, no heart, no sanity = Loons on the Left.

And Lefties I forgot to add something on the outing of CIA agents:
About a month or so ago, the Obimbo White House outed Karzai's brother as being a CIA operative.
Course, the corrupt media largely ignored that story. So while the Barbie girl was never in any danger, nor was she a covert CIA agent, this sham of a White House decides to out a CIA operative who actually is out in the field!

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As usual,John D scores big with the FACTS while Mark Silva and his sad, little brigade are wrong, wrong, wrong.
What new???

Posted by: John D, still right, as usual | December 7, 2009 9:44 PM
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Johnny BrainDrain,

You're a legend in your own mind....peanut brain.

I forget, are we still blaming the republicans?

President Obama has inherited a term of office in which monumental issues face this nation. Tough decisions need to be made, and he is making them. Only time will tell if these decisions are worthy of praise or scorn. Too many folks, however, are making snap judgments along strictly partisan lines before results of these tough calls can be fairly evaluated. For too many years, our leadership has failed to take a stand on the hard issues of health care and regulation of financial markets, and both of these issues have brought this nation to the brink of financial collapse. Mr. Obama is finally taking a stand on these issues by dealing with them headon. The entrenched politics of Washington and the media of both extremes are not making this process any easier. It is time for our leadership to stop being Liberals or Conservatives, and begin to engage in truly positive dialog to solve these problems in the best interests of AMERICANs.

Liberals will keep saying "we" until there is like five of them left.

Say no to socialism

Excuse me but isn't Obama's approval ratings going down. That is what this article is all about. Hopefully they will keep going down, and Obama will be a one term President.

I guess all these liberals commenting on here never saw the polling on the DIRECTION OF THE COUNTRY

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Modern Liberalism. It will take you places that a rational mind can never fathom. Two things that they can do exceptionally well: 1. Link
2. Name Calling Some of the name calling is even mildly creative. We have to acknowledge that.
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Sonic Goober from the Smelly Armpit known as Texas.

And here's your link. ;)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCLz7XQOIOQ

"During the election, I wondered why people would fight for this Presidency with all of the problems we face. Obama is constrained to limited options on some important issues such as stimulating the economy, and pursuing the war in Afghanistan, and he is taking flak from both the left and right. I wish him luck.

Posted by: tom | December 7, 2009 10:45 PM
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It is a very difficult job. But, just imagine if you could make a difference in people's life?Look at George Washington? The Republic was young and nobody knew if it would survive. Look at Lincoln? The Union was in peril. Look at Roosevelt? Defeating the Nazi's and Imperial Empire. Looking back, we all can thank them for the great leadership they provided. It may not be right decisions at that time, but history has proven otherwise.

which one is it?? http://typobounty.com/Funny/Obama_2.htm or http://typobounty.com/Funny/Obama_1.htm

Must be another one of those "outliers" Mark wrote about a week, or so, ago!

Socialism sucks. Read history you leftists. It is you who limit freedoms. It is you who are taking us to an orwellian nanny state. The party of civil rights and workers rights and womens rights...is now an out of control monster, ignorant of the true meaning of freedom.

OMG! THIS IS HILARIOUS!

Zombie Reagan Raised From The Grave To Lead GOP:
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http://www.theonion.com/content/video/zombie_reagan_raised_from_grave?utm_source=videoembed
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Gallup: 53% of Americans are racist.

Barack. Hussein. Obama. mmmmm, mmmmm, mmmmm.

Posted by: Chris | December 7, 2009 5:22 PM

I think it's 100%. Nobody agrees with everything Obama wants to do or with everything his teleprompter says, so that means that they are all racists. Yep, 100% racists. We have along way to go...mmmmm, mmmmm, mmmmm.

mark:
anybody that votes for him again is a bigger idiot than he is. socialism has never worked

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So when do you intend to disconnect your household plumbing from the muicipal treatment facility...or refure social security/medicare ?
Action speaks louder than words.

George Bush is responsible for everything, Obama is our Savior.

Posted by: Bobby Mobbie | December 7, 2009 3:56 PM
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Bobby has a very selective memory, since he neglects to tell us how Bush's national budget deficit went from 162 billion dollars in 2007 to 459 billion dollars in 2008. (Source: OMB Table S-4)

robert:
Socialism sucks. Read history you leftists. It is you who limit freedoms. It is you who are taking us to an orwellian nanny state. The party of civil rights and workers rights and womens rights...is now an out of control monster, ignorant of the true meaning of freedom.

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you tell 'em, Robert:
" gimmee back my white fat middle age male America..."

You can follow Obama's Daily Approval rating, it moves daily.. at http://www.theveep.com You can also follow the 2012 candidates and the feild.

Saul Alinsky "Rules for Radicals" = Obama and his administration...look it up.

I must be getting old. I remember when calling names was below the dignity of most liberals, but then, that was when liberals were concerned about a fascist government, which, by the way, is what the bailout of the auto companies and the pay czar seem to have led us to.
Oh, forgive me, "It's all Bush's fault."
I guess liberals never were big on responsibility.

thanks

www.onlineuniversalwork.com

please... stop blaming bush, its getting old...