'Gloomy' America: Congress, Obama

Just shows you how out of touch Democrats are with the rest of the country, when 74% still approve of this lying Clown.

Just thank of most Democrats as the scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz. If they only had a brain.

Amazing to see how easy it is to mold the publics opinions with the help of over 1 billion dollars of healthcare lobbying dollars marching in stride with the pug machine. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16641

I think there is a great many Americans pissed at congress for not passing a single-payer bill, and not doing it swiftly using lockstep fashion, as there are opponents of healthcare reform. I of course fall in the former category.

I don't agree with Obama that one should've started with the compromise of not doing a single-payer. There is such great case for going that route, and there are great examples of how it worked (Canada etc.).

Ultimately, I put the lion's share of the blame on DNC, for running such a loose party. I think it is OK to be loose some of the times, but given the direction that bush and the pug majority have sent this country over the last 30 years, now is the time to do as much fixing as possible.

That 's what happens when you let clowns like Mitch McConnell and Boehner stall, stall, stall, stalll.

Turn on the evening sessions of the House, or the 1 minute speeches, and you'll hear the same ole repetitive Replican rhetoric, over and over.

Public does not understand why senators representing 17 % of the population can veto legislation in the Senate.

Biggest reason for the low low low approval ratings of the Congress:

CSpan.

IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID !!!

The economy is in the toilet, unemployment in my county (Kane) is more than 12 percent, Obama has managed to increase the decifict by $2 trillion in just 421 days -- and instead of doing ANYTHING about it, he's wasting time, money, resources and energy into a bill that won't do what it's supposed to, will cost trillions, will -- when all is said and done and the chicanery is exposed -- INCREASE deficits. And you wonder why our mood is sour?

My 20-year-old (a rabid Obama supporter 2 years ago) said it best yesterday: 'he just doesn't have the experience."

… given the direction that bush and the pug majority have sent this country over the last 30 years, now is the time to do as much fixing as possible.

Posted by: Xcellentform | March 18, 2010 10:27 AM
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That 's what happens when you let clowns like Mitch McConnell and Boehner stall, stall, stall, stalll…

Posted by: ornery | March 18, 2010 10:29 AM
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Xcellentform and Ornery,

I did not realize that the Bush presidency covered a span of 30 years. SURELY you do realize that TODAY the democrats have a 75 vote majority in the House and a 19 vote majority in the Senate.

As Unemployment remains at 9.7 %, OFFICIALLY, with no real “hope” of improvement in sight, the democrats continue to ram through 5,000+ pages of unpopular healthcare gobbledy gook that no normal, sane, rational person can honestly understand. Before that, there was cap and tax. Before that, shovel-ready jobs and green jobs that do not exist. Before that, the possibility of bringing Darth Vader and the Prince of Darkness up on criminal charges.

We have huge deficits with nothing of value to show for it. The only thing missing are the damn clowns running around in circles on bicycles. When do they come out? Is the truly Independent voter supposed to be impressed by this second-rate circus?

Pelosi promised to “Drain the Swamp”. Mustapha promised to “transform America”. And this is what we get. For too many of us, the Titanic has sunk. We are in the cold, icy waters of the North Atlantic while you democrats continue to blame Prince and his horse, Teabag. As a Republican, I fully expect that. If I were an Independent, I would think that my intelligence was being insulted every day by a bunch that couldn’t convince a chicken of any real benefit in scratching around for a worm to swallow. But then, that does leave one more worm for the proletariat to “share” here in this new Land of Nod. Have a nice day.

Xcellentform

If the system in Canada is working so well why do the people that can afford it come to America for medical care. Even their leadership knows this. Could it be they rather get medical care instead of waiting to die because of the rationing of health care services. If you really want a system that we should model our system on then look to the German system. They have had it for nearly a 100 years now.

crooks, why does the US ship their working class by the BUS LOADS up here to buy their medicine? Why do they go to mexico for their medicine and sugery? Hell, I even remember some of the states wanting to buy their medicaid drugs up here in Canada!

You do understand that Premier Danny Williams comes from a state that has half the population of RI spread out over an area that is larger that MT don't you? The second largest city in his area is like 15,000 or so. You do understand that he would have to travel anyways for the procedure, don't you? Oh, and of course, you do understand that the only reason he went to FL was because the benefit to that operation was a slight decrease in recovery time.

What, faux news didn't put that on your spoon for you? Well, I'm shocked!

Dingo, I absolutely agree....the titanic sunk and were all in the frozen water. Who was the captain when it sunk...boy bush. Hell he probably even had his banner posted on the ship. History has proven you can't stop a sinking ship. I hope you grabbed yo mexican herem and headed somewhere way south of the 30th parallel!

My comment about 30 years of destruktion come from my own research. Here's the database without forumulas: http://www.editgrid.com/user/xcellentform/Debt_history_for_congress_and_presidents_2_%281%29 and here is the one with formulas. http://www.editgrid.com/user/xcellentform/Debt_history_for_congress_and_presidents_%281%29 I hear you are good with numbers. What seams to have been the problem for the last 30 years? With that much power in the last 30 years, why didn't the pugs fix any of the structural problems that existed?

I laugh at the tea-baggers and the libertarians that are having their revolt from the pug party (although they'll still vote for a pug when given the choice) and their fake outrage at the pug machine beacause they were too "liberal", or because they weren't "fiscally responsible"......newsflash for you dolts.....they haven't been good with yo money for well over 30 years and the database proves it in my opinion. When they had the numbers and the power (even before shrub), they continued to spend money like fish. They had the power to stop it whenever they wanted to, but instead all they did was give lipservice to the public, and the sheeple loved it.

The titanic sunk dingo, so I'm in Canada now and loving it. You should crunch the numbers of all the foreign dough that is pouring into this healthy economy up here....even though it is a marxist commy haven, or whatever the pugs call it anymore. I wonder how many pugs will still be standing on your lifejacket saying "we've got the best healthcare in the world" and "america is the best place in the world for..." after the collapse, and I will be even more curious to see how many sheeple dolts will be standing their shewing their cuds.

Xcellentform,

I looked at your Excel spreadsheet and the annual deficits. This is data that I already have some familiarity with. Since I was not born in the 70’s or some time after, I do know that Reagan had to spend $$$ to re-build the U.S. military after the disastrous 4 years of jimmy carter. And since there is no more Union of Socialist Soviet Republics, and no Berlin Wall, I would consider those expenditures to have produced something of considerable value to me, future American generations, AND future European generations.

Wars invariably result in deficits. I would suppose that a nation has to decide whether its security and way of life is threatened enough to respond to a perceived threat, or just hope that the threat goes away and no large military expenditures will have to be made to that end. Wars eventually though come to an end. One side wins, one side loses, or both sides lose interest.

Entitlement programs go on forever to the point of bankruptcy. Their initial cost is never accurately projected. The entitlement gets expanded until at some point someone notices that it is going to require 100% of the nation’s annual GDP to meet all of the obligations. Why do we have to go down that path to materialize that inevitable outcome?

In this moment, there are no jobs and no prospect of jobs. Who is concerned about Cap and Tax if you are currently unemployed? Are the cost of insurance premiums in the year 2014 more important that a job in the year 2010? This is the pervasive Gloom In America that these novice socialists, Mustapha and friends, don’t seem to be able to comprehend. They are just CLUELESS with respect to knowing how to fix anything.

Xcellentform, “a Mexican herem”? I think that you mean “harem”, but it’s not quite like that. There is, for me, Math World, Engineering World, and Music World. Engineering World is now like those “Green Jobs”. It no longer exists. Most of my Latina contacts come from needing someone to critique my solo guitar arrangements of jazz, rock, country, classical lite, and Spanish songs that they themselves typically would not be intimately familiar with. Their unfamiliarity with my genre of music, (including the Spanish songs ~standards), makes the critique better and more valuable to me. Then, after I ooh and aah at them on some unworldly level, the pretty Latinas stage their fun in exploiting my weakness for them. It’s a Win-Win in every sense of the term.

Canadians always talk about how great the social services of Canada are, but what would Canada do if someone had some serious issues with your fine country and came at you terrorist commando style for some crazy reason? Does Canada worry a lot about its border, its airspace, its shoreline? Or does Canada know that there is some war-like capitalist country on its southern border called the United States that would surely want to throw in with them on a military kind of operation if that unfortunate situation should arise. Those stupid Americans probably even have a named doctrine to justify their involvement. Do Liberals ever factor national security into their perfect social services economy, or does it just happens organically? Well, o.k., that's the picture that comes most sharply into focus on my radar scope.

Dingo,

The Canadian armed forces have routed out some of the toughest provinences in Afganistan, including Candahar. Since the manufacturing economy is still fluorishing up here, if there was ever a need to nationalize it for a war....it could be done. I'd love to see the states try and do that with a Toyota factory in AL nowadays. the US is VERY far away from being able to mobilize for a WW3.

Also, durring the shrub years, the US managed to make itself as much of a security liability with Canada, as it was any sort of protection. I think it has been said 1000 times, that currently, the US forces are stretched too thin for any other type of real commitment.

Canada plays the same world political card as the Swiss play...that of nutrality. Sure, they have their share of problems with the muslims as well, but show me a country that does not have problems with them. Save for that, it is a peace going nation that spends a fraction of the US's money (per capita) for police and jails. Funny that a healthy, peace-loving, educated, productive, socialized commy country just doesn't have as many problems.

I could EASILY make points that the war mongering states manages to pull itself out of one war and then make a blunder which incites another one. Look at what the states did to the USSR at the closing of WW2. Look what US did with Iran contra. There are many more examples. What I am saying though, is the more a country is involved with policing, fixing, and arming other countries, the more their hands get dirty and toes get stepped on.

Harem, herem, Harlem....what's the difference. Round em up, and head south to the land of taquilla.

Excellentform,

Clearly I have far more respect for your country than you do for mine. If all Hell were to totally break loose this week-end, I would think that the Brits, Australia, and Canada would be there, in the game, with the United States to set things right. I have tremendous respect for that kind of sacrifice.

My point to you, or any Canadian, is this: Canada, nor anyone else allocates nowhere near the fraction of its GNP to maintaining a military deterrent that I KNOW is necessary to keep the despotic, tyrannical, For-Real-Fascist, Today-is-as-good-of-a-day-as-any for-an-old-fashioned-Holocaust, rogue, Nations of the World in check. Only the United States of America takes on that expensive obligation and life-death commitment in a very serious way. THIS is the difference between the thinking of a fine Liberal, such as yourself, and a Conservative, such as I. That’s Django, with a “j” ~ D-j-a-n-g-o . Peace through weakness will only get us all killed. If the ignominious, pathetically weak, jimmy carter is your kind of guy, then we will certainly just have to always be worlds apart.

As a guy of Math World, I can generate a polynomial power series through just a few terms to show anyone that a Ponzi scheme has to fail at some point, a point that comes sooner than later. It is so intuitive to me that expanding entitlements cannot work indefinitely. I am so sorry that brilliant, transformative, “Constitutional” law experts cannot seem to understand that. California seems to be living THAT dream now.

As usual, we have deviated from the subject of this fine article of the Swamp. Lighten up on my special friends, the awesome, pretty Latinas. I have a great arrangement of the jazz classic “Flamingo” (Fla-MIN-go) newly added to my repertoire. When I played Fla-MIN-go for Marissa, it became “Ma-RIS-sa”, a song that as far as she knows, was written by me, D-j-a-n-g-o, especially for her. Let her not learn the truth.

Lighten up on Mexico. The people of Mexico are great on many levels. Unfortunately Mexico has yet to be the sum of its parts. I’m keeping “hope” alive that at some point during my lifetime, it may. Socialism that I can understand. Peace ~ I’m all for it. Weakness just doesn’t seem to impress the right type of people.

d-j-a-n-g-o,

God that was hard to type! What I am saying, is that the states is just chasing it's tail with the military. It's a perverse game of whack-em-mole. Is it, in a way, noble, sure. Will it be cited as one of the causes of the downfall....certainly.

For the record, I am still an American, and I've only been in Canada for about a year.

I have no beef with anyone, of any color, that obeys the laws of the land. Some laws are made to be broken, and some are not. I could care less if someone doesn't belt up in their car, but crossing a border is breaking a big law.

I shouldn't have to remind you that I am a liberal leaning person, and thus, race, religion, sex, etc., are completely equal in my eyes.

You'll also have to explain the entitelment ponzie scheme to me sometime. For SS, there are far fewer people that draw on it than have ever put into it. Also, to the best of my knowledge, SS has never taken money from the US government. That said though, this statement might have to be ammended in the future due to its current insolvency. The root causes, as I see it, are the rising health costs, the longer life spans, the inability for American's to cope with death, the pug's unfunded part D expansion, and the abuse that occurs to the capatilism-based concept in America.

Possibly one of the most understated points, is the American's inability to cope with death. Most other societies spend their whole life trying to live healty and when death comes knocking, accept it and move on. In America, you piss on your health until there is a serious problem, and then life is the only thing that matters, despite the costs and the uphill battle that may ensue. How do you change that mindpattern? I don't think you can right now. America would need to muster a WW2 determination to fix its problems, and by watching this healthcare debate, I would say they are incapable of even getting to first base.

Horrible Form,

For someone that types 65 wpm, I'm not sure why 11 characters would be that hard for a professional receptionist like yourself. For future reference, its "whack-a-mole".

How a Ponzi scheme works is that the first people to put their money into a scheme have to have future suckers to keep putting money into the scheme and it must go on for perpetituity or else it will fail.

In Social Security case, people started paying taxes in 1937 at 1% of their salary with annual cap of $60 (employee and employer's share). Now that tax rate is 6.2% (six times larger) and pay up to $13,243 per year in tax (220 times higher than when SocSec first started. The Ponzi scheme needs keep putting more money in the pot. With the baby-boom generation hitting retirement and the fact that they didn't have a lot of children, the Ponzi scheme is in trouble. Same concept works for Medicare. You are not having taxes withheld from your paycheck and put in your own personal lockbox like Al Gore thought. Your taxes are now paying for today's recipient with the promise from the gov't that you will be paid by the next generation.

The sad thing about Social Security is say were allowed to get those taxes every year and have it invested in a low-risk investment over your working lifetime - you would have a lot more money for retirement than the monthly stipend you will recieve from Social Security. In addition, your social security savings are not able to be passed to you offspring. If you die before age 65, you have paid into the fund, but reap zero of the benefits (except survivor beneifts).

See the link for the historical incraese in Sociasl Security and Medicare tax rates and salary caps. Do you think the gov't will hold down the cost of BOCare as they are saying they will?

http://www2.med.umich.edu/prmc/media/newsroom/details.cfm?ID=1514

I shouldn't have to remind you that I am a conservative person, and thus, race, religion, sex, etc., are completely equal in my eyes.

Americans don't take care of teir health and as a matter of fact, the average American will spend 1/3 of their lifetime healthcare cost in the last year of their life. As for Americans taking care of themselves, do you think the American gov't is helping. Recent study by the university of Michigan showed that children who eat school lunches are more likely to be overweight.

http://www2.med.umich.edu/prmc/media/newsroom/details.cfm?ID=1514

While you are up in Canada sponging off our neighbors to the north, see if run into another former SWAMP poster, (he couldn't handle losing all the arguments) Scottie Girl.