by Mark Silva
There's been so much attention focused on President Barack Obama's continuing call on Congress to enact the health-care reforms that leaders have debated for months that it is worth noting when the president himself suggests that maybe he cannot win.
Last night, at a fundraiser for the Democratic National Committee, a question about healthcare was relayed to the president from "a dedicated community organizer'' in Wisconsin during a question-and-answer session: "What is the strategy to move it forward?''
"It's a good question,'' the president replied at the Capital Hilton, one of two events that raised between $2 million and $3 million for the party. "We are closer to a health care reform system that works for all Americans than we have ever been. Never before have you seen a bill pass through the House and then a bill pass through the Senate and where 90 percent of those bills -- those two bills overlap...
"The next step is what I announced at the State of the Union, which is to call on our Republican friends to present their ideas. What I'd like to do is have a meeting whereby I'm sitting with the Republicans, sitting with the Democrats, sitting with health care experts, and let's just go through these bills -- their ideas, our ideas -- let's walk through them in a methodical way so that the American people can see and compare what makes the most sense. And then I think that we've got to go ahead and move forward on a vote. We've got to move forward on a vote....
"There's a lot of information out there that people understandably are concerned about. And that's why I think it's very important for us to have a methodical, open process over the next several weeks, and then let's go ahead and make a decision,'' he said.
"And it may be that -- you know, if Congress decides -- if Congress decides we're not going to do it, even after all the facts are laid out, all the options are clear, then the American people can make a judgment as to whether this Congress has done the right thing for them or not,'' the president said. "And that's how democracy works. There will be elections coming up and they'll be able to make a determination and register their concerns one way or the other during election time. All right? ''
The inference here is that members of Congress who allow these bills to die may pay for it at the polls in November.
The Republicans, on the other hand, see it differently: It is the Democrats who will pay, they say, should these bills become law.
"Don't give up,'' the president told his party last night.
But whatever the price for any failure to enact health-care reform, or the price for passing it, may be in November, the president, who has so often mouthed the words, "Yes, we can,'' is starting to get his mouth around the words, "if Congress decides we're not.''





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REPUBLICANS ONLY CARE ABOUT SPENDING WHEN THEY'RE OUT OF POWER.
"Reagan proved deficits don't matter."
- Dick Cheney
"Dick Cheney once observed that "deficits don't matter," which may well have been the most honest phrase he ever uttered. His words were at least partly true, which is more than can be said for the great majority of the vice president's remarks -- and they certainly expressed the candid attitude of Republicans whenever they attain power. His pithy fiscal slogan should remind us that much of the current political furor over deficit spending in the Obama budget is wrong, hypocritical, and worthy of the deepest skepticism."
"In our time, the Republican Party has compiled an impressive history of talking about fiscal responsibility while running up unrivaled deficits and debt. Of the roughly $11 trillion in federal debt accumulated to date, more than 90 percent can be attributed to the tenure of three presidents: Ronald Reagan, who used to complain constantly about runaway spending; George Herbert Walker Bush, reputed to be one of those old-fashioned green-eyeshade Republicans; and his spendthrift son George "Dubya" Bush, whose trillion-dollar war and irresponsible tax cuts accounted for nearly half the entire burden. Only Bill Clinton temporarily reversed the trend with surpluses and started to pay down the debt (by raising rates on the wealthiest taxpayers)."
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http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2009/03/27/deficits/index.html
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Posted by: HHH | February 5, 2010 5:41 PM
Incompetent, spineless, with a hint egomania....solid B+, Mr. President, solid B+.
Has anyone ever asked Obumbles what his specific plans are for HCR? Seriously. We've heard him talk on and on and on that we need HCR, but then he out-sources the actual planning to Pelosi and Reid, without providing a roadmap or a scintilla of guidance on how to achieve his grandiose healthcare overhaul.
Seriously....where is this guy's leadership?
Posted by: Chris | February 5, 2010 5:52 PM
GOP Wants to Take Away Your Social Security
It really is that simple. In the contest between tax breaks for Paris Hilton or corporate welfare for Exxon, and an ongoing multidecade contract with over 100 million Americans, judging by the latest Republican 'budget' priorities, they're working for Paris Hilton:
First, it calls for big cuts in Social Security benefits for everyone currently under 55 years of age. On top of the cuts it also calls for privatizing Social Security.
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http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/02/game_on_3.php#more?ref=fpblg
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Republicans want to cut your social security until it bleeds to death and toss the drained corpse into the jaws of Wall Street. Reason? To transfer your money to the wealthiest people on earth and stick you with the bill. So, democrats, do you have a simple five-second elevator pitch at the ready for why people should vote for you this Fall? If not, how about "Republicans are going to steal your social security and give it to rich people"?
Posted by: DarkSyde | February 5, 2010 6:34 PM
Chris,
You forgot "Present"
HHH,
I doubt if Vice-President Cheney ever dreamed of deficits this size.
DumbSide,
Social Security is the biggest ponzi scheme invented by man.
Posted by: Terry | February 5, 2010 9:03 PM
GOP Wants to Take Away Your Social Security
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AREN'T YOU THE MAJORITY PARTY WITH ALL THE "IDEAS"? DO TELL . . .
Posted by: Bobby Mobbie | February 5, 2010 9:31 PM
@Chris.....this could be your big moment Chris. Complaining, talking of death panels, hey that's the easy part. Give us your idea. First let me remind you that tort reform is worth a couple of % points, and that buying across state line may give 1 or 2 more % points, so tell me the idea to really save. Your turn for the big B+.
Posted by: bill r. | February 5, 2010 9:48 PM
What the Hell! The tea-baggers, nor the neo-cons have anything constructive to offer this nation! The party of can'ts! The party of Cheney, Bush, Wall Street Bankers, Ted Haggard, Larry Craig, Tom DeLay, Mark Foley, Sanford, Abramson, Boehner, health insurance companies, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Palin, Crash McCain, Strom Thurman, Fox news, etc, etc,. Does anyone believe that these people or institutions will ever do anything for this nation? It won't happen. Remember the republicans never do anything for this nation, they only do things to this nation! Now is not the time to quit. Now is the time to get tough, history will prove you out! The last president to have this much static from the opposition was FDR. Full speed ahead, with or without the wingnuts, and the white teabaggers! whiteagle38
Posted by: Raymond L. Juneau | February 5, 2010 10:17 PM
As the mayor of Las Vegas recently noted "maybe he (Obama) is a slow learner" or sometime like that. Obama has taken this healthcare boondoggle to a new level of ignorance on his part. Americans do not want his or Reid's healthcare and I guess "he don't get it". Ah yes, come Nov. we will turn out the lights on the Democract lefty liberalism and then set our goal to turn out Obama, as a one-tern failure, if we can survive his lefty agenda and the abject naive and rudderless attempt at leadership. And how about Obama stepping up to do his first priority, our national security!! Sure feel safe when his national security team tells us that his new "soft power policies against his man-made disasters by "alleged" extremists (what a joke on obfuscation) and the world-wide apology speeches condemning America have left us in the position of "almost a certain attack" on American within 3 to 6 months as we wait for his HVG of crack interrogators to be assembled. Of course, it has been over a year now to get this very critical group together. Damn that Bush, it is all his fault. Again and again and again. What an adolescent crybaby that sounds like, certainly not a President. How is the poll numbers going Mark, been gone for awhile??
Posted by: bubba Porter | February 6, 2010 5:39 AM
We know exactly where the American electorate will lay the blame. Where it belongs, in the wallets of the Republican-Libertarian Obstructionists. You know, that gang, that gave America, 20 years of Obstructionism in 1 year. How's that for being good American " leaders "?
Now, with the voters of Massachusetts, pleading temporary insanity, voted in a male model, who is more interested in his make-up kit, than our nation's broken healthcare system, we are in trouble. The inmates are now running the asylum !! The Corporations are laughing all the way to our banks, you know the banks we salvaged for the Weasels of Wall Street and the Bandits in our Boardrooms. Welcome to The Corporate Gulag # 100, America, fasten your seat-belts, we are in for another Bush&Cheney disaster !! 8 years wasn't quite enough !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.
Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, IL | February 6, 2010 8:13 AM
If ObamaPelosiCare goes down, WE (the American people) win.
Posted by: Equal time | February 6, 2010 8:23 AM
OH NOW YOU WANT TO SIT DOWN WITH THE OTHER SIDE. TOO LATE, OBUMBLE!!!
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"What I'd like to do is to have a meeting whereby I'm sitting with the Republicans, sitting with the Democrats, sitting with health care experts, and let's just go through these bills -- their ideas, our ideas -- and walk through them and in a methodical way so that the American people can see and compare," Obama said.
"And then I think we've got to go ahead and move forward on a vote," he added. "We've got to move forward on a vote."
A White House official acknowledged later Thursday that this was new language from Obama to offer a possible scenario for health care talks to move forward.
Posted by: Bobby Mobbie | February 6, 2010 9:44 AM
What's really needed is campaign finance reform. BOTH parties are beholding to special interests who supply them with the money it takes to win elections. The future of the middle class has been sold out to special interests
Posted by: Qippy | February 6, 2010 11:25 AM
This is the political realities on Capitol Hill. Health care probably will not pass, at least not in comprehensive form.
http://www.political-buzz.com/
Posted by: matt | February 6, 2010 11:41 AM
Democrats chafe as White House wavers on health care bill
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President Barack Obama has left Democrats as confused as ever over how the White House plans to deliver a health care reform bill this year, following two weeks of inconsistent statements, negligible hands-on involvement and a sudden shift to a jobs-first message.
Democrats on Capitol Hill and beyond say they have no clear understanding of the White House strategy – or even whether there is one – and are growing impatient with Obama’s reluctance to guide them toward a legislative solution.
At a White House meeting Thursday with Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi expressed frustration with the slow pace of the negotiations and the president’s decision not to weigh in publicly on a path forward, according to a Democratic source familiar with the meeting.
And some Democrats feel that every time they look to White House for clarity, they hear something different, as though the strategy is whatever the president or his top advisers said that day.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32619.html#ixzz0elh7QdTv
Posted by: Bobby Mobbie | February 6, 2010 1:11 PM
"We know exactly where the American electorate will lay the blame" FITZ, are you getting enough oxygen to your grey matter?
The dems have super majorities, yet its the GOP fault that legislation isn't getting thru. You really are clueless.
Posted by: Terry | February 6, 2010 1:22 PM
Bill,
So, in your mind, saving "just a few % points" is meaningless and we therefore shouldn't try tort reform and opening up health insurance sales across state lines?
What a sad world you must live in, champ.
Posted by: Chris | February 6, 2010 5:51 PM
Chris I would like you to explain how you see tort reform and selling insurance across state lines. How would you implement both.
Posted by: no spin | February 7, 2010 2:29 PM
no spin,
It's as simple as allowing insurance companies to sell their coverage in multiple states. Having more health insurance options for people to choose from, ceates more competition for better insurance services and price.
Tort reform could be as simple as enacting legislation that caps plaintiff awards for medical malpractice suits. This would reduce doctors' expenses in terms of having to carry unlimited liability insurance.
Simple, no?
Posted by: Chris | February 8, 2010 9:37 AM
Chris your fighting a uphill battle when trying to use common sense with Bill. That is just two bills that should be passed in the attempt to reform health care. There are many more and doing it with a number of smaller bills is the common sense approach. The same approach that was try in the House of Representatives with over 20 bills introduced by the Republicans for reform. But, none of the bills were led out of committee for debate on the House floor and of course the mainstream media went along with the propaganda of calling the Republicans the No Party. I also had a discussion with my doctor about a month ago and one thing he pointed out was all the high-end testing equipment. He believes a long with his colleagues that there is too much just sitting around and not being used as much as it could be. He also believes that immigration reform would help with health care reform. But I would imagine there are many things that could be done in healthcare reform that we could never thank out. But this boondoggle that the liberals in Congress call healthcare reform is nothing but a tax-and-spend bill full of earmarked, payoffs, and flat out bribes. If they want to get it right they should look at the system in Germany. The Germans have had this system for near 100 years now it was enacted by the Kaiser. The laws that control the system are made up of many smaller bills that are easier to manage. Plus they keep on top of the system and make adjustments when needed. You would not be able to make the adjustments fast enough if the liberal bill was passed which would end up in waste of resources and money if not life's.
Posted by: Crooks_In_DC | February 9, 2010 3:00 AM