Don't ask, don't tell: Admiral for repeal: The Swamp
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Chicago Tribune

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff supports lifting ban on gay service.

Posted February 2, 2010 1:00 PM
The Swamp

by Julian E. Barnes

The nation's top uniformed officer said today that he supports allowing gays to serve openly the military, providing a powerful voice of support for President Obama call to lift the legal ban on their service.

Launching a formal process to change the longstanding policy, the Pentagon also announced a review that will examine the effects of a policy change along with alterations in military benefits, rules and facilities might be needed to allow gays to serve openly in the armed forces.

The review could take up to a year, and will fuel concerns among advocates for gay service members that any change will be slow in coming about.

Admiral Michael G. Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in an appearance before the Senate Armed Services Committee that the military still needs to conduct a review to determine how to prepare for a dramatic policy change. Nonetheless, he said his personal views were firm.

"Speaking for myself and myself only, it is my personal belief that allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly would be the right thing to do," Mullen said.

Mullen's views are particularly important in the debate. It was one of his predecessors in the post of Joint Chiefs chairman, Gen. Colin L. Powell, who played a major role in the 1990s in derailing then-President Clinton's failed bid to allow gays to serve openly in the military.

In 1993, Powell called the "don't ask, don't tell" policy a "healthy compromise." But in December 2008, said the ban on gays serving openly should be reviewed.

At today's Senate hearing, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates announced that a high-level working group of military and Pentagon officials would develop a plan on how to best implement a change in policy.

Gates did not take any immediate action to change how the current law is enforced, although he said he intended to make some changes in the next 45 days.

"The question before us is not whether the military prepares to make this change, but how we best prepare for it. We have received our orders from the commander-in-chief and we are moving out accordingly," Gates said. "However, we also can only take this process so far as the ultimate decision rests with you, the Congress."

Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.), chairman of the Armed Services Committee, supports ending the ban. But Sen. John McCain of Arizona, the panel's ranking Republican, endorsed "don't ask, don't tell" as "imperfect, but effective."

"Numerous military leaders tell me that 'don't ask, don't tell' is working and we shouldn't change it now," McCain said.

Mullen is the first sitting Joint Chiefs chairman ever to endorse repeal of the ban.

Mullen's predecessor, Marine Gen. Peter Pace, publically opposed lifting the ban and called homosexuality immoral.

But attitudes within the military have been shifting, particularly among younger service members but also with more senior officers. In 2007, retired Army Gen. John M. Shalikashvili, a onetime Joint Chiefs chairman, announced he would support allowing gays to serve, although he was long retired when he adopted that position.

Gates said the review will be conducted without "preconceived views, but a recognition that this will represent a fundamental change in personnel policy." Gates said the team would work to ensure the change could be made with minimal disruption to the military's work.

The "don't ask, don't tell" policy was enacted into law in 1993 and allowed gays to serve in the military, but only if they do not reveal their sexual orientation and only if no one learns of it and makes a complaint. Hundreds of service members are discharged each year for violating the policy.

Mullen said the Joint Chiefs understood Obama's desire to overturn the ban and were developing advice for the White House on how such a policy change could be implemented. Mullen said he had made up his own mind that the law needs to change.

"No matter how I look at the issue, I cannot escape being troubled by the fact that we have in place a policy which forces young men and women to lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens," he said.

Jeh Johnson, the Pentagon general counsel, and Gen. Carter Ham, the commander of U.S. Army forces in Europe, will lead the Defense Department review on how to implement a change in the policy.

One question the review will address is how to handle concerns about lifting the ban while the military is in the midst of fighting two wars, Mullen said.

"The Chiefs and I also recognize the stress our troops and families are under, and I have said many times before -- should the law change -- we need to move forward in a manner that does not add to that stress," Mullen said.

Mullen has been chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, a group comprising the top uniformed officers in the Army, Marines, Air Force and Navy, since 2007. Throughout his tenure, he has emphasized the importance of providing honest military advice to the president while also saying military officials must follow the will of political leaders. He touched on that theme Tuesday.

"We will continue to obey that law, and we will obey whatever legislative and executive decisions come out of this debate," Mullen said.

Gates said he understood some advocates for gays might be frustrated with the long review period, but said the Pentagon needed the time to help minimize disruption and talk to service members about the change.

"An important part of this process is to engage our men and women in uniform and their families over this period since, after all, they will ultimately determine whether or not we make this transition successfully," Gates said.

Gay rights groups and veterans organizations that have advocated a repeal of the ban have pushed the Pentagon act immediately to change how the current law is enforced.

Under current policy, accusations that a service member is gay can trigger an investigation and lead to discharge. There are few restrictions on who can accuse a service member of being gay. Opponents of the law want to make it more difficult to file a complaint against a gay member of the military who attempts to hide his or her sexual orientation.

Some have suggested only senior officers should be allowed to make such a charge, while others have said no one outside a service member's chain of command should be able to level a formal accusation.

Last year, Gates had said he would review how to enforce the police in a more "fair and humane manner" But he has taken no action to change the rule.

Gates said today that he believes the Pentagon has "a degree of latitude" to change the internal procedures. But he any new rules would await the outcome of a 45 day assessment.

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Admiral Mullen:

"No matter how I look at the issue, I cannot escape being troubled by the fact that we have in place a policy which forces young men and women to lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens," he said.

So why is this going to take a year?


If the Republican haters really cared about this nation they wouldn't let their bigotry and hatred for gay people stand in the way of our security.


Since 1993, it is estimated that 13,000 gay men and women have been thrown out of the military under Don't Ask, Don't Tell.


But I think there is one group of gay men and women who have been tossed out on their backsides that I find the most irritating. And that group consists of those men and women who are foreign language translators, particulalry those who speak Arabic, Farsi, Hindi, etc.


In recent years, the military has let so many of these translators go - and they are the very one's our military needs. Without understanding what our enemies are saying, how does the military know what the heck is going on with their intelligence?


And check this out - as we constantly let more amd more of these fine folks go, the government continues to scower the countryside looking for the very same type of individuals they continually let go under Don't Ask, Don't Tell. And CraigsList tells the story in their job postings:
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/gov/1554399585.html
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From coast to coast the government and private companies who supply translators to Homeland Security and the Justice Department are searching for translators. These folks are in high demand so it makes no sense for the military to let these individuals go. This policy is just plain stupud and needs to stop.



Pres Obama has laid the groundwork for this in advance. It was Bill Clinton's ham-handed approach to integrating gays into the military which spawned this abominable law.


Society has made great strides in showing increased respect for people's personal identities, it's time for DOD to get with it. Change is definitely coming, whether the right wing Teabagger cretins like it or not.



Clinton's ham-handed approach to integrating gays into the military which spawned this abominable law.

Posted by: Elise | February 2, 2010 3:42 PM

Just a little reminder that this was Clintons compromise to the then republican controlled congress that under no circumstances would allow gays to serve openly. At least Clinton tried!


From someone who has always had a fairly positive view of McCain, I'm pretty disappointed in him. For me, this is kind of the last straw in my view of him. The first one was selecting Sarah Palin as his running mate.

I appreciate the Admiral's expression of his views on DADT. I am a religious social conservative who can appreciate his comments about integrity. I can see no moral reason to prohibit someone from serving on the basis of their sexual orientation.

A religious teaching should not form policy for a body that serves the government that is supposed to by the people, for the people and of the people with a constitutionally mandated separation of church and state.


I tried to get out of the Vietnam draft by claiming homosexuality. I was classified 1A. The draft board said I had to get proof from a doctor. I had been in therapy and released my transcripts to them. The psychiatrist affirmed that I was gay. They said there was nothing that proved that I had ever had a homosexual encounter. Still 1A. They drafted me.

Times have really changed. Back then you couldn't get OUT of military service for being gay. Now you can't get IN.


"Don't Ask, Don't Tell"


Who gets to be a member of the military?
Does homosexuality equal immorality?
It was a bad idea to institute this ban
Lie to conceal our orientation

The time has come to review
You don’t have a right to exclude
Most young people simply don’t care
So why must Gays lie to their peers?

Concerned and anxious about this change
Besides, can you define “openness?”
It’s not a Pink Military or a Gay Pride float
It doesn’t hurt units or the people I know

Policy based on nothing – prejudice and fear
What we think really matters
Let’s talk about what the military means
And a roadmap for lifting this ban

Society shouldn’t impose this on us
Admirals, Generals are out of touch
Does it mean being anti-gay?
It’s past its time of necessity


BO sounded so forceful on this issue in his SOTU. So forceful that he is going to . . . order a year long study. Well, he could have done that a year ago. It's not like this idea just recently popped into his head. He campaigned on it. This sounds to me like big talk, but when it comes to action, kick the can down the road.

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It doesn't matter to BO. He is no idealist. He cares about his own political future. As long as the perception is there that he is fighting for this, he doesn't have to stick his neck out and actually do anything. Heck, unions still think he is fighting for them with the card check bill. As long as homosexuals also think he is fighting for them, their vote will stay in his pocket, and that is all that matters to BO.


As long as gays are excluded from the benefits of military salary, pension, education, VA hospitals and loans, etc., there should be a tax break for gays. You can't expect someone to be taxed for their own exclusion.

Either that or homosexuality should once again be considered a mental disease and all gays should be alowed to collect disability payments.


Hope you’ll listen to my radio show on homosexuals in the military.Comments welcome.

http://www.theamericanview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4140

John Lofton, Editor, TheAmericanView.com
Communications Director, Institute on the Constitution
Host, “TheAmericanView” radio show
Recovering Republican
JLof@aol.com


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