Obama rating suffers among independents: The Swamp
The Swamp
Chicago Tribune
Posted July 7, 2010 6:45 AM
The Swamp

by Mike Memoli

A new Gallup survey puts President Obama's approval rating among independent voters below 40 percent for the first time, an ominous indicator of his support among swing voters who have begun to lean Republican this year.

One year ago, Obama posted a 56 percent approval rating among independent voters. That's down to 38 percent today. Among Republicans, support dropped from 20 percent to 12 percent. He is still strong among Democrats, though support fell from 90 percent to 81 percent.

Obama's overall job approval rating is at 46 percent, just shy of his lowest weekly average, Gallup reports.

The numbers are worrisome to Democrats, who are working to frame the election as a choice between parties and not a referendum on the president. Though turnout in midterm election years tends to be lower among independent voters, they still can represent the margin of victory in swing districts. An earlier Gallup survey found that independent voters preferred a generic Republican over a generic Democratic candidate by a 12-point margin.

Compared to past presidents at a similar point in their terms, Obama's approval rating ranks in the bottom half, but ahead of Bill Clinton (43 percent in July '94), Ronald Reagan (42 percent in July '82) and Jimmy Carter (40 percent in July '78).

The Gallup tracking poll is based on live phone interviews conducted from June 28 to July 4. The overall sample of 3,055 adults had a margin of error of +/- 2 percent. The subsample of 1,045 independents has a margin of error of +/- 4 percent.

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The audacity of disenchantment.


I'm curious as to how Obimbo's Gallup rating can be so little unchanged, even though his support from Independents is down into the 30s, his support from Republicans has gone from 20 to 12 and even his support from Democrats has gone from 90 to 80. He is down nearly double digits in every category, yet is still in the mid 40s??


I wasn't surprise after I saw his economic advisor on Hardball. All I heard was "this graph...and that graph." I'm like: you are clueless on how to get the economy going. You are definintely a desk jockey! I can't believe you run that department! You got to go out there and connect with the billionares. It is so easy! Get Bill Clinton to volunteer and head an economy recovery team. Bill is immensely popular. He partners with the billionares and chart a direction on green energy for a win-win situation. No congress involve. . .since it is a volunteer position. It's all in the name of "public" service.
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But if we are going to rely on "cap & trade", & stimulus (only half bake because Congress is stonewalling) then it's going to be a long road to recovery. . .if at all!


Rasmussen says his approval rating is 44% among voters and only 25% or so strongly approve.

If you remove the 11% of the population who support him hook, line and sinker because they share the same skin color, that's only 14% who strongly support his politics and 27% who approve of his performance. (Yes, I adjusted for the 10% of blacks who don't approve of him).


Bernanke Created Half of 234 Years’ Worth of Money Supply


Most people still do not understand what was accomplished with the Bailouts. What helicopter Ben & Co. did — pouring trillions into the banking sector — served only to stave off a secular economic restructuring of the finance sector.

The can was kicked down the road, and their hope was the wild structurally imbalanced economy was allowed to persist.

By comparison, General Motors had gone down a path of bad management, poor products, lack of long term strategy. Their slide into bankruptcy was appropriate; it served to purge terrible management and awful business planning.

However, Banks were not allowed to suffer the fate that all insolvent businesses are supposed to. This was a terrible error, the greatest financial tragedy of the 21st century. That they were allowed to survive mostly intact is the result of the excess influence they have on a corruptible congress and a misguided Federal Reserve.


http://tinyurl.com/2bzhzqx


Trollboy,
I'll save you the trouble and post for you--
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Gallup is an extreme right wing teabagger wingnut polling organization so their results are distorted. And my mom told me that Mark Kirk is a homosexual!!
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Hmmmm, now, let's see. Who has emerged in the past 12 months as the leader of the GOP to take on Pres Obama in 2012?


Sarah Palin? Nah, she cut and ran from political office in favor of siphoning money her gullible followers don't have on a book they didn't read and speeches they can't remember. Michael Steele? Please...don’t make me laugh when I'm noshing on a mouthful of cereal. John "the economy is an ant" Boehner? Doubts. Mitch McConnell? Nope. John McCain? Excuse me...John McWho? Hmm... How about Glenn Beck? Maybe---but his ratings are in the tank. Bobby Jindal, Haley Barbour, Tim Pawlenty? Larry, Curly, Moe? Mike Huckabee? More like Mike Ain't-to-Be. Mitt Romney won the straw poll at CPAC...but only by one vote over Ron Paul. So for now it looks like proud racist Rush Limbaugh remains the de facto leader of the Republican party, seeing as no one has "emerged" to steal his mojo. But I'm sure there's a Saint Ronald Reagan lurking out there somewhere (Fred Thompson was supposed to be the next Great Communicator in '08...unfortunately he kept falling asleep during his own speeches).


Congrats on your 2012 reelection Pres Obama!



We must use the healthcare act to have EMERGENCY BRAIN SCANS for the 46% that still support our Marxist Ideologue President.


Isn't is great that NASA is being used to make Islamic countries feed better about themselves..."Ask not what you country can do for you, but what your country can do for Muslims." Obama has outdone the bowdown.


Rasmussen says his approval rating is 44% among voters and only 25% or so strongly approve. Liberals now comprise only 20% of the electorate in the latest polls and conservatives have gone a couple of points above 40%. Libs hate Rasmussen because it only tracks LIKELY VOTERS and not the rabble that wants a handout, but never goes to the polls---the Dems natural constituency.


Like otp said, if you take out the Racist Supporters, there is very little support the man has left. For those who argue that the other side is racist *against* Obama, here is a clue: Asians hate Obama as much as mainstream. So do Latinos (according to the demographics breakout) Old, Young and Male, Female differences are not as much as Black vs. NonBlack. Certainly there are prejudiced people in all groups, but guess which group the statistics show nakedly as the MOST BIASED? It is not Native Americans like myself, and that is the only clue you are getting. Figure it out! There is a lot of Racism out there, and most of if comes from those screaming the loudest and trying to play their overused card past the expiration date, which was 20 January, 2009, the day that no-one can ever say again that there is a limit to how far you can go with the "Racist Limitations" in the system. There is still racism, but not like the screaming haters want you to believe!


Republicans hate blue collar workers


First off I am a blue collar worker second I am a conservative. Here is something to ponder, as it looks now the Democrats will lose better than 40 seats in the House of Representatives and will be lucky if Democrats hold 49 seat come January 2011 in the Senate. In other words Democrats lose control of the House of Representatives and no longer have a super majority in the Senate. Right after the election Obama and the liberals in Congress will have to answer for why everybody that pays taxes will pay more. Why their child tax deduction has been cut in half and the marriage penalty tax has gone back up to the levels they were under Clinton. I can tell you what Obama will not say about the tax increases and it is; I only let President Bush's tax cuts for the rich expire. You liberals just eat up the propaganda your comrades in the mainstream media just keep pumping out. And I bet most of you even thank that MSNBC is all news programming 24/7.

daveinboca

You are so right about liberal drones and Rasmussen. Rasmussen when it comes to polling during elections and stating who they believe will win they are right 98% of the time. Gallup comes in at 84% and the rest after that goes down even further until you get to the liberal polling agency called Research 2000 at 0%.


Ratings dropping? Time to whip up a new bbatch of kool-aid.

Rodney King,

Cap & Tax and another Stimulus would do nothing to stimulate the economy. The bad news is that 2010 may be the better of economic years when compared to 2011 since businesses will acclerate business to the extent possible into the year with the better tax consequences.

Trickled On John E,

Did mommy tell you that story while you were sitting on her lap? Speaking of homosexual behavior, every hear of Larry Sinclair?

Hate Blue Collar workers,

Name Mitch Daniels mean anything to you? That's assuming BO survives Hillary's primary challenge.

Bankrupt Europe,

Why use a brain scan to examine an empty space?


Agreed Terry, perhaps we can use the storage space for something...


"empty pockets never held anyone back empty heads and empty hearts can do that"


Thanks Crooks, for reminding me about the expiring Bush tax cuts. Remember, Obama won't be raising taxes on anyone making less than 250K / year. He's only raising taxes on those Greedy Capitalist Pigs. See if your income qualifies you as a GCP: (married, filing jointly)

$0-$70 K - increase from 10% to 15%
$70-141K - increase from 15 - 28% (yup, more than 1/4th of your income to the feds)
141 - 215K - was 25%, now 31% (150 is a teacher married to a police officer).
215 - 384 - 33% becomes 36%
more than 384 goes from 35% to 39.6%

http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2010/02/15/2011-federal-income-tax-brackets-irs-income-tax-rates/


Posted by: otp | July 8, 2010 12:06 PM

In spite of what your link reference states (and what you're saying by showing percentage increases in the lower-income brackets), otp, I BELIEVE that the proposed changes only actually apply to those in the high-income brackets, currently 33% and 35%. The 33% bracket would become 36%; the 35% bracket would rise to 39.6%. Sources I find indicate that those brackets UNDER 33% currently will not be allowed to expire, which is how the higher brackets are changing. Therefore, the 10%, 15%, and 25% brackets you're showing as increasing in 2011 (as well as the current 28% bracket you left out) will REMAIN 10%, 15%, 25% and 28%. Perhaps I didn't look enough, but yours seems to be the only link that reports any kind of across-the-board increase on all tax brackets. Luckily, I DID find it in my search, but only after going through several sites that reported otherwise:

See the following:

http://moneywatch.bnet.com/economic-news/article/top-5-tax-changes-in-your-future/411476/

http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/01/pf/taxes/obama_budget_tax_changes/index.htm

http://www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/forecast/archive/tax_hikes_coming_in_2011_090424.html

http://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tools/tax-tips/irs-tax-return/5519.html

http://mediamatters.org/research/201004130047

http://luckydog.newsvine.com/_news/2010/06/18/4530452-laffer-continues-to-mislead-on-2011-tax-changes

(There's more, but I figured enough was enough for this kind of thing.)

Also, "fivecentnickel.com" includes a warning/disclaimer you left out, just before the income levels and tax brackets you included, that MIGHT change the message somewhat: "It’s hard to say exactly where the income cutoffs will lie, but if we base the numbers on the 2010 income tax brackets and add 3% for inflation, the 2011 tax brackets might look something like this:" One might, therefore, conclude that if the inflation figure they assume is incorrect, then the 2011 figure could change as well, for ANY of the brackets, whether or not they increase.

Note, as well, that if you happen to be in the 28% bracket, you pay that 28% on income that exceeds the income that's in the 15% bracket (from your chart, whatever is between $70K and $140K), not on the entire amount, which means that you're NOT paying "over 1/4th of your income to the Feds." The same "marginal" computation applies to any of the higher brackets as well.

(see the following:)

http://www.invest-2win.com/Brackets.html

FINALLY -- for those interested, here are the 2010 tax bracket cutoffs:

Tax Rate for Married Couples Filing Jointly:

10%: Not over $16,750
15%: $16,750 - $68,000
25%: $68,000 - $137,300
28%: $137,300 - $209,250
33%: $209,250 - $373,650
35%: Over $373,650

Tax Rate forMost Single Filers:
10%: Not over $8,375
15%: $8,375 - $34,000
25%: $34,000 - $82,400
28%: $82,400 - $171,850
33%: $171,850 - $373,650
35%: Over $373,650

http://www.moneybluebook.com/2010-federal-income-tax-brackets-irs-tax-rates/


Opie,

There are no proposed changes and some democrats are pushing for just letting them expire and thus an income tax increase on every income tax payer. These income tax increases will also include increasing the double taxation on cap gains back to 20-% and increase the double taxation dividend income back to regular tax rates.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/106619-dems-to-punt-on-taxes


Trickled On John E,

Did mommy tell you that story while you were sitting on her lap? Speaking of homosexual behavior, every hear of Larry Sinclair?

Posted by: Terry | July 7, 2010 7:55 PM

Well, first of all, thank you for trying to stomp on John E. because: a) that particular post DOES happen to be obnoxious and b) this John E. happens to be posting on YOUR side.

Second, and only because you bring it up -- do you give credence to Larry Sinclair and his story?


Op109

Tax Rate for Married Couples Filing Jointly:

10%: Not over $16,750
15%: $16,750 - $68,000
25%: $68,000 - $137,300
28%: $137,300 - $209,250
33%: $209,250 - $373,650
35%: Over $373,650

Tax Rate forMost Single Filers:
10%: Not over $8,375
15%: $8,375 - $34,000
25%: $34,000 - $82,400
28%: $82,400 - $171,850
33%: $171,850 - $373,650
35%: Over $373,650

And when the tax cuts expire in January they will look like they did in 2000. Above are the brackets for 2010 which you posted. And the only link that you have posted that is not three months old was from a blogger and what he heard by a talking head on a news program. Below will be the brackets from the year 2000 which will be the brackets for the year 2011. You can send your thank you cards to Pres. Broke Insame Obama and all the members of the liberal elected elitist in DC.

Tax Rate for Single Filers:
0 dollar to $26,250 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 15%
$26,250 to $63,550 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 28%
$63,550 to $132,600 -- ---- -- -- -- -- -- -- 31%
$133,600 to $288,350 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 36%
above $288,350 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 39.6%


Tax Rate for Married Couples Filing Jointly:


0 dollar to $43,850 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 15%
$43,850 to $105,950 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 28%
$105,950 to $161,450 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 31%
$161,450 to $288,350 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 36%
Above $288,350 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 39.6%


http://www.moneychimp.com/features/tax_brackets.htm

And the dependent deduction for children will go back to its levels from the Clinton administration (meaning cut in half) along with the marriage penalty. The death tax also goes back. Now you can keep saying that there will not be a tax hike on everyone until a bill is passed. Until that is done all the so-called tax cuts for the rich will expire.


DopieOpie, "John E" pretty much always has been on your side of the Loopy Lefty Loon world. There is a newer "John E" that is of the right mind. The John E above clearly is the old John E (Trifle H, former republican, dumb dumb janet and all the other names he has used over the years -- real and imagined).

And, now my thanks to Terry and Crooks in DC, for once again, proving you wrong! Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Of making a complete a** of yourself? Seems not.


Opie,

That John E posts on you side (the more recent John E is a civil conservative). As for Larry Sinclair - I brought that up primarily as a smackdown, probably not true - but who knows.


And, now my thanks to Terry and Crooks in DC, for once again, proving you wrong! Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Of making a complete a** of yourself? Seems not.

Posted by: John D | July 9, 2010 3:30 PM

Well, Dolt -- looks like I am wrong about the tax issue. Or, at least, I will be if the Dems allow the entire schlamoodle to expire.

HOWEVER, wrong though I may be on this, I STILL argued YOU into a corner, twice in a row. It appears that all the nastiness you can muster isn't getting you any closer to proving YOUR points there. Seems to me you're the one who's got by far the most experience making an a** of yourself, so -- YOU TELL ME how it feels.


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