Stimulus: 1 - 2.1 million jobs, GDP boost

MEET THE NEW BFF's OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!!

Glenn Beck loves them. The Teabaggers court them. Republican Congressmen listen to them.

Meet the fast-growing right wing domestic terrorist "patriot" group that's recruiting soldiers to resist the Obama administration, "The Oath Keepers".

Unlike the Wolverines of Red Dawn, these right wing nutjobs are better armed and their enemy isn't invading Soviet surrogates. It's fellow Americans.

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http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/03/oath-keepers
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Hey Wingnuts!

If you've still got a problem with the Stimulus - TAKE IT UP WITH THESE GUYS!

"REPORT: After Voting To Kill STIMULUS, 110 GOP Lawmakers Tout Its Success, Ask For More Money"

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http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/17/stimulus-hypocrisy-101/
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not BREAKING NEWS!!!

"Washington Times: GOP lawmakers privately admit stimulus created jobs"

If there's one thing that unites the Republican Party it's their phony claim that the stimulus bill was a job-killing piece of legislation that was the worst thing in the whole entire world for the economy, right? Or maybe that's just what unites them in public, because in private the Washington Times reports they've been working overtime to get their hands on job-creating stimulus cash.

Remember Joe "You Lie" Wilson?

"Rep. Joe Wilson, South Carolina Republican who became famous after yelling, "You lie," during Mr. Obama's addresses to Congress in September, voted against the stimulus. Nonetheless, Mr. Wilson elbowed his way into the rush for federal stimulus cash in a letter he sent to Mr. Vilsack on behalf of a foundation seeking funding. "We know their endeavor will provide jobs and investment in one of the poorer sections of the Congressional District," he wrote to Mr. Vilsack in the Aug. 26, 2009, letter.
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http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/09/stimulus-foes-see-value-in-seeking-cash/
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Kudos to the Washington Times for having done the leg work of filing the FOIA requests to expose these examples of Republican lawmakers talking out of both sides of their mouths, publicly lambasting the stimulus as a job-killing measure, but privately conceding that it actually created jobs. It's hard to imagine a more effective way of demonstrating Republican hypocrisy on the question of whether the stimulus bill creates jobs, and Dems should remind them of it every waking day.

GOP LIARS WHO ATTACKED THE STIMULUS, YET ENJOYED BILLIONS IN BENEFITS!!!

Oh the hypocrisy: Republicans have been attending ribbon cuttings for stimulus-funded projects that they voted against.

- Republican Senate Candidate Rep. Mike Castle Takes Credit For Over $5 Million In Stimulus Funds He Voted To Kill

- In KY, Republican Mitch McConnell Brags About Stimulus Projects, Requests More Money; In DC, McConnell Says Stimulus Should End

Republicans Who Opposed The Stimulus Continue To Pan It As A ‘Failure,’ While Also Taking Credit For Its Success

- Republican Jindal Tours Louisiana Attacking ‘Washington Spending’ While Handing Out Jumbo-Sized Stimulus Checks. Jindal takes credit for stimulus, presents constituents with jumbo-sized stimulus check.

- Republican Rep. Shuster Bashes The Stimulus As A Failure While Taking Credit For Its Success

Republicans Who Opposed The Stimulus Line Up To Criticize It Publicly, Request More Money Privately

- Republican Kit Bond Touts Effects Of Stimulus Bill He Voted Against

- All In A Day’s Work: Republican Rep. Kingston Smears The Stimulus On TV, Takes Credit For Stimulus Jobs In His District

The GOP is not interested in productive policy, they are only interested in sabotaging the President's agenda. I'm not sure what good he thinks this meeting with them (GOP) is going to do other than hopefully point out their rank hypocrisy, but so far he's giving way too much deference to the party of "no" that deserves none. The Republicans are more than happy to continue to drive the economy into a ditch if they think it will keep them in office.
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http://www.alternet.org/news/145629/rachel_maddow_exposes_gop_welfare_queens_who_attacked_obama's_stimulus,_yet_enjoyed_billions_in_benefits?page=entire
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The CBO's word on healthcare was a-ok...this time I expect a different take. What was that again they call that? starts with an H

REPUBLICAN STIMULUS LIARS!

- Republican Senate Candidate Rep. Mike Castle Takes Credit For Over $5 Million In Stimulus Funds He Voted To Kill

- In KY, Republican Mitch McConnell Brags About Stimulus Projects, Requests More Money; In DC, McConnell Says Stimulus Should End

Republicans Who Opposed The Stimulus Continue To Pan It As A ‘Failure,’ While Also Taking Credit For Its Success

- Republican Jindal Tours Louisiana Attacking ‘Washington Spending’ While Handing Out Jumbo-Sized Stimulus Checks. Jindal takes credit for stimulus, presents constituents with jumbo-sized stimulus check.

- Republican Rep. Shuster Bashes The Stimulus As A Failure While Taking Credit For Its Success

Republicans Who Opposed The Stimulus Line Up To Criticize It Publicly, Request More Money Privately

- Republican Kit Bond Touts Effects Of Stimulus Bill He Voted Against

- All In A Day’s Work: Republican Rep. Kingston Smears The Stimulus On TV, Takes Credit For Stimulus Jobs In His District

The GOP is not interested in productive policy, they are only interested in sabotaging the President's agenda. I'm not sure what good he thinks this meeting with them (GOP) is going to do other than hopefully point out their rank hypocrisy, but so far he's giving way too much deference to the party of "no" that deserves none. The Republicans are more than happy to continue to drive the economy into a ditch if they think it will keep them in office.

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So each job comes with a price tag of $262,333.00. And how many times has the CBO's numbers been right? People thank that the CBO gives hard figures but, they are only estimates. And what they leave out is how much it is added to the national debt and how much interest we will be paying on it. So in the end each job could end up costing over half a million dollars.

You can't apply past models to this recession. "CBO has estimated the law's impact on employment and economic output using evidence about the effects of previous similar policies on the economy and using various mathematical models that represent the workings of the economy,''

By far the majority of any stimulus went to patching holes in state governments budgets; therefore, paying unionized government workers salaries and benefits. Instead of laying off unproductive government workers the money went to paying their wages. Then there are the millions of unemployed that have received four extensions of unemployment insurance.

Recently, (keep in mind this is over a year after passage) a California city received 340 million to upgrade a railroad yard. Local officials are scratching their heads, because this project was not on anyone's priority list. Miles and miles of parked and moth balled train engines sit in the rail yard. Just like the central planning of Moscow, having Washington decide projects and telling localities what to do, is inefficent, ineffective, wasteful, and results in failure of government to provide needed service based on the need of the local community.

Please provide the proof of this statement: "the White House's claim that the stimulus has aided in the recovery from the worst recession since the Great Depression." This has been a Democrat talking point for some time now. Most economists will dispute your statement about this being "the worst recession since the Great Depression." Just because this lie is repeated over and over, does not make it true.

I used to have an African Grey parrot that would repeat phrases it heard. At this point, I don't know which is better at parroting phrases - the African Grey or Mark Silva!

A few weeks ago, in a statement typical of his party’s propensity for propaganda, newly-minted Senator Scott Brown (R-MA) forcefully asserted that the Obama administration’s economic stimulus package, “hasn’t created one new job.”

The problem with Brown’s declaration is that it’s objectively false. On Wednesday, the New York Times published a piece on the bill’s far-reaching impact. The results expose just how deceitful and irresponsible the senator’s remarks were.

One year on, the Recovery Act is well on its way to accomplishing all of its stated objectives. Next time the junior senator from Massachusetts speaks out of turn, I suggest he do his homework beforehand.

Read more @ http://armchairfirebrand.wordpress.com/

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far the majority of any stimulus went to patching holes in state governments budgets; therefore, paying unionized government workers salaries and benefits.
Posted by: Free to Watch Whatever I Want | February 23, 2010 2:33 PM
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Clown,

Why don't you complain about it to the Republican liars that you cheerlead for? You know, the ones who are going around passing out big cardboard stimulus checks and praising the job creation from the stimulus bill that they voted against.

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http://www.usnews.com/blogs/john-farrell/2010/02/09/republican-stimulus-hypocrisy-they-knew-it-would-work.html
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Ahhh, the Loons from the Left are running amok again, and cutting and pasting the same nonsense they usually do and this time we even get rabid garbage from Mother Jones!!!!

The stimulus did not create jobs. Even Evan Bayh says "if I can create one job in the private sector that would be more jobs than Congress created in the past six months."
It's all smoke and mirrors. And not even half of the stimulus has been spent. And of that money about half was in targeted tax cuts and unemployment extensions, hardly things that grow or create jobs or even save jobs. $175 billion in government spending is not going to impact a $13 trillion economy.

As far as Republicans taking stimulus money, they are politicians. Politicians almost always will take government money to spread goodies around. If someone is going to give you free money, you're going to take it.
The real numbers are that weekly unemployment claims continue to rise, surpassing all expectations. Inflation is beginning to show its ugly head. People are giving up looking for work and are now trying the "work at home" thing as consultants or e-bay sellers.
That is the real world, but then the Loons on the Left never did live in the real world.

Let's review Eric Cantors great majic pony jobs plan. Please empty mouth if full of liquid as not to spray your keyboard.

To recap: Cut regulations. Freeze spending. Cut taxes. No new taxes. That's the plan.

I would really, really love to have access to an alternative universe in which Cantor's plan could have been applied this past year, in parallel with our world, in which the economy was injected with a massive stimulus, so we could compare the efficacy of the two approaches in real time. What would have happened if instead of spending money, the government had sat on its hands?

Cantor says the Obama stimulus has failed. Just two days ago, the Congressional Budget Office (which Cantor approvingly referred to a "neutral" in his speech) declared that the stimulus had worked -- that it had added 1.2-3.2 points of GDP growth that would otherwise have not occurred and added 600,000 to 1.6 million jobs.

So without the stimulus, judging from the CBO report, one can assume that the economy would still be contracting, and unemployment would be higher than it is now. But in Eric Cantor's world, with Republicans in control, slashing regulations and freezing spending, we'd be better off. Why not? In a world where "no cost" solutions are possible, anything can happen.

CAN YOU CUT AND PASTE LOONY LIBS GET SOME NEW CONTENT?

Before the Left Wing Crazies and the Right Wing Kooks attack me I would just like to ask some questions. My first question is how many New Jobs (2.1 million being reported) were really created because of the the Stimulus Package? How many of those jobs were in the private sector and how many were in the public sector? How many of those jobs were current positions saved by the stimulus? And how many jobs were lost during that period? We are hearing reports around the country that the Stimulus Package did save some current jobs. But it is also being reported that once the Stimulus was spent many of those jobs are now being eliminated. Although the politicians like to talk about job creations and job losses if it helps their own political agenda, the question arises are we really gaining in the number of jobs being created? There is a day that does not go by where we hear about large scale layoffs in the job market. Today is is also being reported that Consumer Confidence dropped to its lowest level since 1983. And if we are really in a recovery (feeble at best) as some economists say, when will we start to have a real job creation recovery without any type of government stimulus?

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Ahhh, the Loons from the Left are running amok again, and cutting and pasting the same nonsense they usually do and this time we even get rabid garbage from Mother Jones!!!!The stimulus did not create jobs.
Posted by: John D | February 23, 2010 3:06 PM
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Wrong again, Lil Johnny Troglodyte.

Stimulus Opponent Cantor Hosts Job Fair With Jobs Fueled By The Stimulus:
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http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/20/cantor-job-fair/
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Watching these Wingnut Congressional hypocrites like Cantor twist in the wind over the stimulus is the funniest thing I've seen since the last time I read one of your nutty rants on here, Lil Johnny.

CAN YOU CUT AND PASTE LOONY LIBS GET SOME NEW CONTENT?

Posted by: Bobby Mobbie | February 23, 2010 3:33 PM

Pot...meet Kettle!

CAN YOU CUT AND PASTE RADICAL RIGHTIES GET SOME NEW CONTENT?

GOOD ECONOMIC NEWS = BAD NEWS FOR A REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT WANT'S AMERICA TO FAIL!!

Republicans only care about being in power and if that includes letting the country burn to get them there - so be it.

TAXPAYERS SPENDING $40.000 PER MONTH ON PERKS FOR FORMER REPUBLICAN SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE AND CURRENT LOBBYIST, DENNIS HASTERT!!!

"U.S. taxpayers are spending more than $40,000 per month on office space, staff, cell phones and a leased SUV for former House Speaker Dennis Hastert, even as he works as a lobbyist for private corporations and foreign governments."

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As the Wingnutter simpletons all know, the recovery act didn't create even one job, and the new CBO report from today proves it!

- The stimulus created up to 2.1 million jobs in the last three months of 2009.

- It boosted the economy by up to 3.5 percent.

- It lowered the unemployment rate by up to 2.1 percent during that period.

- In 2010, the package expected to boost GDP by between 1.4 percent and 4 percent.

- In 2010 the package expected to bring down the unemployment rate by between 0.7 percent and 1.8.

Dear hypocrite Republicans, see you all at the next ribbon cutting ceremonies! You lame losers.

Unemployment is still high.
Above the 8% that someone said it would not go over. On March 5th the Feb 2010 rate will come in. Jobless claims spiked in Feb. I expect it will be back over 10% again. You can sit there & spin the stimulus as effective but I have one question? What is the point of drawing out all that money & not using it? You end up paying a ton of interest
on the back end, right?
The estimate I saw was 347 billion dollars over a ten year period. Who's going to pay that off (wink, wink)?
In 2009 it was .7 billion,
In 2010 it goes to 4.1.
in 2011 11.1
Then in 2012 when Obama is up for re-election it goes to 22.
2013 = 31.9
2014 = 37.5
2015 = 42.1
2016 = 45.4
2017 = 48.1
2018 = 50.6
2019 = 53.6
The effectiveness will not be known for many years.
So what, jobs were created but at what long term cost??? Was a recession halted or was an even longer one created? Time will tell.

Republicans peaked too soon with their usual lying and scaring people act.. Which means they'll have to spend a lot of time in November answering questions and defending their lies. ;-)

One important thing about this report..."Such reports, however, do not provide a comprehensive
estimate of the law’s impact on employment in
the United States."
What a waste of a report of the effects of the 'stimulas'.

Posted by: Free to watch Cartoons | February 23, 2010 3:05 PM

Turn off your afternoon workload, Cartoons, and get back to doing that important government work. You know, online solitaire, and you're due for your break. Thanks for all you do...nothing.

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Turn off your afternoon workload, Cartoons, and get back to doing that important government work. You know, online solitaire, and you're due for your break. Thanks for all you do...nothing.

Posted by: Free to Watch Whatever I Want | February 23, 2010 5:15 PM
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Is that the best you've got, Skippy?

HAHAHA!!!

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Unemployment is still high.Above the 8% that someone said it would not go over. On March 5th the Feb 2010 rate will come in. Jobless claims spiked in Feb. I expect it will be back over 10% again. You can sit there & spin the stimulus as effective
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Wingnut Simpleton,
Unemployment is a lagging indicator, it's always the last to fully recover. You know this but you're desperate to somehow pin the economic disaster, that the Bush Republicans created, on Obama and the Dems.

We aren't sitting here spinning the Stimulus as being effictive, your Republican heroes are doing that for us.
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http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/jindaljumbostimuluscheck.jpg
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http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/13/gingrey-hands-out-stimulus/
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Posted by: Planet Sheeple:

Yeah, keep tellling yourself it's
ALL BUSH'S FAULT! That's all you sheeple people know how to say. In 2 years you will be crying for the good ol days of Bush. People will be saying, hey remember when the dollar was actually worth something before Obama & the goofy Tsars came along and trashed it.

Planet Wingnuttia

Who is being the simpleton here? Your links are to a liberal site and you forget the economy started to go into the tank once the Democrats got control in the Congress in 2006. So you keep right on blaming Bush and after November I bet you'll blame him for what happens at the ballot box. It would seem a majority of Democrat governors running for reelection are having a bad time of it.

Leave it to clueless libs to read the headlines and declare this dem slush fund actually worked. Get a life you cut and paste trolls. If you read the report you would note that it all boils down to multipliers and the assumptions that go into those estimates.

All of the projections assume a baseline of economic conditions absent the slush fund. Who made this baseline assumption? The same clueless folks that predicted unemployment wouldn't breach 8%.

Of course there was economic activity associated with this spending. There is economic activity when I leave my windows open and demand my neighbors pay my heating bill. Libs may not care that it is an inefficient deployment of resources, will demonize the neighbors for being rich but they will happily point to all the union jobs they saved or created.

Sorry libs but telling the 17% of underemployed Americans that your slush fund was successful may make you feel better but it won't fool anyone with a brain. Then again you've been buying the lies from your messiah since before he was elected maybe you've never learned to think for yourself.

If you want to know the employment effect of the slush fund, just read the AP's analysis that came out about a month ago. Get rid of the one week jobs, budgeted positions etc. and this has had zero effect on employment.

I am surprised that the organization that created this slush fund now wants to claim it has been successful.

WANNA KNOW WHAT DECADES OF DEMOCRATIC "LEADERSHIP" GET YOU?
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Doomsday Predictions Tax Illinois
State watchdog group calls for 'historical' increase in personal income tax
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http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/Doomsday-Taxes-State-of-Illinois-84947527.html

HMMMM WE'RE LAWYERS THE PREVIOUSLY REPRESENTED TERRORISTS AND NOW WE WERE APPOINTED TO DOJ. NO CONFLICT THERE, RIGHT?
In-Justice! Furor over O's 'Gitmo' appointees
The Justice Department's disclosure that nine of President Obama's appointees had either represented or advocated for Guantanamo detainees has touched off a firestorm of criticism.
The surprising admission came three months after Republican Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa asked Attorney General Eric Holder for a list of names of Obama DOJ appointees who had been involved in legal work for Gitmo prisoners.
Holder, in a letter to Grassley, admitted that nine of the agency's appointees had done some kind of work on behalf of terror suspects.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/in_justice_furor_over_gitmo_appointees_2Yr7Gp8Qh41E4EVWIeAXRP
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AND THIS ONE . . .
Eric Holder stonewalls Congress on terror lawyers
A number of lawyers who work on terrorist issues at the Justice Department represented terrorist detainees before joining the Obama administration.

At the time, Grassley knew from press reports that two high-ranking department officials now working on detainee issues had previously worked for detainees: Principal Deputy Solicitor General Neal Katyal once represented Osama bin Laden's driver, and Jennifer Daskal, an official in the National Security Division, worked on behalf of detainees at the liberal organization Human Rights Watch.

"This prior representation, I think, creates a conflict of interest problem for these individuals," Grassley said, asking Holder to supply the names of all political appointees who had represented or advocated for detainees, the cases they worked on, and their terror-related responsibilities in the Justice Department.

Holder at first blew Grassley off, but later said he would look into it. Later, all GOP senators on the Judiciary Committee joined in Grassley's request. But November passed with no answer from Holder. Then December went by, with no answer. Then January.

Finally, last week, Grassley and his colleagues got a response -- they wouldn't really call it an answer -- from the attorney general. Holder told Grassley that at least nine department officials formerly represented detainees. (It is "at least" because Holder conceded that he did not make a complete survey of DOJ's political appointees.)

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Eric-Holder-stonewalls-Congress-on-terror-lawyers-85000577.html

Raising taxes is the only song liberals know Bobby. They are like a jukebox that you keep putting money in that promises to sing you something different but only has a loop recording of: "Put Another Nickel in the Jukebox." Sung by: "Tax Raising Zombies From Hell." Play it again, Nancy, Harry and Obama.

John D,

What did you ever do yo poor ol' Janet? Did you dump her on prom night?

Once again let a picture tell the story of the stimulus' "success"

http://michaelscomments.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/october-job-losses-accelerate-again-10-2/

With the steepness of that curve, I think BO is making a ski jump ramp.

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Who is being the simpleton here? Your links are to a liberal site
Posted by: Crooks_In_DC | February 23, 2010 7:57 PM
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As usual, Clown in DC has NOTHING, so he resorts to bashing the mythical so called "liberal sites" that prove that he supports a bunch of two-faced Republican hyocrites - who lied to him when they were grandstanding against the stimulus in DC, and then they showed up smiling and holding big card board stimulus checks to pass out when they got back to their home states.

There's a word to describe people like you, it's starts with a D and ends with an S.

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I am surprised that the organization that created this slush fund now wants to claim it has been successful.

Posted by: Hans | February 23, 2010 8:12 PM
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Careful there Hans,
You're spinning so hard that you're going to twist yourself up into a knotted mess. You should have known that your Wingnut heroes were lying to you, everyone else who isn't a Republican did. And they're lying to you about health care reform too.

We don't have to claim that the Stimulus has been successful, your Republican leadership is doing that for us.

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"Republican Sen. Christopher S. Bond regularly railed against President Obama's economic stimulus plan as irresponsible spending that would drive up the national debt. But behind the scenes, the Missouri Republican quietly sought more than $50 million from a federal agency for two projects in his state. Mr. Bond was not alone. More than a dozen Republican lawmakers, while denouncing the stimulus to the media and their constituents, privately sent letters to just one of the federal government's many agencies seeking stimulus money for home-state pork projects."

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Republicans by definition are UnAmerican as a whole. They're openly calling for states to secede from the United States. Declaring that civil and human rights are optional. That the 'Rule of Law' means nothing. That they prefer an autocratic ruler -- provided he or she is a radical right wing autocrat. For only operative Constitutional amendment to be #2. That court trials are only for certain people -- certainly not for anybody announced to be a suspected terrorist, no matter how flimsy or non-existent the evidence. The only 'liberty' Republicans want is the liberty to make everybody else live and exist by their hypocritical social & religious memes. To revoke the citizenship of and deport anyone they don't like. It's Fascism, plain and simple.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
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The right wing lunatic fringe list goes on and on -- and makes it abundantly clear the country they wish to live in does not in any way resemble the United States of America.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCLz7XQOIOQ
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You'll note the Replican talking point checklist now includes one to the effect that, even assuming jobs were created, it was at a cost of $1 million+ per job yaddabaddabing....

So, yes, by the presence of this antibody, jobs must be materializing....

Holder? Well, remember the confirmation hearing where Louis Freeh ex FBI director, sat there and said Holder participated in a "corrupt act", i.e., the Marc Rich and related pardons of BillyBob Clinton on the last day in office, BUT: Freeh was supporting him nonetheless.

That's how Warshington works, isn't it?

Just like, early in 08 some CSpan coverage of some panel of insiders talking about a change of administrations, inluded Jamie Gorelick.

Question came up: should there be a Truth Commission or other way to hold Bushites accountable.

Her response? Nooo, no, noooooo----that's wouldn't be a good idea, too vindictive, they were just cogs in machine following orders, yaddabaddabing...

This was BEFORE it came out that Jamie was one of the pigs at the trough, scarfing down $millions in "compensation" from some position at Freddie May or Fannie Mac.....

So why should we be surprised that Justice Department so-called "Office of Professional Standards" whitewarshes Torture Judge Bybee and Torture Professor Yoo-doom?

That's the Warshington way, isn't it?

Can I get Louis Freeh to testify for me?

Talk about COOKING the books!! It created so many jobs that it enabled the unemployment rate jump over 10%. Which I might add has not happened since the early 80's. Big Government is Notorious for running programs into the ground. Stop creating temp jobs and LOWER Taxes for private businesses. Apple and Coca Cola are strong because government is not controlling them.

Huray we did it!!I believe everything good about Barry and nothing bad. Because Bush lied and Fox is racist!!!!! EEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRGH!!

Triple H.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Most times when anybody replies to your post all you come back with is one of your loony liberal rants. Most economists do not see any of the improvements at the level that the administration keeps stating. And now economist are stating that the stimulus may have actually hurt more than it helped, history will show either way. Like with FDR's programs which are believed to have done very little and it was World War II that ended the Great Depression. Two years before the war unemployment was headed up. Like I said before a liberal using a liberal site to try to make a point is just being lazy and the same goes for someone on the right. I have also stated Republicans praising the money from the stimulus going to their districts is like the Democrats trying to take credit for the success in Iraq. But, that was in a different forum which was more on point then your post and I must add what you added to this one.

Terry,
I didn't dump on poor, ignorant Janet for prom. She wanted me, but I would have nothing do with her. Remember all those Dumb Dora and Ugly Edna questions on the ole Match Game? Well, they were about Janet.

Anyway, when Democrats like Evan Bayh say the stimulus didn't work, then by golly, it didn't work!
If it worked so well, why do we need a jobs bill or second stimulus so soon after the other?

And today it's reported home sales fell to a record low never reached before. And also reaching a never before low is congresses approval rating which now stands at 10%. Obama has a presidential approval rating of -16. Layoffs have gone up the last two months but at the same time the unemployment rate has remained unchanged, something smells fishy here. I do not know what Obama and the loony liberals in Congress have been smoking but they need to pass it around to ease some of the pain that real working Americans are feeling right now. Maybe it is the same stuff Obama was selling when he was in school.

John D. went to prom?

That is the most hilarious thing I've read in The Swamp in years.

Terri girl, you have seen a picture of John D right?

Prom, oh that's funny.

Where in the Constitution or Bill of Rights does it say that every American is entitled to Health Care?
It is clear that Obama and Biden want to change the Constitution and develop more of the European Socialized Form of Government. History has shown that it does not work and Capitalism outperforms it every time.
Let’s fix Medicare and Medicaid before we implement another failed Government program.

Posted by: John D | February 23, 2010 3:06 PM
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Geographically Stupid Little Johnnie D: why don't you talk to Republican California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger who says that the stimulus has CREATED jobs in California:
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SCHWARZENEGGER: Anyone that says it hasn’t created a job, they should talk to the 150,000 people that have been getting jobs in California.

MORAN: In the private sector?

SCHWARZENEGGER: In the private sector and from the public sector. … So I’m happy that we got this money. I’m happy that we have put 150,000 people to work and there will be more people that are put to work because of it.
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http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/21/swartzenager-gop-stimulus-hypocrisy/

BC

Right why doesn't Arnold tell how many jobs they have lost since he has been governor. How many jobs have moved to border states around California. So please loony liberal propaganda is no longer working for the majority of the voting population. I know my wife's company moved over 500 of its positions to Texas a few years back. And these were not your minimum wage nor even middle-class wages these were high-paying technical medical device jobs. And I know of seven other companies with similar positions that left California in a one-year period within a few miles of my wife's old company location.

I know my wife's company moved over 500 of its positions to Texas a few years back.

Posted by: Crooks_In_DC | February 24, 2010 2:44 PM

And who was President back then?? I rest my case idiot.

Tara, dear, companies are fleeing states like California and Illinois because of high taxes, So the company that Crooks in DC is talking about went to Texas to lower its costs. That is a good thing for that company and business.
So, it appears it is you who are the idiot!

And, "Terri" back in my prom days I was a good-looking athletic kid who weighed about 125, not the 180 I weigh today!

And, once again, Idiot-for-Life BC, please tell us again your thoughts on Cuba and the Gulf of Mexico. For years now, you have been dodging that question. Gee, I wonder why (not)!

Trickled On,

When you day of you prom arrives when you get in high school just remember, your date is only 2 feet away - as it is now.

Tara Reid

It's was not federal policy that led to their decision to leave California. It was the business climate in California created by the states legislation body. Maybe you should first take business 101 and then maybe you can get a grasp on reality in California. California with all of its rules, fees, and taxes that are anti-business. Believe me the companies that have moved to Texas are not doing it because of some federal politics but the business friendly atmosphere that the state of Texas has created. And believe it or not this migration began in the 1990s and I will not be as childish as the loony liberals are in blaming the president at that time.