President Obama at an event benefiting Senate candidate Robin Carnahan in Missouri earlier this month.
by Mike Memoli
A new poll in Missouri crystallizes something we've written about before -- how President Obama's sagging poll ratings will affect Democratic candidates this November.
Mason Dixon finds that in Missouri, Obama's job approval rating is just 34 percent, and 27 percent among independent voters. In a battleground state, even one that Obama lost in 2008, that's a remarkable figure and troublesome for someone like Robin Carnahan, running in the open-seat Senate race. The same poll finds her trailing Rep. Roy Blunt by six points.
Christi Parsons and Peter Nicholas had noted that while Obama would be active raising money and campaigning for Democrats, White House and party strategists would likely keep him out of areas where his numbers render him more of a liability than an asset. Obama did just appear with Carnahan, but with numbers like this, he likely won't be back.
Another case of this is in Pennsylvania, where we noted Obama's numbers have continued to slide. Rep. Joe Sestak (D) today was asked if he wanted the president to join him on the trail; he said he would welcome the president -- but prefers his wife, Colby Itkowitz of the Morning Call reports today.
Photo Credit: White House / Pete Souza
"(The president) has offered to come and I went down to the White House and said absolutely, but I said, what I really want, my number one choice ... I said Michelle Obama," Sestak told reporters in Harrisburg.
In Florida's Senate race, Kendrick Meek may still want Obama's help -- and not just in the Democratic primary, where he faces a tougher-than-expected challenge from Jeff Greene. Because the race features a strong independent challenge in Gov. Charlie Crist, Meek would need White House-level backing to unite the Democratic base behind him, in a state where registered Democrats do still outnumber registered Republicans.
Obama's help is not imminent, but he will get an assist from White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, our partners at the Orlando Sentinel report.





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Co Republican Ken Buck: "The Tea Party are Dumbas*es"
"Will you tell those dumbasses at the Tea Party to stop asking questions about birth certificates while I'm on the camera," Buck said to the worker while laughing. "God, what am I supposed to do?"
- Co REPUBLICAN SENATE CANDIDATE KEN BUCK
http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=145249&catid=339Heh
Every Republican candidate this cycle is a Rand Paul, Sharon Angle, Marco Rubio type, one idiotic sentence away from their own special little "Gotcha" moment.
You betcha.
The GOP plan
-Sit on backside
-Protect Big Business
-Tax cuts for rich plutocrats
-Create bigger deficits
-Use deficits as excuse to decimiate and privitize the social safety net
-Obama's waterloo
Posted by: Rob | July 26, 2010 6:23 PM
The Independants didn't vote for Obama and the Democrats in '08, but rather they voted against the Republicans. It's an important distinction. It was incumbent upon the new party in power to win the confidence of the electors. Needless to say, the non-productive spending spree did nothing to create jobs or instill the promised hope. Now the Democrats are having trouble stirring their own base.
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Talk about an opportunity wasted!
Posted by: Just sayin' | July 26, 2010 6:32 PM
Barry is an incompetent boob and as bad as Bush was (and he was bad) Barry is making him look like a genius (not an easy task) Barry is without a doubt the worst president ever!!! SUPPORT OUR BARRY EVERYTHING IS SOMEONE ELSES FAULT
Posted by: Libtard | July 26, 2010 6:58 PM
They had to lower the prices at the Carnahan fundraiser because they couldn't fill the seats. It also has not boosted her pole numbers.
Posted by: vla | July 26, 2010 7:07 PM
"Obama Speaks" Just don't go to Arizona! Just don't drive while being SB1070 brown skin, brown eyes Professors trying to go through your backdoor of your "America." Just don't cry, because I'm telling you why! Health Care Reform passed! Financial Reform passed! 1099K TAXGAP passed! No need to fear! Obama is here! 365 days a week! We won't sleep! We won't whine! It's okay, It's alright, the GOP is eating Chicken and Change tonight! Just don't go to Arizona! Just don't walk that way! Talk that way! No need to fear the American uncaged, unprovisional ballot voter will be there! So what if Sarah is the EVE in the GOP TEA PARTY AMERICA "EEVS." No need to fear! Obama is here! 365 days a week! Just get out the vote! Just not the GOP Border BEAT FEDERAL DOLLARS vote! The campaign is over GOP! The election is over GOP! What you say doesn't go! We got time, on our side! Oh yes we do! 30 Billion Dollars Small Business Ownership dollars later! We got time, on our side! Oh yes we do! 2012!
Posted by: Roger Morris | July 26, 2010 10:46 PM
Obama is not going to go to PA? Really? Where "they cling to their guns and their religion." Darn.
I think Obama should go and continue to berate those people for having embraced their rights under the Constitution. Who knows, he may make them into fellow Marxists yet. It might be fun to watch.
Here's the Marxist President's platform:
Vote for Obama, hope and change, yes we can destroy America...ahh guess we already did. But, hey you still have some freedoms left and I'm not done by a long shot. Still have Cap and Trade, the Fat tax, the value added tax, gun control, media takeover, more regulations on your pathetic lives, and you still don't know what's in the healthcare bill that kicks in after 2012. I am the King, fundamentally changing America. Where's my media backup? Oh there you are, just in time.
http://bigjournalism.com/jjmnolte/2010/07/20/journolist-call-them-racists-is-the-least-shocking-revelation/
http://www.thefoxnation.com/media/2010/06/25/objective-wapo-reporter-resigns-after-private-e-mails-leaked
http://bigjournalism.com/tag/spencer-ackerman/
Posted by: Free To Watch the Liberal's Summer Meltdown | July 27, 2010 2:52 AM
Heck, when Barry went to Missouri they had to discount the tickets and practically give them away to try and fill that tiny venue. Thanks to Ozero's visit, Robin Carnahan's poll numbers took a hit and now she is trailing badly (no wonder she was trying to avoid him like the plaque)..............................................................................................Hope&Change+18 Months = "Things could be worse"
Posted by: Dave | July 27, 2010 8:39 AM
Can you say "electoral bloodbath"?
Posted by: Sucks to be a Dem in 2010 | July 27, 2010 8:42 AM
" Bring 'em on!! "
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.
Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, IL | July 27, 2010 9:58 AM
The Democrats face an uphill battle the fall elections. The Democrats control the White House and have large majorities both Houses of Congress. It is the Democrats show now. President Obama and his staunch supporters can go around the country blaming the Republicans for all the nation's ills, but this is getting old and the majority of the people want Results and not Excuses. Whether Obama and the Democrats like it or not the Big Issue this November will be JOBS, JOBS, JOBS. In a Reuters article (July 26th) yesterday there was some very disturbing news. In the last 5 years (between 2005 and 2010) 40 STATES have lost jobs in the private sector. Nevada, who led the nation in job gains in 2005 is now dead last (50th) in lost jobs. Last year alone Nevada lost 113,000 jobs. Nevada was followed by California and Florida in job losses. On the positive side North Dakota led the country with positive 21,300 gain in jobs in that period. Alaska was second with a gain of 10,100 job gain. But the overall bad news is that in the last 5 years Nevada, California and Florida lost 1.69 Million Jobs. And the country lost 4.5 Million Jobs in the private sector. As I said before this is very disturbing news.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2622998620100726
Posted by: depot jim | July 27, 2010 10:25 AM
John V. Karavitis What a difference a couple of years makes, in addition to a failed Keynesian stimulus approach to fixing the economy. Although it isn't over until it's over, that is, we won't know what will happen until after the elections in November, it definitely does not look good for the Democrats. And the fact that Obama's approval rating is as low as it is reflects the loss of confidence that the American people have in Obama and the Democrats. What's most troubling is the large number of people who remain unemployed. What can be done to help them get jobs?? John V. Karavitis
Posted by: John V. Karavitis | July 27, 2010 11:19 AM
Um Roger take your Meds 365 days a week? that must only be in the extra 7 states BO thinks there have. remember that one? Ha Ha Worst President Ever!!!
Posted by: Libtard | July 27, 2010 11:43 AM
OK, I'm intrigued. On what planet does a week have 365 days?
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Just wonderin'
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Posted by: Just sayin' | July 27, 2010 12:44 PM
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In the last 5 years (between 2005 and 2010) 40 STATES have lost jobs in the private sector.
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And who was the President between 2005 - 2008? Right, some Republican named Bush, who presided over the loss of 2 million jobs in just 2008. Can't blame that on Obama since 2008 was Bush's economy following his policies.
Posted by: BC | July 27, 2010 1:17 PM
Just sayin', that's just Roger. I have no idea why the Swamp posts his nonsense. It makes them look stupid.
Posted by: DaveB | July 27, 2010 1:55 PM
Dear Tribune,
Please ban the moniker Libtard from the boards. Most of us literate adults are offended when idiots make fun of disabled people. Libtard or John D or Free to Watch, use another name. It is offensive. Your mother should have taught you that making fun of people for the way they were born is wrong. Basically equal to any racial ephitat. For shame.
Posted by: ugggh | July 27, 2010 2:07 PM
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In the last 5 years (between 2005 and 2010) 40 STATES have lost jobs in the private sector.
Posted by: depot jim | July 27, 2010 10:25 AM
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And who was the President between 2005 - 2008? Right, some Republican named Bush, who presided over the loss of 2 million jobs in just 2008. Can't blame that on Obama since 2008 was Bush's economy following his policies.
Posted by: BC | July 27, 2010 1:17 PM
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BC, if you bothered to read my whole post you would see that I was not blaming anyone for the loss of the jobs. But I did state that the Democrats will probably get the blame from the voters in November because they are currently in power. If it had been the other way the Republicans would catch the wrath of the voters who have already punished the GOP in 2006 and 2008. It is very unfortunate that some of you on the Far Left and some on the Far Right are too blinded by silly partisan politics to see that the loss of jobs is an American problem and not a Democrat or Republican problem. All some of you do is point the blame finger and name calling at each other, and do not come up with any concrete and good ideas on how to bring the country out of this big economic mess we are currently in. No positive action, and making excuses and blaming the other guy for all the economic ills only goes so far before it really gets old. Most of us out here want Positive Action from our Leaders and not always Excuses.
Posted by: depot jim | July 27, 2010 2:28 PM
depot jim, good post. I believe that the loss of jobs is a permanent one, and not directly caused by the current recession. It is simply too expensive to make things in the United States any more. We Americans want to make a lot of money, and we want to pay as little as possible for what we buy; both rational economic responses, by the way. There aren't enough of us who will look for the "Made in USA" label and pay more for the item in order to keep Americans employed. The corporations, who are a convenient scapegoat for sending jobs overseas, are caught in the middle; it's cut costs, often by having stuff made in Third World countries and shipped here, or go under. So, the textile industry - gone. The electronics industry - gone. The shoe industry - gone. The auto industry - going.
If we want to find someone to blame for the loss of jobs, we should look in the mirror. Everything that happens in this country is done by, for, and to the middle class, because there are so many of us and because we wield, collectively, the most economic power.
Posted by: DaveB | July 27, 2010 5:59 PM
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Posted by: ugggh | July 27, 2010 2:07 PM
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Most of us genuinely educated and literate people understand that the use of the word stem “tard” as a building block does not invariably make reference to disabled people.
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Calling a person “retarded” literally asserts that such a person is “delayed.” (From Middle English retarden, from Old French retarder, from Latin retardre : re- + tardre, to delay (from tardus, slow)). A similar meaning applies to music (which I’m sure you didn’t get either) to indicate a slow-down in tempo. When applied to the handicapped, the word “retarded” is actually a euphemism, as it implies the possibility of speeding up or catching up.
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Another related word to describe one who is “late” is “tardy,” which probably describes your attendance habits with regard to whatever English classes you took. Had you shown up on time more often, you might have learned to trace a word’s etymological root before jumping to conclusions. (But, of course, liberals are good at jumping to conclusions. Just look at what happened to Shirley Sherrod.)
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Clearly, therefore, the moniker “Libtard” is not a reference to a mentally handicapped person, or otherwise offensive. At worst, it implies that pseudo-liberal progressives are slow to understanding. But this could well result from ignorance, foolishness, laziness of thought, blind faith in some beloved leader, or any number of reasons other than being mentally handicapped. From what I have seen on this board, this is all too true.
Posted by: John W. | July 27, 2010 6:03 PM
Posted by: depot jim | July 27, 2010 2:28 PM
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Yep. The fact is that no president causes recessions. The economy is cyclical with booms and busts happening regularly.
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And you're right, the political reality remains that whomever is in the White House at the time owns the recession in the popular mind. So whether its fair or not, this is Obama's recession.
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That said, it is certainly fair to criticize this administration's and its party's supposed response to the crisis. The pork-stuffed 'Stimulus' bill created a little bit of temp work (not actual jobs) at an outrageously high price. Net result: No relief.
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Posted by: Just sayin' | July 27, 2010 8:15 PM
Before CommonSense,
I'll assume from your silence on a previous post that you are apolgizing for calling me a racist. Thanks in advance.
Speaking of unemployment - when Pelosi and Reid assumed command of Congress in January, 2007 - the unemployment rate was 5.0% and the DJIA was over 12,000. So what have the dems done for us.
As a poster named "Bri" said a few days ago - during the GOP 12 year control of Congress from 1995-2006 (except for the 1 1/2 yrs where they didn't control the Senate in 2001-02), over 21 million jobs were created. during the 3 1/2 years the dems have controlled Congress - about 8 million jobs lost. Thanks for playing.
Posted by: Terry | July 27, 2010 8:34 PM
"Can you say "electoral bloodbath"?
Posted by: Sucks to be a Dem in 2010 | July 27, 2010 8:42 AM "
that is why the Progressives/Social Democrats and other leftists want to get rid of the Electoral College! Massachusetts just passed a bill that would ignore the electoral college and award the winner of the US popular vote, its delegates. This is one of the goals of the Progressive/Social Democrats agenda. They want to be able to Acorn the large cities to elect their candidates nationwide.
Posted by: Steve Lobber | July 27, 2010 9:05 PM
ted by: ugggh | July 27, 2010 2:07 PM
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Most of us genuinely educated and literate people understand that the use of the word stem “tard” as a building block does not invariably make reference to disabled people.
uggh, your pompous ass is showing.
Here's a quote from your brethren:
While appearing on "The Tonight Show" to tout his economic plan, Obama -- who famously rolled a gutter ball while trying to woo primary voters last year -- told Leno that he had been practicing in the White House bowling alley and recently scored an unimpressive 129.
"It's like -- it was like Special Olympics or something," the president said, prompting laughter from the audience.
Shall I go on?
Posted by: Free To Watch the Liberal's Summer Meltdown | July 28, 2010 3:19 AM
Clearly, therefore, the moniker “Libtard” is not a reference to a mentally handicapped person, or otherwise offensive. At worst, it implies that pseudo-liberal progressives are slow to understanding. But this could well result from ignorance, foolishness, laziness of thought, blind faith in some beloved leader, or any number of reasons other than being mentally handicapped. From what I have seen on this board, this is all too true.
Posted by: John W. | July 27, 2010 6:03 PM
John W, You are killing me here.
If the moniker fits wear it. As in the case where a certain president can't bowl and compares his "skills" to the Special Olympics; therefore, making him a libtard for insulting the physically and mentally handicapped who try to do something with their lives and struggle every day, as opposed to an Affirmative Action surfer from Hawaii that thinks he is going to re-distribute hundreds of years of history. That is a libtard.
Posted by: Free To Watch the Liberal's Summer Meltdown | July 28, 2010 4:58 AM
To David B:
You are right that many of the jobs lost over the past five years will be permanent. But this trend of jobs moving overseas has been going on has been going on for decades. It did not just happen one day in the Bush or Obama Administrations as some of the more staunch political posts claim in this paper. This trend of losing jobs to overseas sites has been going on for at least the last 50 years. It took the worst business downturn since the Great Depression for some Americans and Political Leaders to finally notice it. As you mention in your post it is very hard to find the "Made in America label anymore. For those doubters I suggest you go into a Sears, Penneys, Macy's or a Target for example and you will see what I mean. Just about everything, with some exceptions, is made overseas. Also just drive down the street and see all the foreign made autos that were not around just 30 years ago. The transfer of jobs and industry has already occurred while many Americans and their Leaders were asleep at the wheel.
Posted by: depot jim | July 28, 2010 9:39 AM
Shall I go on?
Posted by: Free To Watch the Liberal's Summer Meltdown | July 28, 2010 3:19 AM
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Sure. Here's another example -- "Rob" loves to rant against homosexuals.
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Posted by: Just sayin' | July 28, 2010 11:17 AM
I'll assume from your silence on a previous post that you are apolgizing for calling me a racist. Thanks in advance.
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Posted by: Terry | July 27, 2010 8:34 PM
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I'm doing no such thing! As I posted a few days ago, I challenged you to post the Swamp column in which you ALLEGE that I called you a racist.
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Everyone in the Swamp is still waiting for you to provide that link to back up your claim.
Posted by: BC | July 28, 2010 12:49 PM
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Posted by: Free To Watch the Liberal's Summer Meltdown | July 28, 2010 3:19 AM
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If you insist that I have a “pompous ass,” you might at least say so in a post that has some coherency. You failed in both of your posts.
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In the first place, Obama is not one of my “brethren.” (I assume that’s who you were talking about because his is the only quote to which you refer.) I am no pseudo-liberal progressive, and I take offense at Nazis like “ugggh” who wish to censor writing that is neither offensive nor discriminatory.
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In the second place, I was responding to “ugggh” (a liberal), who believes the moniker “libtard” is somehow offensive (especially to so-called liberals) because it is an explicit reference to disabled people. I pointed out that it was not offensive in the manner described because it did not explicitly refer to the disabled - unlike Obama’s reference to “Special Olympics” that you point out, and because the etymology of the words “tard, tardy, and retard” does not restrict its use only to the disabled.
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In the third place, had you bothered to read ugggh’s post, he/she/it stated in his/her/its post that “Most of us literate adults are offended when idiots make fun of disabled people.” Thus, my opening line was a bit of tongue-in-cheek one-upmanship to the pomposity expressed therein.
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I suggest you figure out what I’m saying before you respond to it. Your decoding mechanism failed you this time. After that, I suggest you figure out whose side of the line of scrimmage you are standing.
Posted by: John W. | July 28, 2010 3:25 PM
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Posted by: Steve Lobber | July 27, 2010 9:05 PM
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I don’t quite understand your objection to the new Mass. law. If the new law gives all Electoral College (EC) votes to the candidate who wins the Mass. popular vote, then it does no more that what most states do. Most states award EC votes on a winner take all basis. There are only two states (I think) that apportion EC votes based on the percentage a candidate wins.
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If, on the other hand, the law apportions all EC votes based on the entire, nationwide popular vote, then it is a law that could easily blow up in the face of progressive pseudo-liberals. If, for instance, a Republican or Independent won the nationwide popular vote, then Mass. would be obliged to award all of its EC votes to that candidate even if Mass. voted overwhelmingly for a Democrat candidate. Of course, the opposite is also true if a Dem should win the nationwide vote, although it is unlikely that such a result would disagree with the Mass. popular vote.
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However unfair or dangerous such a law may seem, there is no good, legal argument against it. You see, the Constitution gives State legislatures complete discretion in determining how electors are appointed. A popular vote to determine electors is the norm, but it is not required by the Constitution. A State legislature could, in theory, choose all the electors without a popular vote in the state. That’s because Presidents are elected by states, and not the people. Thus, choosing electors on the basis of the national, popular vote offends no constitutional, election principle.
Posted by: John W. | July 28, 2010 4:54 PM
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Posted by: BC | July 28, 2010 12:49 PM
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You clearly implied that Terry and John D. were the moral equivalent of racists when you suggested that they be banned from the board out of “fairness” in the event that racists like ‘Rob’ (aka John E., janet, Hulk Smash!, Huh?, former Republican, etc.) were to be banned. Terry is simply and logically asking for proof of that moral equivalence, and in particular for proof that he is a racist or its equivalent.
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You see, BC, Terry (like me) could not fathom the possibility that you would have made your “fairness” comment without having some reason to equate Terry’s and John D.’s writings to those of a racist. The alternative would be to think that you are so foolish and stupid that you think someone should be banned simply because they have political views different from your own.
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So, is Terry the moral equivalent of a racist? If so, please explain. Or are you just stupid and/or foolish enough to believe that censorship is good for those who disagree with you? Which is it? Enquiring minds want to know.
Posted by: John W. | July 28, 2010 5:02 PM
Before CommonSense,
Here are the facts:
In the July 16th Swamp article "Bachmann creates Tea party caucus", Liberals bankrupt Europe posted at July 19 at 11:01 p.m. - "... He is just calling names, posting hate, racism, and bigotry...."
then you responded on July 20 at 2:33 p.m. " We here in The Swamp put up with this from the likes of John D and Terry nearly every day - are you going to demand that the Trib ban them also (in the name of fairness)?"
Later that evening I called you out on your blatant attack.
and I continued to call you out on this untrue attack.
In the "Rangle puts Democrats in a bind" Swamp article, you posted at 10:59 a.m. on July 24 "Tinkled On Terry - post the link for the Swamp column where you think I said that you made racist statements; otherwise, do try to be intelligent for once in your life and stay on topic."
The following day I repeated the same quotes you had made on July and provided the link back to the aforementioned Bachmann article; which I will provide again:
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2010/07/bachmann_creates_tea_party_cau.html
So, it is time for you to choose, apologize or defend your statement.
Posted by: Terry | July 28, 2010 6:54 PM
Hey BrainCramped, so I should be banned? Because over and over and over I have provided links showing that Cuba in fact does border the Gulf of Mexico, which you have never acknowledged?
Please, though, show me where I have been a racist. Hmmm, in 2002, I voted for Jesse White (a BLACK DEMOCRAT) to be Secretary of State. Does that make me a racist? Or how about this past July 4 when I ran into Jesse White at a parade, talked to him and shook his hand, telling him that even though I will be working to defeat him come November that I still had great respect for the community work he has done? Does that make me a racist?
Or how about three years ago when in downtown Chicago a young black couple came up to me asking money for food for them and their kids and rather than giving them the money I took them all to the McDonalds across the street and bought them their dinner? Does that make me a racist? I know, I know, I contributed to their obesity (they and the kids were not fat) by buying them McDonalds, and the kids meals were Happy Meals.
BrainCramped, please do the sane world a favor and just go away!!!
Posted by: John D | July 28, 2010 11:01 PM
Bravo free to watch, you totally naid it.
If the moniker fits wear it. As in the case where a certain president can't bowl and compares his "skills" to the Special Olympics; therefore, making him a libtard for insulting the physically and mentally handicapped who try to do something with their lives and struggle every day, as opposed to an Affirmative Action surfer from Hawaii that thinks he is going to re-distribute hundreds of years of history. That is a libtard.
Posted by: Free To Watch the Liberal's Summer Meltdown | July 28, 2010 4:58 AM
Posted by: Libtard | July 29, 2010 2:02 PM
John D,
I guess Before Commonsense, or as you call him Brain Cramped, has decided to chicken out.
I think this should be BC's theme song and new moniker, at least until he grows a pair.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKss2pBYQ6Y
Posted by: Terry | July 29, 2010 6:47 PM
" Bring 'em on !!" and " Mission Accomplished ! " !!!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.
Posted by: Don Fitzgerald, IL | July 29, 2010 11:33 PM
Don what are you babbling about now?
Posted by: Libtard | July 30, 2010 10:56 AM
Posted by: John D | July 28, 2010 11:01 PM
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Dear Geographically Stupid Little Johnnie D, the "Joseph Stalin of Streamwood", it is YOU who have consistently claimed that Cuba is in the Gulf of Mexico,, which I HAVE POSTED PROOF is really in the Caribbean Sea. It is YOU WHO ARE WRONG and are too cowardly to admit it!
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Why don't YOU take your HATE and STUPID RANTINGS and return to the Elgin Mental Hospital from which you escaped?
Posted by: BC | July 30, 2010 12:48 PM
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Posted by: BC | July 30, 2010 12:48 PM
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Dear BC,
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Allow me to ask: Is San Francisco on the Pacific Ocean or the San Francisco Bay? If you answered one or the other, you would be wrong. That's because both bodies of water touch upon it.
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Likewise, Cuba happens to be in BOTH the Gulf of Mexico and the Carribean Sea. Both of you are correct in your assertions with regard to the seas that surround it, but YOU are WRONG in suggesting that Cuba happens to be only in the Carribean and not also in the Gulf of Mexico. Cuba defines the Gulf's southeast perimeter. I have seen a number of maps that indicate the Gulf touches on Cuba's northwest shore. So, it is very much in the Gulf; it just happens that it isn't entirely in the Gulf.
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So please give this stuff a rest.
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Next time: The division between Europe and Asia.
Posted by: John W. | July 31, 2010 5:27 PM
I voted for him. He started out well but no longevity. I hate to say this but if the right republican comes 2010 I am voting that ticket...By the way I found a website that give you prizes for your opinions and 4 play games here is a topic this:
http://opinion.ezwingame.com/topics/should-democrats-fear-obamas-effect-on-midterm-vote
Posted by: elizabeth Jones | August 5, 2010 12:41 PM