Clinton, Bush: Haitian aid well-spent

by Mark Silva, updated with the full run of Sunday shows

The bipartisan team of former presidents recruited by President Barack Obama to spearhead private fundraising for the relief of Haitian earthquake victims promised today to ensure that the money they are raising will be well-spent in a nation now reeling in "chaos.''

The two, Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, made their appeals in a full round of five Sunday morning news shows.

One of the aims of the two is to ensure that the money donated is well spent, they said in repeated interviews taped Saturday following their public appearance at the White House with Obama.

"We can assure them there will transparency and the money will be accounted for, and then more importantly, spent on programs that will be effective on the ground,'' Bush said on FOX News Sunday.

"We were asked first, because people know that if they send funds through us, we'll see that it is effectively spent,'' Clinton said on CBS News' Face the Nation.

"The fundamental question for the country is, 'Do we care?'' Bush said on ABC News' This Week. The answer is yes, he said, and part of the reason is the establishment of a stable democracy in Haiti.

"They want to build a modern country,'' Clinton said on ABC.

"Both of us have been through crises,'' Bush said during the former presidents' appearance on NBC News' Meet the Press. Inevitably, he said, media attention will shift to other parts of the world.

"Our job is to remind people that there is still an ongoing need,'' Bush said. "That's part of the purpose of the fund, to say to the American people that rebuilding is a long-term project.''

Several days after an earthquake that has claimed at least 50,000 lives, with estimates of fatalities exceeding 100,000, directors of the relief effort say teams still are focused on finding trapped victims.

"This is still an active rescue mission,'' said Rajiv Shah, director of USAID, in an interview today on NBC's Meet the Press.

Bush will not be going to Haiti anytime soon, he said, but Clinton, also the special United Nations envoy to Haiti, may travel quickly.

"I may go in a few days because of my U.N. job,'' Clinton said on FOX. "But if I do, I'm going to try to stay out of the way... I agree with President Bush that we don't need more people down there now unless they are literally delivering, providing food, water, shelter, medicine, medical care. It's chaos.''

Bush, in their appearance on CNN's State of the Union, was asked how they will define success in the Haitian relief effort.

"For me, success is helping save lives in the short term, and then we can worry about the long term after the situation has been stabilized,'' Bush said.

"But I think it's a legitimate question. You know, do we want to put money into a society that hasn't benefitted after we've stabilized? '' he said. "And the answer is, I think we do, just so long as we work with the government to develop a strategy that makes sense. To say the country can't succeed is too defeatist as far as I'm concerned.''

Bush, voicing his concern about "shysters'' that try to take advantage of crises -- as he put it on Meet the Press -- said this on CNN of the drive that he and Clinton are leading: "We're a safe haven.''

Clinton was asked on Meet the Press why rebuilding Haiti matters.

"No. 1, it has the highest AIDS rate in the Caribbean,'' Clinton said. "No. 2, it's the poorest country in the Caribbean, and it's holding the whole region back... No. 3, they actually have shown a willingness to change...

"If they could succeed where they have failed for 200 years, that will change our idea of what is possible not only here but in Africa and Southeast Asia and everywhere else,'' Clinton said. "That's worth it all over the world.''

Clinton was carrying an organic briquette from Haiti.

"Before this earthquake hit, Haiti's per capita income was about $780 a year,'' Clinton explained. on FOX "Seventy-five percent of the people were living on less than $2 a day. One of the big problems was the deforestation. One of the reasons that the hurricanes hurt more there is its trees have been taken down.... For fuel, they cut up the trees for charcoal, (to) cook dinner.

"By the same token, Port-au-Prince and the other cities, like most cities in poor countries, hardly pick up the garbage and they have these unsightly landfills that are public health menaces,'' he said. "There is a neighborhood in Port-au-Prince which brought the crime rate down and the employment rate up by collecting the garbage, taking the organic material and turning it into fertilizer for farmers, recycling the plastic and the metal, and taking the paper and mixing it with... sawdust and wetting it then drying it and cutting it into these little briquettes.

"And three of them will burn as much for as long to cook dinner for a Haitian family as charcoal, and at about a quarter of the price.

"You employ 10 times as many people in the process,'' he explained."You save money for the families. And you reduce the incentives to tear down the trees. And if you do that and at the same time build income-earning trees, like mango trees, and reconstitute the mahogany forest, the other of these fast-growing trees you can cut down without deforestation. That is, the roots stay and they grow up again...

"This will be a part of Haiti's rebuilding. I know it's hard for people to think about that now, but these -- this government and the people of Haiti had an economic development plan that I was helping them to implement, and we're going to go back to it once the smoke clears.''

Each was asked how they have responded personally.

"I've been watching TV from Dallas, Texas, and I feel sick to my stomach,'' Bush said in the FOX interview. "I feel it's really emotional. And that's the way it is for a lot of Americans. And therefore a lot of Americans are going to want to help. And our job is to make sure their help is not squandered, that it is spent properly.''

"I've been almost equally moved just by what we've all seen on television,'' Clinton said on FOX. "And I'm just grateful that we're in a position to help, you know, because I think every American who has watched this, and probably every citizen in the world has watched this, said, gosh, I wish I could do something.''

Bush, who had made the support of faith-based initiatives part of his White House agenda, spoke to the work of missionaries in Haiti.

"A lot of people hear the call to love a neighbor like they'd like to be loved themselves,'' he said on FOX. "My own church, Highland Park United Methodist Church, had a group of church members in an eye clinic. They fortunately came out, sadly one person died.

"But Haiti has been a focus for a lot of the faith-based groups because they see incredible suffering and great poverty and great need. The ultimate recovery of Haiti is going to be aided by faith-based -- the faith-based community. It's not going to be only faith-based community, but it will be helped by the faith-based community.''

Bush had organized a similar presidential fundraising team for the relief of victims of the South Asian tsunami in 2004 - Clinton and former President George H.W. Bush raised money for relief.

Bush, however, also had suffered widespread criticism for his administration's handling of the response to Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans and along the Gulf Coast the year before.

"People love to point fingers,'' Bush said on CNN's State of the Union. "But what people should focus on in Katrina is... how the American people responded to help a neighbor in need.

"Same situation here,'' Bush said. "And whether it be the tsunami or whether the earthquake in Pakistan or the tornadoes that hit during my presidency, there was always an outpouring of support.

"And all I wanted to do and Bill wants to do is to be a part, lend our hand,'' he said on CNN. "One of the things I am concerned about is that... during these crises, all kinds of fake charities spring up, that, you know, take advantage of people's goodwill, and we're a safe haven.

"We will make sure the money is accounted for and there's transparency, and properly spent.''

Do these two think of one another as friends, the former president were asked on CBS.

"Yeah, I do,'' Bush said. "My mother calls him my fourth brother.''

"Me too,'' Clinton said, joking that he is "the black sheep of the family.''

Both Clinton and Bush were reluctant, on Face the Nation, to address the contention of radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh that Obama is playing the Haitian relief effort for political advantage.

"Now is not the time to focus on politics,'' Bush said.

The Web-site that the White House has established for the presidents' fundraising drive: www.clintonbushhaitifund.org