Obama doubts immigration bill 'appetite'

I think the President has it backwards. Politics (elections) are being singled out as the reason to off put immigration reform. In a perfect world the issues would dictate the agenda and not the agenda dictate the issues. Having said that, I can understand, but the public won't see much of a "change" to vote on as most of the agenda has already existing work on it( with not much excitement generated in any particular reform to a large degree). I guess that is the point, make the past and the present indistinguishable so as not to stir too many feathers. I do hope that immigration will prove to a be niche for this President and his administration with his background in foreign policy, constitutional law, and community organization. The real problem with immigration is that it is considered a vital part of this nations wealth whenever we speak of diversity. It's about time that immigration enforcement gains a better connotation as it is a vital part of our nations wealth. You can not have one without the other. These men and women provide a vital service like those in hospitals and our armed forces. We should aim to create immigration reform we can be proud of and respect.

Nah, come on BO try and pass an amnesty bill. Please.

Your just forced millions of American citizens to buy a product whether they want it or not. You took away their freedom. You are going to spend trillions for this socialized medicare. You are going to use the IRS to enforce the law and make American citizens pay a fine, to obey your law.

BUT, you won't enforce laws against illegal immigration. So, you punish American citizens again, because we have to pay for services stolen by those here illegally, imprison illegals that commit crimes, pay for their healthcare on top of our own forced healthcare. AND THEN you complain when someone wants to enforce the immigration laws????

People should me foaming at the mouth. Double standards enforced against American citizens, but don't touch illegal immigrants.

If you use the border patrols estimates that for every 1 illegal caught 3 get through you now have at least 36 million illegals in the US.

http://www.npg.org/CAPS.html

That means that California has 8.64 million illegals, if you go by the estimate that 24% of illegals live in California. Almost 9 million in ONE state with a population of 38 million. Do you wonder why California is bankrupt?

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As BO was in Quincy today, he gave some support to the democratic Senate canidate from Illinois "AlexiG - the crooked banker". Alexi, the one who along with his family pillage their bank and then had the gov't take it over.

Back in January, BO said while campaigning for Marsha Coakley - "Bankers don't need another vote in the United States Senate". Why is he backing the failed banker who gave out loans to mobsters?

The Arizona immigration law is an example of what happens with a frustrated populace - sometimes we overreact. But this is America. We live in an open society. Every time we make a mistake our government ultimately self-corrects. That is our nature. .........

http://thefiresidepost.com/2010/04/28/immigration-a-self-correcting-union/

Obama Speaks! I'm no Trespasser in the GOP Arizona First Degree! YOU LIE! No YOU LIE! I'm no Trespasser in the Arizona GOP First Degree! I don't WINK! I didn't NOD! I'm no trespasser in the GOP "mein kempf" First Degree! I didn't count the VOTES! Jan did! I'm not caged! Foreclosed! Relocated provisional ballot voter at best! I'm no "Trespasser in the John Kavanaugh First Degree" I don't wink near a "alley way" or a FENCE! It's not an OPTION! Just not YOU LIE! YOU LIE! Option! You're no Trespasser in the GOP Republican Arizona First Degree! I can vote! I get counted! So what if I was born before 1964 and I don't QUALIFY! I'm not YOU LIE! YOU LIE! Brown skin, brown eye man, woman or child born in the USA living in Arizona! So what If I don't Qualify! I'm no Trespasser in the GOP Arizona First Degree! Outside of Lowes! Outside of Home Depot! Outside the Brewer Country! Stop! Stop! Stop! All brown skin,brown eye AZPOST "Description" Papers Please! Birth Certificates please! No papers no America for you! Just detainment! Just a GOP Forced ATTESTATION of you unto them! I'm no Trespasser in the First Degree! Well Mr. President, YOU ARE NOW!

I hope the Dems start calling the Republicans bluff on Immigration reform EXACTLY the same way that they're doing it with Wall Street Reform right now.

Just like with Wall Street REFORM, the Repugs are screaming to anyone who will listen that: "something needs to be done on Immigration reform!"....and then when the Dems try to do something about it.....the Repug Party of No starts obstructing and filibustering again.

REPUBLICAN LINDSEY GRAHAM: I'LL FILIBUSTER MY OWN CLIMATE BILL UNLESS THE DEMS DROP IMMIGRATION REFORM ALTOGETHER:

"When Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid decided that he would bump climate-and-energy legislation behind immigration reform as his next priority, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) was apoplectic. Graham, along with Sens. John Kerry (D-MA), and Joe Lieberman (I-CT), had spent months drafting a climate/energy bill, and was prepared to introduce it Monday, when, enraged by Reid's plan, he backed out."
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http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/04/graham-ill-filibuster-my-own-climate-bill-unless-reid-drops-immigration-altogether.php
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Obama received a huge % of the Mexican American vote in 2008........

". . .If you use the border patrols estimates that for every 1 illegal caught 3 get through you now have at least 36 million illegals in the US.
http://www.npg.org/CAPS.html
That means that California has 8.64 million illegals, if you go by the estimate that 24% of illegals live in California. Almost 9 million in ONE state with a population of 38 million. Do you wonder why California is bankrupt?"

Posted by: Free to Watch Liberals Tax and Spend | April 28, 2010 10:03 PM

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Well, we are all God's Children. There are 6 billion people on earth. Learn to live peacefully and solve our differences peacefully. Mexico has been our peaceful neighbors for hundreds of years. They are our friends to the South. They helped us during WWII- making sure the Nazi's could not get a foothold on American soil (unless you are from the Arian Nation, yourself? Then it might have been a good thing for you). True, sometimes it wasn't pretty (the Mexican war that annexed Mexican Land into today's Modern Western Frontier). You are quick to point out the sins of the Illegals. But, your ancestors had the same sins. They were intruders (not invited by Indians) that killed or genocide 15 million Indians. Certainly, the Indians did not envision in their lifetime that America would look totally different from what they knew. In the same manner, America is not going to look the same in a 100 years from now. The reality is that in 100 years, America will continue to change and define itself, naturally. I know you just want to preserve "your way of life." But look around? America is changing. It's too late to go back. Even if you did, the world is changing. It is a world economy. People are traveling more and more freely across states, countries, & continents.

I'm not advocating or supporting the concept of "illegal immigrants." I'm advocating that for the sake of humanity, immigration needs to be resolve in a common, sensible, thoughtful process manner. We need a win-win situation for both countries.

But, if you want to "win it all" then prepare for a long economic boycott and sanctions. The casualties will be the Mexicans first. There will be rejoice and the sound of cymbals at first; then, follow closely behind is Arizona's collapsed economy and the next states that declare "illegal laws." Mexico having suffer major economic downfall, will have no choice but to partner with the Chinese, or Russians. Who will gladly take over their oil fields, and assets since they are trying to grow their economic power. They will be untouchable since they will own all the assets; including US debts. Our debt is not going away. . .and neither are the debt collectors. But, it is your choice. . .I cannot make that for you. If you already made your choice then sit back and enjoy your "false perception" of what the world around you should look like.

By the way, California is not bankrupt because of illegal immigrants. Immigrants contribute over 3 billion dollars into the state of California. California is going bankrupt because of the real estate bubble. There are just too much foreclosures and not enough property taxes to support the local, state levels. . .nothing to do with illegal immigrants.

A nation of immigrants, so we pretend, wants to break up families, send men and women back to countries that will punish them in some way, for leaving and we pretend to be christian !! While some men and women, in this good country can make Millions of Dollars, in the blink of an eye, yet we can't help the needy, we can't shelter the homeless, we can't feed the hungry and we can't protect the vulnerable. Then I suggest we remove Lady Liberty from New York harbor. She is no longer needed, her beacon is no longer a light to show the downtrodden, the huddle masses, that here, in America, they are welcomed. In particular, those unfortunate men and women who sacrificed everything, their former lives, their family and friends to escape to a better life, even if it means to be outside the law. That is the desperation they realized and they acted upon. Now, we, who on any given day, waste more money, here, in America, than it would cost to feed, clothe, house and employ all of these desperate men and women, from countries, that any one of us, Americans, would try to escape from the moment we could think and walk !! I can only concede on the immigration issue, that those undocumented immigrants be offered a means by which they can stay here, in America. None of the nonsense about leaving and then returning, that game is up. Let them pay fines, reasonable fines, allow them to become full fledged citizens and then, leave them alone. They have been living in America for generations, working, raising families, paying taxes. They are and have been good citizens and good Americans. To treat them as criminals, would be a crime, in itself. I hope America doesn't take its lead from Arizona, if it does, our future is nothing but a crap-shoot !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

When the Feds don't do their job, the States are going to react. This is not a race issue at all - this is a LAW AND ORDER issue. There are thousands of people who apply every day to get into this country legally. They may spend years trying and eventually they are granted temporary and then permanent status. I KNOW this process is hard and long but for now IT IS THE LEGAL WAY to residency. Why is this so hard to understand? I generally do not like this Arizona law but mostly because it burdens the cops so much. If you are a legal resident, you have nothing to worry about. If you are illegal- well then maybe you ought to consider one of the other 49 states or here's a thought - YOUR OWN COUNTRY until you can get a green card. I discuss this more on my blog. W.C.C.
http://pjmonolog.blogspot.com/2010/04/az-immigration-law-win-win.html
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By the way, California is not bankrupt because of illegal immigrants. Immigrants contribute over 3 billion dollars into the state of California. California is going bankrupt because of the real estate bubble. There are just too much foreclosures and not enough property taxes to support the local, state levels. . .nothing to do with illegal immigrants.

Posted by: HmongRodneyKing | April 28, 2010 11:55 PM

HRK, exactly WHO do you think took out those loans? YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

HUD: Five Million Fraudulent Mortgages Held by Illegals (MSM Silence is Deafening)
KFYI - Phoenix, AZ ^ | 10-8-08 | KFYI

Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 9:43:32 PM by wac3rd

One illegal alien was arrested this year in Tucson after allegedly using a stolen social security number to buy two homes and rack up over $780,000 in bad debt.

Some five million fraudulent home mortgages are in the hands of illegal aliens, according to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.

It's not known how many of those have contributed to the subprime housing mortgage meltdown, but it has affected every state, including Arizona.

The problem began years ago when banks were forced to give mortgages without confirming social security numbers or borrower identification. As a result, illegal immigrants were able to obtain home mortgages which they could not afford.

One illegal alien was arrested this year in Tucson after allegedly using a stolen social security number to buy two homes and rack up over $780,000 in bad debt
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2101111/posts

The Washington Post noted in 2005: "Hispanics, the nation’s fastest-growing major ethnic or racial group, have been courted aggressively by real-estate agents, mortgage brokers and programs for first-time buyers that offer help with closing costs. Ads proclaim: "Sin verificacion de ingresos! Sin verificacion de documento!" – which loosely translates as, ‘Income tax forms are not required, nor are immigration papers.’ "

http://www.vegasbubble.net/what-do-you-think-of-illegal-aliens-and-subprime-loans-impact-on-economy

All this comes down to the difference between equality under the law, where everyone has to obey the law, and is therefore equal, OR SOCIAL JUSTICE, where statements like "we are all God's children" are used to manipulate the laws to favor those that some want to court for votes. Money and power is what motivates, not the baloney that a bleeding heart liberal will soak up as truth. I posted a demographic of a typical growing California city that is 80% hispanic, tens of thousands of illegal immigrants moved there in the last 25 years.

Where's the injustice you say? Well an illegal that has fraudulently received a home loan can just walk away. He's not going to be charged will loan fraud. He can go back to Mexico, if he wants with no damage, not even to his credit report. You think that he's gonna have to help pay back all the bailout money? NO. He can just move on, leaving the mess for American citizens to clean up.

By the way HRK, I don't have a false perception of the world around me. I like all the other American citizens that are subject to every law and regulation that Congress can through our way, would go to jail if we obtained a mortgage without providing our true identity. Wanna test it? GO TRY AND OBTAIN A HOME LOAN, WITHOUT HAVING TO GIVE YOUR TRUE SS#.

I am not against immigration. I am against an invasion, whether the invaders are armed or not. And, will you on left, stop with the "your relatives were invaders." That is lame, really. My relatives came here legally as did 99% of everyone's. You want to pretend that borders don't mean anything, go to the southern border of Mexico and try and cross with someone from El Salvador. The fact is boarders define and area, like the map and border around your home, if you are able to afford one. Borders define what laws are applied to you.

No one will believe anything until the term 'illegal alien' or "illegal immigrant' is used in the discussion. Pelosi and Obama want to confuse people by calling the lawbreakers 'immigrants'. Immigrant is too good a word for the lawbreakers. Immigrants do the legal thing. 'Undocumented workers' need to go to the back of the line and hope they can get in on the quota system, like people from other nations. Does Obama want to discriminate against other nations? Or, just give our country away to the entire world? The more stupid Obama thinks we are, the harder we'll push back. Obama said on the airplane interview that it's basically OK that illegals disobey law and stay here. Obama is not allowed to give America away. He and other presidents are a flash in the pan of our history. Don't let a flash in the pan give America away. If I'm out getting ice cream with my kids, I have my driver's license with me at all times. I hope the lawbreakers leaving Arizona dont flow into my state. Why don't the legal immigrants push for more border security?--a registered Dem for now.

"AlexiG - the crooked banker".
Posted by: Terry | April 28, 2010 10:48 PM
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TinkledOn Terry - please post your PROOF that he's "crooked" as you claim.
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I'd agree with you if you said "incompetent" or "unworthy of being a senator".

Before CommonSense,

Here are a couple of people he made loans to Michael “Jaws” Giorango and the Stratievsky family.

http://bitterqueen.typepad.com/friends_of_ours/boris-stratievsky/

http://www.illinoistimes.com/Springfield/article-2905-jaws-takes-a-bite.html

I think crooked applies. I do also like your additions of being incompetent (as shown by how poorly he has run the state's Bright Start college savings program) and Unworthy of being a senator.

If I'm out getting ice cream with my kids, I have my driver's license with me at all times. I hope the lawbreakers leaving Arizona dont flow into my state. Why don't the legal immigrants push for more border security?--a registered Dem for now.

Posted by: Vivian | April 29, 2010 10:47 AM

Vivian, that is exactly what will happen. California's border with Mexico was beefed up and so the entry point shifted to AZ. I can't begin to explain how the quality of life has be shattered in California and obviously AZ. The excuse used to be: Illegals do the jobs nobody else wants. Well I actually have done the jobs the same jobs along side illegals back in the day when there were no jobs, just like now. Since then, illegals now do every type of construction job there is: carpenters, plasterer, concrete, bricklayer, you name it. Of course for about 1/3 of the pay and no benefits. There are entire cities where you cannot find a business sign in English. Illegal street vendors (meaning that they do not have a business license or follow any health codes like refrigeration) sell everything from shaved flavored ice to unrefrigerated meat, tamales, tacos, etc.

Street gangs of illegals commit murders, kidnappings, etc. and if the heat gets too hot, the criminal simply slips back into Mexico. Contrary to what the media has been saying the new AZ will not have police stopping people just to check for citizenship. It simply allows them to ask once a person has be pulled over or apprehended for other reasons. The MSM has lied once again in order to back its agenda.

"...The problem began years ago when banks were forced to give mortgages without confirming social security numbers or borrower identification."

Correct. The banks are not forced to go into the sub prime markets or do risky loans. JP Morgan is doing just fine because it chose not to do risky loans. On the other hand, Wamu, Countrywide, and many other banks went insolvent. It's a free market, take your risks. Why blame the illegals?

"It's not known how many of these have contributed to the subprime housing mortgage meltdown, but it has affected every state, including Arizona."

If it is not known, how can you say it was caused solely on the illegals? GS was selling these bad loans to investors with the intent to short sale them! They reaped trillions of dollars and the taxpayers foot the bill! You are worried about a few millions...when GS stole trillions under your nose!

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"...Some five million fraudulent home mortgages are in the hands of illegal aliens."

"...Wanna test it? GO TRY AND OBTAIN A HOME LOAN, WITHOUT HAVING TO GIVE YOUR TRUE SS#."

You contradict yourself... how can illegals have five million fraudulent homes when they do not have a true SS#. Unless, someone let them? Could it be the fact that the lenders don't care because they knew these loans would be sold to investors! Nah.. .that couldn't be..Wall Street is too honest for that.
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"And, will you on left,..."

Left? You assume too much. I'm not a registered Democrat or Republican. I have voted for both parties. But not for the Republicans lately because they are too far Right. I remember a Republican Party that was once "in the middle of the road." I voted for my Republican congressman most of the time; even thought, I hardly agrees with his views. But, he was the type of congressman that would asked if you needed any help with anything! How can I not vote for someone like that? Now, all I get is loud noises from the Tea Party, Birther's who wants to see ID's of all kinds (which makes no sense because I don't want to carry a wallet the size of 8" x 11"). That is sooo uncool; misguided Arizona laws requiring "ID at all time." That is sooo uncool, because what if I decided that my calling is to be a homeless person one day? I don't want to carry anything. . .hell I don't even want to shower!

Like you, I want immigration reform too. But, not at the expense of my freedom. There is no way I'm supporting extra layers and layers of identifications. After legalizing racial profiling, they'll just keep legalizing other stuff. Pretty soon, they won't even need a warrant to search you anymore. They just need probable cause. I don't want to go down that path. . .of insanity.

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"..You want to pretend that borders don't mean anything, go to the southern border of Mexico and try and cross with someone from El Salvador. The fact is boarders define and area, like the map and border around your home, if you are able to afford one."

Correct. Mexico's immigration law is even tougher than United States. It is also on the list of Human right's for trafficking, and abusing immigrants coming from their southern neighbors. But, United States is also held to a higher standard because if we didn't then we would be just like them. I sure don't want the United States to lower their standards to third world levels. Then, we wouldn't have to right to tell Darfur to stop their genocide when we suppress our own. We wouldn't have to the right to ask China to loosen "freedom of religion" to its people. Because, they would say the same thing: "Look at yourself, first. Mr. Perfect"

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"...where statements like "we are all God's children" are used to manipulate the laws to favor those that some want to court for votes. Money and power is what motivates, not the baloney that a bleeding heart liberal will soak up as truth."

Agreed. I should have not invoke religion. Separation of Church and State is good. I don't think that is a liberal issue thought. It has been the Conservatives who's been Bible tumping, lately. But since most Hispanics are Catholics, we certainly do not want the Pope to be involve. Things will just get worst. . . .

"All this comes down to the difference between equality under the law, where everyone has to obey the law, and is therefore equal, OR SOCIAL JUSTICE, where statements like "we are all God's children" are used to manipulate the laws to favor those that some want to court for votes. "
There's a possible third angle.
Laws are written to apply to everyone, as no one is above the law. However, laws are a form of SOCIAL ORDER, and their only purpose is to keep people who would normally obey the law in line. People who break the law will do so no matter what is on the books. Laws aren't written with lawbreakers in mind. That's what politicians lead you to believe in order to get reelected.

Horses' Petuzzis Ride into Arizona

“Three Border Patrol agents are assaulted on the average day at or near the U.S.A border. Someone is kidnapped every 35 hours in Phoenix, Ariz., often by agents of alien smuggling organizations. And one-in-five American teenagers last year used some type of illegal drug, many of which were imported across the unsecured U.S.-Mexico border:” http://bit.ly/9wExK1

That excerpt of a CNS report based on DOJ figures doesn’t even mention the number of assaults and murders of both civilians and law enforcement officials, the high-speed chases of criminal suspects, the school over-crowding, the closed hospitals, the high costs across the board for Arizonans to be the unwilling hosts of hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens from Mexico.

Yet, Mexico treats undocumented visitors traversing its Third World environs en route to the USA as invaders and condemns Arizona’s new immigration law which is far more lenient than Mexico’s and simply codifies on a state level already existing and unenforced federal laws.

As expected, the Commander in Chief in Charge of Defending Illegality jumped into the Arizona controversy as did San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsome who declared Arizona off limits as did the usual agitators such as Al Sharpton, all insisting that Arizona be blacklisted as a pariah state which should be shunned by all civilized peoples.

Perhaps the worst attack has . . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1653)

Fraudulent mortgages, eh?

You do know, do you not, that Countrywide and similar companies actually recruited what were essentially "straw parties" into mortgages, so they could harvest, bundle, and securitize them with the help of Goldman Sachs and friends?

HRK, many of your arguments continue along the line of what ifs and unreasonable speculation. The AZ law does not call for profiling, it simply gives more authority to police after someone has been apprehended or pulled over. CONTRAST that to San Francisco and LA; they refuse to ask immigration status no matter what crime has been committed including murder, so, these politicians are more concerned with protecting a criminal than his victims or society.

If any state should be boycotted, it is Mexico. Otherwise, your statements, stands for human rights, and moral principles amount to nothing but hypocrisy.

And sorry, but the ridiculous idea that "your ancestors were invaders" is a liberal idea that comes from multi-cultural postmodern philosophy.

And really, you drive and walk around without identification? That card is too heavy for you?

I am simply pointing out more injustice forced on Amercian citizens by illegal immigration. It is not a victimless crime. Also, illegals actually receive preferred treatment when it came to acquiring a home loan a few years ago. Indeed, that was allowed due to government failure when government deregulated the banking industry in the 90s that was "banking reform." Sound familiar?

Fraudulent mortgages, eh?

You do know, do you not, that Countrywide and similar companies actually recruited what were essentially "straw parties" into mortgages, so they could harvest, bundle, and securitize them with the help of Goldman Sachs and friends?

Posted by: ornery | April 30, 2010 2:52 PM

Yes, those "friends" were the quasi-government agencies Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Those government backed and encouraged agencies bought all those sub-prime mortgages so that those lenders could be encouraged, once again by our government. Barney Frank, now chairman and long standing member of the House Banking Commitee in particular.

Bet you didn't know this:

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080924145932.aspx

Media Mum on Barney Frank's Fannie Mae Love Connection
Democratic House Financial Services Committee Chair promoted GSEs while former 'spouse' was Fannie Mae executive.

By Jeff Poor
Business & Media Institute
9/24/2008 4:00:57 PM

Are journalists playing favorites with some of the key political figures involved with regulatory oversight of U.S. financial markets?

MSNBC’s Chris Matthews launched several vitriolic attacks on the Republican Party on his Sept. 17, 2008, show, suggesting blame for Wall Street problems should be focused in a partisan way. However, he and other media have failed to thoroughly examine the Democratic side of the blame game.

Prominent Democrats ran Fannie Mae, the same government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) that donated campaign cash to top Democrats. And one of Fannie Mae’s main defenders in the House – Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., a recipient of more than $40,000 in campaign donations from Fannie since 1989 – was once romantically involved with a Fannie Mae executive.

The truth is out there, but you ARE NEVER GOING TO GET IT FROM THE MSM. Note the subheadline from this 2005 article...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/22/AR2005072202049.html

Stricter Bill Introduced For Fannie, Freddie

Rules May Have Problems With House, Democrats

Senate Banking Committee Chairman Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.) yesterday released legislation that could force mortgage finance companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to significantly reduce their combined $1.5 trillion investment portfolios.

Shelby has for weeks signaled his intent to support a set of strict new rules for the two mortgage giants, and the bill he unveiled yesterday met those expectations. By proposing to give a new regulator broad discretion over the kinds of assets Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac can hold, Shelby has followed the course preferred by the Bush administration -- but set up a possible conflict with the House, where Financial Services Committee Chairman Michael G. Oxley (R-Ohio) supports a less strict set of rules.

Both the White House and Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan say Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose a risk to the economy because they have grown too large.

AGAIN, NOTE THAT THE WHITE HOUSE AND GREENSPAN DIDN'T SAY MAYBE, THEY SAID BECAUSE THEY HAVE GROWN TOO LARGE.

"....HRK, many of your arguments continue along the line of what ifs and unreasonable speculation. The AZ law does not call for profiling, it simply gives more authority to police after someone has been apprehended or pulled over."

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Speculation, indeed! Here is an example of locals trying to enforce federal laws:
"Three Houston police officers have been restricted to desk duty after they followed a Chinese diplomat into the parking garage of the Chinese Consulate, arrested the man and injured him, the Houston mayor said.

Mayor Annise Parker said in a statement that the officers' duties will remain limited pending an investigation into how Chinese diplomat Yu Boren was injured last Saturday.

Officials in China's Foreign Ministry released a statement Friday saying police harassed and beat a deputy consul-general while he was driving to the consulate. The statement said a family member also was involved, but did not say if that person was injured.

The consulate in Houston did not immediately return a message left by The Associated Press. Houston police and the U.S. State Department are investigating the incident.

"China urges the U.S. ... to quickly investigate the details of this incident and to look into the persons responsible to ensure that the Chinese diplomatic and consulate personnel and premises are not violated," Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu said in a statement. "The Chinese Foreign Ministry, the Chinese Embassy and the Houston consulate have already made solemn exchanges with the U.S. side."

Under international practice, the premises of foreign embassies and consulates are outside the jurisdiction of local law enforcement, and diplomats have legal immunity."

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20100430/AS.China.US.Consular.Official/

"And really, you drive and walk around without identification? That card is too heavy for you?"
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Yes, it is way too heavy. I don't even carry keys anymore. My car starts automatically when I am near. I prefer a chip implanted in me so I don't have to carry anything- 666 is coming anyway. Might as well get a head start so I can buy my bread! Besides, when I swim in the rivers. ..i'm butt naked. When, I'm on land, i only have my towel. I guess you didn't see the movie "FUN WITH DICK AND JANE." Jim Carry looses his ID and gets deported. Jumps over the border fence and is rescued in a small car his wife drives with a dozen other illegals. It's Hillarious!

"Also, illegals actually receive preferred treatment when it came to acquiring a home loan a few years ago. Indeed, that was allowed due to government failure when government deregulated the banking industry in the 90s that was "banking reform." Sound familiar?"

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Indeed! It sounds familiar, my Republican Congressman voted for it along with a Republican controlled Congress in those years! Signed by a Democratic President! What is your point? Everyone was sharing beds and blankets!

I see how the mainstream media is not reporting the shooting of an Arizona deputy sheriff today by an illegal Mexican smuggling drugs. Pretty much a normal day for the propaganda ministers of the mainstream media.

SB 1070: Arizona's Illegal Alien Law

With the continuing and worsening uproar over Arizona’s new immigration law, SB 1070, it might be worthwhile to actually read said law before demonstrating or rioting over it.

Aside from the incongruity of the spectacle of illegal aliens protesting against a public law not scheduled to go into effect for months, a look at the text of that statute might alleviate some of their overreactive concerns.

It’s a simple law, really, as far as laws go, and largely devoid of the legalistic jargon that often obfuscates what politicians write. The section titled, “Article 8. Enforcement of Immigration Laws.” and subtitled, “Cooperation and Assistance in Enforcement of Immigration Laws; Indemnification,” represents a straightforward piece of legislation: . . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1655)

HRK, here's a suggestion, google postmodern philosophers Derrida, Michel Foucault, and Nietzsche they are the fathers of the progressive movement (I want to say most of them are on the left, but their philosophy has infected everything from Communism to Facism, which are very similar). Anyway, you may see where you got your ideas from. You definitely will see how the process of "deconstructing" history was born.

Then you can read up on Jefferson, Thomas Aquinas, Immanuel Kant, fathers of individual liberty that is currently under attack.

There is a big difference between "human rights" like Europeans seem to love, and individual rights that are to be protected by the government. Individual rights include those covered in the Constitution. Those rights are reserved for American citizens, many of whose ancestors fought and died to protect them, not to be given away like political favors to lawbreakers that don't respect them, by politicians that only want to court votes. What you treat as common will become common to you, and you will no longer value it. That is what I see happening to a very unique phenomena of history The Constitution of the United States.

The Obamassiah has spoken … out of both sides of his mouth.
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The nation has a wonderful appetite for immigration reform. People want to see the system reformed so that government actually upholds the rule of law, controls the border, and drives out anarchy. The people want resolution of the legal status of illegal aliens some time in the very near future.
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But the Obamassiah didn’t lie when he asserted that no appetite exists for reform. That’s because the Obamassiah has something specific and very different in mind when he speaks of immigration reform. Just like health care reform, his approach to immigration reform involves the imposition of his ideology on the public against its will. In particular, it consists of resurrecting the worst parts of the 2007 Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act with plenty of rewards for those who came here illegally. See http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/09/us/politics/09immig.html I think the Obamassiah realizes, however, that legislating job preservation and social welfare benefits for millions of illegal immigrants doesn’t resonate with the public right now, especially given that one can describe 17% or more of our workforce as “unemployed” or seriously “underemployed.” So when he speaks of “no appetite” for immigration reform, he means the public has no appetite for HIS version of immigration reform, rather than real immigration reform.
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His preferred plan would likely consist of waiting until the economy picks up and we all turn fat and stupid enough to forget his promises not to enroll illegal aliens in the health care system. (Sorry, but Joe Wilson told the truth that day.) He also likely believes that waiting until after the mid-term elections in November will help preserve the majority necessary to pass his idea of reform.
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I agree with the Obamassiah that we must purge ourselves of our hypocrisy imbued attitude toward illegal immigrants. We cannot synchronously demand their labor and force them to live in the shadows. If businesses need their labor, then the government should accommodate that need with a guest worker program, excluding, of course, those with criminal proclivities. The government should deport the rest. (It has done so before.) I disagree, however, with granting illegal immigrants a path to citizenship or bestowing social welfare benefits upon them. Granting them legal status already constitutes a reward they don’t deserve. We don’t need to lavish rewards on them, lest we risk intensifying encouragement of the same kind of lawbreaking. In addition, no one should believe that reform can succeed without a radically different and more intense focus on protecting the integrity of our borders. The lack of enforcement doomed the ’86 amnesty bill and can easily do so again. I will not hold my breath, though, waiting for Democrats to filibuster the bill until we get better border protection.

Mexicans in America: Criminal Elements

Yesterday’s installment of this re-published series focused on Aztlan, the mythical place; today’s Part Three deals with the criminals in that very real place, the United States.

Mexicans, El Salvadorans, Guatemalans, any Hispanics and, indeed, most people of any nationality are fundamentally good people. At least, that’s what I firmly believe.

I’ve also said that if I were in their positions of poverty and deprivation and if I had the opportunity to sneak into another country which happened to be rich by my standards, I probably would do it. If that were the only way I could provide for my family, as illegal as it may be, I’d give it a shot and risk arrest, deportation, and imprisonment, though imprisonment would be rare if I snuck into the United States.

Chances are, if I were apprehended for violating American immigration laws, I’d be fed a meal then packed off to my native country, enabling me to try, try, try again until I made it into the Land of the Gringos where I could earn some dollars to FedEx back home to be converted into pesos so that my wife and kids could eat and be a tad more comfortable.

Whether it would be via a restaurant job, a farm job, a factory job, I would consider myself, and my family, fortunate. I guess I’d pass at nannying, but who knows? . . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1658)