The president apparently had a different view of Tuesday's meeting with Republican senators than some of the senators themselves. (Getty/Alex Wong)
by Janet Hook
President Obama paid a rare visit Tuesday to Senate Republicans on Capitol Hill, seeking their support on energy, immigration and other top-priority measures. But he hit a buzz saw of criticism and resentment that bodes poorly for the remainder of his legislative agenda.
In the tense closed-door meeting, Obama told Senate Republicans he did not want legislative business to grind to a halt just because an election was approaching, and asked for their cooperation on ratifying the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, confirming Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court and passing legislation to improve the economy.
But at least one angry Republican accused Obama of treating members of the opposition like political props, saying the president's bipartisan words have repeatedly been followed by partisan deeds on such issues as regulation of Wall Street, healthcare and economic stimulus.
"I told him I thought there was a degree of audacity in him showing up today," said Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), who accused the administration of sabotaging efforts to write a bipartisan Wall Street bill. "I asked him how he was able to reconcile that duplicity."
Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) said Obama's response to the GOP criticism showed he was so "thin-skinned" that he should "take a Valium" before he comes to talk to Republicans again.
As Obama left the Capitol, he told reporters, "It was a good and frank exchange." Later, White House spokesman Bill Burton said the session was "civil in tone" and that Republican accounts of the meeting were overblown.
But the byplay underscored the depth of the suspicions that Obama faces even as he presses for legislation on which he dearly needs Republican support -- a bill now before the Senate to provide more funding for the war in Afghanistan. The war is opposed by many liberals and, especially in the House, war spending will be almost impossible to pass without Republican votes.
Democratic leaders also are preparing for action on a $200-billion bill to promote job creation that will stall in the Senate unless it draws at least a modicum of Republican backing.
House leaders are hoping to bring that bill to the floor this week, but action has been delayed because of opposition from centrist and business-oriented Democrats who object to the deficit spending and to provisions that would partially offset the cost by raising new taxes on certain investment income.
Obama's trip to Capitol Hill came just days after the Senate handed him a big victory by approving the sweeping Wall Street bill. Although the goals of the bill had broad bipartisan support, it passed with votes from only four Republicans.
Many lawmakers think that may be the last major piece of legislation that can make it through Congress this election year, as hopes for ambitious energy and immigration legislation fade.
Although Obama's visit was initially seen as a last-ditch effort to drum up Republican support for those initiatives, many thought that hopes of a breakthrough were unrealistic.
"Surely you didn't think we were going to walk out of there and have some specific agreement on one of these issues," said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).
Even moderate GOP Sen. Olympia J. Snowe of Maine, one of the few Republicans who has been willing to work with the administration, emerged from the meeting with Obama with a sour attitude toward his administration's record of outreach to Republicans like herself.
"Their bipartisanship generally consists of 'Can we have your vote for our bill,' " said Snowe, one of the few Republicans to support Obama's economic stimulus bill last year.
Corker blew his stack at Obama's plea for GOP support because he believes that, in spite of a lot of work between the parties on the Wall Street legislation over the last year, the administration sabotaged the effort and the result was a bill that was approved with little GOP support.
Others bridled at Obama's tenor, which they described as combative and didactic.
"The back and forth was very tense throughout the meeting," Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.) said. "I felt the president was very combative, and I was surprised since he requested the meeting."
At least three times, Wicker said, Obama interrupted a questioner.
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who backed out of earlier talks to reach a compromise on an immigration overhaul, said he tried to acknowledge Obama's efforts to breach party divisions on those issues. But his plan to provide an avenue to legalize millions of illegal immigrants was a nonstarter in the Senate, where it takes 60 votes to break a filibuster, Graham said.
"It was at times testy," Graham said of the meeting.
Obama's 2008 presidential rival, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), confronted the president and his allies, saying they misrepresented the immigration law passed in his home state as an invitation to discrimination.
"I pointed out that members of his administration who have not read the law have mischaracterized the law -- a very egregious act on their part," McCain said afterward.
Other Republicans said they were more surprised that Obama made the trip than that nothing came of it.
"We simply have a large difference of opinion, which [will] not likely ... be settled until November," said Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.).





Comments
The Obama White House seems to talk a good game of wanting bipartisanship never makes a serious attempt deliver. They are also very "thin skinned" to any criticism directed at it or their policies. Just look any some of the Posts in this newspaper by the Obama Attack Dogs (it always seems to be the same 4-5 people) on any Post they do not agree with. Opponents or anyone that even questions some of the President's policies are personally attacked as bigots, racists and their intelligence is even brought into question. President Obama talks bipartisanship but it always means my way or no way. There is never any compromise by the President and his supporters. Maine Republican Senator Snow best described this problem. Moderate GOP Senator Olympia Snowe, one of the few Republicans who has been willing to work with the Administration and the Democratic leadership, is reported to have emerged from the meeting with the President with a "sour attitude" toward the White House's record of outreach to Republicans like herself. According to Senator Snowe, one of the few Republicans to support the Obama Stimulus Bill last year, "their bipartisanship generally consists of "Their bipartisanship generally consists of Can we have your vote for our bill."
I personally like Barack Obama and I hope he does very well as Prewsident of the United States. But I believe the President needs to realize that the political campaigns are over and it is time for him to govern. And that means working with all Americans, including Republicans. So far he has not made a serious effort to do this.
Posted by: depot jim | May 26, 2010 11:44 AM
The president is a lying, duplicitous piece of garbage. End of story.
Hey, Swamp-people, how about something on Sestak and his claims he was offered a job to get out of the race? Media people actually have been asking some questions about that. If that is true, then a CRIME was committed by this White House. And, if a job was offered in this shaministration, that means that CRIME goes all the way up to the president himself!
Posted by: John D | May 26, 2010 11:44 AM
What is worse, Amerika, the abject incompetence of jimmy carter or the ideological driven Marxism of Mustapha Mond.
Senator Corker is absolutely correct. At the edges, Republicans were able to work with Bill Clinton, but these people are combative and Xtremely didactic. Kanye West writes their press statements. They are here to do no less than change the World. Have to credit ‘em with that. Their spiritual guru is Marx and Mao. Be thankful that Stalin is not higher up on their list of heroes.
In that I could never be a Marxist, Mustapha would never be my guy. I was “hoping” for the best, but this is just a B grade movie a few lucky breaks from being a total disaster. May the Koolaid always have a nice chill, Amerika.
Posted by: Django - N Exile In/Around the 30th Parallel | May 26, 2010 12:25 PM
Hey Johnnie D - was it perfectly legal when President Reagan offered Sen. S.I. Hayakawa (R-CA) a job to get out of a crowded Republican Senate primary race?
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So if it is bad for Obama, then it's just as bad when Reagan did it, right?
Posted by: BC | May 26, 2010 1:02 PM
Maybe if Obama wouldn't blame, criticize, belittle, antagonize the Republicans they might get some work done. But he sure isn't a civil person. Hopefully those Democrats are seeing how he really is, my way or no way. Apparently his behavior is starting to show in the media, as well as that practice what you preach thing didn't work either. I'm surprised he hasn't started arresting people for not doing what he wants, but I'm sure that will be coming.
I'm proud to see at least one state standing up and doing something...WAY TO GO AZ. We have troops all over the world we are gonna run out of protection on our land. Electrify the fence along Mexico if you so dam afraid of them. We put so dam much money in it, might as well us it for something.
HAD ENOUGH OF OBAMA
Posted by: former Democrat now Independent | May 26, 2010 1:15 PM
Every week, like clock work. The Repugs have to do or say something even more repulsive than what they did or said the week before just to mantain their status as first class fringe assholes. It must be in the party platform or something.
What is it about Southern, white Republicans that they seem to think it's okay to insult the President. Wilson shouting out you lie from the House during the state of the union. Corker insulting him by asking him how he "when he wakes up in the morning, comes over to a luncheon like ours today, how does he reconcile that duplicity?"
I am not one to hear dog whistles much, but sounds to me like (R) Corker was doing a little here, especially bragging about accusing the President of duplicity.
Posted by: Rob Flynn | May 26, 2010 1:21 PM
The president is a...piece of garbage. End of story.
Posted by: John D | May 26, 2010 11:44 AM
;
.....And al-Qaeda agrees with you. Great job providing aid and comfort to the enemy.
Posted by: janet | May 26, 2010 1:46 PM
Republicans are amazing. They refuse to cooperate, by policy, in writing etc, then they turn around and accuse the opposition of refusing to cooperate.
This is yet another reason the GOP will do less well than they think they will this fall. Americans are aware of the fact that Republicans have no interest in governing. In fact, in the end it will be Republicans who will help Democrats get reelected more than Democrats will help Democrats.
Posted by: Daniel Lynch | May 26, 2010 1:53 PM
Obama is in S.F. on a fundraising and, after 5 weeks will finally go to the Gulf, but will vacation in Chicago on Memorial Day and not go to Arlington Cemetery. What a president we now have.
Posted by: MountainHome | May 26, 2010 1:53 PM
Actually John D,
The republican Senators 'bug eyes' McConnell, Lindsey Graham, and grandpa McCain are foul smelling pieces of trash who have done absoultely nothing for the American people since Obama took office. Me thinks that they just can't handle the fact that he occupies the White House. I also think these republican Senators are unpatriotic, unAmerican bigots, uncapable of any independent thinking and devoid of any new ideas, just like yourself.
Posted by: Doug R. | May 26, 2010 1:59 PM
Obama Speaks! I read the bill! I read the bill! Arizona is trying to go through the JIM CROW BACKDOOR! Arizona is trying to go through the JIM CROWISM BACKDOOR! Keep the GOP coming! Keep the GOP coming! They're trying to go through the back door! My United States Mexico Border Enforcement Review Commission has spoken! Arizona is trying to go through the JIM CROWISM BACKDOOR! Trespassers in the First Degree! What is that! No Federal Laws! What is that! "Audit of ATTESTATIONS" is now STATE LAW at gunpoint, Arizona SWATPOINT! Keep the GOP coming! Keep the GOP coming! We need talk! For all of those who are drinking the TEA at the GOP PARTAY! No Federal Laws! Just Jan's Law! This is can be an "Economic Holocaust" Keep the GOP coming! Keep the GOP coming! Because we need TALK! Because John D and others want the mexican brown skin, brown eye YOU LIE! Obama, brown skin, brown eyes men, women and children to skip the GOP End GAME of you unto them! Just more blame Obama while drinking the TEA! Karl hears the voices! Beck hears the voices! Sarah hears the voices! Arizona is trying to go through the JIM CROW BACKDOOR! Keep the cars coming! Keep the cars coming "TACO and a BEER SUMMIT."
Posted by: Roger Morris | May 26, 2010 3:01 PM
No surprises here. The incompetent in chief goes to tell the repubs how its gonna be and then pouts when they don't bow down and kiss his feet. The arrogance of this fool knows no bounds. Of course he interrupts people when they are speaking, its a throwback to the closest thing to a job this lecturer has done.
When you waste a trillion dollars giving unending unemployment, welfare checks to the 40 percent that don't pay taxes, payoffs to unions and bailouts to corrupt state governments and don't make a dent in unemployment all while claiming a laser focus on jobs, you are simply a liar.
And now this idiot wants to talk amnesty because he's stuck a few soldiers in the desert without ammo or the authority to arrest. Maybe its time to stop treating people as if they are stupid. The only people stupid enough to believe your crap are the brain dead libs and the illiterates strolling across our borders.
Posted by: Hans | May 26, 2010 3:16 PM
Obama repeatedly extended a hand of reconciliation but the Republicans spurned him.
He offered them numerous opportunities to meet with him, either live on television or privately; their only response, in the meetings they actually attended, was to spout stale Republican talking points.
I imagine about now Obama regrets having Biden as VP. If he had Hillary, he could sic her on them, like a Doberman or a Rottweiler. Her talents are wasted at the State Deparment. Her forte is somewhere else, somewhere amongst those mythological characters. Let's see---Diana? Hera? ... well, it's there somewhere in Gayley's Classic Mythology....
His felt need to be the nice cop is fine, but lacks one thing:
The bad cop.
Posted by: ornery | May 26, 2010 3:24 PM
The president is a...piece of garbage. End of story.
Posted by: John D | May 26, 2010 11:44 AM
;
.....And al-Qaeda agrees with you. Great job providing aid and comfort to the enemy.
Posted by: janet | May 26, 2010 1:46 PM
Janet
You are about as inteligent as the past morons who claimed driving SUV's or smoking pot supported terrorism. Maybe the problem is people like you always want to find someone else to blame for your miserable life, just like your spineless leader wants to blame someone else.
Posted by: Libs are Fools | May 26, 2010 3:25 PM
Republicans are amazing. They refuse to cooperate, by policy, in writing etc, then they turn around and accuse the opposition of refusing to cooperate.
This is yet another reason the GOP will do less well than they think they will this fall. Americans are aware of the fact that Republicans have no interest in governing. In fact, in the end it will be Republicans who will help Democrats get reelected more than Democrats will help Democrats.
Posted by: Daniel Lynch | May 26, 2010 1:53 PM
Daniel, unfortunately the Democrats have been just as uncooperative as the Republicans. Neither side wants to sit down and work together to pass any bipartisan legislation. To get any type of bipartisanship it takes give and take and some compromise. But this in not happening in Washington today. I believe a major part of the problem is that the political extremes, the Far Left with the Democrats, and the Far Right with the Republicans, influence what the two political parties do. And the supporters of the two extremes just add to the problem. Just look at some of the posts on both sides and you will see what I mean. They go well beyond debating the issues with their name calling and hateful accusations of each other. Both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party are failing the American people. Maybe it is time for a Third Party that represents Middle America and not its extremes.
Posted by: depot jim | May 26, 2010 3:34 PM
Agreed Obama is a Marxist, so technically he's not lying when he says that he's not a socialist. His goal: "to fundamentally change Amerika."
Mission accomplished.
We are so far in debt, that our economic freedom will be limited by a slow economy that will not produce new jobs, or opportunity...see Europe for an example, or the former great state of California which has become just like Greece. Most of the jobs are government jobs and the unions have been given outrageous contracts and benefits in order for Democrats to be elected and re-elected. See the comments by the former pimp of the Assembly Willie Brown. This guy is an archetype of a corrupt political boss; he'd make you Dems proud in Chicago, even:
http://cbs13.com/local/willie.brown.interview.2.1704657.html
Willie Brown: Architect Of A Money Meltdown?
Eventually, the man who was once one of the most powerful people in the state speaks - and makes some powerful statements about the unforeseen consequences of his political decisions.
"In the world of politics we don't think in these terms," Brown says of the political decisions in the Statehouse. "We think very short-range: how can they be helpful in getting us re-elected. Period."
It's a very bold admission from a man with a deep history here in California. It's been 15 years since Willie Brown left the Statehouse. In that time, the state saw unprecedented growth both in California's businesses and in its housing market. He also oversaw the expansion of the state government and the protection of its employees.
"I had actually participated in moving legislation to reduce the retirement age for teachers and I did it with great pride and I created it in my resume as one of my great achievements."
He also realizes, though, that he helped set up the problems we see today: state IOU's, furlough Fridays, and layoffs on a scale the state has never before had to face.
"Nobody took the time to do the analysis that would have persuaded us we needed to add money to make it work," says Brown.
Before his time, state jobs were almost entry-level, nearly blue collar in their description. Now, those workers are protected civil servants with the same benefits as the private sector. It's a change Brown now believes was short-sighted, even self-serving. He freely admits that he benefitted with a 15 year run as speaker and a long political career. Still, he doesn't believe politicians deserve ALL the blame. He puts some of the blame on us, the voters.
"The public is equally guilty," he says emphatically, "we are equally guilty of being generous, literally to a fault with retirees."
Beyond that he won't commit to any answers about how to fix what's NOT working because he believes that you have to play the hand you're dealt. He's far from apologizing for what he did, either.
"I think politicians should never apologize for making a decision based on new knowledge, superior knowledge, or better ideas."
The biggest challenges he sees? Under-funded education, refusal to raise taxes and a resistance to cut programs in a legislature he believes is hamstrung by term limits. What he sees most threatening of all, though, is what he calls a ticking time bomb: retiree benefits for state workers.
"Job security, zero requirement on the performance side, longevity or seniority for a promotion," counts out Brown speaking about some of the concerns regarding state workers. "So when we said we're going to start making you comparable [to the private sector], we didn't move it all. So it was half done? It was less than a half - less than half!"
When asked what he most regrets about his time in Sacramento?
"Not being as attentive to the long-range implications of some of the policies that I advocated."
What an arrogant fool. His policies and political ambition have bankrupted the state, but he claims that his ideas are "SUPERIOR." He made deals with labor unions in order to secure political power. Let's see who else is doing that on a national level...hmmm. Can you say SEIU and Barrack Obama?
By the way Brown comes from N. California. The same area that gave us Nancy Pelosi. Yes, in some ways it is the voters fault. These knee jerk liberals swallow all the lies from fools like Pelosi and Willie Brown, and don't forget Obama.
Posted by: Free to Watch Liberals Bankrupt Europe | May 26, 2010 5:06 PM
Before CommonSense,
Assuming what you read in Media Matters is true, do two wrongs make a right?
Janet,
Good to see you are back stalking John D. I'm sure al Qaeda is hanging on every word John D writes.
Ornery,
Are you calling a Hillary a dog?
Posted by: Terry | May 26, 2010 6:28 PM
Doug R. @ 1:59 p.m.
Got a little something something from The Doors:
People are strange when you're a stranger
Faces look ugly when you're alone
Women seem wicked when you're unwanted
Streets are uneven when you're down
When you're strange
Faces come out of the rain
When you're strange
No one remembers your name
When you're strange
When you're strange
When you're strange
We absolutely cannot discuss ugly without dragging in the names Dickie Durbin, Chuckie Schummer, Harry Reid, Pat Leahy. This is butt-face Ugly stuff with a capital U. Strange, U-G-L-Y, strange again, and on a bad day, a touch of wicked. Something Wicked Comes This Way Once. We can only “hope”.
Posted by: Django - N Exile In/Around the 30th Parallel | May 26, 2010 6:57 PM
No, T.
Dobes and Rotties are not in Gayley's Classical Mythology.
Posted by: ornery | May 26, 2010 8:21 PM
Ornery,
Noooooo, Ornery, it’s not like that. Not the meetings that I have seen.
In the Health Care Load of Crap meeting, Congressman Paul Ryan asked GREAT questions that Mr. “Hope and Change” absolutely could not answer. McCain and Lamar Alexander were subjected to an ambush. Mustapha said something totally stupidly asinine to McCain like “The election is over, John”. I lost ALL of what little respect that I may have ever had for the guy right then, right there.
These people have NO Class, AND, I would have to go farther and say that Mustapha is apparently too dense to even know that he IS a damn Marxist. Not really sure what they teach at Harvard these days. Somebody needs to tell me.
Free To Watch ~ Thanx.
Posted by: Django - N Exile In/Around the 30th Parallel | May 26, 2010 8:45 PM
The meeting was productive? Yeah right. Go give another speech to some brain dead liberals who still swallow whatever you spoon feed them. As for the rest of us, maybe we can find some practical use for Obama's daily speeches. Maybe we could harness all of that hot air and use it to plug the oil well.
Posted by: Herbie H. | May 26, 2010 11:16 PM
Such arrogance!. I am not looking at this as Democrat vs, Republican but as an indication of the man who thinks he knows better than the 300 million citizens of Americans. The day he starts doing the "peoples will" that will be the day he earns my support.
Posted by: Paul | May 27, 2010 8:25 AM
The president is a...piece of garbage. End of story.
Posted by: John D | May 26, 2010 11:44 AM
;
.....And al-Qaeda agrees with you. Great job providing aid and comfort to the enemy.
Posted by: janet | May 26, 2010 1:46 PM
No Al-Qaeda loves BO they would hate a strong smart president
Posted by: Libtard | May 27, 2010 9:47 AM
DJ, It's like RASHOMON, isn't it?
I saw the same meeting televised, from Blair House.
Yes, Obama reminded LaMar and McCain the election was over.
After they spouted the same old talking points.
So, that proves what?
That they spouted the same ole talking points and Obama reminded them their world view had been rejected.
So, I'd say they need some new talking points.
O, and I wouldn't use "Drill, Baby,Drill" any more, either, if I were a Replican.
Posted by: ornery | May 27, 2010 11:27 AM
No Al-Qaeda loves BO they would hate a strong smart president
Posted by: Libtard | May 27, 2010 9:47 AM
They must have loved the Supreme Court appointed George Bush as well. After all, he ignored all of their warnings regarding the 9/11 attacks.
Posted by: Doug R. | May 27, 2010 3:13 PM
Ornery,
RASHOMON ~ YES! U, my man have nailed it. A regular old Liberal would have just called me a name and been done with it all. I saw sincerity in the Republicans’ questions and respect for the office and the office holder, but Yes!, it is RASHOMON. There is NO improving upon that.
Just heard the word on Awl ~ a moratorium on drilling. What a movie this is turning into. I got FOUR contract calls today from Engineering companies that I thought the democrats had already killed off. Had NO clue why they were calling. All of a sudden, they are seeing increasing margins on hydrocarbons. Amerika, you WILL pay AND we thank you in advance. The price of awl, thus the price of gasoline, diesel, aromatics, maybe No. 6 heating oil, are headed UP. Gasoline, $4 per gallon, coming rat atcha. Sure would not rule it out at this point.
We will all get to see how this scene plays out. What a movie!
Posted by: Django - N Exile In/Around the 30th Parallel | May 27, 2010 10:35 PM
Why do all you freaks obsess about Bush? youre living in the past man you should try to get out more
They must have loved the Supreme Court appointed George Bush as well. After all, he ignored all of their warnings regarding the 9/11 attacks.
Posted by: Doug R. | May 27, 2010 3:13 PM
Posted by: Libtard | May 28, 2010 1:22 AM
Doogie,
Please explain what you would have done different than President Bush in the month after he learned of these potential attack plans?
Can you name all the attacks during the Clinton administrations and the responses to the attacks? There was a President al Qaeda loved
Posted by: Terry | May 28, 2010 7:23 AM
They must have loved the Supreme Court appointed George Bush as well. After all, he ignored all of their warnings regarding the 9/11 attacks.
Posted by: Dordy | May 28, 2010 9:49 AM
T, I admit I'm no admirer of Bill Clinton.
Far from it.
But that whole Ken Starr circus, let's be frank, was just that.
A huge diversion from what Congress should have been doing.
Richard Clarke more than anyone called it correctly: 9-11 was a huge failure of all the government agencies that were supposed to be minding the store.
O, well. Now the truth has caught up with us and America is paying the price.
All the bills started to come due in Sept. 2008 , didn't they?
Not to mention the most recent one, from BP and Halliburton.
Krugman in a recent column mused that this may be another "lost decade" like the Japanese lost decade.
I don't think he pursued that one far enough:
The decade I'd compare this one to is the 1930's.
Posted by: ornery | May 28, 2010 1:06 PM
Dorky,
Same question I asked Doogie, if you were president Bush and find out about potential al Qaeda attacks in August, 2001, what would you have done differently in one month?
Posted by: Terry | May 28, 2010 3:04 PM
Ornery,
Bill Clinton perjury investigation did not divert attention of Congress from doing what they needed to do nor did it divert Clinton either. Clinton just choose not to strike al Qaeda back.
Clinton seemed to be able to run a re-election campaign quite well, sign welfare reform, lower capital gain tax rates, passed SCHIP, digned the Defense of Marriage Act, and signed the Iraq Liberation Act.
BUt you are saying he couldn;t multi-task? Do you remember what he did about six weeks after signing the Iraqi Liberation Act on the eve of his impeachment - he bombed Iraq for four days. He bombed Iraq for four days over WMDs.
Your premise that he was too distracted to carry out his primary duty to secure this nation is just wrong.
9-11 was a huge failure of gov't agencies, all of which fell under the executive branch's responsibilities.
The bills that came due in 2008 were the cuase of too much gov't not too little. It was gov't interference on trying to expand the mortgage pool that caused this mess - as we are still paying for it - see the finanical condition of Freddie and Fannie as Exhibit A. Reforms of these two GSE's was tried to be passed by President Bush, but he could not get it thru the dems in Congress.
The oil spill would probably not have happened if oil companies were allowed to drill in less risky places such as ANWAR and the much shallower outer continential shelf.
The decade of 2010 - 2019 should could become the 1930' if BO is allowed to keep expnding gov't, raising taxes (which he would eventually do or try to do), and increasing regulations which will drive companies overseas.
Posted by: Terry | May 28, 2010 8:21 PM
After all, he ignored all of their warnings regarding the 9/11 attacks.
Posted by: shape ups skechers | May 29, 2010 11:05 AM