Tea Party leader calls Allah 'monkey-god'

You've gotta love the Teabagger Republicans. They wear goofy hats, carry weirdo misspelled signs and spit at people. Then they act "appalled" when one of their goon squad spews something vile in public. God help us if these right wing wackos ever get the keys to the car again.

Does this clown even know that Jesus spoke aramaic? And guess what the aramaic word for god is - Allah!

I am starting to wonder if some of our political leaders on both sides of the aisle, Democrats, Republicans and Tea Party Leaders, are real idiots. First Tea Party Chairman calls Allah "Monkey God", two days ago Republican Senate Candidate in Kentucky, Rand Paul, questions part of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, in Connecticut Democratic Senate Candidate Richard Blumenthal lies about serving in Vietnam, and Senate Democratic Majority Whip Dick Durbin accused our troops in Iraq of acting like Nazis. And then we have our own President Obama, at a State Dinner for the Mexican President, publicly denouncing Arizona for trying to protect the borders because the Federal Government under his watch and before has been so inept at doing it. Then we can go on forever on our leaders in Chicago, Cook County and Illinois that lie, cheat and make money at the taxpayers expense. It is time to throw them all out and get some competent leadership if its out there.

From this, I surmise the Tea Party movement is going nowhere.

I mean, Mark, is that all ya got?

Attacks on long-gone religious figures?

The Tea Party has a leader? They're attempting to to appear mainstream? Who knew?

Barry should apologize to all Muslims on behalf of all us evil racist Americans

What is really awful is that they used the "m" word, too. Can't use that word. Should have said simian-god, or something to that effect.

TEA PARTY GOP SPEAK! YOU LIE! YOU LIE! You come with me! We Lied! Bush Lied! Cheney Lied! Come out come out wherever you are! YOU LIE! YOU LIE! It was always about "civil rights." Just not yours. It was always about "Theft." It was always about "Deception." Come out come out wherever you are! YOU LIE! YOU LIE, President Obama brown skin, brown eyes man, woman child! We drank the TEA! We went to the GOP PARTAY! Now what we say go! Come out come out wherever you are! It was always about brown skin, brown eyes "private social security accounts." Papers! Papers! Original Birth Certificates or no America for you! Stop! Stop! We've become too racist to fail! We're drinking the TEA! Rand Paul is drinking the TEA! Just not Koolaid! Too much "Chicken and Change" going on in America! It's the PAYBACK! GOP GETBACK! YOU LIE! YOU LIE! You come with me! Sarah is the EVE in EEVS! She'll take you electronic DNA!

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Barry should apologize to all Muslims on behalf of all us evil racist Americans

Posted by: Libtard | May 21, 2010 1:55 PM
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Bobbys Mommy sock puppet,

Your racism and race baiting is appalling.

If you're ever wondering why your beloved Republican party can't elections anymore, look in the mirror.

Hey People,

If you're having as much trouble understanding what the Teabagger racists are saying as I am, here's a handy Teabagger Language guide for you.

The Illustrated Teabagger Dictionary:

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"Here are 24 key words, and their associated misspelled placards, that are now charged with the fevered, dog-whistling undertones of Fox News and the new right."

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Just send Obowdown on another apology tour...he can take his entourage, the Democrats in Congress with him.

The headline does not match the actual story. (What a surprise.)

The quote reads "...the terrorists' monkey-god...."

I think every reasonable Muslim would tell you that the terrorists don't worship the same God they do - Allah.

Darn, " duplicitous jim ", where were your charges of ineptitude against the Bush&Cheney, who for 8 years didn't fix the border problem !! You and the Clone Paul should get your acts together, he wants to repeal the Civil Rights Act, while you want to scream at President Obama, charging him with criticizing a State for nazi-like tactics. Get real, get straight and get over the fact that you lost the White House !! By the way, " denouncing Arizona " is a bit over the top, but you T.Baggers have that extremism about you !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

What surprises me is Williams actually gave allah more credit than he deserves. The people that follow him haven't even reached the evolution level of monkeys yet.

Kathleen, repeating DNC talking points isn't helping the Swamp's attempt to appear nonpartisan.

FOX NEWS EMPLOYEE JOHN STOSSEL AGREE'S WITH REPUBLICAN RAND PAUL THAT IT'S OK FOR A BUSINESS TO BE RACIST.

Stossel calls for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights Act

STOSSEL: Totally. I'm in total agreement with Rand Paul.

KELLY: But that's not what Rand Paul said. Rand Paul agreed that if it's run by the government, yes intervention is fine. He took issue with the public accommodations, with private businesses being forced to pony up under the discrimination laws.

STOSSEL: And I would go further than he was willing to go, as he just issued the statement, and say it's time now to repeal that part of the law

KELLY: What?

STOSSEL: because private businesses ought to get to discriminate. And I won't won't ever go to a place that's racist and I will tell everybody else not to and I'll speak against them. But it should be their right to be racist.

Megyn Kelly of Fox News, the unlikely voice of reason on this issue, presses Stossel further on this question of "Is private discrimination right or wrong?" As always, the free market is the answer when no other answer can justify discrimination.

STOSSEL: Because eventually they would have lost business. The free market competition would have cleaned the clocks of the people who didn't serve most customers.

KELLY: How do you know that, John?

STOSSEL: I don't know that for sure.
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http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201005200033

Dear John Stossel, when you are trying to justify a Republican Senate candidates private turned public discriminatory views, and you have painted yourself into a corner of stupid while twisting logic into a pretzel, and the best you can do is answer the question "How do you know that" with "I don't know that for sure." That is the exact moment when you should STFU, you moron!

You see, what Republican/Teabagger/Libertarian, fringe right, free market extremists are arguing is the same logic Eric Cartman uses when he sings that "There are too many minorities at my waterpark" and someone should do "something".
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http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/256710

Hey Republicans, It's the year 2010, not 1910, not 1810. WTF? The Civil rights Act passed in 1964. It is the law. WE ARE NEVER GOING BACK! Rosa Park stays on the freaking bus, and no mental gymnastics that pro business, pro racism, pro free market right wing extremists try to pull is EVER, EVER going to be tolerated. I have news for you, dear free market fetishizing, pro racism Right wing fringers, you are NEVER getting your country back, we are going forward, America is going forward, with or without you.

What the heck are you babbling about? You should get out of you moms basement and go meet a nice boy maybe then you wouldnt be suck an angry delusional Nutbag.

Bobbys Mommy sock puppet,

Your racism and race baiting is appalling.

If you're ever wondering why your beloved Republican party can't elections anymore, look in the mirror.

Posted by: HHH | May 21, 2010 2:44 PM

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Just send Obowdown on another apology tour...he can take his entourage,
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Crying Teabagger,

I agree, Pres Obama should handcuff Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rove together and take them on a world tour where they can apologize for their eight years of Republican war mongering and fear mongering. It would be a great first step towards world peace.

Then after the tour we can throw the BushCo Republican bums in the Fed pen and throw away the key.

Mission Accomplished.

If the banana fits, eat it.
The term Monkey god actually comes from Hindu religious beliefs. People who care what tea party leaders say must also care what Don Fitz & HHH say. Either way both don't matter in the big scheme of things.

The Republican party will eventually collapse under the weight of the Tea Klux Klan wing of their party.

The few victories that they will win will backfire on them big time once their hatred and racism is put on full display in congress for everyone to see and be repulsed by. I don't care how much halfwit right wing rubes like Sister Sarahcudda cheerlead for them, it will eventually turn into a Epic Republican Fail.

Can we get some appeasers in here?

You don't want to go calling vicious, inhuman, cruel, sadistic, disgusting, delusional terrorists that randomly blow up bombs placed purposely to maim and kill innocent men, women and children around the world names, now do you?

All you democrats say you're sorry.

Darn, " duplicitous jim ", where were your charges of ineptitude against the Bush&Cheney, who for 8 years didn't fix the border problem !! You and the Clone Paul should get your acts together, he wants to repeal the Civil Rights Act, while you want to scream at President Obama, charging him with criticizing a State for nazi-like tactics. Get real, get straight and get over the fact that you lost the White House !! By the way, " denouncing Arizona " is a bit over the top, but you T.Baggers have that extremism about you !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, IL | May 21, 2010 4:11 PM

Don, I was not happy with some of the Bush policies either. The Bush Administration and others before that, both Republican and Democratic have been very inept in defending our borders and have allowed waves of illegals to enter the counter. The Bush-Cheney Administration did some things that were good and other things that were not good. No administration is perfect, including Obama, and do not always make the right decisions. As a historian it is really easy to be a "Monday Morning Quarterback" viewing things that occurred years before. We will really not have a good view of how the Bush Administration did for at least another 10 to 20 because we do Not know how those policies will work out in the long run. As for Obama it is really impossible to rate his administration at this time because he is not even half way through his first term. Don, you need to wake up and view things with more of an open mind. Both Republican and Democratic Administrations have done good things that have benefited the country in the long run and both have made blunders, sometimes big ones.

I also NEVER accused President Obama of using Nazi-tactics. Please read my post. That was what Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois accused our forces i n Iraq of doing. Having a child that has been sent over three times during our war in Iraq I considered that remark to be insulting to everyone that has served. Durbin finally apologized after coming under pressure from Mayor Daley.

HHH

Once more you pull the race card pathetic.

DON F

You're about as pathetic as HHH is. He did not say he wanted to repeal the Civil Rights Act.

It's okay to attack Christianity and Judaism but hands-off any other religious. You bleeding heart liberals are so predictable and hateful. One of you pathetic small minded liberals even posted a link stating that the Democrats have won seven special elections in a row. I guess you just choose to overlook what happened in Massachusetts. I also notice how the mainstream media report about somebody calling Allah a monkey God but no mention of the DC police escorting a terrorist group to a neighborhood in Maryland so that they could protest at a bank executives home. The executive was not even there all they managed to do was terrorize the neighborhood with their loud and unruly manners. Did I mention they were SEIU members and the executive was from the Bank of America. Could it be they are upset that they have to pay back the $90 million to Bank of America that they borrow to help finance Pres. Obama's election. No that story is not worth mentioning if you're a liberal or one of their comrades in the mainstream media. Are these Obama's Brownshirts like the ones Hitler had before the beginning of the second world war.

It is time to throw them all out and get some competent leadership if its out there.

Posted by: depot jim | May 21, 2010 1:09 PM

And replace them with??? Have you seen the choices IL has for state and federal offices? I think the only competent person in the current political climate is the one who doesn't run.

Teabaggage: The bigotry lying ever so slightly below the surface of teabaggers that somehow always manages to expose itself at the most inopportune time.

Really, who cares about the Allah monkey god comment? 80 percent of Americans could care less.
Now, having a mosque on the site where the World Trade Towers once sat before they were knocked down by kooks on a misson from Allah, now THAT is insulting! That would sort of be like putting a Nazi shrine at Aushwitz.

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HHH Once more you pull the race card pathetic.
Posted by: CrooksInDC | May 21, 2010 5:58 PM
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It's pretty simple, Clown in DC,

If you Teabagging Wingnutters don't want to be called racists, then quit being RACISTS!

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Hey Teabagger Republicans!

There's no playing the "race card" here. That excuse of yours is getting old.

Over and over and over again America see's the racist things that you say and do, and they've come to a conclusion:

REPUBLICANS Are Racists....

There's no "card" involved here, none, zero, zip, nada.

And your drooling support of the new Racial Profiling Law that the AZ Republicans just passed is even more proof of this.

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Really, who cares about the Allah monkey god comment? 80 percent of Americans could care less.
Posted by: John D | May 21, 2010 6:16 PM
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Yeah, we know Lil Johnny Drooler.

Angry middle aged single and still a virgin white guy Republicans like yourself only believe in Republican Jebus.......everyone else can go pound sand, right?

http://all4thepain.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/republican_jesus_sml.gif

My reaction to this title?

SO WHAT.

LOL

Better to become outraged that Obomba has totally ignore the world's largest ecological disaster ever, and is leaving our borders open ON PURPOSE.

Talk about the enemy within, and you want us to get our panties in a bunch because this guy called a bunch of terrorists a few names?

Get real..

Hey tea-baggers! Forget about Sarah Palin now you really have a fool to rally around: Rand Paul. Now we can see what you really stand for: you support discrimination against people based on race and physical abilitity. Parsing the 1964 Civil Rights act is all we needed in order to see the direction the tea-baggers are headed. But then the tea-baggers are just a sad group of old, rich, white, malcontent republicans who hate minorities, the middle class and the poor and can't stand that we have a black president. When they howl "TAKE BACK AMERICA!!!!" they mean to take it back from the minorities. Luckily the middle class and the poor far outnumber the tea-baggers so they will have little effect in November and Rand Paul will simply fade away. Mark Montgomery NYC, NY 10036 boboberg@nyc.rr.com

First, the guy shouldn't have said - it was wrong.

However, I love all you flatliners and your selective outrage. About a month ago, the craetors of South Park were making an episode that insulted Islam and you were either silent or cheering on free speech. Also, where is the outrage over all the insulrts from the left about Christianity?

Now look at what one of your favorite Congressman had to say about Republicans: "Why would you put people (Republicans) in charge of government who just don't want to do it? I mean, you wouldn't expect to see Al Qaeda members as pilots."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/05/21/dem_congressman_grayson_compares_gop_to_al-qaeda.html

Trickled On Hate, Hate, Hate, if you have any sense of descency, you s/b first in line to condemn this.

In typical Republican-Libertarian-T.Bagger fashion, " duplicitous jim ", is not capable of responding to my post, correctly, he must distort what I posted. For his enlightenment, here, again, is what I posted:
" You and the Clone Paul should get your acts together, he wants to repeal the Civil Rights Act, while you want to scream at President Obama, charging him with criticizing a State for nazi-like tactics. "
Where does it say that I accused you, of accusing President Obama "..using Nazi-tactics. " ? . It is your co-horts, McCain, Clones Paul, Getrich, " Show me the Money " Palin, that are supporting, encouraging nazi-like tactics in Arizona. As far as I am concerned, President Obama can tell the President of Mexico, or anybody else in the world, how wrong he thinks those racists tactics that Arizona enacted against citizens of America and of Arizona are.
As for the Morons, Bush&Cheney go, I didn't ask you if you were happy with their incompetence, I asked you, where was your screeching, for the Bush&Cheney failure to deal with, or solve, the border problem, during their 8 years of incompetence and corruption? In typical Republican-Libertarian-T.Bagger fashion, your message to distort, confuse, and misinform are back in full swing. You boys and girls, of the Rabid Right, must be getting ready to promote the Clones Paul, who already look more like the Clowns Paul. Yeah, right, repeal the Civil Rights Act of 1964 or pat British Petroleum on the back for their incompetence and lying about the malfeasance in the Gulf of British Petroleum.
The Republican-Libertarian-T.Baggers must have a warehouse full of these idjits, these incompetents, that they continue to run for elected office. After Bush&Cheney, the chance of those incompetents being in our White House, again, for at least a generation, in highly unlikely !! Hey, Randy, let the laughs begin !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Politics are so silly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK8EmZLfYiU

Politics are so silly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK8EmZLfYiU

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Posted by: HHH | May 21, 2010 2:44 PM
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You have absolutely no place to speak about racism. Every time you write about "white" people, you always make some negative, stereotyped and bigoted remark with regard to them. You are either oblivious to the fact that you express such deep racial hatred or you are the biggest hypocrite on the board. Perhaps you are both.

HHH

Is that the best that you got like I said your pathetic. When are you brain dead liberal drones going to realize you now represent less than 20% of the American voters. And going around and calling everybody that disagrees with your wacky ideals a racist has been played out and nobody really buys it anymore. That is nobody who can thank for themselves meaning non-liberals. Enjoy your ride until November because Tuesday showed what is in store this primary season. The polls show that the Democrats that won this past Tuesday are all behind by double digit numbers. So keep pulling the race card that's all you have left. And here are some polling numbers that I love because I know it drives liberals nuts.

71% of the people living in Arizona support their new immigration law.
68% of Americans oppose boycotts of Arizona over new immigration law.
41% say random selection from phonebook would do a better job than the current Congress.
67% say Mexico does not want to stop illegal immigration.
55% want Arizona's new immigration law enacted in their own state.
56% still want to repeal Obama care
64% want offshore drilling.
In Kentucky it's Paul with 59% versus Conway with 34%.
In Arkansas Boozman is ahead of both Democrats by double-digit. With 66% versus Lincoln and with 60% versus Halter.

Dem Congressman Alan Grayson just likened the Republican Party to Al Qaeda.
I guess to Kathleen Hennessey (and other media hypocrites), that's "mainstream" discourse.
But we know Kathleen's definition of "outside the mainstream"--anything SHE doesn't like.

This is just shameful! If ever there was a reason for the terrorists to respond nothing beats this! I am appalled and discusted from both sides of the isle but most certainly more from these goons sipping way too much tea and their counterparts spinning their wing nuts. The "Dumbing" of America has succeeded and flourishes and for that we ALL should be ashamed, but alas, these people have no shame so we as a compasionate and just society are no more. Thank you Repugs, Thank you Teabaggers, Thank you Sara Palin for destroying our core of moral values and "All Men Are Created Equal"

Whether or not tea party but the republicans will definitely make the necessary oppositions regarding this case. They always are tend to oppose them in whatever they feel like and not to favor them even if they are doing good.

Darn, " duplicitous jim ", where were your charges of ineptitude against the Bush&Cheney, who for 8 years didn't fix the border problem !! You and the Clone Paul should get your acts together, he wants to repeal the Civil Rights Act, while you want to scream at President Obama, charging him with criticizing a State for nazi-like tactics.

Don, there is your quote accusing me of calling the President names which I NEVER did. I think to you need to take a course in Fundamental Reading because you did not comprehend anything correctly. In all you posts are the same old "Blah, Blah, Blah!" The Ancient Greeks would refer to someone like you as a "Barbarian" that does not have the capability of carrying on an intelligent conversation. And when you do say something it just comes out "Blah, Blah, Blah!" I can't wait to see one of your typical posts today. It will be the predictable and typical "Blah, Blah, Blah!"

The Monster Mosque at Ground Zero

As the ninth anniversary of the darkest day in American history approaches, some people are saying that it’s time to move on from September 11th, 2001.

Daisy Khan says, “We need to take the 9/11 tragedy and turn it into something very positive.”

Something very positive, Ms. Khan? What could ever be positive about a day on which thousands of Americans and others were murdered in an unprovoked sneak attack on American soil by maniacal Islamic terrorists?

To clarify, Daisy Khan is executive director of the American Society for Muslim Advancement and wife of a local imam. She concluded that “very positive” statement by adding, “It will also serve as a major platform for amplifying the silent voice of the majority of Muslims who have nothing to do with extremist ideologies.”

The “it” was a reference to plans to build a 13 story “monster mosque” at 45 Park Place in New York City, . . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1697)

See this is how the liberal brain works (malfunctions). Someone insults the "TERRORIST'S" god, and liberals immediately think that is going to offend Muslims. Really? If their god is a god that induces them to murder innocent men, women, and children around the world, do you believe that the rest of the Muslims also want that to happen and support that behavior, AND if they do, should we be respectful of their beliefs and supply them with bomb making material?

You obviously can't read too well, " ridiculous jim ". In any case, your distortions of my posts are typical and understandable, given your lack of any credible stance on any issue. You, Republican-Libertarian-T.Baggers are a pathetic lot, in search of a viable candidate for any office. President Obama and Vice-President Biden are doing this country a great service in spite of the lying, distorting and small-mindedness of the Republican-Libertarian-T.Baggers !! Go get them Sarah and Randy, show " ridiculous jim " that you deserve his undying support !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

You bring dead liberals probably do not even understand what he was talking about in a Civil Rights Act. A section that includes the groundwork for public housing and we all know how well that worked. There are very few public housing sites that have not turned into war zones. But then again liberal like to hold people back and make them think that they are really trying to help them out. Pathetic!

Really terry? It was wrong to insult a terrorist's god that inspires them to blow up innocent men, women and children around the world? Really?

Really?

Looking forward to the arrival of the next one

"Really terry? It was wrong to insult a terrorist's god that inspires them to blow up innocent men, women and children around the world? Really?

Really?

Posted by: Free To Watch Liberals Bankrupt Europe | May 25, 2010 3:43 AM"

Whatever name you're calling it, the god of the terrorists = the god of Muslims (non-terrorists) = the god of Jews (good and bad) = the god of christians (good and bad). There's NO difference in the god.

To insult the god of one is to insult the god of all the above (not that I really give a rat's butt about that in and of itself, but it's a matter of logic).

And to say the actions of the terrorists are being inspired by "their" god is as debatable as it is to say that the same god "inspired" christians to kill Jews throughout Europe for centuries in his name, to kill and subjugate native peoples throughout the New World, and to want to take over the government of the United States today such that we would all be governed according to a particular sect of christianity, whether or not we agree to it.

It's NOT the god who's causing problems here -- it's the ability of religious leaders who are able to take certain parts of the religious dogma and twist them into a message that they can use to whip up believers into doing things they wouldn't do otherwise. And that's a problem not ONLY in Islam but in fundamentalism in ALL three religions. All three contain messages advocating violence in the name of god. Leaders have been using religion to control others for over a millenium.

Do I think it's okay to insult the god of the terrorists? NO. Not because of the sacrilege, not because of some over-applied bit of "kindness of my heart" or the concern over what somebody else might feel. It's because the insults DO US NO GOOD at all -- create, as it were, NO BENEFIT -- and at the same time, PROVIDE TERRORISTS AND PARTICULARLY TERRORIST LEADERS WITH FODDER they can use against us: "LOOK! The evil Imperialists have insulted your Allah!! Will we stand for it? NO!!!"

Disagree? Fine. Show me where we reap a benefit from calling Allah a "Monkey god" -- any benefit at all -- that outweighs reinforcing the terrorists' hatred for us and, therefore, their willingness to die trying to destroy us.

Bankrupt,

I'm not going to throw the whole religion under the bus because of a few thousand terrorism. These terrorists are using Islam as an reason for their terrorism, Islam is not the casue of their terrorism.

The terrorist leaders and the imams are basically using Islam the same way that Reverend Wright uses Christianity - as a vehicle to spread their hate.

I wonder how long it will take for the Teabag Big Paradigm Shift:

When they realize that soon whites will be in the minority.

Then their friends on the S Ct will have to "re-visit" all those decisions scuttling the antidiscrimination laws.

When whites become the numerical minority. Looks like Scalia already has figured this out in the Chicago firefighter case.

Then the teabaggers will find they rather like the civil rights laws.

There is one God. When a cult twists a message from God into a violent religious Jihad, one that uses any tactic to main and kill people around the world just because those people are different than them, then I believe that it cannot be supported in any way, shape or form. Remember these people blew up centuries old massive statutes of Buddha.

The key word in William's statement is TERRORIST. I truly hope that the Moslem God is NOT the god of the terrorists. See my point?

I would not want a TERRORIST organization saying that they worship and have the same God as I while they torture, kill, main and commit genocide in his name.

But, since the majority of Moslems are either afraid to speak out against these tactics (and many are afraid) or they agree with the terrorists. Either case is not good.

Islam has a history of violence against outsiders (I know other religions have also, blah, blah, blah); there is NO other religion today that persecutes outsides with such fervor. That's not my opinion, it's a fact.

Which back to the point of having a Moslem Mosque at ground zero, the idea is insulting, because of the intolerance of Islam. So, you had better realize that the suggestion is an insult to western culture and not meant as an apology.

Here's a profile of the guy that wants to build a 13 story Mosque at ground zero Feisal Abdul Rauf.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2462&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+fpmdtn+%28FrontPage+Magazine+%C2%BB+Discover+the+Networks%29&utm_content=Yahoo!+Mail

So, how about the Moslems concentrate on getting their brothers to stop killing, persecuting, beheading, maiming, torturing, committing genocide in the name of Allah before we just let them roll over us.

Here's an example: http://www.nysun.com/foreign/killings-of-egypts-christians-escalate-in-ghastly/86965/

"There is one God. When a cult twists a message from God into a violent religious Jihad, one that uses any tactic to main and kill people around the world just because those people are different than them, then I believe that it cannot be supported in any way, shape or form. Remember these people blew up centuries old massive statutes of Buddha.

The key word in William's statement is TERRORIST. I truly hope that the Moslem God is NOT the god of the terrorists. See my point?

I would not want a TERRORIST organization saying that they worship and have the same God as I while they torture, kill, main and commit genocide in his name.

But, since the majority of Moslems are either afraid to speak out against these tactics (and many are afraid) or they agree with the terrorists. Either case is not good.

Islam has a history of violence against outsiders (I know other religions have also, blah, blah, blah); there is NO other religion today that persecutes outsides with such fervor. That's not my opinion, it's a fact.

Which back to the point of having a Moslem Mosque at ground zero, the idea is insulting, because of the intolerance of Islam. So, you had better realize that the suggestion is an insult to western culture and not meant as an apology.

Here's a profile of the guy that wants to build a 13 story Mosque at ground zero Feisal Abdul Rauf.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2462&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+fpmdtn+%28FrontPage+Magazine+%C2%BB+Discover+the+Networks%29&utm_content=Yahoo!+Mail

So, how about the Moslems concentrate on getting their brothers to stop killing, persecuting, beheading, maiming, torturing, committing genocide in the name of Allah before we just let them roll over us.

Here's an example: http://www.nysun.com/foreign/killings-of-egypts-christians-escalate-in-ghastly/86965/

Posted by: Free To Watch Liberals Bankrupt Europe | May 27, 2010 3:54 AM"

So, other than the apparent joy of spraying testosterone around uncontrollably, what benefit do we get from insulting god?

Does it stop any terrorists from attacking? Kill any of them?

Does it make them less inclined to BECOME terrorists if they aren't terrorists already? Does it encourage the rest of Muslim society to shun those who embrace terrorism?

How do we support terrorists by keeping a sane head about ourselves in dealing with the rest of the public or, for that matter, THEM?

Still waiting for an answer.

Well Op, you have societal condemnation, or you have societal acceptance. It's that simple. You want to accept that what the terrorists believe in, and I don't.

If you can't insult murders, torturers, people that blow up innocent, men, women, and children, then you are saying to just shut up and accept it, we don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. Maybe if we ask them real nice, they'll stop blowing people up. More PC insanity.

To turn your "logic" around... APPEASEMENT:

Does NOT stop any terrorists from attacking. It does NOT Kill any of them.

APPEASEMENT Does NOT make them less inclined to BECOME terrorists if they aren't terrorists already. Does NOT encourage the rest of Muslim society to shun those who embrace terrorism.

Putting societal, economic, yes even shunning, pressure on those that support terrorists will force Muslims to condemn terrorism (which we need to hear a lot more of from the Muslim community).

History, already has given us the answer. SEE: Muslim conquests of Spain, Egypt, Northern Africa, Eastern Europe and more recently the way Moslem law is enforced in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, and still modern egypt. They're not exactly tolerant. BUT, the rest of the world tolerates their barbaric behavior.

Posted by: Free to Watch Liberals Bankrupt Europe | May 28, 2010 6:41 PM

You're an idiot.

"Not insulting" somebody's god is NOT appeasement (and certainly not approval) of terrorists. NOBODY -- NOT ONE PERSON HERE, NOW OR EVER -- has ever done anything but condemn terrorism (although it's typical for your side to fail to see anything other than "p***ing contests" where we "kill 'em all and let God sort it out" on the one end of the spectrum and abject submission on the other).

Insulting somebody's god provides no benefit to us and not one of the actual terrorists is going to be intimidated by it; it makes us much easier targets for those leaders who are willing to use stuff like that against us.

Kill terrorists? Fine by me. Do something like this, which is contra-beneficial to winning any battle against terrorism whatsoever? NOT fine by me.

If you're all that hepped up on how tough you are, go ahead and get yourself a ticket to any of the countries where the terrorists are, find a bunch of them and go insult them to your heart's content. They'll shoot the bejeepers out of you, of course, but at least you'll have shown THEM who's king of the hill! And WE'LL be one idiot lighter on our side. Everybody wins.

Op, you're a hypocrite. You are so full of it; your brain can't unplug itself. You care so much about a terrorist (a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities). But, when you are faced with a intellectual argument, you immediately turn to insults. Go figure. Like I said, you are saying to just shut up and accept it, we don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. Maybe if we ask them real nice, they'll stop blowing people up. More PC insanity.

The terrorists know that if their warped philosophy can be seen as justified, and accepted they win. But, we need to be "sensitive" to their needs, and beliefs. Why don't YOU go ahead and get yourself a ticket to a country like Afghanistan and hold hands with the terrorists...see how your ideas work in real life. You might want to pack a steel neck brace to keep your head attached.

Posted by: Free To Watch Liberals Bankrupt Europe | June 2, 2010 1:51 PM

As I've said multiple times before, I don't give a rat's BUTT about a terrorist or what he's feeling.

STOP telling me what it is I mean, stop putting words in my mouth.

Although not technically an absolute truth, for the purposes of this particular argument I'll give you that "all terrorists ("A") are Muslims ("B")." While it would be correct, therefore, to state that "all A = B," the converse "all B = A" is NOT true because not all Muslims are terrorists.

"GOD," however, is NOT TELLING ANYBODY TO BE A TERRORIST.

By insulting Allah as a "monkey god" you insult terrorists, which I could care less about (I've lost count of how many times I've said that). You're ALSO insulting ALL Muslims (needlessly) in the bargain, causing ones that might never become terrorists to decide to enlist and fight the infidel to the death. You're causing Muslims who might otherwise condemn the violence to think twice about doing so.

And, because the god of terrorists and other Muslims is shared with Jews and christians, you're (stupidly and pointlessly) insulting them as well. Again, to no positive end for us.

As long as you're trying to intimidate terrorists by telling them their god is a monkey (is that actually working for you, btw?), why don't you throw in that their mothers are poo-poo-heads? It does JUST as much good, and it makes you look just as convincing.

If we're going to fight against terrorists (and we should), then for CHRISSAKE do it with a brain! Condemn them, condemn what they do, condemn what they're advocating, condemn how they pervert religion, and condemn how they do it. Saying their god's a monkey is not condemning them, it's just showing how stupid YOU are. NOT saying their god's a monkey is ALSO not -- NOT, NOT -- "appeasing" them. It's just refraining from saying something stupid that is only going to cause more problems for US. "Appeasing" terrorists is telling them "it's fine for you to do what you do, but please try to do it somewhere else, okay?" I HAVE NEVER ADVOCATED APPEASING TERRORISTS. NOBODY I'VE EVER SEEN POSTING HERE HAS EVER ADVOCATED APPEASING TERRORISTS. Yet what do I see from you? "Like I said, you are saying to just shut up and accept it, we don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. Maybe if we ask them real nice, they'll stop blowing people up."

"Like I said, you are saying" Also from your quote.

It's NOT correct that "If you can't insult murders, torturers, people that blow up innocent, men, women, and children, then you are saying to just shut up and accept it" -- couldn't be further from the truth. It's not what I said, nor does it follow logically. Not insulting them is simply not insulting them. If I didn't tell the Boston Strangler that he was ugly and he smelled bad, have I "appeased" him? Have I "just sat back and accepted" his murders as perfectly fine by me? NO. I've just NOT SAID something that's beside the point AND that's not helping the problem at hand. That simple.

If I'm confronted with an intellectual argument I treat it as such. MY statement was that if you could show me a benefit from insulting somebody, I'd accept YOUR argument. It's there in black and white. YOUR response was to
re-phrase what I wrote and tell me that if I don't tell people terrorists worship monkeys, I'm appeasing the terrorists -- and THAT'S where this stopped being an "intellectual argument."

Perhaps you should try RE-plugging your brain so it'll start working.

OK my friend you have preached for many paragraphs about not sayin' congratulations. I'm sayin'. You're a chicken.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/07/insulting_muhammad_free_speech.html

Conclusion

Christianity, if properly understood, allows for freedom of speech. The founders of the US drew from this principle, as well as from sound reasoning, coming from the Enlightenment. Therefore, everyone must be free to speak his or her own mind without reprisal, assassination, or imprisonment, merely for debating religious ideas, even if the words are offensive.

In many Islamic countries, in contrast, a citizen is not permitted to criticize Muhammad, the Quran, or Islam. This act may get him thrown in jail or killed. This modern policy comes directly from the early source documents in Islam, all the way to classical fiqh. Can Islamic law be reformed today when it draws from these source documents? How can Islam itself be reformed, when this means abandoning many, many passages in the Quran and the hadith?

Jesus Christ came with good news and freedom and God's love, even when he was insulted. Muhammad came with repression and death for dissidents and critics. Christianity advances society forward. Islam drags society backwards.

Jesus liberates. Muhammad killed.

For more modern examples of Muslims assassinating and killing mockers and political opponents in the West and elsewhere around the world, please go to this article and then click on the links throughout the article and in the Supplementary Material at the end.

Me again, you, by your chicken shit attitude want us all to hide in the corner and agree with Islamic law...I bet you don't even know that you are playing into the game of Islamic rule. You're so smart.

Oh, for CHRISSAKE.

Christianity (like any other religion adhered to strictly and without question) has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with free speech. Historically -- and I'm talking CENTURIES here -- it's actually been used to REPRESS free speech in favor of enforcing Church dogma so that it was able to operate with the ultimate authority to dictate both spiritual and temporal matters throughout its dominion. It involved power, it involved vast amounts of wealth and political gain. And, if the Dominionists have their way in this country, we'll go BACK to a world where we're going to have our religion pre-digested and spoon fed to us -- and GOD HELP anyone who disagrees with what's in that spoon. THEIR version of the "freedom" that Jesus brings is the "freedom" of GIVING UP our rights in favor of adhering to God's word -- AS THEY GIVE IT TO US ALL. Saying free speech is part of Christianity is sheer idiocy or iron-willed denial.

"Enlightenment," wherein its adherents relied on Reason rather than Faith to explain the world around them and to justify legitimate authority, stood in OPPOSITION TO, not cooperation with "Christianity." The Church ("Christianity") made every effort to suppress the movement, and burned many of its leaders. DO your homework.

Yes. We enjoy many freedoms in this country, freedom of speech being just one of them. Thank the Founding Fathers for that! Although you seem to forget/deny it, Muslims in this country ALSO enjoy free speech, along with freedom of religion and the right to seek their own best interests along with the rest of us.

It MAY have occurred to you, had you actually thought about it, that those "Islamic countries" are sovereign nations with the power to enable their own laws. That's why many of them don't feel any particular impetus to allow free speech or free press, or any of the other freedoms we take for granted here. We may disagree with them, but it's their country and they can do what they want there. It's patently easier to NOT grant citizenry rights than it is to allow them, so we've obviously chosen the "high road" on that trade-off. I DON'T AGREE WITH SHARIA, BUT I ALSO DON'T LIVE IN COUNTRIES WHERE IT'S THE LAW.

As you say, by putting words in my mouth that I NEVER ONCE SAID, YOU think I want us all to hide in a corner somewhere. That's NOT TRUE, except in the alternate reality YOU have created. I never said anything LIKE that, nor WOULD I ever say anything like that. We don't HAVE to "agree with Islamic law" here, and I'm GLAD we don't have to agree with it -- so it's just plain stupid to think I'd want to have us all crawl away in some corner somewhere. It must just plain KILL you that I don't actually say the things you try to have me say, so that you're forced to lie and put your own insanity down as what I'm actually saying, because if you DID base your arguments on what I've really said, you wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

I've made my demand that you stop putting words in my mouth, and I'm not about to back down from that. You're a dishonest, lying little piece of garbage if you think you can take YOUR INTERPRETATION of what I say and try to pass it off as what I've ACTUALLY SAID, especially what what I HAVE actually said has nothing whatever to do with what you've interpreted.

And -- just for the record -- YOU STILL HAVEN'T COME UP WITH A SINGLE ARGUMENT WHY SAYING GOD IS A MONKEY DOES ANY OF US ONE BIT OF GOOD.