Obama: Fifty-plus-one, 'throwing elbows'

Lisening to the Repugs cry about this you'd think they'd never used recociliation before - only they have and they've mainly used it to help enrichen their Billionaire overlords.

Pres Obama had no idea when he took office that the Repugs were going to act like petulant children and abuse the filibuster, now he does and now it's time to start stepping on the Repugs because of it.

Barack is that rarest of political figures:

The more you see, the more you like.

He has, and will continue to have, lotsof political capital to spend.

Who cares about a talk in 2006?

He can still get a bill passed with an overwhelming majority.

So just do it.

I can't say it's a surprise that congressional Republicans think it would be great to start over with health care, or that they're in favor of "incremental" changes. (I'd love to see them get "incremental" health surgery.)

It's no surprise that Republicans have virtually nothing useful to offer on health care, they know people will like it and they don't want the Dems to get credit for passing it. It's that simple to them, they'd rather that people continue to die for lack of health insurance rather that give the Dems a victory.

To Republicans, their illogical fantasies are akin to a child's night terrors. We know there aren't any monsters under the bed, but your Republican "child" doesn't. So you go through the motions of shooing the monsters away so your "child" can sleep.

We know that tort reform has such small influence on malpractice premiums that it's virtually meaningless. Any rational person who looks at the research knows this. What we have now are a lot of Republicans making what they claim are factual assertions that are nothing more than an intellectual construct to support their emotion-driven conclusion.

We know that selling insurance across state lines doesn't solve the health care crisis, either.

We know that the fastest increases in costly diseases are being driven by environmental pollutants and contaminants, so eating right and exercising doesn't solve the health care crisis, either.

But we're left with a Congress where roughly half of them believe their own BS fairy tale talking points (Republicans). And since the ideological wars are driven by the true believer right wing lunatic fringe Tea Klux Klaner's, we simply don't have the time to convert each of them, one by one, to the realities we face.

Which is simply a long-winded way of saying that Harry Reid needs to finish up healthcare legislation through using reconciliation, right now. No more waiting.

People are dying, every single day. We don't need any more to die while we patiently reassure the Republican "children" that their are no monsters under their beds.

Get. It. Done. NOW.

How does it play politically, Mr. President? Very, very well. Thank you! In the end, most people (aside from the truly appalling right-wing teabaggers) will respect your attempts to do what's right, not what's political. This will actually be the breath of fresh air our political system really needs. Now, do it, just don't say it!

Partisan support for ReidPelosiObamaCare.
Bipartisan opposition.

This bill gets us solid ground from which to advance. We get nowhere waiting in the surf for an invitation or the perfect moment. We may not be making all the progress we wanted from this first bill, but to let it go down in defeat would sentence generations of Americans to worse and worse circumstances.

Thanks to President Obama for taking it to the Republicans. Now that they've fully revealed how little they care about American citizens, I think the whole meme about how the Dems are going to suck air in November should be put to rest. If those Dems who are running use the YouTube they don't even have to hire ad writers, the mouth-breathing coming from the Republicans will do all the talking that needs to be done this fall.

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If President Obama is such a fan of up-and-down votes (he isn't, but for the moment we'll pretend he is), will his Democrats allow an up-and-down vote on the amendments offered by the bipartisan opposition to ReidPelosiObamaCare?

My guess is, Up-and-down will resemble Paygo, Transparency, No lobbyists. etc.--Obama policy promises Obama will jettison.

Jan 09- Gallop had Obama at 68 - 12
Today- Gallop has Obama at 52 - 41
16 point drop in Approval
29 point gain in Disapproval
This HC fiasco has hurt his Presidency which he will never recover.
"Twenty years later, I'm one of the most powerful Democrats in the state. I know how to throw an elbow if I have to."
An America will muscle you out the door 2012.

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This HC fiasco has hurt his Presidency which he will never recover."Twenty years later, I'm one of the most powerful Democrats in the state. I know how to throw an elbow if I have to."An America will muscle you out the door 2012.

Posted by: MAJMark | March 3, 2010 7:57 PM
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Spare us the BS right wing talking points crap, Private Mark. Republicans know that people will like health care reform, that's why they've been so desperate to kill it. To Republicans it's all about denying Dems a win on health care reform, they couldn't give a damn about how many people it would help.

And by the way, I've yet to see even one Republican stooge so far who has any chance what-so-ever of defeating Obama in 2012.

Not only will Obama and the Democrats be bypassing the Republicans they will be bypassing the majority of the American voters. Their arrogance will cost them dearly at the ballot boxes. It is known that if you are so idiotic to not know your own history you are just stupid enough to repeat it and it would appear that the Democrats are about to repeat it. In 1854 the Kansas Nebraska act was passed by the controlling political party at that time. The passage of that one act did two things that changed America to this day. It led in no small part to the Civil War. And it destroyed one political party completely and led to the rise of another in less than two presidential election cycles. And today Obama is showing himself as been one of the biggest hypocrites in DC, here he is in his own words;

http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-american-agenda-flashback-dems-should-not-pass-healthcare-with-a-50-plus-1-strategy

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Obama is showing himself as been one of the biggest hypocrites in DC, here he is in his own words;
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Clown in DC,

You actually expect us to believe something from the guy (Breitbart) who bankrolled the accussed felon and phony pimp James O'Keefe? Hahaha!

One of the No votes from the House democrats is Jim Matheson of Utah. Guess whose brother just got nominated for the United States Court of Appeals?

That's right President Obama nominated Matheson's brother Scott M. Matheson, Jr. to the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit.

Most ethical Congress ever.

Amazing how those very people that have sarcastic comments regarding living off unemployment are OBVIOUSLY not trying to find work and raising a family (they sound like young slackers, like Mr. Greg Kendall's comments, who ARE obviously qualified to work, but WON'T work but use freedom of speech to piss REAL people unlike himself, OFF!!) and then the stress this will put on the Moms and Dads of the "American family" that will stress out and fall apart from stress/abuse/etc., that this cut will create domestically... can only pray you find a need, Obama, for what has occurred with our country's jobs falling apart - esp in your old own state Illinois! Thank you "IF"you consider us Illinoisans at all, to save our "family"! :)

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Triple H.

You really are an idiot aren't you. You do not have to believe Breitbart at all it is the video you moron. It's a video of Obama showing how big of a hypocrite moronic president he is but seeing how you fall in to that same character you should like it.

"You actually expect us to believe something from the guy (Breitbart)"...HHH
Did you even bother to go to the link? The video contained nothing but clips of Obama speeches or interviews, without any spoken words by anyone else. If your'e attempting to prove that you will post a comment just to attack someone without bothering to gather facts, you just did.

You actually expect us to believe anything that Obama says, HHH? What has he every said that is true? Ever?

The American people are voting NO to this bill. But Mark says that Democrats welcome the move to jam it down our throats. Well, 73% of us are gonna jam it right back, hopefully where the sun don't shine, my friend.

I do agree that this health care thing can be considered as his ultimate trying time and he is not really handling it very well. America should not be run by throwing elbows here and there Mr. President.

Triple H - That's right, shoot the messenger...the video is Obama at his finest, say one thing and proceed along his liberal idealogical path. Does he not understand these videos make it very easy to illustrate how he lies?

SPEAKING OF TALKING POINTS AND LIES: BREITBART DIDN'T BANKROLL HIM, JUST GAVE HIM A FORUM TO SHINE A LIGHT ON THE COCKROACH KNOWN AS ACORN, SOMETHING THE LAMESTREAM MEDIA REFUSED TO DO. BE AFRAID OF BREITBART, LIBS, VERY AFRAID!!!!
Clown in DC,

You actually expect us to believe something from the guy (Breitbart) who bankrolled the accussed felon and phony pimp James O'Keefe? Hahaha!

This is actually great news as obama and his supporters continue to lenghten the rope on which they'll hang themselves.
Funny how these people complain incessantly that "Bush Lied", yet say nothing as obama is caught lying again and again.
Since Illinois is so corrupt, is being the top democrat a good thing? The state is on the verge of bancruptcy because of the democrats! I guess when you have nothing on your resume, something is better than nothing.
His legacy will be dividing the country more than it's been in 100 years. I hope he fails and that the republicans can stop the damage in November and start reversing it in 2012.

Oh yes, let us praise the post-partisan Obama. Now he's bribing reps to vote for his misguided, enormously expensive plan -- invite a "maybe" to the WH AND offer that rep's brother a judgeship! Let's call that what it is: a bribe.

[[Tonight, Barack Obama will host ten House Democrats who voted against the health care bill in November at the White House; he’s obviously trying to persuade them to switch their votes to yes. One of the ten is Jim Matheson of Utah. The White House just sent out a press release announcing that today President Obama nominated Matheson’s brother Scott M. Matheson, Jr. to the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit]]

Hey Up or Down - exactly how many times have the Republicans used the filibuster in this Congress? Not what Obama said, but the factual number.

Zero.

Some of the comments here are beyond stupid. Why can't you O-supporters break rank and realize hypocrisy when it's right in your face?

The American people don't want this bill as it is. This isn't a "beginning" to be improved upon. This is bloated, bureaucratic failure that will tear apart the healthcare system of this once-great country.

Obama needs to focus on JOBS! This is what he campaigned on, this is what he should focus on.

This health care reform bill is indeed an achievement but the real test of our president will be when we leave Afghanistan.