Obama on health reform: "We're not going back"

Starting in 2014 most American will be buying their Health Insurance in the Highly Government Regulated Marketplaces and Exchanges. This will happen because small and medium size businesses will figure out that it is cheaper for them to pay a Government Fine and tell their employees to get their own Health Insurance. Individuals will be stuck with higher rates and less coverage. Plus everyone will be paying higher taxes to pay for the Government Health Programs.

I believe him when he says we are not going back. Entitlements like this hardly ever go away. They grow. They get on unsustainable courses like Medicare and Social Security. But why worry about things like that now? I'm sure someone else will deal with it later.

I hope the Republicans continue with their foolish "repeal Health care reform" meme this fall. They seem to be doing everything they can to take an election year (following a Pres election) that should be favorable to them and blowing it.

Poll: Support for Health Care Continues to Increase

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20005959-503544.html

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/100701-over-break-house-dems-asked-to-sound-warnings-of-gop-takeback

Affordable Care Act Becoming More Popular
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http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/06/affordable_care_act_getting_mo.html
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I'm not surprised in the least that Conservatives are still gnashing their teeth over Health Care Reform. They're still ticked off about the Civil Rights Act passing and women being allowed to vote.

By the time the Troglodytes on the right get around to appreciating Health Care Reform most of us will be dead and the right will be busy claiming that "they" were the ones who begin the push for Health Care Reform in America (see Beck, Glenn).

Insurance that meets minimum standards? Like the minimum state run car insurance where you would be better off not buying the insurance and just saving the money. You end up paying so much out of pocket that the insurance is worthless. The insurance is NOT for you, but to "Insure" that you will pay your bill.

How is Obama going to police his threats? Have the insurance companies broken any laws that don't go into effect until 2014? When will the 1100 "fill in the blanks" be "filled in" so that we can finally know what is "in" the healthcare bill? We still don't know what is in the healthcare bill because government agencies have to fill in 1100 instances in the bill with what they are going to do...is this crazy or what.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/37845422

Obama-
"We are not going back..."
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"I refuse to go back. And so do countless Americans."
How narcissistic can you get?
So which is it Chairman Obama? We or I? If you mean "we" as in "the people"- then most of us want to go back and, in fact, never wanted your $2 trillion dollar nonsense plan to begin with.
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If you mean "I"... frankly, who gives a rats*** what you want to do?
--The only power you have is the power that has been given to you by sleepy people that pay more attention to American Idol than the fact that you had zero qualifications for the job you have been given… your only hope for retaining any power is if people continue to pay no attention and allow themselves to be led around by the nose by “leaders” like yourself.
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You are a classic example of somebody that has been educated far beyond his intelligence...

"I refuse to go back. And so do countless Americans."
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Are those the countless Americans that currently dissaprove of you and the healthcare bill? Just checking. Now you can go back to not resting until the oil leak is plugged (on the golf course). Jane stop this crazy thing!

HUH??? This just keeps getting better and better. Worst President Ever!!!

Republican Congressman who oppose health insurance reform should immediately relinquish their federal health insurance. After all, these members of Congress have long enjoyed taxpayer-funded health insurance, a privilege that they apparently believe tens of millions of working, uninsured Americans and their families don't deserve.

If Republicans don't think being uninsured is a big deal, then they should go right ahead and try it out. And if they really believed that a public option was such a bad plan, maybe they can persuade their parents to give up Medicare too.

I'll be for the plan if Barry and congress all have the same "free health care" plan they are so proud of ramming through.

Okay, all of you Corporate shills, give it up. Healthcare reform is here to stay. There is no fear in this reform, of rationed healthcare, we have it already. The Corporations have been rationing healthcare since they began the Shell game. It is easy for you selfish reactionaries who have good jobs, and good connections, but you better pray that President Obama and his economic policies work or your out there in the cold with the rest of us. You stupid clowns, you're so busy conjuring up bogeymen, to scare the unknowing, that you have lost sight of everything, including your own integrity. What the heck, you can go down to the store and buy some more. Your cheap and so is your version of integrity. I hope America will see through your scare-tactics and send all of you, Republican-Libertarian-T.Bagger reactionaries, packing. That is all you really deserve. You are a bunch of scoundrels. 14,000 unnecessary deaths a year, attributed to lack of healthcare coverage or the under-covered, before President Obama's healthcare reform was enacted and you, Republican-Libertarian-T.Baggers want to allow that death toll to continue and to rise. No skin off your noses. You don't know them, anyway !! You, Ridiculous Right, would have done well in Third Reich !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

Republican Congressman who oppose health insurance reform should immediately relinquish their federal health insurance. After all, these members of Congress have long enjoyed taxpayer-funded health insurance, a privilege that they apparently believe tens of millions of working, uninsured Americans and their families don't deserve.
If Republicans don't think being uninsured is a big deal, then they should go right ahead and try it out. And if they really believed that a public option was such a bad plan, maybe they can persuade their parents to give up Medicare too.
Posted by: Fat, Drunk and Republican is no way to go through life | June 22, 2010 3:40 PM

Pay attention- you are confusing and equating access to health care with the availability of affordable health care insurance... nobody is saying that people should not have access to health care- ( which Obama care does nothing to improve) or that health care insurance should not be affordable ( which Obama care just made more expensive for most people). You (just like the Dem leaders that shoved this down our throats) are attempting to turn the issues into a moral argument because there is no legal or constitutional support for the HC law.
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Medicare for my parents has been something they have paid into all of their lives – this and Soc Sec benefits were promised to them..Why should they give this up because the government has completely mismanaged the contributions made in good faith? Would you think it is fair if your car insurance company told you they were broke after you wreck your car?
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As for requiring Reps that have opposed HC to relinquish their insurance- I am all for it-so were they. You may remember that the Dems did not allow amendments to be included in the bill that did this very thing..the amendments would have required congress people to do just this by requiring them to get their insurance form the newly formed exchanges. The amendment was not allowed to be included by your hypocritical Dem leaders.
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The issue is whether or not it is the role of the federal government to be the provider of either...So instead of attacking people that have a justified issue with this - why don’t you try to find a way to make a rational argument supporting Obama care that does not conflict with the constitution?

Don't give me that stupidity about the expansion of government's role, either. That con is almost as good as British Petroleum's: " Oh, it's only 1500 barrels a day. Nothing to worry about !! We can handle it."
Next, we have Governor Jindal, begging for big government's help. Prior to British Petroleum's criminal negligence, Jindal could be heard preaching, the Republican-Libertarian-T.Bagger hypocrisy: No government handouts unless they are to the dirty Rich or the Corporations. Come on, hypocrites of the Ridiculous Right, at least try to be consistent. Don't forget to polish that flag lapel pin, your patriotism is slipping !!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

b-bob
NurseKelly

Really you are actually trying to use a poll from the drive-by propaganda media. The same media that 48% of the population believes is trying to help Obama get his agenda through. The polls I have seen show 58% favor repeal of healthcare once they are told the true cost that the liberals held from them. Remember Obama and the liberals in Congress used new math and said it would not cost more than $900 billion in the first 10 years now we will be lucky if it cost under 3 trillion in that same period. But today Obama announced he is starting up some of the programs four years ahead of time which guarantees it will cost more than $3 trillion over 10 years.

Logan Williams

I do not know where you when to school but it was not the Democrats that passed the Civil Rights Act. It was Republicans. I know you brain dead liberal drones never let the truth get in the way of a good lie.

We all know now that ObamaCare will be another budget from this Regime. The Medicare Actuary has stated that as fact. We also have seen the DocFix that was yanked from Medicare as part of the "savings" only now being passed as everyone knew it would.

As it is now being discovered but the MSM, but thinking people knew this would happen, employers are going to drop their health insurance and pain the fine. This bill will add another Trillion to the deficit every ten years.

Logan,

Some facts - the GOP led the way in the Civil Rights fight - it was Senators like Al Gore Sr that voted against it.

The potemkin village of phony opposition thrown up by the Republicans has vaporized in a conflagration of lies, deceit and transparent right wing agitprop. Keep up the good work, Mc'CON'Nell and the rest of you congressional Republic floaters.

You silly, silly Republican-Libertarian-T.Bagers, it was President Kennedy, who introduced the Civil Rights Bill, to Congress, in 1963. Upon President Kennedy's assassination, President Johnson shepherded the bill through Congress, with the important help of Majority Leader, Senator Mike Mansfield, of Monrtana. The Dixiecrats did present a problem to its passing, but President Johnson was a shrewd legislator. Make no mistake about it, it was the Democrats' votes that passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Here is the vote tally:
House of Representatives
Democrats for: 152
Democrats against: 96
Republicans for: 138
Republicans against: 34
U.S. Senate
Democrats for: 46
Democrats against: 21
Republicans for: 27
Republicans against: 6
Now, you silly Republican-Libertarian-T.Baggers still want to insist, in your fantasy; the Republicans past the Civil Rights Act of 1964? If you still insist on that fantasy, your are much sillier than I thought !! Believe me, that wouldn't really be a surprise, at all !! Don't let the facts get in the way of your silly, stupid lies !!!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

@depot jim
That's what I suspect, too -- maybe it won't play out exactly as you put it, but there will need to be yet more bureaucracy if we want to prevent employers from "dropping out" of the health insurance picture altogether

"Starting in 2014 most American will be buying their Health Insurance in the Highly Government Regulated Marketplaces and Exchanges. This will happen because small and medium size businesses will figure out that it is cheaper for them to pay a Government Fine and tell their employees to get their own Health Insurance."

@Don

Speaking from the left -- I still have to point out that, by percentage, more Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Your own numbers prove it out.

Also the Republicans didn't past the bill. They passed it.

62% of house Democrats for
38% of house Democrats against

80% of house Republicans for
20% of house Republicans against