Durbin: Healthcare on course, 'of course': The Swamp
The Swamp
Chicago Tribune

Democrats will work with the GOP, he says, but won't let them stop the bill.

Posted February 24, 2010 5:30 PM
The Swamp

by Mark Silva

Sen. Dick Durbin, the majority whip of the Senate, insists that finding a common ground with Republicans on healthcare still is possible -- on the eve of a bipartisan healthcare summit in Washington -- but Democrats are prepared to move ahead with the president's proposed reforms, regardless of what Republicans do.

"Of course we are,'' Durbin (D-Ill.) says in an interview with National Public Radio's Morning Edition that will air tomorrow morning.

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NPR's Steve Inskeep asks Durbin, one of President Barack Obama's strongest supporters and political mentors: "Are you willing to say flat out, 'Democrats are willing to pass this bill that most Americans tell pollsters they oppose, even without a single Republican vote. We're prepared to do that, if that's what's necessary?'

"I hope it doesn't come to that,'' Durbin replies in the interview, "but I can tell you, at the end of the day, if we end up doing nothing, the American people have a right to be upset. In the end, many of those who are critical of that package, I think when they see it in action are going to feel a lot different, more positive.''

"You hope it doesn't come to that,'' Inskeep tells the No. 2 Senate leader in their talk, "but part of the negotiation with Republicans would be that you would be prepared to go without them, if they don't go along. Are you prepared to go without them and just pass this, even though people seem to oppose it?'

"Of course we are,'' Durbin says. "You know the simple fact of the matter is, with the exception of Sen. Snowe voting for one form of the bill in committee, there's not been a single Republican senator who has voted for health care reform. Ah, they just haven't come around. Maybe this meeting with the president will make a difference.''

The interview airs in the morning -- with excerpts available tonight at NPR's The Two Way blog -- as the president prepares to assemble a cast of Democratic and Republican lawmakers at Blair House, the official visitors' residence across the street from the White House, for a summit on the way forward.

The meeting will be televised live by a number of cable TV networks, and The Swamp will be live-blogging the event, which starts at 10 am EST.

(Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) and President Barack Obama, allies from Illinois and allies on healthcare, pictured above in a file photo by AP.)

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Actually, the best arguments against Senator Durbin, and in favor of the filibuster were made by--Barack Obama. Who in 2005 couldn't say enough good things about it. He and his fellow Democrats are all caught on tape, which anyone (even journalists) can see at http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-dems-in-2005-51-vote-nuclear-option-is-arrogant-power-grab-against-the-founders-intent/


The health care summit is going to be GREAT!!!


It's going to show everyone exactly how little the Repugs give a damn about health care reform and how much they want Americans to continue to get rear-ended by their pals in the Corporate Health Insurance Industry.



BOEHNER DEMANDS THAT PRES OBAMA TELEVISE THE HEALTH CARE DEBATE - THEN HE CRIES ABOUT IT WHEN PRES OBAMA DECIDES TO TELEVISE THE HEALTH CARE DEBATE!!!


"After slamming the Obama administration for "secret deliberations" and going back on his campaign promise to televise the health care debate, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) criticized the President yesterday for televising the bipartisan health care summit on Feb. 25, asking "is this a political event or is this going to be a real conversation?"


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http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/boehner-how-dare-obama-televise-the-health-care-debate-after-i-demanded-he-televise-the-health-care.php
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Health care reform (just like Medicare and Social Security before it) is going to destroy what's left of the Republican party for at least a generation.


The Republican party doesn't oppose Health Care Reform because they think it's bad, they oppose it because they know Americans will like it and they'll like the people (Democrats) who got it passed for them.



Republican Congressman who oppose universal health insurance should immediately relinquish their federal health insurance. After all, these members of Congress have long enjoyed taxpayer-funded health insurance, a privilege that they apparently believe tens of millions of working, uninsured Americans and their families don't deserve.


If Republicans don't think being uninsured is a big deal, then they should go right ahead and try it out. And if they really believe a public plan is such a bad option, maybe they can persuade their parents to give up Medicare too.


The Party of No is about to start shoveling the do-do, so America, put on your hipsters and get ready to wade through their lies, distortions and our money, that they are using against us, to prevent every American from having meaningful healthcare.


For 6 of the last 9 years the Repubs had complete control of everything. My insurance premiums doubled in that time span. I don't give a rats arse what that Republipuke party thinks or wants. Their only motivation is to protect the insurance companies and corporate America.


UP OR DOWN VOTE!!!


WAPO POLL: TWO THIRDS OF VOTERS SAY SCREW REPUBLICANS AND PASS COMPREHENSIVE HEATH CARE REFORM!!!


Obama and Congressional leaders will head into the healthcare summit (which Eric Cantor has agreed to) with some good polling backing them up for finishing the job, even without Republicans.


"Americans spread the blame when it comes to the lack of cooperation in Washington, and, in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, most want the two sides to keep working to pass comprehensive health-care reform. Nearly six in 10 in the new poll say the Republicans aren't doing enough to forge compromise with President Obama on important issues; more than four in 10 see Obama as doing too little to get GOP support. Among independents, 56 percent see the Republicans in Congress as too unbending and 50 percent say so of the president; 28 percent of independents say both sides are doing too little to find agreement."
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http://voices.washingtonpost.com/behind-the-numbers/2010/02/americans_spread_the_blame_whe.html
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WaPo can call that "spreading the blame," but with 58 percent saying the Republicans are resisting compromise, the summit can provide much needed clarity on where the hold up remains. At the same time, healthcare reform can't fail--this summit can't be used as an attempt to shift the blame to the Republicans and set up a failure. Too many people are counting on reform.


Look at that graph--63 percent want comprehensive reform to pass, and more Independents want to see it pass than Republicans want to see it fail. But a note of caution, while the blame is primarily falling on Republicans now, ultimately the blame will be shared if it fails, and the bulk of it would fall on Obama and the Dems, since they are in charge.



Mr. Durbin your time is coming too - maybe not as soon as many of your useless brethren but it is coming.

Will you don a "wife Btr" t-shirt and ab#se your wife once you are out of a job? Harry Reid says you will.

I can't wait to vote agianst you and send what little money I will have left to your opponent.


I saw the below video and it is just plain hilarious to see them give these sermons about not using reconciliation as they are now planning to do. It will fail but it will also seal their fates

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Actually, the best arguments against Senator Durbin, and in favor of the filibuster were made by--Barack Obama. Who in 2005 couldn't say enough good things about it. He and his fellow Democrats are all caught on tape, which anyone (even journalists) can see at http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-dems-in-2005-51-vote-nuclear-option-is-arrogant-power-grab-against-the-founders-intent/

Posted by: It's there for everybody to see | February 24, 2010 5:36 PM


They d--ked around waiting for Franken to be seated.

They d--ked around for Burris to be seated.


They d--ked around and screwed up the Kennedy succession.


Waiting for the 60 votes that never were.


So now it's time to play marbles for keeps rather than for fun.


Start with some Viagra for the Dems in the Senate. Might help.


The talking point "rushed through, not enough consideration, need to start all over again" won't wash now, will it? Never would wash, in fact.


Better pass a public option bill now.


Otherwise the Replicans will be able to use Harry Truman's "Do Nothing Congress" against the party in the White House.


Social security-medicare-police & fire protection-municipal waste treatment and water-libraries-public schools-FDA-special assessments-road taxes So which one of these "evil" socialistic programs do Rethuglicans hate the most?


If America can $pend 3 trillion on wars, America can help it's own with health care.


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http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-february-22-2010/rage-within-the-machine---progressivism
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Yes, and on the eve of the dog and pony show comes yet another poll saying ... 73 percent of Americans say, start over.

Most say do something, but don't do this. (And yes, that includes democrats!)

This whole thing is a debacle. Start over. Do it right, not do it Obama's way.

Here's a link: http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/24/happy-summit-eve-73-say-congress-should-stop-work-or-start-over-on-obamacare/


The best thing you can do, Durbin, for the American people is scrap this crap and start over with a bi-partisan bill, or you'll be throwing your party under the bus come Nov.


Our health care system is disintegrating. Today, 46 million people have no health insurance and even more are underinsured with high deductibles and co-payments. At a time when 60 million people, including many with insurance, do not have access to a medical home, more than 18,000 Americans die every year from preventable illnesses because they do not get to the doctor when they should. This is six times the number who died at the tragedy of 9/11 - but this occurs every year.


In the midst of this horrendous lack of coverage, the U.S. spends far more per capita on health care than any other nation - and health care costs continue to soar. At $2.4 trillion dollars, and 18 percent of our GDP, the skyrocketing cost of health care in this country is unsustainable both from a personal and macro-economic perspective.


It always makes me laugh when I hear people say they want to preserve "insurance choice" in this country. What choice do you have when you work and are nominally "insured," but your insurance coverage doesn't pay for anything you need? Are you then going to have the ability to run out and purchase extra coverage on the wages you make? Well, I guess you have the "choice" to rob a bank or maybe win the lottery to pay for it, but that's about it.


Republicans and their rich oligarchy supporters (Healthcare CEO's and Lobbyists) will do anything to kill a good healthcare bill because they know people will like it and when that happens their electoral goose will be cooked for generations - if it's not already.



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The best thing you can do, Durbin, for the American people is scrap this crap and start over with a bi-partisan bill, or you'll be throwing your party under the bus come Nov.

Posted by: MAJMark | February 24, 2010 7:43 PM
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Private Mark,
Democrats have been campaigning on health care reform for over two years now, they aren't going to "start over" just so the Repigs can take another stab at killing health care reform and destroying the hopes of the millions of people who are dying because they can't afford it.


And by the way, before you go dancing in end zone claiming that the Repigs are going to be the majority party this fall, I've got news for you - you're not. Even Michael Steele understands that.
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http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/michael-steele-says-republicans-are-not
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It would seem fairly easy to pass a healthcare bill that the American people actually want, now wouldn't it? Gee, I wonder why these brave Democrats who have the majority and the presidency can't seem to muster up enough intestinal fortitude to vote for the piece of Crap legislation that they have before them? Ya think it might be because they know that everybody really hates the bill? Nah, that couldn't be it now could it liberal geniuses.


Health insurance is a racket, run by racketeers! They should all be put behind bars like Madoff! Company's should not be allowed these exhorbitant profits off of peoples health problems. The insurance company dictates whether you will recieve the proceedure, will get insurance, or how much treatment you will be intitled to. This country is screwed, until the health insurance company's are put out of business. Sell me accident, auto, life or property insurance not health insurance. Republicans and their idiot Teabagger shills can all go and get f@#$ed. They all are creating a monsterous windfall for the health insurance industry!



101,000 Americans die UNNECESSARILY each year because of lack of access to basic medical care that they would get in most other industrialized nations.
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http://www.commonwealthfund.org/Content/Publications/In-the-Literature/2008/Jan/Measuring-the-Health-of-Nations--Updating-an-Earlier-Analysis.aspx


And believe me, if there were any polls favorable to the Republican cause of denying healthcare to everyone, the Republican minions would be linking to them all day long. Instead, all they have is a handfull of anecdotes that they get from Druggy Rush and that clown Glenn Beck etc.



@ It's there for everybody to see
The president was talking about the “nuclear option, which would have ended the filibuster.
The GOP has every right to filibuster the current health care bill if it comes back to the Senate. By the same token, the Democrats have every right to use reconciliation to move their plan forward. Both of these procedures are within the rules of the Senate. I hope this clears things up for you.


The Democrats need this bill now.
They need the instant tax hike, and as the plan goes, tax for years, benefits kick in later...
Well, by the time the benefits are supposed to begin, all the money will have been spent.
This Bi-partisan meeting is not a debate.
Obama hand picked the invitation list and will control the floor.
The Democrats are just going to state their case and go Nuclear, and really quick.
They will say " Those Republicans, we tried everything we could, but they just won't budge a bit, they are the party of no, so we shall just have to do this without them"
Well...we don't want to compromise our States rights, our own rights, our health and our money.
Government has no business in business, and no idea how to run anything.
And I wouldn't trust the government with a nickle, They want to tax us for hundreds of billions of dollars and expect us to believe that they won't just blow it?
Just think...Politician...hundreds of billions of taxpayers dollars...same room...nobody watching...
Oh yeah! no worries!! It's safe, we won't touch it, reeeely!
You have got to be kidding.


Doesn't Durbin have some troops to go insult? Maybe he just needs to go back to his roomie Chuckie.

When has the gov't ever run a social program that has met the customers' needs and come in under budget? Social Security? NOPE. Medicare? NOPE. Medicaid? NOPE. Education? Fannie and Freddie? DOUBLE NOPE.

Why expect different?

This trillion in taxes and savings that BO is proposing to pay for the health care, why doesn't he use these same dollars and start paying down the deficit? Reason is, he doesn't care about the deficit or the debt. That is some mess his daughters will have to deal with.


Obama's plan will pass ....but...VOTE!!!


HELP US SAVE THE WEALTHY INSURANCE COMPANIES!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnBx1B2Hz_w
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Durbin is a pro-abortion Catholic. is that possible?
Catolic Church outlaws abortion, therefore that makes Durbin a n outlaw Catholic.

are any of those gay Catokic bishops paying attention.

did Durbin abort his own children?


GOPer's lie as a matter of routine....


For example, they get themselves booked on every Sunday talk show every single week and say they are fighting against HCR because they are representing the people. They claim HCR is wildly unpopular and they are only following the people's will.


It's a lie. Go to www.pollingreport.com and check out the healthcare section. Each component of HCR is wildly POPULAR. Both the recent Newsweek and Kaiser polls show that overwhelming majorities want an exchange to provide competition, and majorities also favor a public option.


Oh, but HCR legislation has been rejected by the people. So say the GOPers liars....
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http://www.pollingreport.com/health.htm#C
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GOPer's are scum, evil, and subhuman



None of you clowns mention the fact the democrats have NEVER needed a single Repub vote to pass this. They had super majorites as in no fillibuster no nothing. But they argued amongst THEMSELVES . But now that Scott Brown won they now have to have a summit.

And EVERY single liberal blogger who posted here darn well knowns all this but they are such jurks they still try to SPIN it anyway?

jerks.


REPUBLICAN TIM PAWLENTY'S SOLUTION TO HEALTH CARE REFORM COSTS: "JUST LET EMERGENCY ROOM'S REFUSE PATIENTS"!!!


Yeah, policy-making is easy if you're a Republican. You just ignore reality.


Appearing on Fox News's "On the Record with Greta Van Sustren" last night, Republican Tim Pawlenty said the federal law that mandates Emerceny Room treatment should be repealed.


"Well, for one thing you could do is change the federal law so that not every Emergency Room is required to treat everybody who comes in the door, even if they have a minor condition," Pawlenty said. "They should be -- if you have a minor condition, instead of being at the really expensive Emergency Room, you should be at the primary care clinic."
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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/83113-pawlenty-let-ers-turn-away-patients-to-cut-costs
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For the record, federal law actually only requires Emergency Room's to provide treatment except for in real medical emergencies. They already can turn you away for minor conditions. So not only does Pawlenty not understand the real healthcare system crisis, he doesn't even understand current law.
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http://www.insure.com/articles/healthinsurance/emergency-rights.html
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Yeah, Pawlenty's pretty much right up there with Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney as 2012 Republican presidential nominee material, they're all a joke.



UP OR DOWN VOTE!


Still don't believe any of those polls...WaPo, and who the heck is HotAir? Polls depend on who you talk to. One day it could be republican light, the next democrat or libertarian light and independent heavy. I've noticed if it is a Republican poll such as something Fox "News" runs, answers are skewed to show their stance on the subject and vice versa for Democrats.It also depends on how the questions are asked which also can skew results.


That's what the healthcare Corporations said in 1907. Let's start over and we have been starting over, ever since. Meanwhile, like our Bankers, those fine, up-standing members of our communities, the Healthcare CEOs and Corporations are taking America to the cleaners. I hope we, Americans, are finally get tired and getting familiar with their usual stall tactics. Starting over is not an option.Too man Americans are dying, due to no healthcare coverage, or over-priced, under-seviced policies these thieves are foisting on the sick and the elderly in America !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.


"The support/opposition split on the [Democrat] health care bill, according to various pollsters:

Rasmussen: 41/56
Newsweek: 40/49
Public Policy Polling: 39/50
Pew: 38/50
Quinnipiac: 35/54
Ipsos/McClatchy: 37/51
NBC/WSJ: 31/46
CNN: 38/58
NPR: 39/55

Through the reconciliation talk, President Obama, Speaker Pelosi, and Senate Majority Leader Reid are sending a very important message to the American people: Shut up." [NRO]


DONNIEBOY SKITZGERALD, THIS ONE'S FOR YOU!!!!!

The NY Times not updating its 'Casualties of War' page

During the Iraq War and when the New YorkTimes was actively campaigning for Barack Obama, Grey Lady readers were subjected to a military service obituary entitled Faces of the Dead. Daily, readers were forced to "face" the grim reality that young American soldiers were prematurely dying in Iraq. The content of the site focused on poignant stories juxtaposed against the backdrop of what liberals argued was an unjust war.

In May of 2009, around the same time Obama decided a troop surge was necessary in Afghanistan,the NY Times death inventory came to an abrupt halt. To date, eight-months after the first major wave of new troops were ordered by Barack Obama into Afghanistan,Casualties of War has not been up-dated to include Afghan surge fatalities

. . . readers may be interested to know that the seven years and four months preceding Obama's eight-month surge, seven deaths per month took place. However, in eight months those figures grew to almost 39 deaths per month, which corresponds to a 450% increase in military lives lost.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/02/the_ny_times_not_updating_its.html


I say let the loony liberals pushed the button on the nuclear option. First the bill will never make it out of the courts before the midterms. By that time the Liberals will have lost control of Congress. And two years after that they will lose the White House. And if you think it cannot happen it already has. People who are too stupid to know their history are ignorant enough to repeat it. I believe if the lunatic fringe uses the nuclear option that will actually be the end of the Democrat party as we know it. And by the 2020 presidential election they will not even have a candidate running. Like I said it has happened before and it can happen again.


Well, Senator Durbin,(D-IL), has my vote and any help that I can give him, in his re-election bid. He has earned it. He has worked tirelessly for our Democratic Party and for America. Keep up the good work, Senator Durbin.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.


Sen.Durbin, your days in Washington are numbered. You and the rest of your arrogant party are in for a mass layoff come 2010. While your term may not be up in 2010, non the less this will be your last term. Healthcare is on everyones mind, but the entire system is not broke. So, fix what is wrong, like tort reform, outrageous judgements, being able to buy insurance across state lines, and one or two other components and we will have a
healthcare plan that works. And it won't cost $2+ trillion tax dollars.


GOP Generational Theft by Deception Evil Doers Speak! Now all together! YOU LIE! YOU LIE! Brown skin, brown eye Obama brown skin, brown eye! YOU LIE! Just kill this bill! Just scrap this bill! No Healthcare for you! No Healthcare for her! We want "attestaments" We want "attestaments." It was always about "civil rights." It was always about "Private Equity Social Security Accounts' Offshore! It was always about stall, stall, obstruct! Obstrust! YOU LIE! YOU LIE! Sarah is the EVE in EEVS and we're the REAL ID! No Healthcare for you! Just death! Just stall, stall, stall! Sarah is coming! Glenn is coming! She's the EVE in EEVS! It's always been about "civil rights." Just ours, not yours!


Durbin knows he has less than three years left before he is kicked to the curb. But by that time he will be in the minority. So go right ahead and pushed the button on the nuclear option. It seems like a lot of incumbent Democrats at all levels are going to be voted out of office this year but by using the nuclear option you just make it that much easier. I look at two different respectable and unbiased polling sites in both they had the majority with over 55% wanting the current bill scrapped. And please you loony liberals did not start whining about the majority wanting reform we already know that. It's just that the current bill is not reform and people that thank and work know this. They do not need to go to the DNC's website put up just so the loony liberals know what to say when they call into a talk radio program, how pathetic is that.

Roger Morris

Your just one more example of why liberals only account for 1/5 of the voters. And apparently that may be going even lower.


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