Scott Brown: Move over, Huck and Newt: The Swamp
The Swamp
Chicago Tribune
Posted February 11, 2010 1:13 PM
The Swamp

by Michael Muskal

President Barack Obama has recently made a big thing about the "echo chamber" created by "a slash-and-burn" media and how that has helped poison the Washington political atmosphere.

But the big bullhorn of the media can create as well as destroy, as seen in the case of the newest member of the Senate.

According to the latest Gallup Poll, Republican Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown ranks fourth among 11 possible presidential candidates named by Republicans and like-minded independents as the person whom they would most like to see as the GOP standard bearer in 2012.

Brown, who has been in the Senate just long enough to have been caught in two huge snow storms, garnered just 4 percent of the support in this survey, a pittance that is about the same as the margin of error of the poll.

Yet, with so little to show on his national record, the support itself -- on a par with some of the party's past candidates -- is certainly a measure of the name recognition that comes with the blizzard of media attention to his surprise win of the Senate seat held for decades by the late Edward M. Kennedy.

Brown ranked behind two former governors, Massachusett's' Mitt Romney and Alaska's Sarah Palin, with 14 percent and 11 percent, respectively for the top spots in the GOP race. Seven percent of those surveyed mentioned Sen. John McCain, the party's 2008 nominee, who is facing a tough re-election bid for his own Arizona seat.

But Brown placed on a statistical par with former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, each with years of national politics behind them. They pulled 3 percent support in this survey.

To be sure, the GOP is far from unified right now, facing a conservative, angry, anti-incumbent attack from the Tea Party movement. The poll found that 42 percent said they did not have an opinion on who they preferred for the GOP's top spot.

But the poll does have some meaning. Even without naming a possible candidate, registered voters split almost evenly on whether they would back Obama for another term or would go to any Republican. Forty-four percent of registered voters said they are more likely to vote for Obama, while 42 percent said a Republican candidate. The remaining 14 percent said they were undecided or would vote for another candidate.

The old political adage is that it takes a candidate to beat a candidate, so the polls will likely shift when a real person - as opposed to a generic Republican - is named to run against Obama. It remains to be seen whether Brown's own star will rise or fade.

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Maybe with the exception of Mittens Romney, no Republican mentioned in above article has any chance of ever becoming President. I don't think anyone knows much about Brownie, except that he posed nude for Cosmopolitan magazine.
As far as grandpa McCain...I would love to see him defeated. Then he could retire to one of his seven or so houses and drive around in one of his twelve of thirteen vehicles sporting his $400 loafers. He'll still be able to collect his Senate and military pensions, social security, and disability income as well as receive his free nationalized government healthcare. Life is good.


While it doesn't take much to be called the next republican presidential candidate, Brown really has no chance in hell. His pro-choice stand is enough to put an end to that.


"But the poll does have some meaning. Even without naming a possible candidate, registered voters split almost evenly on whether they would back Obama for another term or would go to any Republican."------------------------------------------------------------------------I'm shocked that Silva even posted this poll. It's not good when you are TIED in the polls with a nameless Republican.....Tell us again how popular this guy is lefties..LOL


Yeah, nude model Scotty would be better off running for President seeing as how he has NO chance whatsoever of retaining his senate seat in two years if he votes like a far right wing Teabagger.


This guy is a flash in the pan. Wait until his 15 minutes are up and he actually has to start taking some tough votes - you won't hear the Wingnutters crowing about him after that happens


WOW LISTEN TO YOU RIGHTIE LOONS: BEAT THAT DRUM!!!!


Posted by: Bobby Mobbie | February 2, 2010 11:01 PM


This just proves that the Repugs don't have anyone to run against Obama in '12 that's worth a damn.


The only Repugnut that has any sort of following is Palin, and if the Repugs think they're going to get rid of her before '12 rolls around then they don't know Sister Sarah as well as the rest of us do.



Republicans by definition are UnAmerican as a whole. They're openly calling for states to secede from the United States. Declaring that civil and human rights are optional. That the 'Rule of Law' means nothing. That they prefer an autocratic ruler -- provided he or she is a radical right wing autocrat. For only operative Constitutional amendment to be #2. That court trials are only for certain people -- certainly not for anybody announced to be a suspected terrorist, no matter how flimsy or non-existent the evidence. The only 'liberty' Republicans want is the liberty to make everybody else live and exist by their hypocritical social & religious memes. To revoke the citizenship of and deport anyone they don't like. It's Fascism, plain and simple.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
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The right wing lunatic fringe list goes on and on -- and makes it abundantly clear the country they wish to live in does not in any way resemble the United States of America.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCLz7XQOIOQ
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NEW WAPO POLL: TWO THIRDS OF VOTERS SAY SCREW REPUBLICANS AND PASS COMPREHENSIVE REFORM!!!


Obama and Congressional leaders will head into the healthcare summit (which Eric Cantor has agreed to) with some good polling backing them up for finishing the job, even without Republicans.


"Americans spread the blame when it comes to the lack of cooperation in Washington, and, in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, most want the two sides to keep working to pass comprehensive health-care reform. Nearly six in 10 in the new poll say the Republicans aren't doing enough to forge compromise with President Obama on important issues; more than four in 10 see Obama as doing too little to get GOP support. Among independents, 56 percent see the Republicans in Congress as too unbending and 50 percent say so of the president; 28 percent of independents say both sides are doing too little to find agreement."
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http://voices.washingtonpost.com/behind-the-numbers/2010/02/americans_spread_the_blame_whe.html
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WaPo can call that "spreading the blame," but with 58 percent saying the Republicans are resisting compromise, the summit can provide much needed clarity on where the hold up remains. At the same time, healthcare reform can't fail--this summit can't be used as an attempt to shift the blame to the Republicans and set up a failure. Too many people are counting on reform.


Look at that graph--63 percent want comprehensive reform to pass, and more Independents want to see it pass than Republicans want to see it fail. But a note of caution, while the blame is primarily falling on Republicans now, ultimately the blame will be shared if it fails, and the bulk of it would fall on Obama and the Dems, since they are in charge.



Scott Brown needs to be careful of buying too much into the results of these polls.

He is the product of the voter discontent that the nation is facing right now. He won an election in a mostly democratic state to send a message. For someone who hasn't cast more than a few votes, he shouldn't view this as a real buying in of his ideas because he hasn't really established any yet.


But 99% of Republicans couldn't vote for Sen. Brown for President because their first argument against Obama's run was he was spending more time campaigning than legislatin'. And something about him making a promise to the people of IL. Then they went into the Birther/secret Muslim theories. Bunch of retards those TeaBaggers are.


NASHVILLE: TEA PARTY MOVEMENT NOW DOMINATED BY RIGHT WING CONSPIRACISTS 'DANGEROUSLY DETACHED FROM REALITY' !!!

Jonathan Kay at Newsweek -- a self-identified mainstream conservative -- is reporting after spending a week in Nashville with the Tea Party folks:


"After I spent the weekend at the Tea Party National Convention in Nashville, Tenn., it has become clear to me that the movement is dominated by people whose vision of the government is conspiratorial and dangerously detached from reality. It's more John Birch than John Adams."


"I consider myself a conservative and arrived at this conference as a paid-up, rank-and-file attendee, not one of the bemused New York Times types with a media pass. But I also happen to be writing a book for HarperCollins that focuses on 9/11 conspiracy theories, so I have a pretty good idea where the various screws and nuts can be found in the great toolbox of American political life."
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http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/conservative-nashville-tea-party-mov
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That doesn't say much for the state of the right wing in America today. The tea partiers' tricornered hat is supposed to be a symbol of patriotism and constitutional first principles. But when you take a closer look, all you find is a helmet made of tin foil.



END THE REPUBLICAN'S ABUSE OF THE FILIBUSTER!


Republicans play games with the filibuster, deliberately gumming up the legislative process in their effort to gain political advantage, and it needs to stop.


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http://alternativetulsa.blogspot.com/2009/12/obstruction-gang-gop-abuses-filibuster.html
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Scott Brown needs to be careful of buying too much into the results of these polls.

He is the product of the voter discontent that the nation is facing right now. He won an election in a mostly democratic state to send a message. For someone who hasn't cast more than a few votes, he shouldn't view this as a real buying in of his ideas because he hasn't really established any yet.

Posted by: Todd M | February 11, 2010 3:14 PM


Could be- but he has about 45 minutes less time than Obama had in the Senate.. and pretty close to the same amount of votes...


Brown is already walking back his past associations with, and endorsements of, crazy Teabagger Republicans.
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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/77383-brown-camp-wont-say-whether-controversial-endorsement-is-legitimate
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Ahhh, as usual the Whacked-Out Loons on the Left are running rampant.
First of all, let's tackle Michael Muskal's sham of an article. He states the Republicans are not unified. I see Michael is drinking the Mainstream Media Clueless Kool-Aid drink. Earth to Michael, Earth to Michael: the Republicans ARE united. Have you heard a little something about victories in Massachusetts, New Jersey and Virginia, Michael? Have you seen the polls in which the Republicans are basically wiping the floor with your party, the Demoncrats?
Michael also disparages Brown's lack of experience. How is it any different than Obama's? Both were state legislators. Obama decided to run after less than two years as a U.S. Senator, about what Brown will have should he run and win the nomination in 2012, which I doubt he will.
Now, I love the Loons continually attacking Brown for his pictoral past. Sorry, loons, Brown's pictoral past is nowhere near as shameful as Obama's own drug use and selling past.

And as far as who the Republican nominee might be in 2012, it is anyone's guess as that is a long way out there. Just about any Republican, though, could do a much better job than the incompetent embarrassment that is in the White House now. It could be Romney, Brown, Palin, Huckabee, Daniels, Ryan, Pawlenty, Thune, Gingrich, Gregg, McConnell, whomever.

It's time the Loons went back to their irrational alternative reality world.


Don't tell me, we have Ronnie Raygun, the Bush&Cheney and Tricky Dick, all rolled into canidate, Senator Brown. What a model Senator !! If that is the case, America, hang onto your wallet, your sons and daughters and above, guard our Constitution, or what is left of it !! Prepare for the absolute take-over of our election process by Corpos' Billions, as well as our country's life. These aren't idle musings, but the agenda of The Republican-Libertarian-T-Baggers..They amount to the re-installation of the Bush&Cheney Regime. That is what America can look forward to, if they are suckered in, by another puppet Regime of The Corporations. You can take that our banks !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.


I forgot to mention that you may see his pro-choice stand change with thoughts of the presidency and the possibility of the right forgiving him his "misguided" stand in hopes of having a candidate. So much for conviction and his follower will fogive like a person in the desert in search of water.


As far as Newt is concerned, he doesn't even know the shoe bomber was british and just screwed things up more with his follow-up.


Funny thing about that whole Newt thing. He claimed the shoe bomber was an American citizen on the Stewart shoe. I googled it up today and guess what.......not one word mentioned on Faux "fairly unbalanced" or any of the other red meat conservative sites. Hmmmmmm! I guess it isn't news when a possible candidate bestows American citizenship on a terrorist on an issue so important to ramp up a political firestorm as the right does.


TRUE, TODD. THANKS FOR ACTUALLY THINKING AND WRITING INSTEAD OF DRONING AND PASTING LIKE TOO MANY LEFTIE LIBERAL LOONS DO ON THIS BLOG.

Scott Brown needs to be careful of buying too much into the results of these polls.
He is the product of the voter discontent that the nation is facing right now. He won an election in a mostly democratic state to send a message. For someone who hasn't cast more than a few votes, he shouldn't view this as a real buying in of his ideas because he hasn't really established any yet.
Posted by: Todd M | February 11, 2010 3:14 PM


I'm not all that crazy about Scott Brown for president. He was just a state senator and would only be a senator for a few years before becoming president in 2012.

I think I've seen this story of state senator to US senator, get a couple of years of experience and then become president - it hasn't worked that well. Why should we try that again?


I would never have voted for Scott Brown BUT I cannot say I am disappointed that he took that seat!

WOW!!!!! God is merciful! and socialized Healthcare has be derailled (or perhaps postponed temporarily for now)

I AM LOVIN MASSACHUSETTS RIGHT NOW!!!!!(O:

Remember "I Love NY"?


The last Kennedy holding office will not run for reelection. Oh my how the loony left has fallen. I am not worried about 2012 at this time I am having too much fun watching incumbents squirm over the midterms.


That model Senator, Senator Brown is not so much the product of voter discontent, as he is the hair-brained scheme of voter fomentation, authored by the goon squads of the healthscare campaign of the Rabid Right. The Glossy One's, Senator Brown, election was about as aberrational as the re-election of the Bush&Cheney, but this is America, 21st century, where fact is fiction and reason has been shelved, in favor of fear. I know the the voters of America will come to their senses, especially the voters of Massachusetts, who were caught, sleeping behind the wheel. I only need to remind America of Neut Getrich and the Bush&Cheney bushwhackers, who tried to destroy Social Security and Medicare, during their rain of error !! If you want more of " Crash " McCain, " Failin " Palin, Neut Getrich, Dickie Armey and "Porky" Bill Bennet, than by all means, vote for the Republican-Libertarian-T-Baggers. They will dismantle our constitutional government faster than you can say: Phil Gramm and his " nation of whiners " !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW


DO-OVER!!!!!!!!!!
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Health Care Reform
61% Say Congress Should Start All Over Again on Health Care
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform


I hope Brown does not pull a Obama and run after only 164 days.


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Posted by: over do it and have a fit | February 11, 2010 3:29 PM
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You’ve really dipped your bucket into an empty well this time.
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The cited statistics that supposedly show a greater number of “filibusters” actually show no such thing. The statistics reflect the number of “cloture” motions made by Harry Reid and the Democrats. The assumption advocated by the Democrat hacks who wrote the article you cite is that these cloture motions are necessary to head off filibusters. The problem is that not all, or even most, cloture motions are made to stop filibusters. These motions are made routinely by Reid as a means of controlling the flow of Senate business. Besides, using cloture motions to control Senate business also has the salubrious effect (to the Dems, anyway) of feeding the rhetoric that Republicans are obstructionists.
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This merely goes to prove the old saying that, “Figures don’t lie, but liars do figure.” And you fell for it. Shame on you.


Scott Brown's pro abortion and anti-health care stance indicates that he would support the killing of the unborn but not provide health care if they are born. How did anyone actually vote for this guy?


What the Hell? Slick Scotty Brown has been on the public dole since he was 19 years old. He gets a pension from the government, he is and has gotten his income from the government since he was 19. He currently gets his income, and a pension while working on another pension from the government. He gets his health care from the government. Probably does not pay taxes on his government pension, like Crash McCain, who does not pay taxes on his 58,000 dollar pension. Does anyone even believe that a tea-bagger or republican would do anything for this nation? It won't happen! Remember the republicans never do anything for this nation, they only do things to this nation! whiteagle38


Pale Pigeon,

"on the public dole since he was 19 years old." - As a member of the Army National Guard. It's not like he is a lazy gov't worker sitting in Social Security Ofiice.


I hear Gen. Petraeus is rethinking about running for president in 2012. I have a strong feeling the general will be one real force to be reckoned with. Red flag is up --- all the way! Hooyah!


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