Nancy Pelosi: Healthcare bill 'going to be'

That is one crazy lady and I cannot wait until they kicked her to the curb. But seeing the district she represents she will probably keep waiting reelection. At least we can do is to kick her out of her position of power. And once she is not in that position I believe because of the way she treated fellow members she will find it very hard.

MAYBE VOTERS WILL LOOK AT THE WHITE COATS INSTEAD OF THE BILL!!
President Uses White Coat Prop... Again
http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/03/03/president-uses-white-coat-prop-again/

Nancy Pelooony needs to be locked up in the Loony Bin with all the other deranged Leftists out there.
By 3-1 the American people DO NOT WANT this health care bill. They want it thrown in the garbage where it belongs and to start all over on a bill that will bring true reform, that will incorporate market-based principles and will not exacerbate the already out-of-control budget deficits.
Pelooony and Obama clearly are the two biggest LIARS this country has ever seen.
Lock both up. NOW!

Dear Editor:

I am insulted by President Obama’s brazen attack on the unborn as he tries to ram through a very unpopular healthcare bill that provides government funding of abortion. Poll after poll show Americans are against this yet Congress is insistent, almost obsessed, on trying to pass healthcare reform.

Abortion is not healthcare, as the abortion industry and President Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid would like Americans to believe, and it should not be mandated under any health insurance plan, especially one that Americans will be forced to subsidize. The proposed healthcare bill amounts to a bailout for the abortion industry, which is swimming in profits already and will result in the largest expansion of abortion since Roe v. Wade.

Tell Congress to vote no on any healthcare bill that does not include specific language to explicitly exclude abortion from any healthcare legislation.

Sincerely,

All wrong, tax and penalties on businnesses. How does this improve job growth and the economy?? Lock and load, take back Democracy in November.

Thanks to President Obama, Nancy Pelosi and the Dems for finally taking it to the crybaby Republicans. Now that Republicans have fully revealed how little they care about American citizens, I think the whole meme about how the Dems are going to lose big in November should be put to rest. If the Dems who are running this fall use the YouTube clips of the lies and propaganda that Republicans have told during the health care debate they won't need to hire ad writers. The Republican mouth-breathers will write the ads for themselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCqQRflUWd4

Ethics? Schmethics! Part One

Ethics: the rules of conduct recognized in respect to a particular class of human actions or a particular group, culture, etc. (Dictionary.com)

There’s something about celebrity whether achieved in the entertainment arena or in that other entertainment arena, politics, that imbues stars with a sense of entitlement to greater power, to greater greed, to a greater number of the opposite sex.

They tend to forget those “rules of conduct.”

It must be the adulation from enthralled audiences that convinces many entertainment and political celebs that they’re exceptional, above it all, the cat’s meow as was said in olden times, and not subject to the same moral and ethical constraints applicable to the hoi polloi.

In politics, ethical lapses are certainly not confined to Democrats. Remember Florida Congressman Mark Foley and South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford. (Maybe it’s the name, Mark?)

However, Democrats are just so damned good at perverting power that they can’t be denied the title of Consummate Ethical Thrashers.

If Ya Can’t Beat ‘Em, Buy ‘Em! President Obama learned that trick of the political trade from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid: Stifle recalcitrance with remunerations. Or maybe he learned it in Chicago, but there they usually just smash kneecaps.

Harry bought the Obamacare vote of Senator Mary Landrieu . . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1538)

But Obumbles was surrounded by doctors who were wearing white lab coats when he gave the deadline for passing of this healthcare excrement.

WHITE. LAB. COATS. PEOPLE!!!!!!! It can't miss.

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I am insulted by President Obama’s brazen attack on the unborn as he tries to ram through a very unpopular healthcare bill that provides government funding of abortion.
Posted by: Michele Roman | March 4, 2010 2:05 PM
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There is NO gov't funding for abortion in the health care bill, period, end of story. Quit listening to the liars on Faux News would ya.

If you right wing fringers really want to get abortion outlawed then get your Republican members of congress to outlaw it, otherwise shut up and quit trying to tell women what they can and can't do with their own bodies. But, I can guarantee that your Republican leadership won't do it because if they actually did it it would mean that they wouldn't have any buttons left to push to get you far right wing religious freaks to march to the polls and blindly vote for them all the time.

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But Obumbles was surrounded by doctors who were wearing white lab coats when he gave the deadline for passing of this healthcare excrement.WHITE. LAB. COATS. PEOPLE!!!!!!! It can't miss.

Posted by: Chris | March 4, 2010 5:48 PM
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Yeah, maybe Obama should have surrounded himsef with Repugs who want to make sure that Americans continue to get rear-ended by the Corporate Health Insurance Industry bean counters, right Chrissy?

A vote delayed until late March will give Obama more time to bribe Congressmen with federal judge appointments for their relatives. Like he did with Cong. Matheson...

The irony of voting for public funding to kill babies, during Easter, appears lost on the libs that crammed through their bills on Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Meanwhile the liar in chief has abandoned all pretext of transparency by asking both Houses to sign onto a bill that no one has seen, few will influence and no one will read.

However, as long as there are judgeships to be traded, states to be bought off, gay men to be outed, the vote count will continue to rise. Our tax dollars, in the hands of this corrupt administration and the socialists in Congress, can buy a lot of influence. Chicago is the model.

The quotes are very funny Mark. "If you believe these three things..." Brilliant, she's not saying they are facts or truths or promises, just things. Lies are things, Nancy. Whereas facts can be proven by evidence - reading of the exact language for example, members of Congress are being asked to believe. Not believe in the facts but rather statements from someone who has proven willing to destroy people's careers if that is what it takes to pass this bill. Good luck with that dems, this whole fight will come down to whether you can believe what your leadership says.

The question remains, does Nancy lie to the conservative dems who are likely to get tossed in November for supporting this bill or lie to her lib base who are insisting that government should pay to kill babies? My guess is she has already written off the conservative dems in favor of her race of uber libs. "Just support us on this bill and later we will make all the necessary changes you've asked for...step this way please" Right out of the mid 30's Worker's Party playbook.

Here's how the Democrats inserted abortion funding into this bill:

"Under the House bill, insurers would be required to provide an “essential benefits package,” which would be defined by the Secretary of Health and Human Services. Unless Congress specifically excludes abortion from coverage, it is a virtual certainty that abortion will be part of that package either because it will be overtly required by the Secretary of HHS, or because the courts will determine that the broadly worded coverage requirements include abortion."

Why didn't the Greedy Oil Party push for HCR in the eight Bush years if it was so important to them? Because the GOP and their benefactors like the status quo.

Why didn't Republicans insist on paying for the Iraq and Afghan wars instead of forcing our grandchildren to pay for it? Why all the concern about paying for things now but NONE during the Bush years?

GOP = HYPOCRITES!

For all their bluff and bluster, the Republicans are done with this and they know it. They tried to prop up the Corporate health Insurance Industry criminals with their phony astroturfed Teabaggers and they lost.

It's time to get it on the President Obama's desk ASAP and make sure some things kick in immediately, like ending pre-existing conditions, allowing young adults to be covered by parents' policies, etc. The GOP "talking point edge" on this will then fall down in the face of reality.

Then we can start the Medicare-for-everyone campaign and we can have actual HCR, not just HIR.

Here's what you will get, America, once the Dem bill is defeated and the Republics are back in charge:
The same 'system' you have today with the following added features.
1. No recourse in the courts when your life is destroyed by medical malpractice.
2. A health savings account. The Pubs think the average American family of 4 has enough extra cash sloshing around in their paychecks to save up for their healthcare, in fact all their healthcare, because under the current Republican system employer ins. is going away.

But the people that have destroyed this once in a generation chance to reform healthcare have bought the current turd of a system. The status quo mess we have currently has now become the Republican healthcare plan.

Besides one and two above, in two or three years your ins. premiums will go up perhaps 100%. And that won't be the end of it. They may do it again. Also, it's likely your current employer will drop medical insurance as a benefit altogether.

The abortion issues is just another culture war distraction. If it's a legal procedure it should be covered. If it gets criminalized it won't get covered.

Move along! Nothing to see here, just an unhinged lady with a rapidly slipping grasp of reality. They are "strong and effective"? Is she kidding? This is starting to look like a bad episode of the Untouchables with Rahm as Frank Nitti and Obama as Capone. We've got payoffs, kickbacks, corruption, threats, intimidation, backstabbing, organized crime. The only thing missing is a Louisville Slugger and gallons of bathtub gin. Was this the Change and Hope America was looking for? I hope not. Been a heck of a week for the President! http://patrioticmobster.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/its-been-a-great-week-for-the-president/

"The irony of voting for public funding to kill babies, during Easter, blah blah blah..."

Hans,

No, the irony is Easter bunny, egg hunts, Black Friday, the Thanksgiving 'we loved the Indians' myth.
In fact, the whole American perversion of Christmas and Easter as consumption orgies is the real irony.

Your problem, Hans, is you look at a woman and see a walking crime wave.

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Under the House bill, insurers would be required to provide an “essential benefits package,” which would be defined by the Secretary of Health and Human Services. Unless Congress specifically excludes abortion from
Posted by: Equal time | March 4, 2010 7:22 PM
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Slobby Mobbie,
Abortion is LEGAL in this country and this bill doesn't FUND abortions it gives insurance coverage to women who have to have an abortion, period, end of story. If you right wing sociopaths want to make abortion illegal then you might as well go ahead and move to Somalia because it isn't going to happen for you here in America.

Your Rethug team has already lost the health care fight you Clown, you can keep making up stuff all you want but it doesn't matter anymore - your team got their butts kicked...again. You lie so much that no one on here believes anything you say anyway.

"People can say what "they want,'' House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said today, but there "is going to be'' a healthcare bill."-----------------------------------------------In other words, we don't give a crap that the majority of americans oppose this horrible bill, we are shoving it down your throats weather you like it or not. What a bunch of arrogant fools.

C.Morris✧

Why do you loony liberals keep using the DMC's debunked talking points. The majority of the voters want real healthcare reform just not this bill. I have posted before a few things that can be done that would help lower the cost of healthcare. Funny thing is after reading the House version of the healthcare bill a few of the big obvious savings schemes are not in. But I did find 14 taxes. They give the trial attorneys a complete pass which means on the low end they are giving up $200 billion in savings each year for one example. Right now the insurance companies are raising the premiums because of what is in the bill and that is another thing that I have suggested a Rate Regulatory Committee. Just like most states have a committee that watches utility rates and must approve any increases before they are allowed. Why so many people dislike this bill is because how it was written and the horse trading. And on abortion why are a group of Democrats in the House ready to kill the bill if the wording on abortion is not changed. That would mean there is wording in the Senate version that allows abortions.

Well, those taxes are what pays for part of the plan, unlike everything BushCo did.
And if you really think the Republics once in power are going to do anything to help the American people with healthcare, well I have some credit default swaps to sell you.
Face it, Crooked, the status quo is the Republican plan.

Health Care Reform is Easy

The republicans have used reconciliation on health care before plenty of times - heck they created the whole CHIP program - via reconciliation. Dear lord stop swallowing the kool-aid - this isn't a sporting event my side versus your side (do you think the status quo might be aware of the concept of divide and conquer - don't be such dupes)

People, people, people - this is about getting our dollars back from the richest 1% that hoard them at the top (there is no such thing as trickle down) or For Profit insurance wouldn't be killing the middle class, driving people with health insurance into bankruptcy, and tying a dead weight around small business and even the bigger national corporations - this has to get done - our politicians are playing games to get elected....

they are not "governing" but manipulating voter sentiment to whip up turn out to try and win elections - not based on any specific philosophy of governing but for plain old self interest.

Actual governing takes a huge back seat to "will I get re-elected" - the easiest way to solve the health care debacle of for profit health care is simple - but handing a success to the other party - isn't how the political "game" is played.

Unfortunately our lives are caught in the cross fire of their STUPID GAME. And because of game playing we deregulated everything and created the global financial meltdown - ooppps - maybe proper management would have prevented that - but politics has never been about properly managing our resources - its about GETTING RE-ELECTED.

Healthcare is easy - here's how -

“Use Senate reconciliation and expand Medicare via the Senate’s buy-in provisions. The CBO has already signed off on this as a means of saving money.

More importantly, if more Americans can do a buy-in with Medicare, it creates more cost control (because there’s a genuine competitor to for-profit healthcare).

It also helps to solve the problems of pre-existing conditions, because Medicare does not deny coverage on this basis.

Allowing a Medicare buy-in to Americans under 65 would give people a genuine alternative to private insurance and thereby render the pre-existing question moot.

It would also lower Medicare costs by expanding the risk pool of patients (the great bulk of medical expenses are accounted for by a small number of people, mostly the elderly, requiring very expensive treatment).

And it would substantially enhance the global competitiveness of American corporations. After all, in what other country in the world is health care a marginal cost of production for business?” - Roosevelt Institute Marshall Auerback

Now get out there tell your neighbors, your friends, pick up the phone and email your representatives - because whether you like it or not we are all in this together - and it's us versus the politicians - not each other.

Paul Burke
Author Journey Home
Democracy For America

C.Morris✧

Funny how you bring up credit default swaps seeing how two of Obama's closest financial advisors were the ones along which Greenspan in 1996 that went before Congress and said that they did not need to be regulated and it would hurt the market if they were. Sorry but that little hearing is a matter of public record. And if you think for a minute that we are going to lead Washington sit back and do nothing about health care you are sadly mistaken. What can you not understand about what the majority of the voters want and do not want. What they want is healthcare reform just that it is more important to get right than do it fast. What they do not want is the current tax-and-spend bride filled bill now before Congress. Anybody with a thanking (nonliberal) brain knows that there are two other very important parts they need to be done for healthcare to really be reformed. And these two pieces can be done as separate legislation they are Tort Reform and Immigration Reform. Tort reform is estimated (and this is a lowball estimate) to save $200 billion a year in a reduction in the cost of defensive medicine. In California alone immigration reform would save near half a trillion dollars a year in their medical expenses. But, with both pieces of legislation the Democrats have a problem. The trial attorneys have bought and paid for the liberal in a Congress and illegal immigrants are future Democratic voters and recipients for the free handouts.

The Final Prejudice: Catholicism

L. Brent Bozell concludes his brief essay, “A Year of Anti-Religious Bigotry” with this passage: “Catholicism is the single largest religious denomination in America. In our news and entertainment media today, anti-Catholicism remains ‘the last acceptable prejudice.’ It is not that the cultural left is out of touch. It is out to destroy.”

Sound exaggerated? As a Roman Catholic, I would suggest Bozell’s remarks seem exaggerated only to non-Catholics and to the leftists to whom he refers.

In his book, The Enemy at Home, conservative writer Dinesh D’Souza defines the cultural left as referring mainly to “the left wing of the Democratic Party . . . [including] the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Organization for Women, People for the American Way, Planned Parenthood, Human Rights Watch, and Moveon.org.”

According to D’Souza, among the stars of that group are Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Michael Moore, George Soros, Barbara Boxer, Bill Moyers, Noam Chomsky, and the late Ted Kennedy and its influential allies in Congress, Hollywood, the media, the non-profit sector, and the universities: http://bit.ly/cfEEFR

That’s some powerful army!

D’Souza’s controversial book focuses on the relationship between the cultural left and September 11th, 2001 as opposed to Bozell’s immediate interest in its effect on religion, specifically on Catholicism, which leads to the obvious question of, Why? . . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1542)

Berlet98
You do know that collection plate money from the Catholic Church ended up in the hands of the IRA and subsequently in the hands of Gaddaffy?
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter?

Crooked,
I have repeatedly attacked BHO for his appointments of some of the people responsible for the meltdown. He should have had Krugman, Volcker, and Stiglitz as his top economic team.
And Clinton's great screw up was signing the Phil Graham/Glass Steagall repeal act in 1999. I said so at the time. Not Monday morning Q-backing here.

But the fact a few Dems. helped out with the mess does not excuse all those Reps. and the likes of Greenspan for not deflating the housing bubble, and Moody's for passing off what was worse than junk as AAA rated securities.

And why wasn't BushCO and the Cong Reps. not busy fixing the situation from 2001 to 2007?
Answer: Because they liked it just the way it was. They all thought the fundamentals were sound as late as September 08. Idiots.

C.Morris✧

I agree with you on the first part of your post and I know Republicans played just as big a role as Democrats did. Most financial rating companies were not doing their due delegates for quite a long time. What I always found funny when it comes to the stock market was how a corporation could quarterly report after quarterly report come within a few pennies over and over again on their estimates. They were cooking the books from Wall Street to Washington. I also know that it is a matter of public record where Bush on three occasions tried to rein in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and were stopped by the Democrats who write the rules. I also know it is a matter of public record when people went before the committee that Barney Frank was chairman of asking for tougher regulations and more regulators and then the Democrats calling them; racist and wanting to keep people from buying homes. You can hear the Democrats in their own words in video posted on YouTube. You will also see the Democrats slamming the Republicans on the committee for agreeing with the person testifying. Let's not forget its Barney Frank who said that "Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were fundamentally sound". And within a few months the housing bubble popped. It is all a matter of public record documented in video with the words coming out of their mouths. Just this past week Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were given another $6 billion and they will continue to receive money like this until they are either regulated like they should be or taken apart. I am tired of hearing they are too big to fail. If they are than we are in a very bad way. They should be allowed to fail just like a small business. Before the government got into the business of propping up big corporations now and then one go bankrupt. And in most cases entrepreneurs would step in and fill the gap now with one company but with many smaller leaner meaner companies. We have lost our way and need to find it fast.