White House: Robertson words 'stunning': The Swamp
The Swamp
Chicago Tribune

'Utterly stupid,' White House press secretary says of Robertson's remark.

Posted January 14, 2010 11:15 AM
The Swamp

by Mark Silva and updated at 3:45 pm EST

A senior advisor to President Barack Obama today said the Rev. Pat Robertson's remark that the earthquake-stricken Haitian people had made "a pact to the Devil'' long ago was "stunning.''

"I'm kind of speechless about that kind of remark," Valerie Jarrett, presidential advisor and friend, said in an appearance on ABC News' Good Morning America. "Our heart goes out to the people of Haiti. ... That's not the attitude that expresses the spirit of the president or the American people, so I thought it was a pretty stunning comment to make."

Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary, said this today, when asked about Robertson's comment: "It never ceases to amaze that in times of amazing human suffering, somebody says something that could be so utterly stupid. But it, like clockwork, happens with some regularity.''

"You know ... something happened a long time ago in Haiti. ... They got together and swore a pact to the Devil," Robertson said on his Christian Broadcasting Network's 700 Club on Wednesday. ""They said, 'We will serve you if you get us free from the French.' True story...And so, the Devil said, 'OK, it's a deal.' And they kicked the French out... You know, the Haitians revolted and got themselves free. But ever since, they have been cursed by one thing after another."

In a statement on its Web site, the Christian Broadcasting Network said Robertson was speaking objectively about Haiti's history that has led "countless scholars and religious figures over the centuries to believe the country is cursed. "Dr. Robertson never stated that the earthquake was God's wrath,'' spokesman Chris Roslan says. "If you watch the entire video segment, Dr. Robertson's compassion for the people of Haiti is clear."

Clear as could be, right?

This isn't the first time Robertson has linked natural disasters and terrorism to the wrath of God. Ever-ready in the hyperbole department, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann has suggested that Robertson is the devil.

The president, for his part, made something clear today:

" Few in the world have endured the hardships that you have known,'' Obama said in directing remarks from the White House to the Haitian people from the White House.

"Long before this tragedy, daily life itself was often a bitter struggle,'' Obama said. "And after suffering so much for so long, to face this new horror must cause some to look up and ask, "Have we somehow been forsaken? ' To the people of Haiti, we say clearly, and with conviction, 'You will not be forsaken. You will not be forgotten.'''

And Bill Clinton, the former president and special U.N. envoy to Haiti, says in his own Time magazine essay: "Haiti isn't doomed.''

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Ok, now there are two items on Robertson's stupid words. Really???
Again, while Robertson's words are idiotic and not even Christian in anyway, frankly, does it really have anything to do with what is going on today? Has Robertson done anything that has Haiti in the situation it is in today, earthquake or no earthquake?
Is Robertson in any way whatsoever even minutely responsible for that country being as poor and run down as it is?
Did Robertson do anything to the Haitian people to hurt them in any way whatsoever?
Do the Haitian people today even care what Robertson had to say? Does it change their situation? Will it harm or hurt the recovery and rescue efforts currently taking place?
Who is more responsible for Haiti being poor, the people jobless and uneducated: Robertson or Aristide, the man Bill Clinton put back in power in 1994??


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John D, nothing like that matters to us. We just like whining about anyone who doesnt believe Barry is the truth and the lightYEEEAAAAH TEAM BO EEEEEEERRRRRRGHHHHH!!


So, Donny boy is about to explode on this one! This has got to be the evil Cheney - Bush, Corporate Greed and all things Republican fault.

Forget the Rev. Robertson, he's no more credible than Rev. Wright, right?

I mean for those nutjobs whacking away at anything considered close to Republican, Rev. Robertson cannot be tied to the Republican party anymore than the Rev. Wright could be tied to Barack Obama.

What kind of person sells their soul to the Devil anyway?

The kind that know just how bad the French are and will do anything they can to rid themselves of them!


GOT IT?

Posted by: Bobby Mobbie | January 14, 2010 11:56 AM


You forgot to mention "death panels". There are 3 sides to every story. The left's the right's and the truth.


Pat Robertson's comment about the horrible earthquake and great loss of like in Haiti is just unbelievable. I think he has really lost it in his old age.


Ladies and Gentlemen, meet the spiritual leader of the Republican Party. Pat Robertson, the Moqtada al-Sadr of the GOP so to speak,. Your party is toast!


Three long days to address the country on the Christmas Day terrorist attack, but less than 12 hours to assail a preacher as crazy as Rev. Right.

Paulo


Springfield......You have got to be kidding..right? It means nothing that he was a presidential candidate for the republicans who recieved 25% of the vote and it's irrelevant? As John D himself say's, what he said was not even Christian, yet he has millions of faithful Christian followers. I think it shows that the right is more into the words of someone than the actions. I will await your childish resonse.


On Wednesday, January 13, Evangelist Pat Robertson inferred that the earthquake which has devastated Haiti, an African-descended, and the poorest nation in the Western hemisphere, is the judgment of God for a legendary pact they made with the devil so that they would be delivered from oppression at the hands of French whites. He said the Haitians are “cursed.”

The National Black Evangelical Association cannot with greater passion deplore those comments, and ungodly, unbiblical response from Robertson. As Black evangelicals we distance ourselves from such perspectives of right-wing evangelical leaders and their followers.

Jesus set the record straight. In John chapter 9:1ff., the disciples asked the Lord why a “natural disaster” happened to a man who was born blind. Was it due to the man’s sin in his mother’s womb, or to his parents sin? Jesus answered, neither. God was doing something different; revealing His miraculous works in the life of that man.

Jesus and His true followers would not for a moment tolerate the theological speculation of Christian leaders about the origins of evil at a time when millions of people are suffering unbearably for their survival. He would admonish them to shut their hypocritical mouths, to show compassion, and to serve the Haitians with the liberating and care-giving work of true evangelical leaders of the Most High God.

Pat Robertson is blinded by his pharisaical so-called theology.

The National Black Evangelical Association
Rev. Dr. Walter Arthur McCray
President / www.the-nbea.org
01/14/10


Pat Robertson is an idiot!!!


Same goes for the defacto leader of the Republican party - Rush Limbaugh.


A tragedy like the one in Haiti is not a time for stupid partisan politics.



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Posted by: Bobby Mobbie | January 14, 2010 11:56 AM
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Paid Right Wing Troll,


MAYBE IF YOUR FELLOW RIGHT WING LUNATIC FRINGE NUTJOBS WOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR PIEHOLES SHUT WE WOULDN'T HAVE SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT!!!



This shocker just in: Majority Would Vote Against Obama

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/01/majority_would.php


Pat Robertson is nothing more than a money grubbing charlatan and his right wing followers are blind, ignorant sheep.


Interesting that the posters from the Right are quick to politicize this suffering and complain about the bumpiness of the ride when one of their big wheels goes out of alignment.


Lil Johnny D,
If your right wing heroes weren't such nutjobs (Robertson, Limbaugh etc) you wouldn't have to worry about being embarrassed by them.


AT LEAST CONSERVATIVES CALL OUT PEOPLE SUPPOSEDLY IN THEIR PARTY, UNLIKE THE DEMONCRATS AND THE LAMESTREAM MEDIA.
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Ignorant and Offensive
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http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTliN2Y1YzU4NjUwMDkwZTZjYjFhZDM3NGNkZDk4MmI=


Robertson and Limbaugh aren't real Christians, they're narcissist's.


And the little kindom of "me" is all they know.


They're an embarassment to America and our human species.



Yes, Pat. It was the Devil. It has nothing to due with history. Nothing to do with the IMF nor dictators nor plate tectonics . Haiti's poverty and natural disasters are the work of the Fallen Angel. Good luck with selling that in the information age.


The only god these right wing religious nutjobs here in America (Pat Robertson etc) serve is the god of - $$$ MONEY $$$


What does Valerie Jarrett
think of another whacky rev's comments, Rev. Wright?
I wonder if she was just as speechless then?
"God Damn America!" Right Wright?
I guess you can apply her comments of: That's not the attitude that expresses the spirit of the president or the American people, so I thought it was a pretty stunning comment to make." here also.

Rev's on the left = okay, we don't really pay attention to them.
Rev's on the Right = Speechless, in other words BAD, stunning.
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Rev's on the Right = Speechless, in other words BAD, stunning.
Posted by: wingnut master | January 14, 2010 2:25 PM
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Wingnut Clown,
If Rev's on the Right would quit blaming national disasters on poor black people they wouldn't have that problem.



It's not just Pat Robertson who has a bad case of The Wingnut Stupid. Limbaugh said today that Obama is responding faster to the Haiti situation than he did to the failed underwear bomber because he wants more cred with the light and dark skinned black community.


Let's see here:


-Failed Underwear Bomber = 0 dead


- Haiti Earthquake = Thousands upon Thousands of dead and injured.


It sure is nice of Rush to open his racist piehole again and remind everyone exactly why they hate the Republican party.
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http://rawstory.com/2010/01/limbaugh-obama-haiti-boost-credibility-darkskinned/



Springpatch,
Your little postings here are as lame and pathetic as you are. Pat Roberson was a Republican presidential candidate who received millions of votes. You must have had a memory lapse and forgot that one. He's a big time conservative Republican. A racist and a bigot as well who misrepresents the Bible.


Isn't this the same Robertson " who concurred with the loopy post 9-11 ruminations of that other grand wizard "preacher" Jerry Falwell about how God may have allowed the nation to get what it deserved because of moral decay, specifically listing the ACLU, abortionists, feminists, gays, and the People For the American way as sharing in the "blame" ? Now this latest foot in mouth. Seems good ol' "Rev" Wright by no means has a patent on buffoonish proclamations. It is not hard to imagine how close the USA would be to Iran or other countries ruled by islamic nuts if our own religious fanatics ever got their hands on running the government.


I guess you can apply her comments of: That's not the attitude that expresses the spirit of the president or the American people, so I thought it was a pretty stunning comment to make-------------------------------


Posted by: wingnut master | January 14, 2010 2:25 PM
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Ummm I'm ashamed God would allow an America in which blacks were lynched and enslaved to White Master's to exist. Why are you proud of that?


Posted by: wingnut master | January 14, 2010 2:25 PM


That works both ways......


There are many right wing lunatics, but Pat Robertson just reached a new level of lunacy. By announcing on TV that the Haitians have made a pact with the Devil.


Hello? Pat Robertson is one of the religious right wing leaders of the republican party and he even ran for president once!


It makes you wonder how much insanity is in the Republican party of today. People like him and others (someone else who is very famous and when was president thought that God was talking to him about the Iraq war i.e. Bush) would be considered totally delusional and psychotic if they said such things out of the context of religion. But they do and they have 20-30% (base Republican idiots) of the country believing them and their bizarre ideations. What kind of a country have we become? How is it possible that there are people that believe such things?



Will it harm or hurt the recovery and rescue efforts currently taking place?

Posted by: John D | January 14, 2010 11:28 AM

You, Springfield and the rest of the wingnuts on here are the biggest racist idiots I have ever encountered!

By his words, Robertson is reaching out to his morons and telling them not to help because the Haitians asked for it by signing a pact with the devil! You people who are piliticising this by compairing Robertson to Wright and blaming Obama and CLinto for this horrible act of nature disgust me beyond anything I have ever seen!
I cant stand you people! The voters cant stand you thats why you lost the election!
Only reason you may pick up seats is to balance the power and thats it. If you ever think you will have control again you are dreaming!!
Bigot moron rightwing lunatics!!


Yes, I am glad you all agree to disagree. From my viewpoint I don't agree with either a$$ clown rev. Both are a total joke.
The point here is in the swamp the door only swings one way (left that is).
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To "concerned dumb-o-crat", Good try but to state that I am proud of slavery is a misguided conclusion. Any decent person realizes slavery was EVIL.
But that is usually the first response from a left wing moron
Whenever the possibility of race is infused to any discussion,
attack & play the race card.
I know that rev. Wright is black (duh,)
so enlighten me, what in the world has it to do with him stating "god damn America".
That's what he is teaching today, HATE, correct? I always thought a rev's job was to bring the good out of people, not the bad. In my religious institution we always say
a prayer for THIS country. We pray that our chosen leaders make the right choices.
But never have I heard the guys running it throw the USA under the bus. Never.


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I know that rev. Wright is black (duh,)so enlighten me, what in the world has it to do with him stating "god damn America".
Posted by: wingnut master | January 14, 2010 3:58 PM
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Rev Wright didn't comment on Haiti, Robertson and Druggy Rush did.


Quit trying to change the topic, Wingnut Clown.



The part that's foul is not the part that there are people who are willing to believe such things in a fairly open country but the part that reeks the most is that there aren't that many people willing to stand up for the misrepresentation of their beliefs. That's why I'd like to commend some of the people who responded on the original Pat the devil post. If you take your faith seriously you recognize how these remarks damage it no matter the depth or height of the person in question, Pat Robertson. People of the faith and people of goodwill have no business making such vile statements like a person asked to be killed, to be raped, or to be swept up in a typhoon. NUTS.


WOW, look at the froth coming from mouths of the left because someone mentioned religious things.
But when one of their own spouts a racial word, they swarm around him to protect him like Bee’s to their Queen.


About Robertson’s commentary on Haiti

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va., January 13, 2010 -- On today’s The 700 Club, during a segment about the devastation, suffering and humanitarian effort that is needed in Haiti, Dr. Robertson also spoke about Haiti’s history. His comments were based on the widely discussed 1791 slave rebellion led by Boukman Dutty at Bois Caiman, where the slaves allegedly made a famous pact with the devil in exchange for victory over the French. This history, combined with the horrible state of the country, has led countless scholars and religious figures over the centuries to believe the country is cursed. Dr. Robertson never stated that the earthquake was God’s wrath. If you watch the entire video segment, Dr. Robertson’s compassion for the people of Haiti is clear. He called for prayer for them. His humanitarian arm has been working to help thousands of people in Haiti over the last year, and they are currently launching a major relief and recovery effort to help the victims of this disaster. They have sent a shipment of millions of dollars worth of medications that is now in Haiti, and their disaster team leaders are expected to arrive tomorrow and begin operations to ease the suffering.
Chris Roslan
Spokesman for CBN


Pat Robertson is an idiot


WOW, look at the froth coming from mouths of the left because someone mentioned religious things.
Posted by: MAJMark | January 14, 2010 4:23 PM

Please tell me what is religious about blaming the sufferers of a disaster by saying they have a pact with the devil? Geeeeez!


Why do Blago and Robertson make the front page, but I have to search the site to find anything on the wasted stimulus, the higher credit cards fees after the feds meddlings, tax increases, more troops dying, and ever increasing unemployment.

Come on can the Trib report on anything that really AFFECTS its readers!


Chris Roslan
Spokesman for CBN

Posted by: R. Hoeppner | January 14, 2010 4:30 PM


and did they send lawyers to re-negotiate their contract with the devil????


Please tell me what is religious about blaming the sufferers of a disaster by saying they have a pact with the devil? Geeeeez!
Posted by: bill r. | January 14, 2010 4:56 PM
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Bill, you just answered your own question... BTW he wasn't blaming any one or anything.


Pat's a whacko. However, have you ever listened to some older people? They kind of start going off the deep end with their statements before they become noticeably physically and mentally impaired. I belong to an organization that has an older guy on the committee, he has kind of gone off the deep end with his comments over the past 6 months, piping up with totaly off the wall comments, but you dare not remove home for fear of offending someone.


Look the timing of Pat Robertson's were intactful to say the least. It was not the time to discuss this matter. There are people hurting and suffering and ministering to them through love compassion and service is a more likely way to reaxh them. However I would like to point out that even though the timing of his comments are unfortunate that those of you referring to him as a crazy preacher or senile old man should do your research, because what he said is true. He may have dramatized the story a bit, but it is a historical fact that indeed a group of people dedicated this country to Satan. Now I don't think that the Devil was physically manifest and present in physical form how Robertson described; however there was a dedication and the land has been undoubtedly cursed since. See a lot of secularized society's problem in America is that we always dismiss the supernatural as folklore, this is not the case in most non western societies. They understand the supernatural world does exist and Christians in America should as well, it is very plainly written in the Bible that Satan and Demons do exist. And there is definitely a curse on that land. It is unfortunate so many are hurt or suffering.


Haiti is the economic libertarians wet dream. All those people that want to get rid of market regulations and want big business to do whatever they want need only to look at the condition of Haiti and its economic situation. Haiti practices what those people preach, and they are an extremely poor nation. In fact, EVERY nation that has done away with market regulations and allowed business to "rule" has seen nothing short of economic meltdowns. So keep pushing your FAILED economic theories, and maybe one day the majority of Americans can live like these poor people.


LibTribDrib,

There's a story on the Trib about how banks are poised to raise credit fees. They also ran stories about how stimulus money did not add up in certain districts and how that conflicted with the phony job numbers put out by the white house. They also run stories about the high unemployment rate. I know you have this whole "liberal mainstream media" crutch that you hold on to, but it's really not true. Try reading the Trib online version more carefully before making such idiotic comments.


Is this supposed to be a"Sins of the Fathers" thing? Because it would seem that a curse for a pact with the devil would be a pretty silly thing for God to do when no one who supposedly made the pact is still living (in Haiti or elsewhere)

As for Pat Robertson, if he is supposed to be one of the brightest bulbs on the string, we are in BIG trouble (Certainly the Republican party is). Didn't he also say something about Hurricane Katrina being a punishment to this country for abortion or something? If we all are perfect from now on, does he think all the natural disasters in the world would just STOP? I don't think so . . .


Pat Robertson is a BIBLE BELIEVING Christian and a informed historian and has made a wise & informed statement. He is a person of integrity!!! He is also controversial!! Hmm, makes me think of someone else who was controversial two thousand years ago. Somebody by the name of Jesus Christ!!!!!! You need to correctly divide the scripture (Bible) when it comes to understanding the Bible "Who had sinned this man or his parents."


it is very plainly written in the Bible that Satan and Demons do exist. And there is definitely a curse on that land. It is unfortunate so many are hurt or suffering.

Posted by: Billy Meszaros | January 14, 2010 5:08 PM

Ya the bibel also tells me I can sell my youngest daughter to the highest bidder. Tell me Billy, how much should I sell her for? she has a law degree from Harvard. Idiot!!


Pat Robertson was a serious contender for the Republican presidential nomination. What he said was: (a) insane; (b) insulting to the hundreds of thousands of innocent victims; (c) imposing collective guilt on an entire people more than seven generations after this fictional pact was allegedly consummated by a few people -- but actually, of course, never was.

Jesus Christ said to heal the sick, clothe the naked, feed the hungry. He would not hold little children responsible for alleged sins of centuries-dead predecessors. I guess my God is bigger than Pat's, because I do not believe that any Satanic pact can curse a nation in my God's world. Only evil humans can really curse Haiti, and there have been plenty of those -- most of them not Haitians.

Pat Robertson is an evil man, and he is a Republican. Those two things are not YET synonymous, but they are getting closer.


Jose,


LidTribDrib is a paid right wing troll.


Pay no attention to IT because all IT wants is attention.



Rev Wright didn't comment on Haiti, Robertson and Druggy Rush did.

Quit trying to change the topic, Wingnut Clown
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Did not bring up Rush.
Talking about Wright from the beggining if YOU read.
But I know you Obama droolers get tired when you have to read alot of pages. That's why you would rather just sign those speding bills quickly.

BTW, the real clown (besides you of course) is having trouble with his I-Pod, why don't you go and help him? You sound like one of those morons that works in an Apple Store.
Genius my a$$.



Didn't he also say something about Hurricane Katrina being a punishment to this country for abortion or something? If we all are perfect from now on, does he think all the natural disasters in the world would just STOP? I don't think so . . .

Posted by: DonnaPassero | January 14, 2010 5:12 PM

Ya and he also blamed 911 on the gays, feminists and abortionists as well. This guy is a money grabbing racist and the people who contribute to him all fall in the same category of idiocy!


What people will say for attention.

Pat Robertson's pathetic. Who listens anymore?


Pat Robertson; Repeating his 9/11 opinion about New York.

And this man is worshiped like a little tin god by the fundy/con/xtians.

Perhaps the 'pact with the devil' that Pat refers to was the Spanish Conquest/Catholic/Christian slavery/genocide perpetrated on the unsuspecting 'Indians'??

Frankly, Pat R., a money grubbing demagog, has no moral ground on which to base his idiotic statement.


I can understand from many of the comments that most of you do not have a real understanding of God's word or a bit of spiritual discernment. Some Christians in that area are aware of the account of their history that Pat Robertson was mentioning on his show.


Regarding Mr. P.Robertson's comments;who exactly has made a pact with the devil?


Haiti has always been plagued with poverty, suffering and corruption. Money donated ends up in corrupt pockets instead of reaching the people. Haiti should be a tropical paradise and tourist spot with all the money that has been given to it over the years. As for Pat Robertson, he was just stating what many believe about a curse being upon Haiti, probably even the Haitians themselves believe that.

"press release
Statement Regarding Pat Robertson's Comments on Haiti

CBN.com – VIRGINIA BEACH, Va., January 13, 2010 -- On today’s The 700 Club, during a segment about the devastation, suffering and humanitarian effort that is needed in Haiti, Dr. Robertson also spoke about Haiti’s history. His comments were based on the widely-discussed 1791 slave rebellion led by Boukman Dutty at Bois Caiman, where the slaves allegedly made a famous pact with the devil in exchange for victory over the French. This history, combined with the horrible state of the country, has led countless scholars and religious figures over the centuries to believe the country is cursed. Dr. Robertson never stated that the earthquake was God’s wrath. If you watch the entire video segment, Dr. Robertson’s compassion for the people of Haiti is clear. He called for prayer for them. His humanitarian arm has been working to help thousands of people in Haiti over the last year, and they are currently launching a major relief and recovery effort to help the victims of this disaster. They have sent a shipment of millions of dollars worth of medications that is now in Haiti, and their disaster team leaders are expected to arrive tomorrow and begin operations to ease the suffering.

Chris Roslan
Spokesman for CBN"


has nayone here looked into the financial info on robertson? perhaps you should you would see just how much money this guy has and also that he OWNS diamond mines and everyone knows about the type of conditions the miners work in. i know you will not believe this but go look for yourself. its anywhere on the internet. these bible thumpers who are always begging for money are millionaires because foolish people who work hard for thier money send it to them and all they do is live a high life on tax free monies. hey you supposed religious leaders, how about helping the poor and miserable and homeless like God has told us too? remeber the part of the bible that says it is easier to get a camel thru the eye of a needle than a rich man to get to heaven? oh perhaps your forgot to find that part when you were looking to twist words to suit your selfish pocket lining nonsense you spew


What's amazing to me is that most of you people can't think or comment without it being something political.


Things I know:

1) Pat Robertson is an idiot

2) Anyone who takes him seriously long enough to try to brand good God-fearing Christians as being of his ilk is an idiot.

3) Pat Robertson was NOT a serious contender for the Republican nomination, if you take serious as getting more than 1% of the votes. If that is your standard then Al Sharpton was a serious contender for the Democratic nomination.

Things I would like to know

1) Why did the trib run that story? What purpose was served?

2) Why did the author lack the integrity to print the ENTIRE remark and THEN pick on it instead of just extracting what he knew looked good? Context, context.

"If it bleeds it leads" chapter 59?

LibTribDrib @ 4:56 p.m. - well said.


Wright is black (duh,)
so enlighten me, what in the world has it to do with him stating "god damn America".
That's what he is teaching today, HATE, correct? I always thought a rev's job was to bring the good out of people, not the bad. In my religious institution we always say
a prayer for THIS country. We pray that our chosen leaders make the right choices.
But never have I heard the guys running it throw the USA under the bus. Never.


Posted by: wingnut master | January 14, 2010 3:58 PM
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You obviously have never watched this entire sermon. Only the GD America! portion served to you by your FOX masters. Rev. Wright was rattling off a list of ways in which the black community has been oppressed since they were forced to migrat to America during the Colonial days. He said a few crazy things but he was damning a God that would allow racism to exist in America. I agree with this. I do not agree that the Gubment introduced AIDS or crack to black communities but I still stand with Rev. Wright and damn any God who would allow racism to exist. You on the other hand don't seem to mind America's racist past. That's why you look back at America with pride. I know you'll say things are better here than anywhere else but I want America to be great and when mistakes are made you call them out. You don't protect it like the miserable parents who think their children can do know wrong. Seriously though, eff you.


Why exactly is anyone surprised or shocked that a Christian would see voodooism as a pact with the Devil?

Even so, Silva has gone out his way to take the remarks out of context. He says, "This isn't the first time Robertson has linked natural disasters and terrorism to the wrath of God." Actually Pat Robertson did not make such a claim this time, as Silva quotes in the 5th paragraph.

Disinformation?


“Pat Robertson; Repeating his 9/11 opinion about New York.
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And this man is worshiped like a little tin god by the fundy/con/xtians.”

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Posted by: C.Morris✧ | January 14, 2010 9:03 PM
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NO, he is NOT worshipped by fundamentalist conservative Christians. Christians do not worship other human beings.
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In the second place, you are suffering from the misperception that Pat Robertson has a lot of power and influence over fundamentalist conservative Christians. He really doesn’t. He has absolutely no official status in any church, organized or otherwise. His prior, official church affiliations ended when he entered the political arena back in 1987.
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And, no, he wasn’t much of a political figure either. In his one and only run for President he dropped out of the race after a few primaries. He was no one’s nominee for President, and he didn’t run in the general election as an independent. To say he has any special political status because he once ran for President would be like saying that Dennis Kucinich is a Democrat super-power because he routinely runs for President. You know that dog don’t hunt.
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Basically, Pat Robertson is a wealthy, self-funded talking head who talks too much. He has been known to say some rather unbiblical and unspiritual stuff that makes evangelical fundamentalist Christians cringe. His latest comment about Haiti’s curse from a “pact with the devil” is just his latest example of that. His advocacy for the assassination of Hugo Chavez was another. So please stop judging fundamentalist conservative Christians by everything Pat Robertson says. It is neither fair nor accurate to do so.


Many historians doubt that this urban legend even occurred. Inevitably a story like that had to have been made to justify the unfortunate history of Haiti and all the terrible things that have happened in that country. It would've been even more strange if an urban legend hadn't been made up after all that had happened. Pat Robertson believed this urban legend, as many others do also, because he doesn't believe in coincidence. Most religious people believe that everything happens because of God or Satan. Placing blame on others to justify unfortunate occurrences (Satan's wrath) has been going on for centuries, most famously noted in the Salem Witch Trials. As long as people believe in Satan and God and heaven and hell, this nonsense will continue.


So please stop judging fundamentalist conservative Christians by everything Pat Robertson says. It is neither fair nor accurate to do so.

Posted by: John W. | January 15, 2010 1:22 PM

Ya right.


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Posted by: Tim Green, Fairfield CT | January 15, 2010 2:38 PM
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If you have something to say, Mister, then say it. Don’t just snark and run.


You Fundies are wacko. Why do you hate humanity? Why do you waste your time on scumbags like this? Why do you send him your $. Why do you believe THE LIE.


If you have something to say, Mister, then say it. Don’t just snark and run.

Posted by: John W. | January 15, 2010 3:10 PM

Ok John. Mr Robertson reaches an average of one million American viewers daily. So would it be fair to say that there are 1 million fools who listen to his irresponsible distortions of the Bible and take his word seriously?
I dont deny that he distributes millions to charities at all. What I find offensive is his misrepresentation and delivery and insinuations that most of those 1 million people are uneducated enough to believe!
What purpose did he have to say such a stupid thing knowing very well that his followers would misinterpret it into exactly what he wanted them to? His foolish manipulations are offensive and baiting.


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Posted by: Tim Green, Fairfield CT | January 15, 2010 7:14 PM
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Tim,
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I think you misunderstood what I said.
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I TOTALLY agree with you. Pat Robertson’s statement about Haiti was un-scriptural and un-spiritual for numerous reasons. And, yes, it was stupid, offensive and un-Christian too. You and I do not disagree on this.
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The point I was trying to make (at the very last) was that many Christian fundamentalists do NOT agree with Pat Robertson either. You don’t see fundamentalist ministers like Rick Warren coming to Robertson’s defense, do you? To the contrary, two well known fundamentalist ministers have described Robertson’s comments as “arrogant” and “ignorant.” See http://www.christianpost.com/article/20100114/theologian-robertson-is-arrogant-ignorant-for-haiti-curse-remark/pageall.html . I especially liked the comments by Dr. R. Albert Mohler Jr. where he said, “The cross of Christ declares that Jesus loves Haiti - and the Haitian people are the objects of his love,” and “Christ would have us show the Haitian nation his love, and share his Gospel.” I know many fundamentalists would stand behind Mohler’s statements rather than Robertson’s. It is, therefore, not fair to lump all fundamentalists into the same pile in which Robertson is wallowing.
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BTW – I wouldn’t necessarily say that Pat Robertson’s television audience is comprised of fools. I wouldn’t judge them at all. Some are just hungry for some simple religious programming - and there is little else on TV. I wouldn’t assume all of them would necessarily agree with what Robertson said - especially after all the flak he has taken. I would also assume there are a few insomniacs who watch his show in those regions where it comes on late at night (like where I live). [And, no, I don’t watch his show. I routinely surf right past it if I’m watching TV.]


Mr. Robertsons comments are clear and based on facts . Hard to understand reactions without background knowledge.


Posted by: John W. | January 15, 2010 10:52 PM

Well said!

Posted by: Dan Cohen | January 16, 2010 9:24 AM

I guess you"re one of the minions who take his word as true scripture. Your loss indeed.


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