Sunday healthcare vote: 'Affront to God'

So, let's see, Mark gets his talking points from thinkprogress.com, mediamatters.com, moveon.org, the DNC and the White House because many items of his seem to refer to those sites (just today is thinkprogress and media matters).
The Schiavo case was life or death and had religious implications so perhaps doing something that day was meaningful.
Voting on something that will change 1/6th of the U.S. economy, something polls show the vast majority of Americans are not in favor of, something that has no bipartisan support and never had any bipartisan parts to it, is an affront. Perhaps not to God, but certainly to this nation and its Founding Fathers.

Hahaha! This is sooooo hilarious! I knew we were going to hear some of the Rethuglican leaders calling for help from Republican Jeebus before this was over.

Republicans are losing their crap over the fact that their lies and fear-mongering weren't enough to stop Americans from getting Health Care Reform.

Whatever the merits of the current health care reform bill before Congress, it threatens no one's fundamental rights under the US Constitution. It's high time the Republican leadership and their friends in the Right Wing Noise Machine media stopped inciting anger and hatred among their followers by falsely claiming that it does.

And this isn't the first time that Steve King has opened his mouth and inserted his foot.

"Rep. Steve King (R-IA) told a crowd at CPAC on Saturday that he could "empathize" with the suicide bomber who last week attacked an IRS office in Austin, and encouraged his listeners to "implode" other IRS offices, according to a witness."
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http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/steve-king-to-conservatives-implode-irs-offices.php
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I bet they do not post the bill in time for a vote on Sunday but, they still tried to vote anyway. The number of yes votes at the start of today stood at 205 at this time it now stands at 190.

Steve King is an irresponsible nutcase. That fact that nutjobs like him get elected and re-elected over and over again by Republicans in Iowa is an embarrassment to all of America.

I sure bet Representative King hasn't demanded a break in the killings in Afghanistan and Iraq, where God is really troubled. Unfortunately for Rep. King, that doesn't have anything to do with President Obama, or he would be condemning him for that slaughter in Baghdad, as well !! Under what rocks are they finding these Republican-Libertarian-T.Baggers ?? They sure are a bunch of miscreants !! I bet Representative King and Senator Brown are cousins, I just can't help thinking of the one without thinking of the other !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

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So, let's see, Mark gets his talking points from thinkprogress.com, mediamatters.com, moveon.org,The Schiavo case was life or death and had religious implications so perhaps doing something that day was.

Posted by: John D | March 18, 2010 4:15 PM
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Lil Johnny QuackingDuck,

Have you ever heard the phrase "seperation of church and state"?

The Terry Schiavo case was a perfect example of Republican leadership taking their radical personal right wing religious beliefs, attaching them to their version of big governmet and ramming those beliefs down the throat of an American citizen (Terry Shiavo) and her family.

And Lil Johnny, I've yet to see you or any of your fellow Wingnut rubes even once provide any PROOF that organizations like thinkprogress.com, mediamatters.com, moveon.org are lying. You do just like your overlords at Fixed News Channel do, you attack the source and while failing to provide even one little shred of evidence that doesn't prove you're full of crap.

Johnny Dipp,

And healthcare reform does not have life or death implications along with your religious ones? Oh, I get it, pugs get to make exceptions for whatever they deem correct; they get to vote on Sundays when they deem it correct; they get to use reconciliation when they deem it worthy; they get to start wars when they deem it critical; oh, and they get to use deem and pass when they deem it in their interests.

Just for Rep. King, that lunatic Beck and their ilk I wish this bill were offered on 6/6 at 6:66 am and passed at 6:66 pm.

With Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) presiding in the am and Barney Frank (D-MA) in the pm.

I wonder if President Obama can change this Sunday's date to 6/6 by Executive Order?

I'll call King's office tomorrow.

If we just listened to people like Beck and King we would think that Obama was an African-born marxist Muslim conspiring to turn America into an Islamist, marxist regime. They've certainly helped to convince a segment of our population that Obama is the devil incarnate and that health-care reform is an evil undertaking. Thankfully, however, most Americans are made of sterner stuff and they're not that gullible and they can't be bullied by the histrionics of a few opportunists.
My advice to the sane people here - ignore the rantings of the imbeciles. As fun as replying to their hate-droppings can be, it just encourages them.

To invoke the name of God in such a vain and dishonest manner is sinful and will only further expose the useful idiots of the insurance-pharma cartel for what they are: lying manipulative money-hungry corpo-fascists who couldn't care less about the 48+ million un-insured Americans

When the r-cons had control of both houses and the oval office, they couldn't come up any form of healthcare reform and why ? Because they don't care. Money for wars and bank bailouts while America implodes and people die.

God shall not be mocked, Glenn & Steve.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/03/18/king-sabbath-vote/
citing left wing blogs for "news" at least the public is aware now that they have been calling other liberals "news sources" for years

NonXcellentform, this so-called health care reform DOES NOT have life or death implications. Well, in a way it does, if it goes through it could very well mean the death of this country.
ALL Americans get health care whether they can afford it or not. It may not be the same quality of care that a Hollywood person gets, but even if nationalized health care does take place, the rich will still get better care than the rest. Heck, even Congress will continue to get better health care than the rest of us. I mean, do you really think Congress will give up their health care and receive what they will deem us to get?

john D:
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ALL Americans get health care whether they can afford it or not

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and this is the part which really infuriates the anti-healthcare useful idiots the most: that our government will no longer be able to passively endorse a policy which basically says that the wealthy are better and more worthy than everyone else to exist and too bad for the rest.

It infuriates them as well that poorer folks will get something for free or reduced when all these years they paid thru the nose. Jealousy?

Johnny, you have been on the wrong side of healthcare reform.

mark e

triple H.

Once more I have to point out using a known left-wing website or blogger does not help your argument. Especially when one states something with no proof to back it up and the other says a representative is voting one way when other news outlets say it's not so. And this administration is trying to use accounting by Enron with the numbers. I just can't wait for triple H. to say I'm wrong just so I can slap it down again.

Where do these pathetic knuckledragging crackpot conservatives come from? Losers in life, they want to impose their racist, sexist 1950's views on the rest of us who live in reality.

Go drink the purple Kool-Aid that crazy Glenn, druggie Rush and others push...

An affront to God? Would that be the photo op God served up by Rev. Wright for his anti American protegee? Does King really think that libs have faith in anything other than a big government nanny state? Sundays are for the suckers that give away their cash to charities. The libs have figured out it is much better to tax productive people and give it to losers so dependent on the government they feel forced to vote dem. Miserable little lives punctuated by regular feedings and positive affirmations from government workers. Workers that would never hold a job if forced to be productive in the private sector.

No, King, liberalism is an affront to God, freedom and the individual responsibility that made this country the greatest on earth. Liberals are offended by success, actively encourage incompetence and continue to spew discredited 19th century utopian crap. They are very good at spending other peoples money and calling it charity,

Now we've got an idiot in chief that couldn't get jobs for a dozen people as a community antagonizer, claiming that he and his merry band of socialists in congress can run 1/6 of the economy. The only thing this crowd can run is the economy into the ground. People too stupid to see how their proposals have failed everywhere they have been tried, and by people much smarter that this affirmative action figure, have no business running a lemonade stand let alone a sixth of the economy.

hans:
when you and the rest of the right wingnut fascists succeed in re-writing the bible to reflect your bigotry, godless hate and love of money, the only good thing will be that your bible will then be the size of a stick of chewing gum and fit nicely in the pocket of your hooded white clothes.

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Posted by: HHH | March 18, 2010 4:20 PM
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Thanks for the cut-and-paste plagiarism from the DailyKos. I knew you never had any original thoughts.
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You wouldn't know if something was unconstitutional if it jumped up and bit you. That comes from years and years of constitution bashing by the “progressives” and an equal number of years of ignorance generated by the public school system. Somewhere between these two forces, you’ve been given the mushroom treatment.
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If you don’t see any constitutional problem with the forced deprivation of liberty and property by the HCR bill, you are desperately ignorant. The same is true if you can’t see any problem with the government exercising a power to pull people into a market to regulate their behavior. If you think none of it is of any consequence, we will see about that. I can almost guarantee that the debate will not end Sunday. If the bill passes, the debate will simply move from one branch of government to another.
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People like you once thought that McCain-Feingold was on safe constitutional footing, and that gun control was a-okay. What you don’t know could fill volumes.

Hey writer, Fascists were the workers' party made famous by a certain articulate speaker who was fond of taking over various sectors of the economy either through outright ownership or through regulation. Not really too interested in religion except as it could be manipulated and used to influence the masses, this leader created class warfare and a dependence on the state that had never been seen before. And the people were oh so grateful for the benevolence of their government as evidenced by their strong showing of support for their leader.

Your godless neo-Marxist bears a striking resemblence to the man that inspired so many, Hugo, Fidel and the other third world thugs AKA friends of Barry

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Posted by: writerofwrongs | March 19, 2010 1:50 PM
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There you go again, using that "f" word in a way that indicates you just don't understand it. I already explained to you once, at some length, what fascism means. I also explained to you why you should be looking on your own side of the aisle for the fascists.
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To reiterate, it is YOUR side of the aisle that wants to wed corporate control over health care with the government while, at the same time, depriving individuals of their property and freedom. Go back and re-read what Mussolini wrote about the state, individual liberty and corporate interests, and you will see that I am right.
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Of course, I can’t expect anything better from you than a silent “I don’t believe it.” You will simply (and mindlessly) continue to call “fascist” anything that doesn’t suit your social and political tastes. That’s a pseudo-liberal for you.

OOOPS ! my most sincere apologies. I should have stated
" neo-fascists " .

14 characteristics of fascism:
http://www.ratical.com/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

anything look familiar, john/hans ?

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Posted by: writerofwrongs | March 19, 2010 7:22 PM
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I've seen the so-called "14 characteristics of fascism" before, and I can tell you that its analysis is flawed and misguided. Every last one of the 14 characteristics, to the extent they apply (and some don’t), are symptoms of the animating motives of fascists, rather than a particular goal of fascism. Fascists never historically followed the 14 points consciously. They never entered their mind. Fascism is not defined by its characteristics. It is defined by its core philosophy which - as I told you before - consists of extreme statism, collectivism, nationalism - along with the denial of democracy, classical liberalism, and individual rights (other than those granted as "useful" by the state). In that model, the individual lives for the state, rather than the other way around. (For those of you who have watched Start Trek NG, you can think of fascism as “The Borg.”)
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The rise of corporatism in fascist regimes was due to the melding of corporate and state control over production and the labor force. (Thus, contrary to your paranoia, the power of corporations does not translate into fascism until corporations take on state power.) This is something you have to worry about on YOUR side of the aisle, because the government is hopping into the sack with a lot of large corporate interests against the will of the people (e.g. banks and lending institutions, auto manufacturers, health care insurance providers, etc.) This is not something that conservatives or libertarians seek to have happen.
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Nor for that matter, do conservatives or libertarians seek to destroy democracy, have the government dictate limits on rights, or deprive people of the rights they now have against the government. Now, who was it recently that was all ready to take away people’s firearms and curtail their freedom of speech? (Democrats.) Who was it that was guilty of election fraud? ACORN? Your Idiot in Chief even made a fool out of himself during the last SOU address, trying to lambaste the Supreme Court for supporting free speech. You guys think its okay to take away people’s free speech rights (and any other rights) whenever you don’t like what they say. So, if you want to play by the numbers (especially with regard to the 14 Characteristics of Fascism), it is obvious that the Democrats are guilty of furthering characteristics 1, 2, 3, 6, 9, 13, and 14. That’s half of them. Physician, heal thyself.

John D:

You, like your alter ego baby ter-ter, enjoy labeling those who disagree with you as:
libs-commies-socialists-anti this and that. Here is some news for you:
there are legions of us who refuse to goose-step to the neo-fascist GOP issue du jour and that just drives you shills nuts. The GOP is clearly the party of multi-national corporations and war profiteers, at the expense of the citizens who pay the price in terms of the real and human cost however these same men never saw one day of active duty, preferring rather to send someone elses son or daughter to fight the *enemy* while they divide up the oil fields among themselves.

FYI , I believe in the right to bear arms and I am also pro-life. I refuse to buy into your laundry list of dangerous objectives which include protection of the insurance-pharma cartel's stranglehold over this ccountry and it's citizens, as well as the GOP's answer to healthcare reform:
tort reform. Nothing like going way out on a limb to stop reckless profit-motivated business interests from acting responsibily, like Toyota.

Nice try at pidgeon-holing, though. Do you suppose this may have anything to do with why only 22% of voters identify with the GOP these days?

I see. It is an affront to God to provide health care for the 44,000 Americans who die each year simply because they have no health insurance. Hmmm. Apparently I missed the parts in the bible where Jesus healed only those could afford it, and where the Lord said to Moses "torture thine enemies, so that they will say whatever thou should want to hear."