Karl Rove: 'Courage and Consequences'

The revisionism has already begun. Raving Rove is a little late with the latest revision of the Bush&Cheney years. By now, we all know it was President Obama and Vice-President Biden that lied us into the Bloodbath in Baghdad, signed into law the Drug windfall profits for the Pharmaceuticals and of course, unleashing the Greed of Wall Street. What I want to know is, will Raving Rove and Ludicrous Limpbag admit to Bush&Cheney ever being in Office !!? Pack your bags, Republican-Libertarian-T.Baggers, you going on a long sabbatical. Your mission, should you accept, will be to reinvent or recreate the fair-minded, liberty-loving Republican Party, which cowered out and has been gone for too long.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Turd Blossom. Bush's brain. Another hypocritical and dishonest false patriot. Another Republican swine who hasn't served a day in uniform. Rove should be in federal prison, along with the other yellowbelly chickenhawks...Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz, and Pearl.

Wow pointing out that politicians lie nothing new there. What he should have pointed out is how the media went along with the lie. The world was saying that there were WMDs there. The Democrats were saying they were there. And yes even the media reported there were weapons there. But as soon as the Democrats started lying the media started to cover for them in the lie. That's what I find disturbing. The politicians lie all the time no matter their party or ideology.

CUE THE LOONIE LIB FLATLINER COMMENTS IN 3 . . .2 . . .1 . . .

Hmmm, Mark Silva, please answer this one question:
In your hit piece here, you basically say Rove was responsible for "outing" Plame. So, Mark, my question to you is: Wasn't it Dick Armitage? Actually, let's make that two questions. In fact, Mark, didn't both Armitage and Robert Novak say it was Armitage who "outed" Plame?
Yet, nowhere in your hit piece here, do you even mention that fact. You just note Rove and Scooter Libby.
It is corruption when a journalist lets innuendo and personal biases get in the way of facts.

It doesn't take 'courage' to be a bully. The Rove/Bush admin. bullied all of us by using the word "unpatriotic" when we said or wrote that the "war" was based on lies and when we protested all the "emergency" war funding. We were right on all accounts. Only the first funding should have been "emergency". After that, it was a known commodity and should have been put smack in the heart of America's budget. I mean, the "war" was breaking our hearts with all the death and maiming, wasn't it? It was taking away from any and all domestic policy funding, wasn't it? (At least Obama recognizes this and is being honest about the budget.) The Iraq "war" was later proven to be based on lies and the trillions spent on it are going to be biting us and our children in the back for decades. Ms. Piggy Rove, Cheney and Bush helped to ruin the American economy and our outlook of life for the next decade. They kicked us down and in the gut. They should be put to the gallows. Who would buy such a piece of crap as a book with the Rovian lies? Who has the Bush-Paulson-Cheney TARP Recession dollars to buy it? Reading it would just be more abuse. Profits from any books, speeches or Offense--yes, Offense, not Defense-- industry dividends should be given to the families of dead or injured soldiers. None of the liars should profit from killing our military children, husbands/wives, and fathers/mothers. The liars should pay with their lives and their treasure. We will never forget. No passes to the traitors. Grimms Fairy Tales anyone?

Dan Rather Thinks Obama is Articulate but Can't Sell Watermelons
Yes, but Dan's not a racist. He's a liberal.
"Listen, he's a nice person, he's very articulate,' this is what's going to be used against him. But he couldn't sell watermelons if it--you gave him the state troopers to flag down the traffic."
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/03/dan_rather_thinks_obama_is_art.html

He's a slimebag who uses negativity and lies to win, and it has proven to be effective. His ideas are not new or revolutionary, the technique has been used throughout history successfully. And he's lying now in his book, because that's what he does. He cannot hold a marriage together and was barely able to find a publisher willing to publish his book. The best thing the republican party could do for their image is to dump him.

Clown,

Yes they all lie, it's how they get into office in the first place.

But to blame the mistake in Iraq on the dems and the media is absurd.

The reason we ended up there is because we have a horribly complacent and frightfully non-liberal media in this country. They never seriously questioned the barrage of lies coming from Bushco.

GOING DOWN?
Obama's All Time Low: Index: -21% Strongly Approve: 22%, Strongly Disapprove: 43%, Approval: 43%
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Cue the pug diversions in 3...2...1...

Rove is one of the most evil people the US has ever put out. He took his notes well from his predecessor Atwater, but at least Atwater took the high road in the end....appologizing for what he did to this country, rather than try to revise history.

Why didn't he just write the notes for the docents and tour guides of the W Library (aka Worst President Ever Museum) at Texas A&M? Check out the Halliburton wing...

Crooks_in_DC, sorry to break it to you at this late date, but there weren't any WMDs in Iraq. Never. Kennedy was right when he said that the Bush administration was lying about them. Bush had been gunning for Saddam ever since the elder Bush had been the target of an Iraqi assassination attempt in April, 1993. It was a case of, you try and kill my daddy, I'm going to kill you. It didn't matter what intelligence sources were saying, Bush was going after Saddam, and they misrepresented the intelligence they did have to convince Congress and the American people that Iraq was an imminent threat. We were duped into the war and all the soldier's lives wasted since are the responsibility of Bush, Rove, Rumsfeld and the rest of the shoot-first, think-later band of deceivers.

Here's the grade that really's gonna count if you find yourself at the next ground zero:

Obama Gets 'F' on Stopping Spread of Weapons of Mass Destruction
By Judith Miller
- FOXNews.com

In a 19-page report card being published Tuesday, the bipartisan Commission on the Prevention of Weapons of Mass Destruction, Proliferation and Terrorism gives the Obama administration an "F" for failing to take key steps the commission outlined just over a year ago in its initial report.

So tens of thousands (perhaps hundreds of thousands) of innocent Iraqis - are dead because of this brutal and unjustified assault, and the only thing for which Rove takes responsibility is a weak response to shore up Bush's image in the press.

Rove admits that the Congressional authorization for war would not have been approved without W.M.D.'s. That certainly raises the likelihood that a Bush administration determined to embark on this strategy would provide the Congress with what they wanted, whether or not it was true. And the Bush administration's determination has been well documented, even to the point of trying to pin 9/11 on Saddam Hussein two years before the Iraq war began.

Rove also admits that the Bush administration could have developed "other ways to constrain" the Iraqi regime. So the oft-repeated insistence that war was the last resort is and was a lie. By conceding that alternatives were available, Rove makes it clear that the military solution was the only one to which they gave serious consideration.

And for all of the human costs, including more than 4,000 Americans, Rove is only sorry for not having conducted a better PR campaign. He does not apologize for the loss of life. He does not apologize for depleting our nation's treasury. He does not apologize for soiling our reputation internationally. The only reputation he is concerned with his his own. And the thousands of grieving American families don't enter into his consciousness - not to mention the many thousands more in Iraq.

If that isn't enough, in another excerpt from the book Rove expresses his regret for the ill-advised fly-over of New Orleans after Katrina. Once again, his concern is for the unflattering appearance of his actions, not for the suffering of the people on the ground. His appalling egocentrism is displayed in utmost clarity when he reveals that, not withstanding the horrors of 9/11, Iraq, and Katrina, the thing that drove him to tears was when he learned that he would not be indicted by the special prosecutor in the Valerie Plame leak case.

What a despicable waste of flesh. And this is the man presently employed by Rupert Murdoch to provide insight into the public affairs of our government and social institutions. The question I have is how would Rove know anything about the human interest stories he is being asked to comment on? Wouldn't being human be a requirement for such a job?

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But as soon as the Democrats started lying the media started to cover for them in the lie. That's what I find disturbing. The politicians lie all the time no matter their party or ideology.

Posted by: Crooks_In_DC | March 10, 2010 8:40 AM
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Really? The 'media' lied for the Democrats in the lead up to Iraq?

When did that happen, Clown?......oh that's right, it didn't!

Clown, it's better to be thought a fool than to open your piehole and remove all doubt.

HHH, you speak of the tens of thousands who died because of our invasion of Iraq. I ask, what about the 1 million or so Hussein killed and tortured over the years?
Iraq is on a solid path to continued freedom and democracy -- no thanks to the Demoncrats. All thanks to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Patraeus, who you goons were calling Betrayus two to three years ago.
oBOWma, Biden, Clinton and the rest of the idiots all opposed Patraeus, yet he was right.
Now these crooked nitwits are trying to take credit for something they opposed!]
Regarding WMDs, the whole world thought Hussein had them and they did find a few, but nothing like what everyone thought.
If Bush and Rove lied abiout WMDs in Iraq, then as pointed out, so did Clinton, Reid, Daschle, Clinton, Clinton, Gore, et al.

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HHH, you speak of the tens of thousands who died because of our invasion of Iraq. I ask, what about the 1 million or so Hussein killed and tortured over the years?Iraq is on a solid path to continued freedom and democracy -- no thanks to the Demoncrats.
Posted by: John D | March 10, 2010 4:01 PM
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Lil Johnny Psychopath,

Clinton didn't invade and occupy Iraq for no reason, you moron.

The Iraq invasion NEVER SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED, Saddam was NEVER a threat to us. Innocent people died (Iraqi's and Americans) because Shrub Jr and The Dick Cheney decided that they were going to invade Iraq going all the way back to when Shrub Jr stole Florida and "won" the 2000 pres election.

That's called a WAR CRIME, Lil Johnny! And just because someone else does it doesn't mean it's ok for us to do it too. We aren't a nation full of petulant 5 years olds.

"Regarding WMDs, the whole world thought Hussein had them and they did find a few, but nothing like what everyone thought." John D

Johnny,

WMD is an acronym for Weapons of Mass Destruction, emphasis on Mass. So finding even one would have been a big deal. Contrary to your claim, none were found. You're wrong as usual.

I won't even bother with your claim that ""the whole world" thought he had them. That's your own false intelligence. Wrong as usual.

Tickle Me Massa

Yes I blame all of them for not doing their due diligence. I laid the blame at the feet of all world leaders who were saying at the time that there were weapons there. I laid the blame at the feet of our leaders in both parties here in the US who were saying at the time there were weapons there. And to even suggest that the mainstream media does not have a liberal bias is just ignorance. And how Bush/Cheney got into office was by winning the election.

Mike_from_Chicago

Did you even understand my post? I never said there was weapons there. Most of the government around a world where saying there were at that time. Democrats and Republicans here were saying there were weapons there at the time. Try reading my post a little slower this time. I was pointing out how a lot of the people that were saying there were weapons there changed their story once the troops were in there. And being former military some stuff that was said by our Congress people was treasonous. So what you're saying is most of the world leaders got together to deceive the Congress and the American people, hilarious.

Triple H.

Oh my God you are just a boxer rocks. Where in my post did I say anything about the lead up to the war. I am talking about what the Democrats said before it started and then what they said after it had begun. And how the media went along when the Democrats change their tune. So little weed Wacker smacked down again, maybe you need to keep your pie hole shut. I've kind of noticed when it comes to your post that you hardly ever reply after a smacked down. And when you do it's usually a cut and paste job or childish name-calling.

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Spread of Weapons of Mass Destruction
By Judith Miller
Posted by: Free to Watch Liberals Meltdown | March 10, 2010 1:09 PM
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Crying Wingnut,
Um yeah.....and that would also be the very same Bush stenographer (Judith Miller) who in the run-up to Iraq published Bush and Cheney lies/talking points on WMD's in Iraq as if they were "facts".
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http://www.nybooks.com/articles/16922
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Try again, Biff...

If dems can be so "fooled" by in their words, the most stupid, incompetent president, they must really be lacking in the brainpower department. But as Rove points out, within one week the talking points changed and somehow the ones that had been lying to us turn around and blame bush for lying.

The dems overwhelmingly supported going to war in Iraq, recognizing that Sadaam had killed 100s of thousands with WMDs. Were the dems lying about that too? Was the UN lying about WMDs when they passed all those resolutions under Clinton?

Do you braindead libs think that bush should have prevented 911 because Clinton passed along a general threat assessment or that bush should have heeded the 8 yrs of intelligence Clinton passed along on WMDs. Why was Clinton lying to the American people?

Obama lies to you people every day and you lap it up and spread it around like so much manure. I'm beginning to think that libs are the most gullible unthinking people in this country. You actually seem to enjoy being lied to, no wonder you can't tell that Rove is telling the truth. You can't handle the truth.

Johnny....you're starting to sound like a bleading heart again with no fiscal responsibility.

Don F., if you haven't read the book , don't try to comment on it. Same to Don R., Booby Mobbie, Tom, and HHH. How can tou possibly refute the statements in the book without reading it? No one is interested in your opinions just to have an opinion; post something constructive or stay away!

Operation Desert Storm proved Saddam had nothing but Scuds. Therafter, we were watching everything that went into Iraq per our stranglehold on it 1991-2003, including our sanctions on anything that smacked of a chemical. Thus, we know that all that "mushroom cloud" talk was nonsense. Both parties were guilty of outright, serial lies.

Karlito Turdblossom makes his move to cash in.

Unfortunately, enough of the truth has already been let out of the bag about his bosses.

Still, a Truth Commission should have been convened ASAP last year.

See if I was right this Nov.

Walkie Wawtmire

You better check a little harder about Operation Desert Storm. Because we did destroy a few of their chemical weapons plants and stockpiles. And at that time we also destroyed the beginning of a nuclear weapons program. But I find is a lot of ignorance when it comes to what was said and done over the weapons this time. It is documented that Iraq had to keep up the appearance of having WMDs because all of Iran. It is mute really because we found this out after we had gone in. But, you cannot deny that Hussein had chemical weapons because he had used them against his own people and in the Iraq/Iran war. There are two documentary programs about his weapons and his manufacturing of them, one ran on the History Channel and the other on Frontline.

Crooks Infest DC,
I actually agree with you (for the most part) and I did see the Frontline presentation regarding Hussein and his chemical weapons. It was very informative. Let's not forget Hussein obtained his chemical weapons from...the United States. When he used them against the Kurds, the U.S. government was...silent about it. As you know, we wre allies with Iraq and Hussein. When boy George deceived us into Iraq, all the WMD's, including the chemical and nuclear weapons, were destroyed. There was nothing there. The invasion was contrived. Most people know Iraq was not a threat to the U.S. or Israel (both countries who could wipe Iraq off the map in an afternoon's time).

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It is corruption when a journalist lets innuendo and personal biases get in the way of facts.
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Posted by: John D | March 10, 2010 9:37 AM
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Geographically Stupid LIttle Johnnie D - when have you NOT let your personal biases get in the way of facts?

Of course the right wing crackpots will defend this mope. He along with Crazy Dick and other neo-con nuts practically wrecked the country, and are responsible for the deaths of thousands of
Americans in their trumped-up war.

Sad thing is I'm sure they all sleep just fine at night. That's the nice thing about not having any conscience. whatsoever--just like all conservatives. These are the same biggoted, sexist, xenophoebic and reactionary idiots who want to go back to the "good old days" .You know when we had slavery, no voting for women, and were isolated from the rest of the world. Or in the case of these conservatives, isolated from reality.

Did I have to go and listen to a KKK speech, or would you say, I could take an educated guess, as to what was going to be discussed !!? You take a really wild guess, "dlk", I'm sure you will be close to the right answer !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Iraq had no nuclear threat (mushroom cloud). The chemical weapons it used on Iran and the Kurds it obviously had long before 1991-2003. Cloud, you already knew that, mang.

Doug R.

How did he get the weapons from the United States? What I remember is that they were manufactured in Iraq using equipment mostly bought from Germany and France. As with most of their weapons were from Germany and France. During the Iraq/Iran war all America provided was intelligence in the form of satellite pictures. The reason why the first Iraq war was conducted had nothing to do with WMDs it was the fear he would invade Saudi Arabia next. And his chemical weapons were destroyed by the coalition after the cease-fire. You can find the Frontline program on its website. You may need to re-watch it.

Walkie Wawtmire

Go educate yourself on the subject because you're only looking like a fool.

Free Speech, R.I.P.

There have always been accepted limitations on the First Amendment guaranty of freedom of speech.

Americans are reasonably restricted from blaring, “Fire!” in any crowded building when there is no fire. We are understandably refused permission to exercise free speech when that speech is designed to incite insurrection and sedition, although various courts have unfortunately loosened that prohibition.

The right to free speech and the untrammeled exercise thereof are the cornerstones of our Republic, cornerstones we ignore at great peril to the Constitution and to what we are as Americans.

However, we’re now witnessing not a whittling away of that most fundamental right but a wholesale dismantling being conducted in the interests not of society as a whole but at the insistence of what has become an extremely powerful, minority interest group: the homosexual lobby.

Nowhere is the power of that group more evident than in the state with one of the richest heritages of patriotism which has become a cesspool of liberalism and, now, denial of First Amendment privileges, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

The former land of Patrick Henry, John Hancock, the Boston Tea Party, and “the shot heard ’round the world” . . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1559)

And for anyone making a war crimes case:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/12/waterboarding-terrorism-guantanamo-karl-rove

Crook refuses to distinguish between chemical and nuclear, the point being "Operation Iraqi Freedom" was conducted as an oil grab, not because Saddam could have launched a mushroom cloud attack, not because Paul Wofowitz and Co wanted to "spread democracy."

P.S. Israel took out Iraq's only nuclear reactor in 1981--it was never re-built. Rove, Feith et al. are criminals but they get a pass because they're not "liberals." It's laughable although it's not funny.

Walkie Wawtmire

Like I said you need to educate yourself on this subject or you only look like a fool. If it was an oil grab why have we not grabbed the oil? Why are we winding down operations there without taking over the oil fields? And do you know who the reactor was named after? And did you know he was selling weapons to Iraq almost until the war started in 2003 can you name that person? Go watch the show on Frontline about Iraq I believe there are three different programs. And if water-boarding 100 terrorists ends up saving one American life I say where's the board. And if you don't like it too bad take your panties and move along.

What courage?
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-419488?hpt=Sbin

Crook, you're good at name-calling but nothing else.

Walkie Wawtmire

What you do not like being called out for being ignorant on a subject. Tell me do you know what NBC warfare is? I keep asking questions and throwing real fact at you and that's the best you have getting upset because I pointed out you look foolish. Stay on the porch where you belong.

I guess we need to be reminded:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/14/opinion/14rich.html?hp

It was an oil grab, but Bush & Co. badly miscalculated....

Here's what a writer from the Dallas Morning News said about the book on CNN:

"This is part a legacy rebuilding project—varnish the legacy—give Bush credit for everything that went right. Blame the opponents and adversaries for everything that went wrong." (http://bit.ly/azzjDe)

Or, as it's also known, "politics."

I thought there were laws against profiting from criminal acts? Why isn't Rove behind bars, or in Gitmo?

I used to be against the Iraq war, but in retrospect I know it was absolutely the correct thing to do. All this whining about it reminds me of the South Park episode where the people secretly want a strong leader to protect them but publicly rail against him to make themselves look compassionate. As for Karl Rove's book, Courage and Consequences, I absolutely loved it, especially the subtle humor. I hope to shake his hand on the book tour and thank him for being a great American.